DEFENDING "THEORY" * A Compilation of Messages from WMST-L Subscribers * Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 21:27:00 PST From: MEDELSTEIN@SCUACC.SCU.EDU Subject: request for theory info. Does anyone have handy, at her or his fingertips, a few references for articles defending feminists "doing theory" from the attacks against theory (esp. poststructuralist theory and what's perceived as its "elitism," "density," "androcentrism," etc.). One of my students is doing a research paper on the debate over "women's language" in theoretical work (as opposed to in lit.). On the "feminists shouldn't do theory, or if they do, they should write simply and accessibly and not build on white male father-figure theorists," (and, by the way, we're focusing primarily on literary theory), there are well-known articles by Baym, Marcus, Lorde, Christian, et al. The only two I could think of on the "pro-theory" or "feminists need not renounce doing theory" side were Laurie Finke's "Why I do Feminist Theory" and , in a rather different vein, Jane Tompkins' "Me and My Shadow." But I know I've read a number of others. My student has found a couple of articles by Gilbert (and Gubar?) critiquing male theoretical style and suggesting women not emulate it. I want to be sure he doesn't simply accept an argument without seeing both sides, esp. since the debate about the role of theory and styles of feminist theoretical discourse has been such an energetic one. If anyone can think of any useful recent feminist literary theoretical works defending "theory," I'd appreciate the references. Thanks. Marilyn Edelstein, Dept. of English, Santa Clara U ==================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 01:43:41 -0500 From: Lissa SchneiderSubject: Re: request for theory info. The woman who posted this request for information about feminists using theory did not leave a return address, so I will post to the list: Perhaps your student should look at Shari Benstock's TEXTUALIZING THE FEMININE: ON THE LIMITS OF GENRE (Norman: University of Oklahoma Press, 1991). While she does not "defend" her use of Lacanian-Derridean discourses, she does an excellant and lucid job of explicating their importance for feminism and for women. Also, Juliet Mitchell and Jacqueline Rose's classic introductions to FEMININE SEXUALITY (New York: NOrton Press, 1982) are good, especially Rose's. Also perhaps Toril Moi's SEXUAL/TEXTUAL POLITICS (London: Routledge Press, 1985). ==================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 11:35:00 GMT From: JAE2@VAXB.YORK.AC.UK Subject: Re: request for theory info. Teresa Brennan has some good comments in her intro to what I thought was Brennan and Pateman eds, title forgotten, but I now think may be Brennan ed Between Feminism and Psychoanalysis. I'd have thought - for some reason I can't remember - that somewhere in Destabilizing Theory (Anne Phillips, Michele Barrett) there'd be something too. (But also see from a different perspective Susan Bordo's review of Gender Trouble in Feminist Studies.) Judy Evans Politics Department University of York UK jae2@uk.ac.york ==================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 08:16:21 EST From: Vicki Kirsch Subject: defending theory Another source is Joan Cocks' book THE OPPOSITIONAL IMAGINATION (Routledge) in which she critiques Radical Feminism while imagining a dynamic space for the critic and the rebel to create theory for emancipatory ends. Vicki Kirsch College of Wm and Mary vlkirs@wmvm1 ==================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 07:31:05 CST From: Nancy Subject: Re: request for theory info. bell hooks discusses making theory accessible to all in her books. ==================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 09:27:15 EST From: STRETCH OR DROWN/ EVOLVE OR DIE Subject: Re: request for theory info. Another interesting book that uses literary theory in a very different disciplinary space is Patricia Williams, The Alchemy of Race and Rights. Laurie Finke finkel@kenyon.edu ==================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 08:28:00 CDT From: Virginia Sapiro Subject: Re: request for theory info. On doing theory: bell hooks' TALKING BACK is very helpful to combat the argument that theory is just elitist. Virginia Sapiro, Dept of Political Science sapiro@polisci.wisc.edu ==================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 09:17:30 EST From: JLONG@SUVM.BITNET Subject: defending feminist theory I haven't arrived at an answer to the question, but it is one my grad seminar i n Feminist Theory is grappling with this semester. We began by sharing experie nces with Theory-with-a-capital T and with feminism, problematizing their overl ap. These leads to the conclusion that critiques of feminsit theory from the position of Theory whose masculinity remains unproblematized are not asking the right question(s) --hence my reaction is it's usually not worth our while to en gage in such 'debates.' Sources that say it better than I include Patti Lather Getting Smart and Patricia Hill Collins' black feminist epistemology --both locate the problematic in epistemology, where I think it belongs. --JUDY LONG, SOCIOLOGY DEPARTMENT, SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY -- --103 SIMS IV, SYRACUSE, NY 13244-1230, USA (315)443-4580 -- --Bitnet: JLONG@SUVM Internet: JLONG@SUVM.ACS.SYR.EDU -- ==================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 11:12:06 EST From: Linda Lopez McAlister Subject: On Writing Feminist Academic Prose That's the title of an editorial by Ruth-Ellen B. Joeres in SIGNS (Summer 1992) which makes an important contribution to the conversation about accessibility of feminist theoretical writing, I think. Linda Lopez McAlister/HYPATIA: A Journal of Feminist Philosophy Women's Studies Dept. Internet: DLLAFAA@CFRVM.CFR.USF.EDU Univ. of South Florida Bitnet: DLLAFAA@CFRVM Tampa, FL 33620 (813) 974-5531 ==================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 11:17:38 EST From: Linda Lopez McAlister Subject: P.S. There's going to be an article about feminist academic journals in The Chronicle of Higher Education next week which will, I imagine, get into the questions of High Theory/low theory--or feminist theory in the upper- case and lower-case as Saunders and Martindale call it in Hypatia 7(4). You might have your student take a look at that, too. Linda Lopez McAlister/HYPATIA: A Journal of Feminist Philosophy Women's Studies Dept. Internet: DLLAFAA@CFRVM.CFR.USF.EDU Univ. of South Florida Bitnet: DLLAFAA@CFRVM Tampa, FL 33620 (813) 974-5531 ==================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 08:19:30 PST From: Ann Weinstone Subject: feminists doing theory I would recommend "Feminists Theorize the Political" ed. Judith Butler.. ==================================================================== Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 22:51:59 -0800 From: Jennifer Holberg Subject: Re: request for theory info. In reference to the request for feminists defending theory: I found Robyn Warhol's introductory chapter to her book _Gendered Interventions_ entitled "Why Don't Feminists `Do' Narratology?" extremely helpful in my own work. A very cogent argument and explanation as to why feminists should, indeed, be doing theory. _________________________________________ |Jennifer L. Holberg | |Dept. of English | |University of Washington | |jholberg@u.washington.edu | | | |"Whatever it is, let it be without | | affectation" | | Marianne Moore | ----------------------------------------- ==================================================================== Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1993 11:15:54 -0700 From: Harriet Linkin Subject: Re: request for theory info. College English has been actively publishing some rather interesting approaches to the issue of "doing" feminist theory in feminist language. One article that provoked a great deal of commentary is Jane Tompkins' "Pedagogy of the Distressed" (College English 52 [1990]: 653-660). And Olivia Frey's "Beyond Literary Darwinism: Women's Voices and Critical Discourse" in the same issue is quite enlightening. I also very much like Maria Torgovnick's short piece in Profession 90 (1990): 25-27 on "Experimental Critical Writing" (which discusses how she came to pursue the experimental critical voice she inhabits in Gone Primitive, 1990). Hope that's helpful! Harriet Linkin The daughters of lions are New Mexico State University also lions. --Swahili Proverb hlinkin@nmsu.edu ==================================================================== Date: 04 Mar 1993 10:02:35 -0500 (EST) From: INGRAHAM@ITHACA.BITNET Subject: Theory You might check the work of Teresa Ebert or Rosemary Hennessy. Each works as a theorist in literary studies. Ebert had a recent article in College English which dealt with the reclaiming of postmodern theory for a feminist or resistance agenda. Hennessy has a new book out from Routledge titled Materialist Feminism and the Politics of Discourse. Sorry i don't have the citations on Ebert's work but the above mentioned article is quite useful. ==================================================================== Date: 4 Mar 93 14:27:42 EST From: cmusers Subject: feminist theory I am responding to the posting I read on the Women's Studies list. I am not quite comfortable with the general posting, but I wanted to respond to your question about defenses of feminists doing theory. First I want to say that this is an ongoing discussion that those of us who "do" theory find (at times) quite exhausting. I find myself dealing with questions about accessibility, usefulness, etc. which seem to perpetuate the illusion of separate spheres of doing and theorizing and which seem to rewrite the history of feminisms which have it seemed to me always been theoretically sophisticated (even when theorizing anti-theory). I taught Feminist Theories last fall and we began the class with the debate--the students read Barbara Christian (of course) and a new piece by bell hooks, published in the Yale Journal of Law and Feminism, special issue about theory and practice. hooks' essay is "Theory as Liberatory Practice." It re-locates theory in the everyday and reminds everyone that languages are culturally constructed and theory is not (as a practice) language specific; it is an act of agency, and (I would add) inescapable and inevitable and joyful and playful in our lives. Good luck. Darlene Hantzis, Director of Women's Studies Indiana State University cmdarlen@ruby.indstate.edu ==================================================================== Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1993 22:07 PST From: MEDELSTEIN@SCUACC.SCU.EDU Subject: Responses from Donna Phillips and Temma Berg To: KORENMAN@UMBC2.UMBC.EDU Thanks for your prompt reply to my last message. The responses from Donna Phillips and Temma Berg follow. Donna Phillips wrote: "Patricia Hill Collins is a Sociologist at Univ. of Cincinnati. Two yrs ago I heard her give a lecture on how women do theory as opposed to how men do. She was wonderful! The lecture was from a forthcoming book. I don't know the name of the book but I believe the title would "give it away." Tell student to try Books in Print for recent "single author" books by Collins. (Anything by her is good, but one book addresses the issue at hand." [The title is BLACK FEMINIST THOUGHT: KNOWLEDGE, CONSCIOUSNESS, AND THE POLITICS OF EMPOWERMENT, published by Unwin Hyman, 1990. JK] I'm missing the first line of Temma Berg's reply (not printed out) (and I have to retype these replies, since I don't know how to edit/use parts of received e-mail), but she wrote: ". . .I have been very concerned with this tendency to disparage feminists who "do theory." In an essay entitled "Suppressing the Language of Wo(Man): The Dream as a Common Language," in Engendering the Word: Feminist Essays in Psychosexual Poetics (U of Illinois P, 1989), I address these issues. The book as a whole, which comes out of the first feminist seminar to be held at the School of Criticism and Theory, addresses these issues. I edited it along with Anna Shannon Elfenbein, Jeanne Larsen, and Elisa Kay Sparks. I also wrote an essay about "Louise M. Rosenblatt: A Woman in Theory," in The Experience of Reading: Louise Rosenblatt and Reader-Response Theory, ed. by John Clifford (Heinemann, 1991), in which I suggest that women may indeed do theory differently, but women have always done theory. All the ones you mention are, of course, excellent. I just thought you might want to add these to your list. I am definitely pro-theory." Temma Berg, Dept. of English Gettysburg College, Gettysburg PA 17325 Marilyn Edelstein medelstein@scuacc.scu.edu ==================================================================== Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1993 08:14:55 -0700 From: "AVRIL TORRENCE, ENGLISH DEPT. LOC. 5945" Subject: Re: request for theory info. To add to Harriet's earlier message, I just read Laurie Finke's article in the most recent --College English-- "Knowledge as Bait...." and enjoyed it thoroughly. Laurie Finke herself is on this list, and I'm sure that she can tell you far more than I can. But let me say that her bringing together principles of pyschoanalysis and feminist pedagogy was unique to me, and has made me reevaluate my own feminist teaching practices. atorrence@janus.mtroyal.ab.ca ==================================================================== Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 09:41:34 EST From: STRETCH OR DROWN/ EVOLVE OR DIE Subject: Re: click experience [First paragraph deleted] One more thing, while I have your attention. This is in regard to the recent discussion over poststructuralism and feminist theory. I discovered today an essay by Eloise A. Buker, a political scientist at theUniversity of Utah, called 'Rhetoric in Postmodern Feminism: Put Offs, Put-Ons, and Political Plays." It appeared in a book called The Interpretive Turn, edited by David Hiley, James F. Bohman, and Richard Shusterman (Cornell, 1991). Though I haven't read the whole essay it seems very interesting. It is not an essay that would immediately come to the attention of feminist theorists since it was printed in a book in which it is the *only* essay by a woman. All the others are by men. It is a defense of feminist "high" theory. Laurie Finke finkel@kenyon.edu ==================================================================== Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 20:51:00 PST From: MEDELSTEIN@SCUACC.SCU.EDU Subject: thanks for refs re: feminists defending theory Thanks to all those who sent references in response to my query last week seeking references to work in which feminists defended "doing theory" or using theoretical language. Although a number of texts suggested were familiar to me, some I hadn't thought of in this context, and there were also new ones I and my student(s) will no doubt find very useful. Students (undergrads, esp.) seem apt to latch onto any attacks they find on theory or theoretical language, given their general "resistance to theory," (which they share with some faculty, and which I assume is not to unique to undergraduates at my univ.). I want to expose students in my Contemp. Critical Theory and in my Feminist Theory and Criticism classes to as full a range of feminist views as possible, and to not only works of theory, but commentaries on/critiques of theory. But I want them to assess both open-mindedly. Joan Korenman will (kindly, generously) be compiling the responses to this query into a new file which will be made available to the list. There were certainly a number of useful, interesting, and revealing responses. Some people suggested the very texts that have made my "non-theorist" colleagues throw up their hands in despair at the opacity of theoretical language, so I don't imagine they'd be likely to win over skeptical undergraduates. Others are wonderful examples of feminists "doing [poststructuralist] theory" well, even if not explicit defenses of the feminist use of theory. Some were such explicit rationales or defenses, particularly of feminists using/rewriting/subverting/changing poststructuralist theory. A few additional titles that might be of interest to those following this discussion on the list: Joan Scott, "Deconstructing Equality-Versus-Difference: Or, the Uses of Poststructuralist Theory for Feminism" (was in _Feminist Studies_ 14 [1988], rpt. in _Conflict in Feminism_, ed. Marianne Hirsch and Evelyn Fox Keller--an excellent collection of essays) (it also has a fine essay by Teresa de Lauretis called "Upping the Anti (sic) in Feminist Theory" and a few other essays relevant to this issue) A couple of recent works by Laurie Finke were mentioned; there's also her earlier "The Rhetoric of Marginality: Why I do Feminist Theory" in _Tulsa Studies in Women's Literature_ 5 (1986) Probably relevant (and I think not yet mentioned) are Linda Alcoff "Cultural Feminism Versus Post-Structuralism: The Identity Crisis in Feminist Theory" _Signs_ 13 (1988) Jane Flax, "Postmodernism and Gender Relations in Feminist Theory" _Signs_ 12 (1987). These all address specifically whether and why feminists should involve themselves in theorizing and especially in poststructuralist feminizing. I was glad to find a few additional works on the language in which feminists do theory (for instance, Frey's fine essay in _College English_ in 1980 on non-agonistic styles of critical writing). Anyway, thanks again to all of those who responded; this list is often invaluable for the sharing of ideas and information. And I trust the conversation about feminist and/on theory will continue, in the academy and maybe even on this list, esp. after Joan makes the file of references available (and thanks in advance to her). Marilyn Edelstein, Dept. of English, Santa Clara U, CA medelstein@scuacc.scu.edu ==================================================================== Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 20:57:00 PST From: MEDELSTEIN@SCUACC.SCU.EDU Subject: corrections to previous message Well, I guess this proves one shouldn't send e-mail in the evening of a very long day. I didn't mean to coin a phrase "poststructuralist feminizing" in my just-sent message thanking people for references to work defending feminists' use of theory. I meant to say "poststructuralist theorizing"--although perhaps the coined phrase is a useful one! There are a couple of run-of-the mill e-mail typos in that message, too, but I thought I'd send this lest anyone wonder what "feminizing" is. Marilyn Edelstein medelstein@scuacc.scu.edu