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Date:         Sun, 1 Feb 1998 09:30:57 -0500
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From:         Nelda K Pearson <npearson@RUNET.EDU>
Subject:      Coalitian building
In-Reply-To:  <1.5.4.32.19980130144722.006bd7b0@delta.franklincoll.edu> from
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Jill-

We (Beans and Rice, Inc) are in the midst of a major coalition building
activity to move the care of the low income after school and pre-school
programs into the larger concern of the community.  The coalition crosses
race lines (the newly forming ASP Council is made up of women in the low
income housing units and are African American and White), class lines (two
community groups in the coalition are Radford/Fairlawn Daily Bread --a
soup kitchen started by the ministerial association--and the Women's
Resoource Center--a grassroots locally developed organization which is now
a firmly established councelling/safe house center), and age (three
student groups from the Radford University, two AF AM service groups and
one integrated service group).  BTW, we just got our tax exempt status.
for this project however the RU Foundation is going to act as fiscal
agent.  We are in the final reading for a Community Problem solving grant
at Mary Reynolds Babcock (MRB).  They are encouraging us to amply BUT they
up until now were funding primarly process oriented projects while we are
using a program (ASP/PSP programs) to drive the process of dialogue
between classes and races and to bring the low income housing units from
margin to center in the City.  They see that we are probelm solving and
have made it clear that there is an internal philosphical debate MRB over
which comes first program or process.  We are saying they need to be
simultaneous--that the program creates an energy point for dialogue and
process to begin.

No matter what the outcome with Mary Reynolds Babcock I would like to put
together a case study of our coalition building addressing prgram as
process fo the special issue.  The deadline for the MRB is February 13 so
we should know something by the time of the abstract deadline.  What they
decide will of course affect the point of view that the case study takes.

Let me know if this suits your needs. How's the book coming and where are
we on it now ?

Take care-
Nelda
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Date:         Sun, 1 Feb 1998 10:41:49 -0500
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Subject:      messages not to send to WMST-L (User's Guide)
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        Yesterday, someone sent to WMST-L an article from a newspaper.  She
shouldn't have done that, since the article is covered by copyright and she
doesn't own the copyright.  Just in case other people are unclear about
what kinds of postings should not be sent to WMST-L, here's part of the
section from the User's Guide that covers this.  PLEASE READ IT CAREFULLY,
EVEN IF YOU THINK YOU KNOW WHAT IT CONTAINS.  Thanks.

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        3A) "Are there other messages that should not be sent to WMST-L?"

        There are a number of messages that should NEVER be sent to WMST-L.
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Date:         Sun, 1 Feb 1998 14:19:48 -0500
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From:         Rich Cowan <rcowan@LESLEY.EDU>
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A couple of years ago I posted a message to this e-mail list detailing how
right-wing groups such as the Young Americas Foundation were advising
conservative student activists to challenge women's studies funding.
Conservative groups advised students to obtain a list of hosted speakers
and then argue for the defunding of programs that host only "liberal"
feminists like Gloria Steinem or Angela Davis, as opposed to conservative
"feminists" like Christina Hoff Sommers or the head of Feminists for Life.
[source:  Young Americas Foundation Conservative Guide to Campus Activism]

Some new developments to report:

1.  The Center for Campus Organizing published in 11/97 an updated,
134-page book titled Uncovering the Right on Campus.  This $8 book contains
far more coverage of affirmative action, gay/lesbian, and feminist
controversies than the earlier edition.  Excerpts are on line: see
http://cco.org/right/antifem.html.  Of particular note is the involvement
of new groups like Phyllis Schafly's Eagle Forum Collegians in such attacks
http://www.eagleforum.org/college.

2.  The Monica Lewinsky Tie-in.  One of the organizations featured in
_Uncovering the Right_ is the Center for Study of Popular Culture/
Individual Rights Foundation headed by David Horowitz.  Horowitz has been
instrumental in providing legal support and publicity for the defense of
internet columnist Matt Drudge, the man who leaked the story about the
Clinton sex scandal to the media.  Horowitz's group received $1,325,000 in
1994-5 from foundations controlled by Pittsburgh publisher Richard Scaife,
an ultraconservative who has bankrolled dozens of antifeminist groups.
Horowitz has been particularly combative when it comes to issues of
challenging sexual harrassment in the military, or funding rape crisis
centers on campus (see Washington Post, 4/23/94).  The website on
Horowitz's group and his publication, Heterodoxy, at http://www.cspc.org.

Since Hilary Clinton made her remarks about a "right-wing conspiracy" a few
days ago, Horowitz has been dismissing those who question his right-wing
agenda or funding sources as "paranoid" (see US News, 2/9/98).  Horowitz's
ravings just a few years back, about totalitarian leftists and "femi-nazis"
controlling campuses in a "PC" conspiracy, were of course, expressions of
the utmost sanity.

3.  The Rutherford Institute (http://www.rutherford.org), a fundamentalist
Christian legal group twice the size of Horowitz's group, is now
establishing a chapter network on law schools.  This marks the beginning of
an attempt to train more religious conservative judges, as opposed to the
economic conservative judges who, like independent prosecutor Kenneth
Starr, are part of the 15-year-old Federalist Society
(http://www.fed-soc.org) (see NY Times, 1/28/98).


If you would like to engage in a campus discussion about about the Right's
agenda, there is a listserv reaching about 400 people for this purpose.  To
subscribe, send a message to canet@pencil.math.missouri.edu, and in the
body of the message, put only this:

  sub can-rw firstname lastname

Hope this is helpful.

-Rich Cowan

 Former director of CCO and coordinator, Uncovering the Right project




rcowan@lesley.edu  *  Independent Consultant  *  (617) 628-8735
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reflect the views of any organization with which I am affiliated.
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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 08:23:18 -0500
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        I've been getting a surprising number of messages from people
asking me to unsubscribe them.  They apparently think my time is less
valuable than theirs.  I don't agree :-).  Most but not all are people who
get the EDITED DIGEST and haven't bothered to read the User's Guide or the
monthly reminders in the past year and a half, since the command changed.

        Instead of posting a section from the User's Guide today, I will
post what I hope is a straightforward message about how to unsubscribe.
PLEASE READ AND SAVE THIS MESSAGE!!  Thanks.

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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 13:07:53 -0500
Reply-To:     gcarr@bucknell.edu
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From:         Glynis Carr <gcarr@BUCKNELL.EDU>
Organization: Bucknell University
Subject:      CFP  Feminism, Literature, and the Environment
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CALL FOR PAPERS - - - DISTRIBUTE WIDELY

FEMINISM, LITERATURE, AND THE ENVIRONMENT

The Bucknell Review, a biannual, multidisciplinary journal, invites
critical or creative essays for a special issue on feminist literary
ecocriticism (contracted to appear in the year 2000).  Possible topics
include, but are not limited to:

--manifestos of critical theoretical practice
--relationships between literature and environmental activism
--feminist readings of literary text(s)
--including but not limited to nature writing by women
--any genre
--any historical period
--any indigenous, national, or international literary tradition
--gender and environmental literary history
--interrelations between ecofeminist literature and the other arts
--ecofeminist perspectives on literature and whiteness, racism,
or anti-colonial struggles
--cross-cultural studies of constructions of nature
--intersections of sexuality, language, and culture
--queer studies
--ecocriticism in a creatively critical voice

We are especially interested in essays exploring issues, writers and
writings that are marginalized in existing ecocriticism.  Noticeably
rare, for example, are ecocritical studies of African American and other
ethnic literatures.  We also want to encourage experimental,
transgressive, and nonconformist critical writing, including criticism
in a personal voice.  Topics may be explored from any (feminist)
theoretical perspective, but papers should be theoretically informed and
well-written.

Bucknell Review is of interest to those working in many areas including
critical theory, cultural history, gender studies, philosophy, queer
theory, English and comparative literature, postcolonial studies,
literature=92s interrelations with the arts, and cultural studies.  Recen=
t
past issues include Worldviews and Ecology, eds. Mary Evelyn Tucker and
John Grim (1993; v. 37.2); Irishness and (Post)Modernism, ed. John
Rickard (1994; v. 38.1); and Having Our Way:  Women Rewriting Tradition
in Twentieth-Century America, ed. Harriet Pollack (1995; v. 39.1).

Submissions should be 15-25 typed, double-spaced pages (including notes)
in Chicago style.

DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSION:  January 15, 1999.
Earlier submissions are encouraged.

Please send all contributions, inquiries, and other correspondence to:

Glynis Carr
Department of English
Bucknell University
Lewisburg, PA  17837
717-524-3118
gcarr@bucknell.edu

* * * * * * *


--
Glynis Carr
Associate Professor of English
Bucknell University
Lewisburg, PA  17837
gcarr@bucknell.edu
http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/gcarr
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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 11:24:04 EST
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From:         "Linda Lopez McAlister, SWIP-L Moderator"
              <HYPATIA@CFRVM.CFR.USF.EDU>

From: Linda Lopez McAlister, SWIP-L Moderator
To: SWIP    --CMSNAMES
From: Linda Lopez McAlister, SWIP-L Moderator
Subject: 8th Symposium of the Int'l. Assn. for Women in Philosophy
Lessons from the Gynaeceum--Women Philosophizing--Past, Present, Future

August 6-10, 1998, Boston, MA   Just prior to the World Congress of Philosophy


Information about the Symposium and a registration form that you can download
and mail in is now available on the World Congress of Philosophy website.  In
English it's:
http://web.bu.edu/WCP/IAPH/iaphengl.html

In German: http://web.bu.edu/WCP/IAPH/iaphgerm.html

Deadline for early registration and inexpensive housing in the BU dorms is
March 1, 1998.  Registration costs rise and availablity of dormitory housing
is no longer guaranteed after that date.

The program is being put together now and we will try to get a preliminary one
on the website soon, but it will be tentative until after March 1 which is also
the deadline for participants to confirm that they will be coming and giving
their papers.

We expect it to be a truly global conference; we have had acceptances from
women philosophers from every continent (except Antarctica).

Besides nearly 200 paper presentations, panels, workshops, etc.  There will
be screenings of films about women philosophers, a slide show of images of
17th C. women philosophers, and other media programs.

I think you'll want to come and encourage your students to come as well.
There is no registration fee for IAPh members and dues are inexpensive:
$35.00 for regular membership and $20.00 for students/un or underemployed.

Linda Lopez McAlister

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Linda Lopez McAlister, Editor, HYPATIA; Listowner SWIP-L; Chair
Dept. of Women's Studies, University of South Florida, Tampa.
Tel. 813-974-0982/FAX 813-974-0336/mcaliste@chuma.cas.usf.edu

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Linda Lopez McAlister, Editor, HYPATIA; Listowner SWIP-L; Chair
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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 12:58:37 -0600
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Jacqueline Haessly <jacpeace@ACS.STRITCH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: AAUP directory (fwd)
Comments: To: Daniel Di Domizio <ddom@acs.stritch.edu>,
          John Perkins <johnjune@wolfenet.com>,
          Christine Cantrell <MacC@c3net.net>
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Last week someone posted a message re directories for publishing academic
work, including dissertations.  AAUP directory was mentioned as one
source.  A search of local bookstores in our area came up empty.  I just
received this infor from AAUP directly, and am forwarding it to the list
for those interested.

peace,  Jacpeace@acs.stritch.edu   Image Peace!

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 09:43:39 -0800 (PST)
From: aaupny@netcom.com
To: Jacqueline Haessly <jacpeace@acs.stritch.edu>
Cc: e-mail:  ;
Subject: Re: AAUP directory

We apologize for the delay in responding to your message of 1/27 (I've
been on vacation).
The fastest way to order and obtain a copy  of the AAUP directory is by
calling 800-621-2736 (this number is for credit card orders). Let me know
if you prefer to pay by check (the directory is $19 including postage)
and I will mail or fax you (if you provide a fax number) a directory
order form.  L.McCall

On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Jacqueline Haessly wrote:

> I was referred to this email address to order a copy of the Association of
> American University Presses AAUP directory.  I was informed that
> this directory provides information about academic publishing, and
> includes info about which presses publish dissertations, both as
> scholarly works and as books.  Please post ordering information, or mail
> and send bill to
>
> Jacqueline Haessly   2437 N. Grant Blvd.  Milwaukee, WI   5321O-2941
>
> Thank you.  Peace,  Jacqueline Haessly  jacpeace@acs.stritch.edu  Image
> Peace!
>
>
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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 14:25:54 -0500
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         "Lynn H. Collins" <lcollins@UBMAIL.UBALT.EDU>
Subject:      AWP registration, program, and hotel info.
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Hi,

I just wanted to remind everyone that the Association for Women in
Psychology hotel reservation deadline (at $100+tax/night single or
double, Baltimore Hilton and Towers, 1-800-333-3333) is February 4th and
the next pre-conference registration deadline is February 13th. The
conference runs from March 5th-March 8th.

If you would like a registration form, let me know. I have e-mail versions
of both the registration form and program, if you would like one.

Lynn H. Collins, Ph.D.

*****23rd Annual Association for Women in Psychology Conference*****
        Baltimore Hilton & Towers, March 5-8th, 1998

        For registration information please contact me at:

            Applied Psychology & Quantitative Methods
                    University of Baltimore
                      1420 N. Charles St.
                   Baltimore, MD 21201-5779

                           or e-mail:
                     lcollins@ubmail.ubalt.edu
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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 16:02:01 -0500
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From:         Joellen Thomas <thomas.678@OSU.EDU>
Subject:      Rock for Choice
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I am posting this for someone not on the WMST list.  Please respond to her
privately, and many thanks in advance!

            ******************************************************

I am working on an M.A. thesis concerning Rock for Choice, a concert started
in 1991 by the band L7 and benefitting the Feminist Majority and its
foundation.  I am interested in talking with anyone who has been to a Rock
for Choice concert and especially with anyone who has helped to organize
one.  Thanks!

Maria Zazycki
zazycki.4@osu.edu
Dept. of Women's Studies
The Ohio State University
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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 16:29:12 -0500
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From:         Maria Bevacqua <mbevacq@EMORY.EDU>
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I received so many responses to my request for suggestions of ecofeminism
speakers that I would thank you all publicly.  The student who wanted the
information is bound to find someone terrific out of the pile of
suggestions I handed him.

I am working on combining all the responses into a single post to the
list.  This will take a bit of time, but keep your eye out for it if
you're interested.

Cheers,
Maria

Maria Bevacqua, Ph.D.
Institute for Women's Studies
Emory University
Atlanta, GA  30322
mbevacq@emory.edu


Linus:     I thought little girls always believed everything that was told to
    them.  I thought little girls were innocent and trusting.

Sally:     Welcome to the 20th century.

(1966)
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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 17:05:37 -0500
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From:         Cynthia Harrison <harrison@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU>
Subject:      human evolution (fwd)
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Here's a reply I received privately to my query about separate
evolutionary tracks for men and women. I found it very helpful and so I'm
sharing it.

Cynthia Harrison
History/Women's Studies
The George Washington University

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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 14:44:15 -0600
From: Florence L Ledwitz-Rigby <ledrigby@uwec.edu>
To: harrison@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu
Cc: Cynthia H Welch <welchch@uwec.edu>
Subject: human evolution

I was forwarded your question about "separate evolution of the sexes" by
Cynthia Welch. I am a reproductive physiologist who has taught Biology of
Women and Biology of Gender Identity.

I agree with your reasoning, most of the way.  Our genes per se are not
different by sex, the second X chromosome in women has most of its genes
inactivated, and those that aren't , are also present on the Y chromosome.
The major genetic difference between the sexes are a couple of genes on the
Y chromosome.  These control 1) the turning on of a large number of genes,
some of which are involved in the development of a testis, and 2)  a cell
surface protein ( H-Y antigen) - which may influence how cells recognize
each other.

Once the testis develops ( during the first trimester of pregnancy) it
produces testosterone and other hormones that can influence brain
development. ( All mammalian embryos are bathed in high concentrations of
female hormones produced by the placenta and maternal ovary - so their
contribution by  the embryonic gonad are not influential).

It is possible that these genes could influence some aspects of brain
development - particularly the numbers of synapses made along specific
pathways - which would influence the sensitivity of the pathways to various
stimuli.  Animal studies support the concepts that there are different
sensitivities of specific pathways to specific stimuli between the sexes.
The gonadal steroid hormones, ( Progesterone, estrogens, androgens) can
also influence the sensitivity of established neural  pathways to specific
stimuli.  (For example: Estrogen enhances sensitivity to odor, androgens
enhance aggressive responses, territoriality and sex drive).

All of this does not say that males and females evolved separately but
rather that the human brain evolved the ability to respond to a variety of
chemical signals that may be influenced by the chemical differences that
exist in  male and female embryos.   In general there is more variability
amongst a single gender, than there is between the means for the two
genders. The human brain seems to have fewer differences between genders,
than the bird or rat brain, where more stereotyped gender different
behaviors are found.   Thus human evolution might be said to be heading
away from gender differences.

One other interesting point re: gender  genetic differences.  Women have
two copies of many important genes on their 2 X chromosomes. Due to random
inactivation of one of the X chromosomes in each cell during early
development,if  one X carries a   detrimental mutation , the cells in which
the mutated gene is expressed are likely to die out, and only healthy cells
expressing the good gene are left in females.  In males with only one X
chromosome, this choice isn't available, thus there are many more male
embryonic deaths, and males born with major medical problems ( muscular
dystrophy, hemophilia etc.)  Women have a  better genetic condition to
"evolve" as they can survive more experimental mutations than men.  When
they have a postitive mutation ( one that makes a more effective protein)
they can pass it on to their sons.

Some sociobiologists use the term evolution in a very loose, non-chemical
or physiological sense.

I hope this helps and is not far more detail than you ever wished for.

Best regards.

Florence

Florence Ledwitz-Rigby
1503 Edgewood Drive
Altoona Wisconsin 54720

(715) 831 9031
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Date:         Mon, 2 Feb 1998 23:42:32 +0100
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From:         Thomas Gramstad <thomasg@IFI.UIO.NO>
Subject:      Self-esteem and body image

Some time ago I read about a group that had done research on women's
self-esteem, body type and ethnic background.  They interviewed
young women, and the expectation was that black women would have the
lowest level of self-esteem because they were subject to the most
severe discrimination (both racist and sexist discrimination).
However, the result of this investigation was that as a group, young
white women had the poorest self-esteem, followed by Asian women,
while young black women had a higher level of self-esteem.  Over 90 %
of the white women had an image of an ideal body type (5'7",
anorectic) which they felt they didn't match up to (too short, too
tall, too fat, etc.).  A corresponding body type ideal was quite
widespread among the Asian women.  But the black women usually did
not compare themselves to such an image, and thus their self-esteem
was not impaired by being different from an ideal image.

This particular research used to be at a web site
(http://webx.dn.net/webx?13@^9693@/Women%20Online%20Worldwide/Black%20Women's%20
 Support%20Network/14)
but is now gone.

So I have two questions: Does anyone have a reference to this
particular research (online or journal/book references)?
And does anyone have references to other, similar research?
(And if so, do they reinforce or contradict the conclusions of the
above group?)

Thomas Gramstad
thomasg@ifi.uio.no
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The latest issue of Lingua Franca (Feb., 1998) has an article about a male
Sociologist at Colby College who was denied tenure primarily (the article
claims) because he required students in his sociological theory courses to
write about their family lives and how it related to the theory they read.
Three women students were uncomfortable with the way the assignment was
structured, and the teacher's responses to their papers, and filed
complaints against him.  The situation is complicated by the fact that he
was a divorced middle-aged man, who lived on campus and spent a lot of time
socializing with students.  The article raised many questions for me.

        In my introductory women's studies classes (of 40 - 48), I encourage
students to self disclose and relate the readings to their personal lives.
They participate on oral panels on personal topics (for only 10% of their
grade and almost everyone gets an A), and starting last semester, using
suggestions on this listserv by Arnie Kahn and others, I had students write
personal essays (responding to those in Listen Up: Voices from the Next
Feminist Generation) which we assembled into a book (again worth only 10% of
the grade). I always tell students that they do not have to talk or write
about "heavy" topics, that they can discuss very positive experiences, and I
always caution students to talk and write only about experiences that they
have worked through, already talked to others about etc. I permit students
to  write their essays under a pseudonym if they want. I have always had
very positive responses to these exercises from the students, and I believe
it permits students of different genders, races, ages, social classes and
political persuasions to really listen to each other. At the end of last
semester, I read the students some of the criticisms of personal disclosure
in Professing Feminism (e.g., that it encourages women to see themselves as
victims), and the majority said that they did not agree with the criticism.
But after the Lingua Franca piece, I'm feeling "nervous" about what has
here-to-fore been a successful pedagogy for me.

        I want to ask if any women's studies faculty have had negative
experiences with incorporating students autobiographical material into their
courses.  Can you recommend other articles that discuss positive and/or
negative consequences with this pedagogy?

Kay Trimberger
Women and Gender Studies Program
Sonoma State University
E. Kay Trimberger
Coordinator and Professor
Women's Studies Program
Sonoma State University
707 664-2086/2840
Trimberg@Sonoma.edu
ektrim@uclink2.berkeley.edu
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From: Trimberger E. KAY <ektrim@UCLINK2.BERKELEY.EDU>
To: WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Date: Monday, February 02, 1998 4:55 PM

..snip....
>        I want to ask if any women's studies faculty have had negative
>experiences with incorporating students autobiographical material into
their courses.

..snip...


Each semester, 80+ students in my "family nursing" class do a comprensive
paper analyzing facets of their own family of origin.  It is a powerful
method for learning family analysis but I too worried that students might be
uncomfortable revealing family history, secrets and baggage, etc....

In my syllabus I include a statement about personal disclosure.  I indicate
that for some written and oral exercises we will be using our own families
as a reference point.  I clearly state that students are ALWAYS free to
disguise or with-hold information if they wish, in order to feel safe.

Last year I surveyed the students after the paper was completed and asked
them (anonymously) whether they had felt free to with-hold information or
had they felt compelled to reveal information they did not wish to reveal.
I also asked what they gained from the experience and whether they would
recommend i change the assignment.  They unanimously told me it was a great
assignment, that they grew a lot from doing it and not to change a thing.
They also admitted that it was at times painful...but important to do.

I feel that this survey data would be useful to me if a student were ever to
take issue with this in course evaluations or in promotion/tenure review.
You may want to survey your students similarly to collect their views on how
they feel about disclosure in your classroom.

-debra-


*********************************************
Debra Kirkley MEd, RNC
Assistant Clinical Professor
Texas Woman's University
College of Nursing
Dallas, Texas
dkirkley@twu.edu
Doctoral Candidate
University of North Texas
iy52@jove.acs.unt.edu
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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 01:08:00 -0500
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2/2
 To the WMST-L:
     I am forwarding you a letter I sent to the New England Land Grant
 Women list serve which in turn contains the letter of response to the
 John Leo article I sent to the US News and World Report.  You can decide
 for yourself whether Daphne Patai's latest article in the Chronicle of
 HIgher Ed or John Leo's article or mine best captures the intent of that
 Vision 2000, which was created by a whole Council of New England Land
 Grant University women, including staff at women's centers and on
 university president's commissions on women and not just representatives
of women's studies faculty.  There will be a short response to Patai's
 letter on behalf of the New England Land Grant University Women Council
 that is being sent as a letter to the editor of the Chronicle on Higher Ed.
>
     If you have any questions about this report or the developing
 right wing politics attacking it, you can contact me at my email address:
 ferguson@philos.umass.edu.  HOpefully there will also be a workshop
 discussion of the whole Vision 2000 project and responses to it at the
 national NWSA meeting in June in Oswego NY.  I urge you to send your own
 letters to the editor to both the Chronicle and US News and World Report
 giving your own opinions (and also now to the new critique of Vision
2000 and Women's Studies by Christina Hoff Sommers in 2/2/98's Boston Globe.

> >     Best, Ann Ferguson
> >     Director of Women's Studies, Professor of PHilosophy
> >     UMass/Amherst
> > ****************************
> > To the New England Land Grant University Women Council
> > > 1/22
> > > Hi, women!  I thought you'd like to see a copy of my letter to the editor
> > > in response to the negative article by John Leo in US News and World
> > > Report.  Since I am quoted (falsely) by name, I am hoping that they will
> > > feel obligated to print at least part of this letter.. . .
> > > I guess you all know by now that the Visions 2000 report will be uploaded
> > > shortly to the UMass Women's Studies Web page.  Our address is:
> > > www.umass.edu/wost  and it should be under Articles... (We will shortly
> > be uploading a brief history of the creation of the Vision 200 document
> > and our letters in response to the Leo and Patai articles). I like the
> > idea of linking your Web pages with ours on the Vision
> > > 2000. . .
> > >
> > > Best, Ann Ferguson, UMass/Amherst
> > > ferguson@philos.umass.edu
> > > *********************
> > >
>  1/22/98
>  Letter to the Editor, US News and World Report
> > > > >
>  Re: John Leo's article on Vision 2000, Jan. 19, 1998
> > > > >
> >  Freedom of the press is as important as academic freedom in furthering a
> > >marketplace of ideas so as to advance new knowledge.  But reporters ought
> > >to be accountable to provide an accurate rendition of the debate when
> > >controversial issues are at stake. Unfortunately John Leo made little if
> > >any effort to find out what a reasonable interpretation of the Vision
> > >2000 document would be from those who created it.
> > > > >
> > >Leo  claims that the Vision 2000 document "dissolve(s) academic freedom"
> >  and quotes me to suggest that I support overstepping academic freedom in
> >  support of "the wider goal".  But I never advocated "overstepping
academic
> > >freedom": he simply put these words in my mouth.  What I advocate  is a
 > > broader distribution of academic freedom--the academic freedom of students
>  > who may be denied their fair right to learn and excel in a particular
> >  subject matter by exclusion of relevant information or by unfair
pedagogical bias. To ask that student evaluations of faculty teaching include
some evaluation of the adequacy of their coverage of relevant gender
issues and of their gender, racial and ethnic fairness in pedagogy is
> > >asking no more than that faculty  be accountable  for  the merit of their
> > teaching. Demanding faculty responsibility to good, inclusive and fair
 > > taching is not violating their academic freedom
> > > > >
> > >The distortions in Leo's article make it unlikely he even read the
> > >Visions 2000 document. Instead, he relies heavily on the hostile reading
> > >of the document made by Daphne Patai in her letter to the Chronicle of
> > >Higher Education this week, who sees "an attempted coup" and
> > >"imperialism" in what is instead a plea for university-wide cooperation in
> > >expanding our research and curriculum with relevant new knowlege about
> > >gender.  If the framers of the Vision 2000 statement had wanted to make a
> > >coup, we would not have asked  representative bodies at the land grant
> > >universities to discuss and vote on the recommended goals of the
> > >document!  Coups and authoritarian thinkers usually
> > >don't resort to democratic process to institute their changes.
> > > > >
> > >We never suggested that the Women's Studies' programs in each
> > >university be "in charge" of revising the curriculum--rather, it was
> >  assumed that change in the curriculum would likely begin by feminist
faculty in the
> > >various disciplines doing research based on gender and revising existing
> > >courses to include such new knowledge. To read our actual statement about
> > >the process of transforming the curriculum to include more scholarship on
> > >women, which says that such a process "is best conducted with guidance
> > >from an autonomous Women's Studies site and active Women's Studies
> > >scholars working cooperatively with others", as a demand for
> > >authoritarian control is ludicrous at best, and paranoid at worst.
> > > > >
> > >Other implications drawn from the document are equally distorted:
> > >nowhere does it say what Leo attributes to the document, that "all
> >  students and professors would undergo sensitivity training", although
> Vision 2000 does advocate that a process be instituted "in which all
> administrators, faculty,graduate teaching assistants, staff, and students are
> trained in issues of
>  sexual harassment and violence". By not even mentioning what issue such
> >"sensitivity training" is meant to address, Leo's sniggering remarks
> >trivialize the issue of sexual harassment and violence. Clearly a hidden
> >assumption of Leo's article is stated directly by Patai, that sexual
> >harassment and violence against women aren't big problems at our
> >universities, and that we are falsely trying to paint women as
> >victims. But reports show that  sexual harassment and violence against
> women
> are serious issues for campus women.  For example, at UMass/Amherst last
> year, 241 reports of sexual assault (which includes rape, attempted
> rape,voyeurism, assaultive graffiti and stalking) were received by various
>campus services.  Even such numbers, though indicating a small
> percentage compared to all UMass students, understate the problem: not
> only many
> incidents of sexual harassment remain unreported, but known incidents
> happening to some create an uncomfortable campus  climate for all campus
> women which needs to be addressed to create gender equity in learning
> conditions.
> > > > >
> Further examples of a trivializing representation of the document by
> Leo include his disparaging reference to lack of awards to be given to
> departments with high female dropout rates, suggesting that this
> implies a vendetta against science and math teachers.  But these are Leo's
> assumptions, not ours; we don't assume math or science are at fault in this
> way!  In fact, at the UMass/Amherst campus, math and some of the science
> departments, particularly biology and physics, are among the most
> successful departments recruitng and retaining women students.
> > > > >
>Leo shows his own sexist assumptions when he attempts to give a
> counterexample to the emphasis of Vision 2000 by claiming that gender
> equity in course content  would require a course on Renaissance Art to
> include half
> women artists "since 99% were male, since women were excluded or
> discouraged
> from artistic work at the time".  But how does Leo know how many women
> artists there actually were in the Renaissance period, without further
research?
> In fact, scholarly work in other Humanities and Social Science fields such as
> Philosophy and History has uncovered a number of high quality, hitherto
> little known women producers in those fields.   Gender equity in
> course content doesn't mean setting up unrealistic "quotas" of how many
> women should
> be covered in the course material compared to men, but doing
> more research on gender-relevant variables; for example,  to see if any
> notable women are there to be added to enhance the course's coverage and
> perspective!
> > > > >
> Leo (and Patai) continue their distortions by re-defining
> "women-friendly
> pedagogies"--meant only to imply pegagogies where women are not overtly
>disparaged or ignored--to imply that it means the rejection of grading,
> debating, logic, etc as "male techniques".  This is absurd:as a
> Philosophy professor, debating (which implies competition) and logical
> argumentation, are key to the techniques I try to teach my women students as
> well as men, yet I don't see these  at odds with pedagogical techniques
> that elicit the expression of personal experiences, feelings or cooperation
>  in learning.  At any rate, most Women's Studies faculty don't make the crude
> stereotypical contrast between "male" and "female knowledge" that Leo
> implies in his argument. In short, Leo's article totally misrepresents the
> proposals of Vision 2000, and I hope you will print this letter to set
> the record straight on the intended implications of the goals by the
> framers of the document.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > Ann Ferguson, Professor of Philosophy, Director of Women's Studies,
> > > > > U.Mass/Amherst, Box 30530, Univ. of Mass., Amherst, MA 01003
>
>
> --Boundary_(ID_Y2GURCM/BHaxX0UotlZqcQ)--
>
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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 08:34:02 -0500
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From:         Trisha Franzen <TFRANZEN@PCI.ALBION.EDU>
Subject:      domestic violence in Germany

One of our students is having trouble finding sources on domestic
violence in Germany.  If you have any suggestions of materials in either
English or German, we would be very appreciative.  Please respond
privately.

Trisha Franzen, Director
Anna Howard Shaw Center for Women's Studies and Programs
Albion College  KC #4683
Albion,  MI 49224
517 629-5618
TFRANZEN@albion.edu
http://www.albion.edu/fac/womn/
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I am a feminist psychologist, 68.  I suggest that you and your students
consider approaching your concerns by reading matrials about feminist ethics
and viewing the pros and cons of what you all decide to do through
condsidering these various feminist frameworks. I suggest Rosmarie Tong's work
and Alison Jaggar. Hope this helps.
Judith Koplewitz
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From:         Jaime Grant <jgrant@TUI.EDU>
Organization: The Union Institute
Subject:      Re: Student's self revelation in the classroom

In my class on the social history of women's activism, I ask students to
research the story of a woman in their family and see how her life
confronts or accommodates sexism (and/or racism, classism, etc.)  Then,
they're instructed to think about how this legacy has shaped their
responses to these "isms" in their lives.  We create a book from the final
papers.

Throughout the course, I teach women's activism from 1960 to the present
through the narratives of the women who were active in a variety of
movements (anti-nuke, peace, civil rights, anti-violence, etc.).  I ask the
students to notice and think about what these women don't share as well as
what they choose to share.  All semester, we wrestle with the silences as
well as the information presented.

So, when we get to their papers, I ask them to make their best "stretch" at
speaking the truth about their family legacy and their lives -- this is
just for my eyes.  I talk about the importance of knowing your story in
terms of becoming an active participant in one's community/world.  But I
also emphasize that it's their choice how their story gets told/shared.
 It's entirely up to each of them to figure out what's safe and appropriate
to pass on in terms of their own "legacies."  This personal struggle often
helps them see their mother's and grandmother's struggles to tell/withhold
their stories with much more compassion and understanding.
They can pass in an edited version of their paper for the book, or their
piece can be published anonymously, or it can be left out of the book
altogether.

The most important thing for me is that they feel in charge of the
material.  Last year, only one student chose to publish anonymously.  The
eleven other women in the class put their stories out exactly as they'd
submitted them for their final.

My students LOVE this assignment.  For many women, it makes substantial
changes in the way they see their mothers/grandmothers and the way they see
themselves in their families.  It's a very challenging piece of work and
seems to be very rewarding for them.

Hope this helps.

Jaime

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From:    Trimberger E. KAY [SMTP:ektrim@UCLINK2.BERKELEY.EDU]
Sent:    Monday, February 02, 1998 5:22 PM
To:    WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU
Subject:    Student's self revelation in the classroom

The latest issue of Lingua Franca (Feb., 1998) has an article about a male
Sociologist at Colby College who was denied tenure primarily (the article
claims) because he required students in his sociological theory courses to
write about their family lives and how it related to the theory they read.
Three women students were uncomfortable with the way the assignment was
structured, and the teacher's responses to their papers, and filed
complaints against him.  The situation is complicated by the fact that he
was a divorced middle-aged man, who lived on campus and spent a lot of time
socializing with students.  The article raised many questions for me.

        In my introductory women's studies classes (of 40 - 48), I
encourage
students to self disclose and relate the readings to their personal lives.
They participate on oral panels on personal topics (for only 10% of their
grade and almost everyone gets an A), and starting last semester, using
suggestions on this listserv by Arnie Kahn and others, I had students write
personal essays (responding to those in Listen Up: Voices from the Next
Feminist Generation) which we assembled into a book (again worth only 10%
of
the grade). I always tell students that they do not have to talk or write
about "heavy" topics, that they can discuss very positive experiences, and
I
always caution students to talk and write only about experiences that they
have worked through, already talked to others about etc. I permit students
to  write their essays under a pseudonym if they want. I have always had
very positive responses to these exercises from the students, and I believe
it permits students of different genders, races, ages, social classes and
political persuasions to really listen to each other. At the end of last
semester, I read the students some of the criticisms of personal disclosure
in Professing Feminism (e.g., that it encourages women to see themselves as
victims), and the majority said that they did not agree with the criticism.
But after the Lingua Franca piece, I'm feeling "nervous" about what has
here-to-fore been a successful pedagogy for me.

        I want to ask if any women's studies faculty have had negative
experiences with incorporating students autobiographical material into
their
courses.  Can you recommend other articles that discuss positive and/or
negative consequences with this pedagogy?

Kay Trimberger
Women and Gender Studies Program
Sonoma State University
E. Kay Trimberger
Coordinator and Professor
Women's Studies Program
Sonoma State University
707 664-2086/2840
Trimberg@Sonoma.edu
ektrim@uclink2.berkeley.edu
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From:         DAPHNE PATAI <daphne.patai@SPANPORT.UMASS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Reply to John Leo, on Vision 2000
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I'm glad the Vision 2000 document will be available for all to
read. Ann Ferguson is not quoted "falsely" in any articles I know
of.  Her strange view of academic freedom was articulated before the
faculty senate and is on tape.  It's distressing to see the usual
tactic at work: Ann refers to the "right-wing" politics that she sees as
attacking this agenda.  This is a feeble attempt to discredit critics
such as me.  The Vision 2000 document can only harm women's studies.
--
======================
Daphne.Patai@spanport.umass.edu
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Date:         Tue, 3 Feb 1998 11:08:07 -0500
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From:         "Leah C. Ulansey" <leou@JHUNIX.HCF.JHU.EDU>
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On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Trimberger E. KAY wrote:

>
> The latest issue of Lingua Franca (Feb., 1998) has an article about a male
> Sociologist at Colby College who was denied tenure primarily (the article
> claims) because he required students in his sociological theory courses to
> write about their family lives and how it related to the theory they read.
> Three women students were uncomfortable with the way the assignment was
> structured, and the teacher's responses to their papers, and filed
> complaints against him.  The situation is complicated by the fact that he
> was a divorced middle-aged man, who lived on campus and spent a lot of time
> socializing with students.  The article raised many questions for me.


I'm glad someone brought this up. That article raised many questions for
me, too. It's probably worth pointing out that, at least according to the
LF article, the Colby sociology Prof. approached the personal disclosures
and oral histories of students with a "hermeneutics of suspicion." In
other words, unlike the typical WS Prof., he apparently assumed that the
student's process of reflecting and verbalizing about family matters (the
subject he focused on in his assignments) needs to be aggressively
undermined and redirected by the teacher/reader. That's different, in a
subtle but crucial way, from probing--with the student's assistance and
permission--the gaps and silences in the student's narrative. From
the article, which was not unsympathetic to this Prof.(mostly on
grounds of academic freedom), it sounded to me like he was performing
surgery with an unsterilized butcher knife because he simply didn't
realize there might be a better way.

The Colby Prof. is quoted as saying, with regard to students who chose
to write about sad or traumatic aspects of their family life, "I didn't
want any of this boohoo, I'm-a-victim stuff. That's bullshit. I've heard
it a million times" and "There would sometimes be anger from students
because I didn't give them the obligatory empathic response. But again,
why should I?" These remarks, unless they're taken way out of context,
suggest to me that the Prof. did not understand, and did not try to
understand, the kind of damage he could potentially do.

One question comes to my mind: how do other WS instructors respond to
personal disclosure-type papers from students who see themselves as
anti-feminist or those who resist feminism? Speaking for myself, I'd say I
try to put aside my preconceptions and really listen to the
students; try to hear where my anti- or non-feminist students are coming
from (is that "the obligatory empathic response"?). I find out whether we
have some common ground in spite of our disagreements. We usually do have
some common ground in common sense things like pay equity, etc. Then I try
to identify and specify exactly where and on what grounds our points of
view diverge. The student then feels understood and respected. As a
teacher, I've helped the student clarify and contextualize her/his views
and hopefully taught the student that disagreement need not be threatening
or unpleasant.

Another constuctive approach (I'm not sure about this one, and I've
never tried it) MIGHT be to GENTLY, non-judgementally point to personal
experiences that may have contributed to or reinforced the student's
political views, whatever those views are. (I would do this in the form of
a question: "Do YOU see a conection between...?")

    Leah Ulansey
    leou@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu













>
>         In my introductory women's studies classes (of 40 - 48), I encourage
> students to self disclose and relate the readings to their personal lives.
> They participate on oral panels on personal topics (for only 10% of their
> grade and almost everyone gets an A), and starting last semester, using
> suggestions on this listserv by Arnie Kahn and others, I had students write
> personal essays (responding to those in Listen Up: Voices from the Next
> Feminist Generation) which we assembled into a book (again worth only 10% of
> the grade). I always tell students that they do not have to talk or write
> about "heavy" topics, that they can discuss very positive experiences, and I
> always caution students to talk and write only about experiences that they
> have worked through, already talked to others about etc. I permit students
> to  write their essays under a pseudonym if they want. I have always had
> very positive responses to these exercises from the students, and I believe
> it permits students of different genders, races, ages, social classes and
> political persuasions to really listen to each other. At the end of last
> semester, I read the students some of the criticisms of personal disclosure
> in Professing Feminism (e.g., that it encourages women to see themselves as
> victims), and the majority said that they did not agree with the criticism.
> But after the Lingua Franca piece, I'm feeling "nervous" about what has
> here-to-fore been a successful pedagogy for me.
>
>         I want to ask if any women's studies faculty have had negative
> experiences with incorporating students autobiographical material into their
> courses.  Can you recommend other articles that discuss positive and/or
> negative consequences with this pedagogy?
>
> Kay Trimberger
> Women and Gender Studies Program
> Sonoma State University
> E. Kay Trimberger
> Coordinator and Professor
> Women's Studies Program
> Sonoma State University
> 707 664-2086/2840
> Trimberg@Sonoma.edu
> ektrim@uclink2.berkeley.edu
>
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You seem to use the word "gender" as synonymus with the word "sex."  But
they have quite different meanings.  "Gender" refers to the roles that
society imposes on the two sexes.  Ruby Rohrlich
rohrlich@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu
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Hi all,
    I have been lurking for a while but I am really interested in what
people think about the two articles mentioned below.  I have not seen the
Vision 2000 document either but it seems that Daphne Patai is against it
and John Leo was just iterating what the content of the Vision 2000
document says.
    Why are methods of evaluation in the sciences always test based?
Does this not make females shy away?  Is this not "male" methods?

Marina Koether   <M-Koether@neiu.edu>

On Fri, 30 Jan 1998, Pam Frost wrote:
> For everyone like me who missed the print copy of this article and wanted
> to take a look at it, I found it on the Web at:
> http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/980119/19JOHN.HTM
> At 11:17 AM 1/30/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >Did anybody read that obnoxious article by John Leo in U.S. News and World
> >Report, Jan. 19, about Vision 2000?  He sure made it sound like a bunch of
> >dictatorial lunatic bitches were planning to overtake higher education and
> >eventually the world and that truth, justice, and the American way were
> >certainly being threatened by "campus feminists" (particulary at U Mass).
> >>
> >>I just finished reading Daphne Patai's article, "Why Not A Feminist
> >>Overhaul of Higher Education?" in the January 23 edition of the Chronicle.
> >>I was wondering if anyone out there from the New England area has a copy of
> >>Vision 2000 that they could forward, or post to the list, so I could read
> >>it for myself.  Thank you.
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Let's assume Leah is right and the Colby sociology professor who was
denied tenure hadn't actually got the techniques of feminist pedagogy
down right.  Was it therefore justified to deny him tenure?
--
======================
Daphne.Patai@spanport.umass.edu
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Subject:      Robert's Rules of Order

I am looking for discussions of Robert's Rules of Order from a feminist
perspective. Can anyone point me to articles that would be useful for
non-specialists?
   Thanks very much.
   Cynthia Bily   Adrian College  cbily@adrian.edu
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Subject:      Gender in African Languages -- prologue

Friends,

When we were discussing linguistic gender a while back, someone raised the
question about whether not having gender makes speakers of a language less
sexist (as was claimed for Finnish).  Someone else posted the example of a
W. African language, and I posted my observations on a couple of East
African languages.

I probably would have taken all this no further, but someone else posted my
remarks to an East African ethnographer, who sent them on to a specialist in
African languages.  The result of this correspondence has now come back to
me, so I have posted it to the whole list for the benefit on anybody who
still may be interested in this topic (which now seems to be old news.)

(Oops, sorry, two lines up, that was supposed to say "benefit of" not
"benefit on" -- I know I should go into editing mode before writing, but
usually don't bother -- very sorry!)

  -- Gina
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Different linguists distinguish gender in different ways - I talk about
grammatical gender (i.e. in the pronoun system) vs. lexical gender (in
the noun system - including gender-based languages like Romance and
noun-class and classifier languages like Bantu, and Chinese and Japanese
in the latter case).

Of the four major African language families, to my knowledge it is
principally only Afro-Asiatic, the one of the 4 families which has languages
also off as well as on the continent, which has rampant grammatical gender
in the pronoun systems - this goes for Semitic as well as many of the
Chadic languages, though I haven't looked at every branch.  For the
most part, all of the other 3 major families, Nilo-Saharan, Khoisan,
and Congo-Kordofanian (including Niger-Congo) do not have my "grammatical
gender", what Tucker and Bryan call "personal gender".

Sex-based lexical gender, as in Romance, is again concentrated in
AFro-Asiatic but to my knowledge not manifested in the other three families;
noun class-based lexical gender is rampant in the Niger-Congo branch
of Congo-Kordofanian - every branch except for Mande has noun class
characteristics; some say they have even found them in Mande.
Unfortunately I cannot speak for Kordofanian lgs. since I have no
familiarity.

Thus the distribution of "personal gender" of the kind you referred to is
relatively limited in Africa compared to Europe where it is dominant.
Thus, most AFrican languages are "gender-free" in their pronoun systems;
clearly there is no correlation between being "gender-free" in this
way, and degrees of sexism and chauvinism in a given society.

John Hutchison
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I was reading an article in the paper about virginity testing in Turkey.
Several girls tried to kill themselves rather than go through with the
testing. One girl succeeded in killing herself and her father had the test
performed on her dead body.  Has anyone heard of this before?  Is there any
literature on this? What actually is performed to test for virginity? Any
information would be appreciated. thank you
tammie
justicetoo@aol.com
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There's a piece in Women's Studies International Forum in the 1997 issue on
this topic.  I don't have the exact citation with me but I know it's a
piece by Dilek Cindoglu on Virginity Tests and Artificial Virginity.

Sujata


Assistant Professor
Women's Studies
Old Dominion University

(757) 683-4908
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CALL FOR PAPERS

WOMEN AND THE MILLENNIUM

Edited by Somer Brodribb, published by gynergy books
"bringing women's voices into print". Publication date: Fall
1998.

International in scope, positive and realistic, with a view
of the past and a vision of the future, this collection of
essays will explore, within the framework of women's lives,
some of the questions feminists are considering at the turn
of the millenium. How are we forming the future? What will
the issues of sex, race, class, nation, identity and history
mean in the next century? What space will women have? What
borders will there be, in cyberspace and in the material,
social and economic worlds around us? What directions will
our collective action and analysis take? How will feminist
changes materialize?

Papers are invited in such areas as:

o Feminist activism in change Welfare, homelessness and
  poverty
o Economic restructuring and migration
o Cyberspace and communication
o Women's utopian and dystopian writing and
  filmmaking
o Girls' organizing and popular culture
o Reproduction -- conceiving the new world order
o Native women and land claims
o Women and Environments
o Women and health
o Violence against women
o Future lesbians

To submit a proposal, send an abstract (two copies, 250
WORDS MAXIMUM) BY FEBRUARY 28, 1998. ONCE PROPOSALS ARE
APPROVED, ARTICLES WILL BE DUE MAY   20, 1998. Authors who
are concerned with issues of diversity are particularly
welcome. PLEASE INCLUDE A SHORT BIO.

Send abstracts to Somer Brodribb, Department of Women's
Studies, University of Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
V8W 3P4. Tel: 250-472-4277; Fax 250-721-7210. email:
brodribb@uvvm.uvic.ca

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some years ago we media task force of the committee on the status of
women of honolulu attempted to publish a gender neutral version of
robert's rules of order and the members actually worked on the project.
it was not published, however.
you may contact dineh davis, the current chair of the media task force
at <dineh@hawaii.edu> if you are interested in obataining more
information about this project. the revised version was not published
for some reason.

k.a.reynolds
josai international university, japan
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Hi all,

On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Ann Ferguson wrote:
>      I am forwarding you a letter I sent to the New England Land Grant
>  Women list serve which in turn contains the letter of response to the
>  John Leo article I sent to the US News and World Report.
> 1/22/98
> Letter to the Editor, US News and World Report
> Re: John Leo's article on Vision 2000, Jan. 19, 1998
> Freedom of the press is as important as academic freedom in furthering a
> marketplace of ideas so as to advance new knowledge.  But reporters ought
> to be accountable to provide an accurate rendition of the debate when
> controversial issues are at stake. Unfortunately John Leo made little if
> any effort to find out what a reasonable interpretation of the Vision
> 2000 document would be from those who created it.
> Leo  claims that the Vision 2000 document "dissolve(s) academic freedom"
> and quotes me to suggest that I support overstepping academic freedom in
> support of "the wider goal".  But I never advocated "overstepping
> academic freedom": he simply put these words in my mouth.  What I
> advocate  is a broader distribution of academic freedom--the academic
> freedom of students who may be denied their fair right to learn and
> excel in a particular subject matter by exclusion of relevant
> information or by unfair pedagogical bias.

    Could you explain what are unfair pedagogical bias that might
occur in the sciences?

> To ask that student evaluations of faculty teaching include
> some evaluation of the adequacy of their coverage of relevant gender
> issues and of their gender, racial and ethnic fairness in pedagogy is

    Could you explain how students know this and can answer such a
question on a student evaluation in a science class?

Thanks,
    Marina Koether  <M-Koether@neiu.edu>
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>From my years of teaching WS classes, I conclude that when students talk
about themselves, as many perceptions of their strengths as of victims and
some finely textured analyses come thru - so I would expect the same to
happen when self-disclosures are askd for. 'Professing Feminism' thus seems
wrong to say that selve-disclosure encourages victimology.
    But - I never asked for self-disclosure in the apparent sense in which
it's described. I think it's intrusive to ask students to write a paper
about themselves, though I can imagine that it's reasonable to ask students
to connect some feature in their experience in relation to a course topic.
The closest I came to it was in asking students in a Political Economy of
Women course to do repeated interviews with women, asking new questions as
we worked thru readings in labor history and then issues related to
employment as a way of questioning and/or verifying realities presented in
the texts. Some students chose their mothers or another relative. There
were oral reports, with my request that students ask  for clarifications
that would help the reporter write a good paper. Students in all classes
considered the assignment very useful.
     In any case, students tell you and withhold what they want to. If they
use psuedonyms, as you say you suggest as an option, you can't give a grade
for the piece, can you?
    I learned somethingabout students' personal lives, experiences, attitudes,
feelings, and they learned about each other in the course of discussing
reading assignments. I think that's enough in a classroom. Sometines things
got highly personal. I considered my responsibility to be one of extending
thought via students and/or my own comments and questons. In 1:1
conferences, sometimes more personal stuff comes out, e.g., a death in the
family, rape, custody battle. Sometimes I could help (empathize, extend
paper deadlines,things like that) but there are problems a professor is not
in a position to deal with. A very hard one for me was an exam paper in
which a student wrote only that she'd been raped repeatedly (totally
unrelated to the exam questions).She didn't respond to my calls to come see
me; I never saw her again, haven't forgiven myself for not having picked up
her distress earlier and offer some help. We're in a human, not simply a
mechanical academic relationship with students.
        beatrice    bkachuck@cuny.campus.mci.net
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>From Amnesty International's publication ACT 77/001/1995
"Human Rights Are Womens Rights"
http://www.amnesty.se/women/242e.htm

Forced gynaecological examinations

     "I was arrested on 31 December with four friends from outside the
     newspaper office...We were taken to  ankaya police station, Ankara. We

     were blindfolded in the car, and our hands bound behind our backs. On
     the way up the stairs our heads were banged against the walls. They
     started to remove my clothes, which I tried to obstruct them from
     doing. Then they started to squeeze my breasts. They threw us to the
     ground and jumped on top of us...

     "They handcuffed our hands behind our back, making comments all the
     time and poking and pawing us...[When] I struggled against their
     handling, they said: `Do you enjoy that? So you like a bit of
     roughness', and other sexual remarks. Two of them came over to us, and

     touched our hips and legs. Another policeman tried to force his foot
     into my mouth. One of them urinated on me. We were generally sexually
     molested. They wanted to know if I was pregnant, how many people had I

     slept with. They said they would give me a virginity test."

     Ferda Mazmuno_lu, journalist on Alinteri (Toil) magazine, 1994.

     In recent years Turkish police have increasingly used virginity tests
     as a means of degrading and humiliating women.

     The use of virginity testing in Turkey as a means of criminalizing,
     threatening and abusing women was recently documented in a report from

     Human Rights Watch (HRW). (HRW/Women's Rights Project, June 1994, Vol.

     6, No. 7)

     Two groups of women are particularly vulnerable to forced virginity
     testing: women suspected of prostitution, and women detained for
     political reasons. In June 1992 the head of the Security Department in

     Adana told the press that female political detainees, "militant
     girls", were being subjected to virginity exams to avoid future
     accusations of police abuse during interrogations.(Cumhuriyet, 24 June

     1992). An attorney in Diyarbakr, capital city of south-eastern Turkey,

     provided HRW with documentation on several cases in which women
     detained as members of the Kurdish armed opposition group PKK were
     taken for forced virginity tests by state forensic medical doctors. In

     October 1993 ^?zg^?r G^?ndem, a newspaper which comprehensively covered
     events in southeastern Turkey and suffered state persecution as a
     result, reported that a translator working for a German delegation on
     a fact finding mission in the region had been detained and subjected
     to a virginity test.

     The threat of a virginity test is also used to intimidate. In August
     1992 a 43-year-old Kurdish woman and her 19-year-old daughter were
     arrested while they were attending a funeral in Diyarbakir. They were
     tortured and interrogated about how they knew the man who had been
     buried. According to the daughter, "They constantly threatened to take

     me for virginity control and then to rape me when and if they found I
     wasn't a virgin".

     Forced virginity examinations appear to have been used as a means of
     punishment. An attorney representing prisoners in Nevsehir Prison, who

     also worked with the Istanbul Human Rights Association, told HRW that
     in April 1993 eight women prisoners were discovered attempting to dig
     a tunnel with male prisoners. "The prison director ordered the women
     to be taken for virginity control exams. The women resisted, but were
     examined nonetheless. The women called the press to protest their
     treatment. According to the attorney, despite calls for action from
     these women and the Human Rights Association, no investigation into
     the women's allegations has been initiated".

     The social stigma attached to being forcibly tested for virginity is
     so great that many women do not report such tests, making it difficult

     to estimate what numbers are involved.

     Forced gynaecological examinations designed to degrade and humiliate
     women have also been reported in China. Eighteen women members of the
     Jesus Family arrested in Duoyigou, Shandong province, in 1992, are
     among many women arrested during China's crack-down on independent
     religious groups in recent years. Several of these women are now
     serving sentences of up to three years' "re-education through labour",

     an administrative punishment which is imposed without charge or trial.

     The Jesus Family is a community of Chinese Christians in Shandong
     province which is not recognized by the government-sanctioned
     Three-Self Patriotic Movement of Protestant Churches of China. In
     mid-1992 public security officers raided the Duoyigou community of the

     Jesus Family, destroying their buildings and arresting 37 people.
     According to testimony received by Amnesty International, while in
     police custody women members of the Jesus Family were forced to have
     gynaecological examinations in the presence of the male warden of the
     county detention centre:

     "[He] said if we did not take off our underwear ourselves, he would
     order two male staff members to take off our underwear for us. Since
     most of us women were unmarried and young, we all felt furious and we
     cried with rage...the head of the county Public Security Bureau
     humiliated us further by saying that if any of us were found pregnant,

     we would be sent to the hospital and forced to have an abortion."


--
Marsha Alley
Future student Womens Studies Program
UC Irvine, CA
TBear@net999.com
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Thomas Gramstad asked for references to research that has found higher self-
esteem in African American young women than in whites.  Here's one:

Freiberg, P. (1991).  Self-esteem gender gap widens in adolescence.  _APA
Monitor_,  22(4), 29.

Kathleen Preston
Humboldt State University
KathKnight@aol.com
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Those who have read "Vision 2000" will be able to offer informed comments on
Daphne Patai's essay in the _Chronicle of Higher Ed._  I haven't seen the
original document, so my reaction is only to Patai's piece.

Regardless of the merits or drawbacks of "Vision 2000," Patai's slanted
language and   "innocent" questions really push my buttons.  "Relentless
feminist propaganda has confused the evidence" is followed by a reference to
interviews in a local newspaper, as if that clears up the confusion.  There
are answers aplenty in the research literature to such questions as "Are rape
and sexual assault indeed routine occurences at universities?" and "Might
women not be underrepresented in engineering...because of their own
preferences?" but what's the point of marshalling citations, when Patai surely
knows them?

Her portrayal of women's studies programs as "ghettoized" may be accurate in
some cases, and in some ways, but it's my impression that most programs have
tried valiantly to build a presence in existing departments -- the extent to
which this has failed is not due to decisions by women's studies faculties,
but rather the resistance of existing departments to hire and support women
and their perspectives.  (The fact that most women's studies curricula are
"programs" rather than departments suggests their status.)  In any case,
again, what's the point?

I look forward to learning about "Vision 2000" from other, less biased,
sources.

Kathleen Preston
Humboldt State University
KathKnight@aol.com
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From:         Naomi Standen <nstanden@STAFF.UWSUPER.EDU>
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I'm new on the list and new to teaching Women's Studies, but I thought that
list members might be interested in a recent experience, and hope that they
might care to comment, particularly on how my results might be used in the
classroom.

I made use of the leadership/masculinity and femininity correlation
exercise provided by another list member. I handed it out in my
introductory class, and I've just been processing the results. I found them
rather surprising, but mostly in what I'm so far reading as a positive way.

The results were (the columns are going to come out horrible in e-mail, but
I  hope it still makes sense):

Top 9 leadership characteristics (RH column) compared with 'masculine'
traits (LH column) and 'feminine' traits (middle column)

confident    11    2    16
organised    3    10    16
a planner    3    10    14
achiever    7    6    13
aggressive    11    2    13
dynamic    6    7    12
intuitive        13    11
powerful    10    3    11
strong    10    3    11


Bottom 9 leadership characteristics (RH column) compared with 'masculine'
traits (LH column) and 'feminine' traits (middle column)

passive    1    12    0
loving        13    1
nurturant        13    1
devious    8    5    2
manipulative    7    6    2
deferential        13    4
rule-oriented    9    4    5
caring        13    7
relationship-oriented        13    7


My rather cursory analysis suggests that:

4 of the top 9 are regarded as strongly masculine characteristics.
3  of the top 9 are regarded as strongly feminine characteristics,
including two of the top 3.
The other two are fairly evenly split.

BUT 6 of the bottom 9 are regarded very strongly feminine characteristics,
although a couple of these are also regarded as being definitely (though
not overwhelmingly) characteristics of leaders.

So my students regard leadership as requiring a mixture of feminine and
masculine characteristics, although they also correlate many classically
feminine characteristics with those not required of leaders.

They seem to be saying that women can be leaders alongside men, but that a
lot of women won't have leadership characteristics.

I also wouldn't have expected to find organisation and planning to be so
strongly regarded as feminine characteristics, and I wouldn't have expected
to find intuition on the list of leadership qualities. But perhaps that's
me.

I have to say this is not what I was expecting, but it may also very
encouraging. The class is mostly fairly traditional students - maybe 3-4
older women. There is also a handful of men in the class. A lot of them are
taking the class mostly to fulfill a Gen Ed requirement, so they are hardly
committed to the feminist cause. Are younger people these days becoming
imbued with the ideas promoting the 'feminine' managerial style? Can we see
some (small) signs of progress here?

Comments welcomed, especially on how to present these results to the class
(this afternoon).

(For those interested, the other two results were:
analytical    5    8    8
sensitive    1    12    8)


--
Naomi Standen
Department of History, Politics and Society
University of Wisconsin-Superior
nstanden@staff.uwsuper.edu
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From:         Loraine Hutchins <lhutchins@TUI.EDU>
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Subject:      queerfeministsacredsex

Dear Folks,
    I know you don't all live in Wash., DC but I'm launching a great new
seminar series (free to the public) on queer feminist sacred sexualities
next week. It feels newsworthy enough to announce here.
    If you want to know more about it or my research which it's based on, I'd
love to discuss it, on list or off. (I subscribe only to the digest and
read it when I can.)
    I'm not attaching the flyer but it can be had by request.
thanks
Loraine Hutchins
Program Associate, Center for Women, Union Institute
and co-editor, Bi Any Other Name: Bisexual People Speak Out
(Alyson Publications, 1991, just reprinted w/this horrid red/black cover
:-( ... oh well...)
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From:         Barbara Taylor <bt24761@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU>
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My class just did the leadership/masculine/feminine exercise, also,and like
Maomi's class saw a mixture of M/F traits as important in leaders.  The top
ten traits were:

    confident  (13)
    organized  (13)
    a planner  (12)
    achiever   (10)
    aggressive (9)
    dynamic    (9)
    powerful   (9)
    strong     (9)
    intuitive  (8)
    sensitive  (8)

They saw confident as primarily male, both organized and a planner as
primarily female, achiever and aggressive as mainly male, dynamic about
evenly split, powerful and strong primarily male, and sensitive as
primarily female.  Intuitive was also split - 6M, 9F.  I have a significant
number of business majors in the class, and wonder if they're not
reflecting, in part, the new orthodoxy that business leaders have to be, to
some degree, people-focused.

At 06:40 AM 2/4/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I'm new on the list and new to teaching Women's Studies, but I thought that
>list members might be interested in a recent experience, and hope that they
>might care to comment, particularly on how my results might be used in the
>classroom.
>
>I made use of the leadership/masculinity and femininity correlation
>exercise provided by another list member. I handed it out in my
>introductory class, and I've just been processing the results. I found them
>rather surprising, but mostly in what I'm so far reading as a positive way.
>
>The results were (the columns are going to come out horrible in e-mail, but
>I  hope it still makes sense):
>
>Top 9 leadership characteristics (RH column) compared with 'masculine'
>traits (LH column) and 'feminine' traits (middle column)
>
>confident    11    2    16
>organised    3    10    16
>a planner    3    10    14
>achiever    7    6    13
>aggressive    11    2    13
>dynamic    6    7    12
>intuitive        13    11
>powerful    10    3    11
>strong    10    3    11
>
>
>Bottom 9 leadership characteristics (RH column) compared with 'masculine'
>traits (LH column) and 'feminine' traits (middle column)
>
>passive    1    12    0
>loving        13    1
>nurturant        13    1
>devious    8    5    2
>manipulative    7    6    2
>deferential        13    4
>rule-oriented    9    4    5
>caring        13    7
>relationship-oriented        13    7
>
>
>My rather cursory analysis suggests that:
>
>4 of the top 9 are regarded as strongly masculine characteristics.
>3  of the top 9 are regarded as strongly feminine characteristics,
>including two of the top 3.
>The other two are fairly evenly split.
>
>BUT 6 of the bottom 9 are regarded very strongly feminine characteristics,
>although a couple of these are also regarded as being definitely (though
>not overwhelmingly) characteristics of leaders.
>
>So my students regard leadership as requiring a mixture of feminine and
>masculine characteristics, although they also correlate many classically
>feminine characteristics with those not required of leaders.
>
>They seem to be saying that women can be leaders alongside men, but that a
>lot of women won't have leadership characteristics.
>
>I also wouldn't have expected to find organisation and planning to be so
>strongly regarded as feminine characteristics, and I wouldn't have expected
>to find intuition on the list of leadership qualities. But perhaps that's
>me.
>
>I have to say this is not what I was expecting, but it may also very
>encouraging. The class is mostly fairly traditional students - maybe 3-4
>older women. There is also a handful of men in the class. A lot of them are
>taking the class mostly to fulfill a Gen Ed requirement, so they are hardly
>committed to the feminist cause. Are younger people these days becoming
>imbued with the ideas promoting the 'feminine' managerial style? Can we see
>some (small) signs of progress here?
>
>Comments welcomed, especially on how to present these results to the class
>(this afternoon).
>
>(For those interested, the other two results were:
>analytical    5    8    8
>sensitive    1    12    8)
>
>
>--
>Naomi Standen
>Department of History, Politics and Society
>University of Wisconsin-Superior
>nstanden@staff.uwsuper.edu
>


Barbara G. Taylor    bt24761@uafsysb.uark.edu
Associate Vice Chancellor for Human Resources
University of Arkansas, 222 Administration Building
Fayetteville, AR  72701
(501) 575-2158  (501) 575-6971 FAX
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Date:         Wed, 4 Feb 1998 12:02:31 -0500
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From:         Sibelan Forrester <sforres1@SWARTHMORE.EDU>
Subject:      1998 Heldt Prize Announcement
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1998 Heldt Prizes:  Request for Nominations

THE ASSOCIATION FOR WOMEN IN SLAVIC STUDIES (AWSS) will award the 1998
Heldt Prizes during its meeting at the AAASS National Convention in
September.  Nominations may be made in the following categories:

        1.  Best book in Slavic/Eastern European/Eurasian women's studies

        2.  Best book by a woman in any area of Slavic/Eastern
European/Eurasian studies

        3.  Best article in Slavic/Eastern European/Eurasian women's studies

You may nominate material in more than one category, and you may nominate
more than one item within a category.  Books or articles published from May
31, 1997 to May 31, 1998 are eligible for consideration, unless submitted
in previous Heldt Prize competitions.  PLEASE NOTE that because AAASS will
meet in September this year the deadline is considerably earlier than in
the past:  nominations are due no later than JUNE 1, 1998.  To nominate a
book or an article in any category, please send or request that the
publisher send one copy to each member of the prize committee:

Professor Jane Costlow
Department of Foreign Languages
Bates College
Lewiston, ME  04240

Professor Susanne Fusso
Dept. of Russian Language and Literature
Wesleyan University
Middletown, CT  06459

Professor Christine Ruane
Department of History
University of Tulsa
Tulsa, OK   74104-3189

Professor Denise Youngblood
Department of History
University of Vermont
Burlington, VT  05405


The Heldt Translation Prize Committee will award a separate prize for the
Best Translation in Slavic/East European/Eurasian Women's Studies.  To
nominate an English-language or bilingual translation, scholarly or
literary, published between May 31, 1997 and May 31, 1998, please send or
ask the publisher to send one copy to each committee member, with one
additional copy to Professor Ruane, Chair of the Prize Committee, no later
than JUNE 1, 1998:

Justyna Beinek
Slavic Department
Harvard University
Barker Center
12 Quincy Street
Cambridge, MA  02138

Professor Rachel May
1659  Juliet Ave.
St. Paul, MN  55105

Professor Christine Ruane
Department of History
University of Tulsa
Tulsa, OK  74104-3189

If you have questions, please contact Professor Christine Ruane, Heldt
Prize Committee Chair, at the above address or else by e-mail at
<RUANECHR@centum.utulsa.edu>.  Further information about the prize
competition and about AWSS is available on the organization's web page at
<http://ash.swarthmore.edu/slavic/awss/>.


Thank you for your attention, and please pass this announcement on to
anyone who might be interested!


Sibelan Forrester, AWSS Vice President
Modern Languages and Literatures
Swarthmore College
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Date:         Wed, 4 Feb 1998 08:57:49 -0500
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Hi,

I was wondering if  Jaime, who emailed the following, could drop me your
email address. Your email address wasn't included with the message and I
found the posting vaIuable. teach a similar course and I'm interested in
sharing resources and syllabi.

Jaime wrote:
"In my class on the social history of women's activism, I ask students to
research the story of a woman in their family and see how her life
confronts or accommodates sexism (and/or racism, classism, etc.)."

Kimberly Springer
PhD Candidate
Institute for Women's Studies
Emory University
kspring@emory.edu
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From:         Kathy Miriam <kmiriam@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Subject:      audre lorde citations
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Hi,
I'm looking for citations for two different lines from Audre Lorde. One
is a line that has the phrase "house of difference" in it, something
about the house of difference where we all dwell, from an essay. the
other is a poem with the line (if i'm remembering it accurately), "as if
all our wants were holy...".

thanks in advance,

Kathy Miriam
kmiriam@cats.ucsc.edu
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Date:         Wed, 4 Feb 1998 09:59:32 -0800
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From:         Ellen Cronan Rose <ecrose@NEVADA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Patai on Vision 2000
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Subscribers to WMST-L may want to attend a session at this year's NWSA
conference at which members of the New England council of Land-Grant
University Women will discuss the ways they are using Vision 2000 to
effect change in their institutions.  The session has been tentatively
scheduled for Sunday, June 14, from 9-10:15.

For information about registering for the conference, contact Loretta
Younger at the NWSA national office (nwsa@umail.umd.edu).

Ellen Cronan Rose, Director, Women's Studies Program, UNLV
4505 Maryland Parkway, Las Vegas, NV  89154-5055
PHONE (702) 895-0838, FAX (702) 895-0850
ecrose@nevada.edu

On Wed, 4 Feb 1998, Kathleen Preston wrote:

> Those who have read "Vision 2000" will be able to offer informed comments on
> Daphne Patai's essay in the _Chronicle of Higher Ed._  I haven't seen the
> original document, so my reaction is only to Patai's piece.
>
> Regardless of the merits or drawbacks of "Vision 2000," Patai's slanted
> language and   "innocent" questions really push my buttons.  "Relentless
> feminist propaganda has confused the evidence" is followed by a reference to
> interviews in a local newspaper, as if that clears up the confusion.  There
> are answers aplenty in the research literature to such questions as "Are rape
> and sexual assault indeed routine occurences at universities?" and "Might
> women not be underrepresented in engineering...because of their own
> preferences?" but what's the point of marshalling citations, when Patai surely
> knows them?
>
> Her portrayal of women's studies programs as "ghettoized" may be accurate in
> some cases, and in some ways, but it's my impression that most programs have
> tried valiantly to build a presence in existing departments -- the extent to
> which this has failed is not due to decisions by women's studies faculties,
> but rather the resistance of existing departments to hire and support women
> and their perspectives.  (The fact that most women's studies curricula are
> "programs" rather than departments suggests their status.)  In any case,
> again, what's the point?
>
> I look forward to learning about "Vision 2000" from other, less biased,
> sources.
>
> Kathleen Preston
> Humboldt State University
> KathKnight@aol.com
>
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From:         Martha Charlene Ball <wsimcb@PANTHER.GSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: audre lorde citations
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Kathy,
The line "It was a while before we came to realize that our place was the
very house of difference rather than the security of any one particular
difference" comes from Zami:  A New Spelling of My Name (Crossing, 1994).
The other quote sounds like the refrain from a poem entitled "Between
Ourselves":  "I do not believe / our wants/ have made all our lies /
holy" (The Black Unicorn, Norton, 1995).
Charlene

On Wed, 4 Feb 1998, Kathy Miriam wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm looking for citations for two different lines from Audre Lorde. One
> is a line that has the phrase "house of difference" in it, something
> about the house of difference where we all dwell, from an essay. the
> other is a poem with the line (if i'm remembering it accurately), "as if
> all our wants were holy...".
>
> thanks in advance,
>
> Kathy Miriam
> kmiriam@cats.ucsc.edu
>


M. Charlene Ball, Administrative Coordinator
Women's Studies Institute
Georgia State University
Atlanta, Georgia
404/651-4633
wsimcb@panther.gsu.edu
http://www.gsu.edu/womenpower

I dwell in Possibility --
A fairer House than Prose --
            (Emily Dickinson)
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From:         Jean Chambers <jchambe1@OSWEGO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: virginity testing
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See "The Human Rights Watch Global Report on Women's Human Rights" a
book published by the Human Rights Watch organization, copyright
August 1995. One address for the organization is 485 Fifth Avenue,
New York, NY 10017-6104 (as listed in the flyleaf of the book).
There is a whole subchapter entitled "Forced Virginity Exams in
Turkey," which runs 23 pages.

On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Tammie Davis wrote:

> I was reading an article in the paper about virginity testing in Turkey.
> Several girls tried to kill themselves rather than go through with the
> testing. One girl succeeded in killing herself and her father had the test
> performed on her dead body.  Has anyone heard of this before?  Is there any
> literature on this? What actually is performed to test for virginity? Any
> information would be appreciated. thank you
> tammie
> justicetoo@aol.com
>
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From:         Laura Grindstaff <LGrindstaff@POBOX.ASC.UPENN.EDU>
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>X-Sender: egalewski@pobox.asc.upenn.edu
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>To: lgrindstaff@POBOX.ASC.UPENN.EDU
>From: Liz Galewski <egalewski@pobox.asc.upenn.edu>
>Subject: pls forward
>
>>Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:13:13 -0700
>>To: Recipient List Suppressed:;
>>From: "Women, Gender, & Sexuality" <wgs@socrates.berkeley.edu>
>>Subject: pls forward
>>
>>Could you please circulate this announcement as widely as you can.
>>
>>CONFERENCE
>>
>>The Seventh Annual Boundaries in Question Conference will be held this year
>on Friday and Saturday, March 6th and 7th in the Lipman Room in Barrows Hall
>at the UC Berkeley Campus.
>>
>>The Boundaries in Question Conference is a yearly symposium spotlighting
>graduate student work in feminist research, theory,  and practice.  This
>year's theme, Designing Women, suggests that women are simultaneously
>constructed by and reconstructing their spaces, places, images and
>identities.  The goal of this conference is to create an international
>community of students which fosters dialogue across disciplines and
>professional schools.
>>
>>This year's keynote speaker will be Professor Barbara Christian of
>African-American Studies.
>>
>>Friday 9:00 am to 5:30 pm  (Reception to follow)
>>Saturday 9:00 am to 5:30 pm
>>
>>Panels will include:
>>
>>Challenging Hegemonic Discourse Of Sexuality
>>Contemporary Female Icons
>>The Commodification Of Gender
>>Bodies, Sexuality, And Fashion
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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 04:28:19 -0500
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From:         Kelley Crouse <kcwalker@SYR.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Leadership/masculinity and feminity exercise
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Hi,
I originally forwarded that exercise to the list, though someone else came
up with it as I noted.  I got very nearly the same results.  Though not
quite as "feminine" in terms of leadership and I think this is because I
really played it up and made the exercise appear as if it were a survey for
an entirely different purpose, that it was somehow not course related.  As
for intuition, I don't think they know what it means exactly.  Though, in
some sense I can see where popular discourses about management would
suggest that leadership is somehow these mysterious capacity that is
somehow intuitive.  As for see organization and planning, I can see why
they'd think that women are better at those things than men given the era
they've grown up in.  Many of the mothers probably did have to be
organized, planners--I know I do in order to balance my full plate!

Kelley Crouse
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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 06:50:00 -0500
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From:         Kelley Crouse <kcwalker@SYR.EDU>
Subject:      teaching 'class'?
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After reading student journals and dealing with gender and class yesterday
I'm wondering how to go about teaching this topic to very privileged
students. I thought that I'd approached it fairly well using the best of
what limited accessible material there is out there--and there is a dearth
of such material.

Their response--and I expected this--was to feel guilty or ashamed of
having class privilege.  I was hoping to avoid this for this is not how I'd
like to see them respond.  I'm trying to get them to see class as a social
structural issue, but they seem unable to move beyond class as an
identity/cultural issue.  That is, for them, it's all about changing
attitudes and then class oppression will go away.  And when they do start
to think about how this isn't the real problem, they start to feel guilty
and think to themselves:  "If I deal with class oppression/privilige then
I'll have to give up my nice clothes, my car, my education"  This is not
what I want them to think of course.

 Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?  I should add that I am from
a working class background and largely still am living with and among
working class people.  And, as an adjunct, I continue to make a working
class wage.  I don't want to personalize the whole topic though, since that
seems to put me in the position of being a shining example of class
mobility.  And, of course, once I 'come out' they feel personally
threatened--especially since many went on yesterday about how they felt
that, as middle and upper middle class people, they were oppressed by the
stereotypes others held of them as "rich bitches" and "snobs" etc.

Thanks,
Kelley
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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:13:17 -0500
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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 10:24:00 -0500
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From:         Marc Sacks <msacks@WORLD.STD.COM>
Subject:      Source of quotation
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I would appreciate it if anyone could tell me the source of the quotation,
"We must invent a history adequate to our needs."  I once saw it on a
feminist poster, but on another occasion heard it attributed to W.E.B.
DuBois referring to black people.  Does anyone on this list know where
this came from, and could you possibly describe the context of the
original?  Thanks very much.

Marc Sacks
msacks@world.std.com
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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 14:44:53 EST
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From:         Florence Howe <FLORENCH@AOL.COM>
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Dear Kelley:  I don't have any simple answers, but there was a wonderful
session at MLA this past December, chaired by Janet Zandy, who is now the
editor of WOMEN'S STUDIES QUARTERLY.  She has edited two books for Rutgers on
the subject: CALLING HOME and LIBERATING MEMORY.  And she edited an edition of
WOMEN'S STUDIES QUARTERLY aimed at those with questions about how to teach
about class.  It's the Spring/Summer 1995 issue, still available from The
Feminist Press (phone order: 212-650-8966; fax: 540-8893).  Also, three young
people are editing a new issue of WSQ on working class studies which will be
out in May 1998.
      What I did when I taught was to ask people to go back a generation or
two and consider those lives; also, from the Freedom School movement, to think
about the questions: what do I have in my life that I like very much and would
never part with; and what do I have in my life that I don't like and would
like to see gone.  Certainly, guilt is useless in teaching situations as it is
in real life, but some of us are taught that from our early childhood, even if
we were working class!!  Cheers, Florence Howe  (florench@aol.com)
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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 15:43:54 -0500
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From:         Barbara Peters <BPeters@SOUTHAMPTON.LIUNET.EDU>
Organization: Southampton College of L.I.U.
Subject:      Re: teaching 'class'?
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Hello,

    I do want to point out that a former discussion about class and
academics which took place about 6 years ago resulted in the forming
of an e-mail discussion group for those of us from working-class
issues.  We will be having our thrid face-to-face working-class
acadmeics conference in June in Ohio.

To subscribe send this message:

subscribe working-class-list [your name without the brackets]

to:

majordomo@list.acs.uwosh.edu

Join us.  We often discuss these exact kinds of issues.

Peace,
Barbara
"O wad some power the giftie gie us-
 to see oursels as others see us!"  . . . Robert Burns TO A LOUSE

Barbara J. Peters, Assistant Professor
Social Sciences Division
Long Island University - Southampton
239 Montauk Highway
Southampton, NY 11968
(516) 287-8236
FAX: (516) 287-8203
e-mail bpeters@southampton.liunet.edu
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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:02:12 -0500
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From:         Ruby Rohrlich <rohrlich@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: teaching 'class'?
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"Going back a generation or two" when teaching seems like a very good
idea, Florence Howe.  It amazes me when people look at the dates an
article or book was written or published to discover its contents, and if
it was dated in 70s they say it is "dated."   They sure must miss a hell
of a lot of good material using dates as a criterion of worth.  Ruby
Rohrlich
rohrlich@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu
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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:29:02 -0500
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From:         "Carolyn I. Wright" <ciwright@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU>
Subject:      Re: teaching 'class'?
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I agree with Ruby. Whatever happened to studying the feminist classics?
Carolyn Wright
ciwright@mailbox.syr.edu
On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Ruby Rohrlich wrote:

> "Going back a generation or two" when teaching seems like a very good
> idea, Florence Howe.  It amazes me when people look at the dates an
> article or book was written or published to discover its contents, and if
> it was dated in 70s they say it is "dated."   They sure must miss a hell
> of a lot of good material using dates as a criterion of worth.  Ruby
> Rohrlich
> rohrlich@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu
>
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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 19:04:01 -0500
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From:         beatricekachuck <bkachuck@CUNY.CAMPUS.MCI.NET>
Subject:      vision 2000 and critics
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    I appreciate the posting of the entire Vision 2000 document and Leo's and
Patai's criticisms.
    Vision 2000 seems to me an academic document in the liberal tradition of,
to quote Patai, "tolerance and intellectual openness." It lays out problems
and proposes solutions. The proposals are consistent with principles and
practices in universities and other agencies.
    Daphne's response to Vision, published in the Chronicle of Higher
Education 1/23/98, segues from rejection of it to a general attack on
Women's Studies. This is an open letter to Daphne.
    Daphne, my reply to your article comes in the spirit of the intellectual
openness you apparently prize. In that spirit, I believe you ought to
respond. I welcome others who wish to join the discussion, whatever their
perspective.
    I'll start with your attack on WS. You say classes are conducted as
therapy sessions. What do you mean by 'therapy'? Your definiition need not
be technical, in terms I would expect from one of my clinical colleagues in
psychology. But therapy has specific meanings. Which do you have in mind?
    I should tell you that in the more than a decade of direct involvement in
WS, visiting classes, discussion with WS students and faculty, reading
research and so on, I have never encountered anything like a 'therapy' class.
    You also claim WS faculty champion qualitative over quantitative research
methods. But those methodologies (which you probably meant, rather than the
narrower term, 'methods') have been championed for nearly 100 years, long
before WS was conceptualized, for a variety of reasons. Why do you object
to anyone deeming those methodologies more congenial to women than
quantitative? If you do, I think you have an intellectual obligation to
explain either why the methodologies are not as represented in Visions.
Actually, in literature on research published by WS faculty, and in
feminists' research reports themselves both qualitative and quantitative
approaches are found.
    Your attack on WS for 'policing insensitive language' should also be
explained. What constitutes 'policing'?  Pointing out language that
deprecates people and suggesting alternatives? Surely you must be aware
that efforts in this direction are widespread. There have been objections
to referring to a woman as a 'cunt' as there have been objections to
calling African Americans 'coons', Italians 'wops', Jews 'kikes' or using
the phrase 'Jew you down' and other putdowns of people's identity. People
now have 'Downs syndrome' instead of being 'Mongolian idiots'. Textbooks no
longer refer to 'yellow hordes' coming to the US when they discuss
immigration, etc.
    You begin your article warning New England universities of an impending
'coup' and follow it up with your opinion that Vision is a 'stunningly
imperialist move to put in place a questionable feminist agenda'. But
nowhere in Visions is there anything like takeover. Where evaluations are
proposed, they are obviously to be done by the same sorts of people who
usually do them; e.g., peer review and supervisors are mentioned.
    At one point, Visions does suggest that Women's Centers be consulted in
senior institutional leaders' efforts to 'encourage, support and maintain
new roles for women'. Hardly a coup. Reliance on consultations with people
who have special expertise in a field are common all over. Why is this
Vision recommendation a problem for you? But your larger objection is to
the establishment of Women's Centers - and you give no reasons. Why do you
oppose them?
    On consultation, I was disappointed that Visions didn't ask for Women's
Studies faculty to be involved in the proposed dept. seminars on gender
inclusion. Scholars with expertise in a topic should be made available to
colleagues.
    You may be interested to know that when I was a Fulbright Women's Studies
Scholar in India in 1994-95, in addition to lectures in other sites, I was
invited to discuss gender in seminars for college teachers. Although there
is substantial research on women in India, teaching about gender is newer
than in the US; a specialist was available and was called in.
    Including gender in courses means, as a practical matter, updating most
courses. In discussions with colleagues, reading extensively, tho more in
social sciences than the physical and in the humanities, and more
specifically in reviewing course and program proposals as a member of
Brooklyn College's graduate curriculum committe, I have been stunned to
find that for the most part women are excluded, marginalized or considered
in stereotypical ways. The gendering of social structures and perception of
gender in men who hold particular positions are not addressed. That's out
of date.
    On sexual harassment, there is ample research to warrant not only clear
expression of administrators that it will not be tolerated, but also
training sessions for all members in a university community. The federal
EEOC recommends clear pointers to intolerance. In CUNY alone I found the
extent of sexual harassment so prevalent and the damage done so severe, I
organized a campaign to get a stronger policy. (We got some of what we
wanted). I don't know how routine training sessions are in corporations,
but they seem to be fairly common. A reason, of course, is that they don't
want to be sued. And the Supreme Court, I believe, will this year follow up
its decision of a few years ago that a complainant in a school may claim
monetary damages in a case that tests just who may be sued.
    I wish Visions had pointed out the conjunction of sexual harassment with
students' race/ethnic minority status, as the New York State Task Force does.
    I also wish Visions had included a president's report on the status of
women in each university to the university community, not only to boards
and state legislatures. I think students, staff, faculty and administrators
are entitled to know what's going on their campuses.
    Your general claim that women are doing fine in academia is simply wrong.
Your evidence is not credible. You make glossy statements and omit
problems, some of which I alluded to above. Data on faculty ranks analyzed
by sex show clearly that the higher the rank the maler and paler the
faculty. In CUNY the data led the Women's Coalition to sue; we collected
backup data and we won. As to your suggestion that women may not be in
engineering because of preferences. That's a tired response. The same sort
of thing was said about the scarcity or absence of women in institutions of
higher education. The picture began to change, particularly in professional
and graduate schools, when the federal govt. in 1972's Title IX said it
would withhold funds if they were found to discriminate on the basis of
sex. No, sorry to say, some people don't 'do the right thing', as you put
it, unless they must.
    Visions is an excellent document for other to build from.
    Enough. This has been a very long message.
        beatrice    bkachuck@cuny.campus.mci.net
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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:59:53 -0600
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From:         Naomi Standen <nstanden@STAFF.UWSUPER.EDU>
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Chinese grammar has no concept of gendering, whether for people or objects.
Relatively recently, a written form of the word for s/he/it was devised so
you could indicate the sex of a person, but this is not apparent in the
spoken language.

This written form, it could be argued, makes women more visible as women,
but the ideograph also contains some subtle implications that, it could
also be argued, simply reinforce the idea of woman as not-man: of men as
human beings and women as something 'other'.

And yes, Chinese society is just as sexist as the next ....


--
Naomi Standen
Department of History, Politics and Society
University of Wisconsin-Superior
nstanden@staff.uwsuper.edu
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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:53:17 PST
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From:         Johanna Brenner <johanna@CH2.CH.PDX.EDU>
Organization: Portland State University
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I mailed this message some weeks ago and have heard no response.
Perhaps those of you in other programs assumed that others would
reply....or you're just swamped.  I would appreciate even a short
message giving the bare bones of how your WS Program involves tenured
(or tenure-track) faculty in teaching core courses and on
committees/governance for the program.


Our WS program is searching for ways to more fully involve faculty
with tenured positions in other departments in WS program governance
and in teaching "core" WS courses (courses that are not cross-listed
with other departments).  We'd appreciate ideas from other WS
programs.  Some possibilities we are considering: a rotating
"visiting scholar" position for one year or part of a year that would
be filled by faculty from other programs; establishing a "core"
faculty group who would be permanently assigned one course per year
in WS and compensating their departments for their time.
Additionally how, if at all, do faculty get "credit" for
participating in committees for WS programs if they are members of
other units?  Does it help to create a "standing committee" that the
Dean appoints?  How do you get cooperation from Dept. Chairs to
recognize this service in P&T decisions?

Johanna Brenner, Coordinator
WS Program at Portland State University

brennerj@pdx.edu
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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 22:16:18 -0500
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From:         "Donna M. Hughes" <dhughes@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Speaker on women and substance abuse
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The Women's Studies Program at the University of Rhode Island would like to
invite someone to speak on women and substance abuse for their annual Women
and Health lecture.

I would appreciate suggestions for possible speakers.
Thank you. Please reply privately to:
Donna Hughes   dhughes@uriacc.uri.edu
or
Mary Ellen Reilly   mereilly@uriacc.uri.edu

Thanks,
Donna M. Hughes
Carlson Chair, Women's Studies
University of Rhode Island
dhughes@uriacc.uri.edu
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Date:         Fri, 6 Feb 1998 14:40:05 +1100
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From:         Gabrielle Meagher <gabriell@ECON.USYD.EDU.AU>
Subject:      "stages" of (feminist) research
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Dear all,

I am wondering if an analysis of the evolution of feminist research exists
that would help me to think through a question in my current research on
waged domestic labour.

It seems to me that a lot of the first writings on the subject were
oriented towards 'giving voice' to 'marginalised' women - from
African-american, Japanese-american and West-Indian women, as well as
Chicanas. This orientation shapes the methods and theoretical arguments of
in these writings in particular ways (interviewing only in selected
racial-ethnic groups, focussing on the negative cases and so on, to
highlight both the oppression and resourcefulness of these women).

However, it seems to me that a 'broader' analysis is now necessary, at the
simplest level, to, say, look at both good and bad experiences/modes of
organisation, comparing the experiences of subordinated racial-ethnic
groups with those (and they do exist) from the dominant ethnic group
(whites) working in the occupation and so on, to look for clues and
strategies as to how this occupation as a whole 'works' in the social
division of labour. (Leslie Salzinger's work does this to some extent).

So 'giving voice' as an agenda needs to be supplemented with a broader (in
this case) comparative analysis, not to remove the political strategy of
bringing injustice to light and supporting strategies for change, but to
further them in a new way.

I hope this is clear (!?), but it seems like a history-of-feminist-
theorising question to me.

Best wishes,

Gabrielle Meagher    email    gabriell@econ.usyd.edu.au
Department of Economics,
University of Sydney,
NSW, 2006, Australia
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Date:         Thu, 5 Feb 1998 22:37:36 -0600
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From:         Lynn Westbrook <L_WESTBROOK@VENUS.TWU.EDU>
Subject:      Please Help: Short Survey
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Dear WMST-L participant,

Please take a few moments to consider this message.  Joan Korenman has
graciously allowed me to post this message to you in the spirit of WMST-L's
support for scholarship, research, and teaching in Women's Studies (WS).

The American Library Association has funded the first national research
effort to focus on the information needs of WS faculty.  Academic
librarians across the country have created services and built collections
for people in this field since the mid-1970s.  This research project is
designed to support those librarians in their effort to better serve
scholars in Women's Studies.


So, I'm asking you to contact me and volunteer to take a twenty-minute survey
via email.  Your participation is, of course, completely voluntary and your
information will be kept completely confidential at all times. You must,
however, understand that the nature of email technology does not allow you to
respond anonymously.  Please be assured that your name, institutional
affiliation, and any other identifying information will be kept completely
confidential.

As a small gesture of appreciation, I will be happy to send you information on
any of the resources and services mentioned in this survey, including the grant
databases.  A summary of the results is also yours for the asking.

Since this study centers on the work of faculty and librarians, if you are not
an academic librarian or a faculty member in a tenure-track position, then
please disregard this posting.  If you are a tenure-track faculty member or a
librarian, then please reply to me directly at ws-survey@twu.edu. (Do NOT reply
to the list or contact Joan.)


If you have any questions, please let me know.  You can reach me at (940)
898-2609 or by email at l_westbrook@twu.edu.  I'll be happy to discuss any
aspect of the work with you.  I hope you'll find the time to contribute to this
study.

Sincerely yours,
Lynn Westbrook, Assistant Professor
School of Library and Information Studies
Texas Woman's University
P. O. Box 425438
Denton, TX 76204-3438
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Date:         Fri, 6 Feb 1998 19:12:51 +0000
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From:         Katsue Akiba Reynolds <katsue@JIU.AC.JP>
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Naomi Standen wrote:
>
> Chinese grammar has no concept of gendering, whether for people or objects.
> Relatively recently, a written form of the word for s/he/it was devised so
> you could indicate the sex of a person, but this is not apparent in the
> spoken language.
>
> This written form, it could be argued, makes women more visible as women,
> but the ideograph also contains some subtle implications that, it could
> also be argued, simply reinforce the idea of woman as not-man: of men as
> human beings and women as something 'other'.
>
> And yes, Chinese society is just as sexist as the next ....
>
> --
> Naomi Standen
> Department of History, Politics and Society
> University of Wisconsin-Superior
> nstanden@staff.uwsuper.edu

I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT CHINESE SOCIETY BEING SEXIST. HOWEVER, THERE ARE
A COUPLE POINTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION.

ACCORDING TO A CHINESE TEACHER, ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES, THE GENDER
DISTINCTION IN THE THIRD PERSON PRONOUNS IN THE WRITING IS NOT A RECENT
INVENTION, BUT IT HAS EXISTED FOR A LONG TIME IN THE HISTORY OF THE
CHINESE LANGUAGE. THE CHINESE CHARACTERS REFLECT AN EXTREMELY SEXIST
IDEOLOGY, PERHAPS PREVALENT AT THE ANCIENT TIME WHEN THE CHARACTERS WERE
FORMED. THERE ARE SEVERAL HUNDREDS OF CHARACTERS  WITH THE RADICAL
MEANING 'FEMALE' , ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THEM  REPRESENTING A NEGATIVE
MEANING OR INDICATING THE LOWER STATUS OF WOMEN IN A SEXUALLY DIVIDED
PATRIARCHAL SOCIETY. INCIDENTALLY, SEVERAL RESEARCHERS HAVE RECENTLY
PRESENTED THE WOMEN'S CHARACTERS--CHINESE CHARACTERS INVENTED BY WOMEN
FOR THE USE OF WOMEN WHEN WOMEN WERE NOT ALLOWED TO WRITE THE REGULAR
(FOR-MALE USE) CHINESE CHARACTERS--A SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT BUT BASICALLY
SIMILAR SITUATION WAS OBSERVED IN JAPAN, TOO, IN THE BEGINNING OF THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THE JAPANESE WRITING: WOMEN DID NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE
STANDARD WRITING SYSTEM.

I TEND TO THINK THAT THE GENDER DISTINCTION THAT EXISTED IN THE CHINESE
WRITING MAY BE GRADUALLY  DISAPPEARING AS THE PATRIARCHY BECOME LESS
SALIENT. THE GENDER DISTINCTION IN THE SECOND PERSON THAT USED TO BE
MADE IN THE WRITING, FOR INSTANCE,  IS NOW OBSOLETE (ACCORDING TO THE
CHINESE INSTRUCTOR MENTIONED ABOVE).

I HAVE SOME CHINESE GRADUATE STUDENTS IN MY SOCIOLINGUUISTICS SEMINAR
THIS YEAR AND WE DISCUSSED SOME SUBTLE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WOMEN'S AND
MEN'S TALK. THERE SEEM TO BE  SOME INTERESTING DIFFERENCES IF WE
CAREFULLY EXAMINE VARIOUS AREAS OF LANGUAGE.
YES, CHINESE DOES HAVE SOME SEXIST ELEMENTS.
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From:         Kathryn Kendall <kendall@DRAMA.UNP.AC.ZA>
Subject:      virginity testing

I write from South Africa, where I am a professor of performance
studies at the University of Natal, in the third year of an extensive
research project on the movement among Zulu women to bring back the
Zulu goddess.  I am a white, formerly working-class citizen of the USA
who came to southern Africa in 1992 and to South Africa in 1995.  Part
of the agenda advocated by Zulu women pioneering this movement is
virginity testing, which the Zulu women believe is a way to celebrate
girls' lives and to confirm to their communities that they are virgins.  As a
white outsider I perceive parts of this procedure as problematic,
particularly in the cases of girls who have been raped.  This is especially
important because South Africa is the rape capitol of the world; i.e.
among those countries who keep records of reported rapes, it is the
country with the most frequent incidences per capita of reported rape.  I
am studying and writing about virginity testing right now, and I hope an
article will appear in an anthology of articles about international girls'
culture edited by Sherrie Inness.  What is most interesting to me is that
the movement is led by women; the checking of virgins is done by
women; the checking is a VISUAL check of the opening of the girls'
vaginas (if the opening is small and tight it is assumed she is a virgin) and
does not include internal examination; and I am assured by all who will
discuss it with me that the checking is voluntary and that only those girls
who know they are virgins and want that fact to be celebrated do
volunteer.  In August of 1997, in a small Zulu town where the festival to
the goddess was mounted, several thousand Zulu girls volunteered to be
checked, were celebrated and cheered and clapped and danced for,
and experienced pride in their youth, their femaleness, and their virginity.
Some of the elder women leading the movement for virginity testing say
that this could give the girls more clout in saying no to boys when they
want to, that it could reduce teenage pregnancy, AIDS, and STDs.  So
my outsider's observation is, at the moment, that virginity testing can be
empowering for some girls in some circumstances.  There is no doubt
that it is desired and advocated by some Zulu women.  I remain troubled
by the fact that most rural Zulu girls do not experience themselves as
powerful enough to say no when they want to; that many are raped by
family members; and that should a girl THINK she would pass the test
and be found to have an 'open' or 'loose' vagina, she would be terribly
embarrassed, perhaps deeply scarred by the experience.  The fact is
that very few of those 'tested' do fail, but a few do, and none of those
will talk with me or with the Zulu women researchers working with me. I
believe what I am seeing is very different from what happens in Turkey
and welcome contextual descriptions and information about virginity
testing in other places in the world.
Kendall
kendall@drama.unp.ac.za
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On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Thomas Gramstad wrote:

> Some time ago I read about a group that had done research on women's
> self-esteem, body type and ethnic background. . . .
>
> So I have two questions: Does anyone have a reference to this
> particular research (online or journal/book references)?
> And does anyone have references to other, similar research?
> (And if so, do they reinforce or contradict the conclusions of the
> above group?)

One article that you may find helpful appeared in _Psychology of Women
Quarterly_ 21 (1997): 173-206, "Objectification Theory: Toward
Understanding Women's lived Experiences and Mental Health Risks." It looks
at how sexual objectification in our culture impacts women's self-concept
& body image, and how this in turn affects a variety of mental health
variables (eating disorders, depression, etc.).  The authors, Barbara
Frederickson and Tomi-Ann Roberts attempt to look at the differential
effects of objectification on women from different ethnic and racial
groups.  From what I remember, their findings and review of the
literature in the field are congruent with the research you cite above.

Another source of information which you may want to consult, and which
other list members may be interested to know about, is the work of Ellen
Fisher Turk, a photographer from New York who uses photography and journal
writing to help women with extremely negative body images "re-see"
themselves.  She generally works with women who have suffered from some
form of emotional or sexual abuse.  She came to our campus to do a
presentation, which included a slide show and tapes of journal excerpts.
She has worked with women from various ethnic and racial groups, and
therefore her work, although only anecdotal, might provide an additional
perspective. Turk can be reached at 212/956-2040, or at Suite 807, 333 W.
57th Street, NY, NY 10019.


Mary Goldschmidt, Ph.D.
Director, The Women's Center
Ramapo College of New Jersey
505 Ramapo Valley Road
Mahwah, NJ 07430-1680
201/529-7462
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GENDER AND WOMEN'S STUDIES FACULTY WORKSHOP IN COSTA RICA


WOMEN IN COSTA RICA:
Perspectives on Women's Cultural, Social, Institutional, and Organizational
Reality in a Central American Society


Instituto Monteverde (IMV)
Monteverde, Costa Rica

Seminar Dates: June 9-19, 1998, a total of 11 days
Application Deadline:  April 24, 1998


RATIONALE

Women's lives take place within the context of their respective societies.
Though international trends and tendencies will influence these societies,
diverse cultures set different limits and open different spaces for
participation.  Thus, internationally agreed- upon principles with regard
to women will see a variety of interpretations and applications.  Moreover,
historic experiences shape societies' responses to today's challenges.  To
open communications with women in a given society, to understand the
framework within which they function, to appreciate the efforts they make
to solve their problems and offer their contributions, in short to assess
women's role in each society, we need to take a careful look at the context
that surrounds their lives.

The Gender/Women's Studies Faculty Workshop will stimulate university
initiatives toward internationalizing curricula.  The workshop will offer
faculty and administrators the opportunity to learn about issues that
affect world events, while they will share insights and experiences with
educational and professional communities overseas.  Thus they will  gain a
new view of their own discipline or mission within a broader international
frame.

The Gender/Women's Studies Faculty Workshop in Costa Rica will concentrate
on the cultural, social, institutional, and organizational framework for
women in Costa Rican society, a framework they are working to reshape, so
as to achieve true equality and better opportunities.  The diverse aspects
of women's daily lives depend on Costa Rica's cultural values, social codes
of behavior, as well as on local, regional, national, and international
governmental or non-governmental institutions and organizations.  During
nine days of presentations, field site visits, and meetings with women
leaders of different entities, in the form of roundtables, panel and group
discussions, participants will gain insight into Costa Rican women's
conditions and share their experiences.  Interaction at the meetings and at
evening receptions allow for contact between participants and guest
speakers.  During their stay in the rural Santa Elena-Monteverde region,
workshop participants will visit with women in the towns of La Cruz, San
Luis, Santa Elena, and Monteverde, observing rural women's role in
environmental protection and sustainable development and their efforts to
develop economic activities and community political participation.  In
addition, participants will have a chance to enjoy the spectacular natural
environment of the region.


HOST INSTITUTION

The host institution for this seminar is the Instituto Monteverde (IMV),
founded in 1986 to harmonize the educational and cultural needs of foreign
students and local residents.  Based in Monteverde (about 35 km north of
the Pan-American Highway in Northwestern Costa Rica and 160 km from the
capital city, San Jos=E9), the Institute works with the University of
California Education Abroad Program, The Evergreen State College, SUNY
Buffalo, the University of Maryland, the Costa Rican Universidad Nacional
Aut=F3noma (UNA), the Council on International Educational Exchange (CIEE),
and the European Association for International Education (EAIE).  It
provides university-accredited semester courses in tropical biology,
agro-ecology, independent field study and fieldwork methodology, Spanish
and Costa Rican culture, architecture, planning, landscape architecture,
and gender/women's studies. The Institute also offers "short" courses for
high schools, college and university students, university professors, and
other specialty groups, as well as the Gender/Women's Studies Faculty
Workshop.   Short course programs focus on the natural history,
conservation ethic, and biodiversity of the tropics, selected issues in
sustainable development, Costa Rican culture and Spanish, and
gender/women's studies.  In addition to its educational activities, the
Institute administers community-based programs.  These include:  the Vida
=46amiliar (Family Life) Program, which focuses on family issues such as the
prevention of domestic violence, literacy, technical training and
assistance, and youth identity;  the Monteverde Ceramics Center, which
operates in cooperation with the women's crafts cooperative CASEM;  a
community Volunteer Center;  and the co-organization of the Monteverde
Music Festival and partnership with the Monteverde Music Program, which
provides music instruction and instruments for schools in the Monteverde
area.


=46ACULTY LEADER

The workshop will be directed by Ilse Abshagen Leitinger, Ph.D., a
comparative sociologist, coordinator of the Gender/Women's Studies courses
of the Instituto Monteverde (IMV).  Dr. Leitinger taught Women's Studies at
the Universidad Nacional (UNA) as a Fulbright lecturer, and has years of
experience with study-abroad programs and students' community-oriented,
women-focused field research in Costa Rica, particularly in the Santa
Elena-Monteverde region.  She taught Sociology for 12 years at Grinnell
College in Iowa.  She is the editor and translator of The Costa Rican
Women's Movement:  A Reader. 1997.  University of Pittsburgh Press.


GUEST LECTURES

Guest lecturers will be affiliated with Costa Rican universities, and with
institutions and organizations that the workshop will explore and visit.


WORKSHOP LOCATION

The workshop will take place in part at various San Jos=E9 locations, in par=
t
at the IMV, and includes field site visits in the Santa Elena-Monteverde
region.  It includes one day for arrival, one for departure,
four-and-a-half days in San Jos=E9, and four-and-a-half days in the Santa
Elena-Monteverde region.  The workshop will be offered in a combination of
English and Spanish (with interpretation as needed), and will be open to 18
participants who may be new to or familiar with the issues addressed.


HOUSING AND MEALS

All housing, breakfasts, and lunches are included in the seminar cost.
There are several non-included dinners and a number of group dinners during
the seminar.  Room occupancy is double.  Single rooms can be requested at
an extra charge, and must be requested in advance.


LECTURES

Listed below are the tentative lectures and site visits for the 1998 Costa
Rica Workshop.  The final program schedule will be similar in content and
theme although specific session topics or schedules may change.  Final
schedules and a complete information packet will be sent to participants
prior to the Workshop.

* Introduction to Costa Rica
* Introduction to Women's Situation in Costa Rica
* Governmental Organizations Working with Women in Costa Rica
* Non-governmental Women's Organizations
* Support Organizations for Specific Women's Problems
* Women at Work: Women in Cooperatives, in Assembly  Industries, and in
   Small Enterprises
* Women's Studies in Costa Rica
* Introduction to the Santa Elena-Monteverde Region and its Community
   Organizations
* Women's Roles in Rural Sustainable Development
* Rural Women's Participation in Environmental Protection
* Women and Political Leadership in Communal  Politics
* The Development of the Women's  Crafts Cooperative Comisi=F3n de Artesanos
   Santa Elena - Monteverde (CASEM)
* The Growth of La Campesinita, the Women's Canning Cooperative in La Cruz
* Women in Rural Life


SITE VISITS AND STUDY TOURS

* Selected Governmental Organizations for Women
* Selected Non-Governmental Organizations for Women and Women's Organization=
s
* Instituto de Estudios de la Mujer (IEM), Universidad Nacional (UNA)
* Museo de Cultura Popular, Santa Luc=EDa de Barva de Heredia
* Skywalk forest canopy bridges (optional)
* Monteverde Cloud Forest Preserve, Hummingbird Gallery, Bajo del Tigre
   Trails, Butterfly Garden, Serpentario (all optional)
* Productores de Monteverde (La F=E1brica de Quesos - Cheese Factory)
* CASEM
* La Campesinita
* Sal=F3n Comunal, San Luis
* Buen Amigo cooperative farm in San Luis (optional)

SEMINAR COSTS

The cost of this seminar is US$ 1,350 per person.  International airfare is
not included in this price.  A $17 exit visa from Costa Rica, which can be
purchased at the airport at the time of departure, is not included in the
seminar costs.  Optional events and related transportation costs are not
included in the seminar fees.  Program costs include all in-country
transportation, all lodging with breakfast and lunch daily, group dinners
as noted in the final program itinerary, guides and entrance fees,
presentations and guest lecturers, and IMV tuition fees.


TO RECEIVE AN APPLICATION FORM, COURSE ITINERARY,
OR FOR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE CONTACT:

Dr. Ilse Leitinger, Coordinator of Gender and Women's Studies Programs
Instituto Monteverde
Apartado 69-5655
Monteverde de Puntarenas
Costa Rica, Central America

Telephones (in Costa Rica):  506-645-50-53 or 506-645-53-65
=46AX:  506-645-52-19
e-mails:  <mvipac@sol.racsa.co.cr> or <mviimv@sol.racsa.co.cr>
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Does anyone have contact information for the National Organization of Men
Against Sexism?  You can respond privately.  Thanks.
Christine Smith
csmith@vms.cis.pitt.du
casmith@lclark.edu
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These are other texts you might consider using:

Baron, Dennis. Grammar and Gender (1986) (Yale UP)
Cameron, Deborah (ed.) The Feminist Critique of Language: A Reader
(1990) (Routledge)
Coates, Jennifer. Women, Men and Language (1993) (Longman)
Graddol, David & Joan Swann. Gender Voices (1989) (Basil Blackwell)

I. Prazeres
University of Windsor
Dept. of English

Theresa Conefrey wrote:

> I'm planning my dept's first ever women and language course
> and would appreciate suggestions for a basic reader.  The ones I'm
> familiar with include Thorne and Henley (1975) Language and sex,
> Thorne, Kramarae and Henley (1983) Language gender and society,
> Hall and Bucholtz (1995) Gender articulated.
>
> What else is out there that would be suitable for  undergraduates
> unfamiliar
> with women's studies?
> Thanks,
>
> Theresa Conefrey
> Department of English
> University of Hawaii-Hilo
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I concur.  My intro students, no matter their class year, are always
impressed with what their foremothers were thinking and doing as little as
25 years ago.  They may actually take for granted what their contemporaries
are doing, but love to learn what was brewing before they were born, and
thus they pay a special kind of attention.

Beth Seetch
seetchm@lafayette.edu
> I agree with Ruby. Whatever happened to studying the feminist classics?
> Carolyn Wright
> ciwright@mailbox.syr.edu
> On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Ruby Rohrlich wrote:
>
>
>> "Going back a generation or two" when teaching seems like a very good
>>   idea, Florence Howe.  It amazes me when people look at the dates an
>>    article or book was written or published to discover its contents,
>>  and if  it was dated in 70s they say it is "dated."   They sure must
>>  miss a hell  of a lot of good material using dates as a criterion of
>> worth.  Ruby  Rohrlich
>>   rohrlich@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu
>>
>>
>
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I still find it impowering to read Abigail Adams' letters to John!
Carolyn Wright
ciwright@mailbox.syr.edu

> I concur.  My intro students, no matter their class year, are always
> impressed with what their foremothers were thinking and doing as little as
> 25 years ago.  They may actually take for granted what their contemporaries
> are doing, but love to learn what was brewing before they were born, and
> thus they pay a special kind of attention.
>
> Beth Seetch
> seetchm@lafayette.edu
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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I haven't found much from WS that deals with these issues, at least not
from a social science perspective (it may be out there, and I simply don't
know).  However, in ethnic studies these issues have been tackled, at least
to some extent.  Here are two authors:

Mario Barrera, Race and Class in the Southwest, South Bend, Indiana,
University of Notre Dame Press, 1979 (this analysis does not include gender).

Donald Tomaskovic-Devey, Gender & Racial Inequality at Work:  The Sources &
Consequences of Job Segregation, Ithaca, New York, ILR Press (Cornell
University), 1993.

There is also a lot of Canadian literature dealing with the "vertical
mosaic," much of it using census data.  A brief review of much of this may
be found in Ronald L. Cosper and Nancy W. Jabbra, Ethnic Inequality of
Ethnic Groups in Atlantic Canada, International Journal of Comparative Race
and Ethnic Studies 1:  81-94, 1994.  Most of this material does not include
gender as a variable.
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Someone asked me for a cite for a statement of Susie Tharu's that I
mentioned. I can't find the inquiry message but I've located the source for
the statement.It's in Problems for a Contemporary Theory of Gender in
Social Scientist March-April 1994 Vol.22, Nos 3-4. (published in India) She
wrote, with Tejaswini Niranjana, about the 'subject of politics. The
shaping of the normative human-Indian involved, on the one hand, a
dialectial relationship of inequality and opposition with the clasical
subject of western liberalism, and on the other hand, its coding as
upper-caste, middle-class, Hindu and male' (p. 96). I think it's a useful
conceptual way to think about citizen wherever we live.
    In citing this, working from memory, I used 'citizen' rather than
'subject' because it seemed appropriate to the context.
        beatrice    bkachuck@cuny.campus.mci.net
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Date:         Sat, 7 Feb 1998 00:04:42 -0500
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From:         Joan Korenman <KORENMAN@UMBC2.UMBC.EDU>
Subject:      Vision 2000 available from WMST-L
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        Not long ago, there was some discussion on WMST-L of "Vision 2000,"
a document created "to ensure full and equitable participation by women in
the New England Land Grant Universities" and to offer "a vision of where
women . . . can and should be" at the start of the coming century.   Daphne
Patai's essay critical of "Vision 2000" ("Why Not a Feminist Overhaul of
Higher Education?") was made available in the WMST-L file collection by its
author.  Now, thanks to Sabina Foote of the University of New Hampshire,
"Vision 2000" has also been added to the WMST-L files.  To get a copy of
Vision 2000, send the following e-mail message to LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU:

        GET VISION 2000

If you'd also like a copy of Daphne Patai's essay, add a second line that
says
        GET FEMINIST OVERHAUL

        Be sure to send this message to LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU, not to
WMST-L.

        Many thanks to Sabina Foote and Daphne Patai for making these
documents available on WMST-L.

        Joan Korenman

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Date:         Sat, 7 Feb 1998 07:42:28 -0500
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From:         Kelley Crouse <kcwalker@SYR.EDU>
Subject:      origins of the personal is political?
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I'm forwarding this request from another list.  Can anyone help with the
history and origins of the slogan "the personal is political?"

Kelley Crouse
kcwalker@syr.edu

-------forwarded message------------------

i've been trying to track down the source of the feminist slogan "the
personal is political" and i'm not having much luck.  does anyone out
there either know the source, or have ideas where i might look?

it starts to crop up in a lot of feminist anthologies as section/chapter
headings in the 1980s, but never with a citation, suggesting that by then
it was well-established (and i remember this to be true). feminist
histories of radical/cultural feminism always say that the phrase was
widely used throughout the 1960s, but never referecning a specific
citation, speaker, group, or date.  i've read many, many primary
documents/books from the 1960s and still have had no luck.

robin morgan uses a similar (but not exact) formulation in 1970 (in her
introduction to "sisterhood is powerful"). unlikely as this may sound,
it's the earliest reference i can find, given that the consensus in
histories of radical/cultural feminism is that the slogan was coined in
the 1960s.

i'm wondering if anyone knows (remembers?) the origin of this phrase?  i'm
not even sure if it originated in the US, england, or perhaps australia
(because of morgan).
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Date:         Sat, 7 Feb 1998 08:33:53 -0500
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From:         "dbic6066@uriacc.uri.edu" <dbic6066@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: origins of the personal is political?
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Carol Hanisch has a brief essay called "The Personal is Political" in the
Redstockings collection *Feminist Revolution* -- her essay is dated March
1969 (204-205).  The essay defends consciousness-raising against the charge
that it is "therapy."  Hanisch states "One of the first things we discover
in these groups is that personal problems are political problems.  There are
no personal solutions at this time."

At 07:42 AM 2/7/98 -0500, Kelley Crouse wrote:
>I'm forwarding this request from another list.  Can anyone help with the
>history and origins of the slogan "the personal is political?"
>
>Kelley Crouse
>kcwalker@syr.edu
Donna M. Bickford
dbic6066@uriacc.uri.edu
Department of English and Women's Studies Program
University of Rhode Island
315 Roosevelt Hall
Kingston, RI 02881
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Subject:      WMST-L's advertising policy (User's Guide)
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Today's monthly excerpt from the WMST-L User's Guide:

        NOTE: Do not send commercial advertising to some or all
WMST-L subscribers, not even privately.  People who use their access to
WMST-L to gather e-mail addresses to use for commercial advertising, or to
give or sell to others, will be removed from WMST-L and barred from
re-subscribing.  However, if you have created a women's-studies-related
book, video, etc.  and wish to let subscribers know about it, you may
announce it on WMST-L.  Indeed, you are encouraged to do so.  You may also
mention other books and resources, even if you have a commercial interest
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books/resources are directly relevant.  Please do NOT send notices about
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        Each month, I post sections from the WMST-L User's Guide to remind
subscribers of the list's resources and procedures.  If changes have been
made since the last time a section was posted, the subject header will
begin "Revision:".  Also, you can now consult the User's Guide anytime
you'd like if you have access to the World Wide Web.  The URL is
http://www.umbc.edu/wmst/user-guide.html .  You can also get a copy of the
guide via e-mail by sending the message GET GUIDE WMST-L to
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From:         Joan Korenman <KORENMAN@UMBC2.UMBC.EDU>
Subject:      the personal is political - 3 years of responses
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        Queries about the origins of the phrase "the personal is political"
have appeared on WMST-L with some regularity.  They have elicited a number
of responses.  I did a quick database search for the phrase in the WMST-L
archives stored on UMDD (only the last three years are stored at UMDD; the
earlier years are on InforM, as my message below explains).  Here is what
that search turned up.  Joan Korenman (korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu)

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Date:         Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:03:53 EST
From:         Rosa Maria Pegueros <PEGUEROS@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      "The personal is political"

[PLEASE REPLY PRIVATELY since this question is bound to draw zillions of
answers. I will post the answer to the list :   PEGUEROS@uriacc.uri.edu]

I am looking for the source of the quote, "The personal is political."
I believe that Robin Morgan said it but I don't know when or in what context,
or, in fact, if it was hers. Thanks.

Rosie

Rosa Maria Pegueros                  pegueros@uriacc.uri.edu
University of Rhode Island
Department of History                phone: (401) 874-4092
80 Upper College Road,  Suite 3        fax: (401) 874-2595
Kingston, RI 02881
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Date:         Tue, 3 Dec 1996 18:04:16 -0500
From:         MARTHA J HUNT <huntm@MEDLIB.GEORGETOWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: "The personal is political"

i think margaret sanger said it first "the personal is political"
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Date:         Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:14:27 +1100
From:         laurel guymer <capri@DEAKIN.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: "The personal is political"

>i think margaret sanger said it first "the personal is political"

I THOUGHT IT WAS CAROL STAINCH IN 1972????
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Date:         Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:03:03 -0000
From:         "Renee J. Heberle" <heberlrj@POTSDAM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: "The personal is political"

I thought it was Katie Sarachild...

Dr. Renee Heberle, heberlrj@potsdam.edu
Politics Department/Women's Studies Program
309a Satterlee Hall
SUNY Potsdam
Potsdam, NY  13676
Office Phone:  315-267-2555
Home Phone:  315-265-2513
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Date:         Fri, 7 Nov 1997 20:17:21 -0300
From:         Monica Tarducci <billyr@MBOX.SERVICENET.COM.AR>
Subject:      Re: personal is political

In Maggie Humm s "The dictionary or Feminist Theory" Columbus, Ohio Univ.
Press, (second edition)1995 : "A fhrase first coined by Carol Hanisch in
Notes from the second year (1970)......"
Monica Tarducci
billyr@mbox.servicenet.com.ar
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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:08:53 -0500
From:         Anne Carson <CARSON@LAW.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: personal is political

In 1992 or 1993 there was a lengthy discussion of this question on this
list, and as I recall someone traced the expression back to the 1950s.
(Might have been Schumacher who first used the expression - it was a male
social scientist at any rate.) Perhaps Joan could remind us how to access
the WMST-L digest.

Anne Carson
Cornell University Law Library
carson@law.mail.cornell.edu
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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:34:24 -0500
From:         Joan Korenman <KORENMAN@UMBC2.UMBC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: personal is political

[in response to Anne Carson]

        All WMST-L messages are automatically archived in the WMST-L
logfiles.  The last three years of logfiles are available via
LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU, and two sets of procedures exist for searching the
logfiles.  The instructions I learned from are available in a file called
SEARCH LOGFILES.  To get it, send the message GET SEARCH LOGFILES to
LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU .  More recently, a simplified procedure has been
developed; many people prefer it (though I prefer the older, more complex
instructions).  Instructions for the simplified procedure are available on
the web at http://www.umbc.edu/wmst/simplesearch.html or by email by
sending the message GET SEARCH SIMPLE to LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU .

        I think the discussion Anne refers to took place within the past
three years, but if in fact it took place before that, it will be in the
older logfiles that are available in the Women's Studies Archive on InforM:
http://www.inform.umd.edu/EdRes/Topic/WomensStudies/Computing/WMST-L/Logfiles/
  These logfiles cannot be searched using the Listserv procedures, just
whatever search capabilities are available on your web browser.

        Joan

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*    Joan Korenman                 korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu                  *
*    U. of Md. Baltimore County                                             *
*    Baltimore, MD 21250           http://www.umbc.edu/wmst/                *
*                                                                           *
*    The only person to have everything done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe  *
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Date:         Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:41:50 -0500
From:         Steven Schacht <SPSCHACHT@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: personal is political

C. Wright Mills back in the 1950's wrote about the promise of sociology being
the ability to take personal troubles/problems and to locate them in the
context of public/political issues.  Not sure this is the basis of this
contemporary feminist slogan and theoretical insight, but it assuredly is a
related outlook.

Best wishes,

Steven Schacht
Visiting Assistant Professor
Department of Sociology
Montana State University
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Date:         Sat, 7 Feb 1998 07:42:28 -0500
From:         Kelley Crouse <kcwalker@SYR.EDU>
Subject:      origins of the personal is political?

I'm forwarding this request from another list.  Can anyone help with the
history and origins of the slogan "the personal is political?"

Kelley Crouse
kcwalker@syr.edu

-------forwarded message------------------

i've been trying to track down the source of the feminist slogan "the
personal is political" and i'm not having much luck.  does anyone out
there either know the source, or have ideas where i might look?

it starts to crop up in a lot of feminist anthologies as section/chapter
headings in the 1980s, but never with a citation, suggesting that by then
it was well-established (and i remember this to be true). feminist
histories of radical/cultural feminism always say that the phrase was
widely used throughout the 1960s, but never referecning a specific
citation, speaker, group, or date.  i've read many, many primary
documents/books from the 1960s and still have had no luck.

robin morgan uses a similar (but not exact) formulation in 1970 (in her
introduction to "sisterhood is powerful"). unlikely as this may sound,
it's the earliest reference i can find, given that the consensus in
histories of radical/cultural feminism is that the slogan was coined in
the 1960s.

i'm wondering if anyone knows (remembers?) the origin of this phrase?  i'm
not even sure if it originated in the US, england, or perhaps australia
(because of morgan).
 ===========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 7 Feb 1998 08:33:53 -0500
From:         "dbic6066@uriacc.uri.edu" <dbic6066@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: origins of the personal is political?

Carol Hanisch has a brief essay called "The Personal is Political" in the
Redstockings collection *Feminist Revolution* -- her essay is dated March
1969 (204-205).  The essay defends consciousness-raising against the charge
that it is "therapy."  Hanisch states "One of the first things we discover
in these groups is that personal problems are political problems.  There are
no personal solutions at this time."

Donna M. Bickford
dbic6066@uriacc.uri.edu
Department of English and Women's Studies Program
University of Rhode Island
315 Roosevelt Hall
Kingston, RI 02881
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Date:         Sat, 7 Feb 1998 10:32:26 -0700
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Susan Belcher <susanb@CS.ATHABASCAU.CA>
Subject:      Re: the personal is political - 3 years of responses
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I believe that C.Wright Mills coined the term "the personal is political",
probably in his book, __The Sociological Imagination___ in the 1950's.

Susan M. Belcher
Lecturer, Sociology and Women's Studies
Athabasca University
P.O. Box 11411
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada T5J 3K6
Tel.: 477-5092
FAX: 492-2024
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Date:         Sat, 7 Feb 1998 12:23:02 -0600
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Annette McElhiney <mcelhina@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      GUIDELINES FOR CROSS-LISTING COURSES

Do any of you have guidelines for cross-listing courses with other
departments in colleges that you would be willing to share?

Annette Bennington McElhiney
Professor of English/Women's Studies
Metropolitan College of Denver
Box 32
P.O Box 173362
Denver, Colorado  80217-3362

If so, please reply to be via snail mail at the address above or via my
private e-mail address:  mcelhina@ix.netcom.com

Thanks for your help!
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Date:         Sat, 7 Feb 1998 10:31:40 -0800
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         benita roth <roth@UCLA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: personal is political
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c.wright mills does NOT use the phrase "the personal is political" in _the
sociological imagination_ that's carol hanisch's, as several people have
noted.  Mills, does, however, introduce the concept when he writes about the
intersection of public issues and personal problems, of personal biography
and history. Clearly the ideas that gave rise to the "personal is political"
predate feminism, but feminism crystallized these concepts as they referred
to the particular oppression of women.

By the way, Mills _The Sociological Imagination_ is, despite some dated
language, probably still the best statement of the sociological project that
I know of. br


Benita Roth, Ph.D.
Dept of Sociology,UCLA
roth@ucla.edu

"Anatomy, like the bubonic plague, is history, not destiny."
            -- Chesler, _Women & Madness_
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Date:         Sat, 7 Feb 1998 13:34:25 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Joan Korenman <KORENMAN@UMBC2.UMBC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: GUIDELINES FOR CROSS-LISTING COURSES
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> Do any of you have guidelines for cross-listing courses with other
> departments in colleges that you would be willing to share?

    I have a request to make of all WMST-L readers.  Before you ask for
information that might possibly have come up before, check the WMST-L
filelist to see whether there's a file available that you can write for.
To get the filelist, just send the 2-word mesage INDEX WMST-L to
LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU (**not** to WMST-L).  More information about this is
contained in the WMST-L User's Guide:
http://www.umbc.edu/wmst/user-guide.html .

        As for policies for crosslisting courses, yes, there is such a
file.  Send the message GET CROSSLST POLICIES (note that CROSSLST is
deliberately missing an "i") to LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU .

        Joan Korenman

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*    U. of Md. Baltimore County                                             *
*    Baltimore, MD 21250           http://www.umbc.edu/wmst/                *
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Date:         Sat, 7 Feb 1998 14:00:04 -0500
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Stacey Meadow <sm445@COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Disabled lesbian network.
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Hi All:

Does anyone know of any groups in the NYC area for disabled lesbians?  I'd
appreciate any references.  Please respond privately.

Thanks!

**********************************************************************
Stacey Meadow                                          Barnard College
sm445@columbia.edu                           Women'sStudies/Psychology
"Whatever is unnamed, undepicted in images, whatever is ommitted from
biograpgy, censored in collections of letters, whatever is misnamed as
something else, made difficult to come by, whatever is buried in the
memory by the collapse of meaning, hidden under an inadequite or lying
language...  this will become not merely unspoken, but unspeakable."
                        - Adrienne Rich
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Date:         Sat, 7 Feb 1998 15:41:56 -0600
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Marina Koether <M-Koether@NEIU.EDU>
Subject:      vision 2000 - response
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On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, beatricekachuck wrote:
>     Vision 2000 seems to me an academic document in the liberal tradition of,
> to quote Patai, "tolerance and intellectual openness." It lays out problems
> and proposes solutions. The proposals are consistent with principles and
> practices in universities and other agencies.

    After having read Vision 2000, I think it is a valent effort to
make dramatic changes.  My thoughts were "Gee, how many male students
would want to go to these schools but they would be more marketable for
the job opportunities than male students who do not attend these schools."

    I was pleased to see a bibliography.  One in particular, Paula J.
Caplan "Lifting a Ton of Feathers:  A woman's guide for surviving in the
academic world", 1993.

    This would need a strong push from the administration down
since peer faculty usually evaluate you for retention and promotion and if
they are not educated in the new methods and are resistant since they have
tenure, what does the untenured faculty member do?


Marina Koether <M-Koether@neiu.edu>
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Date:         Sat, 7 Feb 1998 17:38:41 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Ruby Rohrlich <rohrlich@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Vision 2000 available from WMST-L
In-Reply-To:  <01ITA10Z2O0I00611U@UMBC2.UMBC.EDU>
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Dear Joan:
I was unable to get the attachment "Feminist Overhaul.  Best Regards.
Ruby Rohrlich  rohrlich@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu


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Date:         Sat, 7 Feb 1998 22:02:51 -0800
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         "pauline b. bart" <pbart@UCLA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the personal is political - 3 years of responses
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At 10:32 AM 2/7/98 -0700, you wrote:
>I believe that C.Wright Mills coined the term "the personal is political",
>probably in his book, __The Sociological Imagination___ in the 1950's.
>
>Susan M. Belcher
>Lecturer, Sociology and Women's Studies
>Athabasca University
>P.O. Box 11411
>Edmonton, Alberta
>Canada T5J 3K6
>Tel.: 477-5092
>FAX: 492-2024
>A similar idea was in C. Wright Mills when he spoke of private problems
becoming public issues, as well as his discussion of the intersection of
biography and history. Mills work on vocabulary of motives is also relevant,
cinece we learned that what was called our "penis envy" was in fact our
anger at our inequality.  I have always maintained that a feminist analysis
must be a sociological analysis.  Admittedly I may be prejudiced.

Best, Pauline B. Bart  pbart@UCLA.EDU

>
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Date:         Sat, 7 Feb 1998 22:20:14 -0800
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         "pauline b. bart" <pbart@UCLA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: origins of the personal is political?
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At 07:42 AM 2/7/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm forwarding this request from another list.  Can anyone help with the
>history and origins of the slogan "the personal is political?"
>
>Kelley Crouse
>kcwalker@syr.edu
>
>-------forwarded message------------------
>
>i've been trying to track down the source of the feminist slogan "the
>personal is political" and i'm not having much luck.  does anyone out
>there either know the source, or have ideas where i might look?
>
>it starts to crop up in a lot of feminist anthologies as section/chapter
>headings in the 1980s, but never with a citation, suggesting that by then
>it was well-established (and i remember this to be true). feminist
>histories of radical/cultural feminism always say that the phrase was
>widely used throughout the 1960s, but never referecning a specific
>citation, speaker, group, or date.  i've read many, many primary
>documents/books from the 1960s and still have had no luck.
>
>robin morgan uses a similar (but not exact) formulation in 1970 (in her
>introduction to "sisterhood is powerful"). unlikely as this may sound,
>it's the earliest reference i can find, given that the consensus in
>histories of radical/cultural feminism is that the slogan was coined in
>the 1960s.
>
>i'm wondering if anyone knows (remembers?) the origin of this phrase?  i'm
>not even sure if it originated in the US, england, or perhaps australia
>(because of morgan).
>
>Dear Women,

As a member of what I call "The First Wave of the Second Wave" we never
called ourselves "cultural feminists".  That term has been applied to us
pejoratively by people recently.  We were always concerned with race and
class, as a quick look at the table of contents of Sisterhood is Powerful by
Morgan will show.

best, Pauline Bart pbart
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Today's monthly excerpt from the WMST-L User's Guide:

     10)  "I'VE BEEN AWAY FOR TWO WEEKS.  I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT I'VE MISSED
ON WMST-L DURING THE TIME I'VE BEEN GONE.  IS IT POSSIBLE TO ACCESS
PREVIOUS MESSAGES?"   [also useful for new subscribers]

     Yes.  All WMST-L messages are automatically archived.  The 1991
archives are arranged in monthly logs; beginning in Jan., 1992, the logs
were changed to a weekly format.  To find out what logs are available, you
can send LISTSERV the following command: INDEX WMST-L .  You'll then
receive a list of the available logs.  To obtain the logs, send LISTSERV
the following command:     GET WMST-L [filename]

where [filename] is the name of the log file you want.  For example:

     GET WMST-L LOG9609a

will get you the log for the first week ("a") in September 1996
(9609 refers to the 9th month of 1996).  LOG9612b is the log for the second
week ("b") in Dec. 1996 (December is the 12th month).  (It's possible that
the wording of your request may take a slightly  different form, depending
on your mail system, but what you want is  WMST-L LOGnnnnl.)   Warning:
some of these logs are LARGE (> 300K).  As a result, you may not be
permitted to get more than a few logs on any given day (the current limit
is 20 files  or 2M - i.e., 2000K).  NOTE: Logfiles from before 1995 are no
longer available on UMDD.  To make room for newer logfiles, they were moved
to the Women's Studies archive on InforM
(http://www.inform.umd.edu/EdRes/Topic/WomensStudies/ ).  As time passes,
other old logfiles will also be moved to InforM.

        The WMST-L filelist contains instructions designed to teach you how
to search the UMDD logfiles for specific subjects.  The instructions I
recommend are contained in a file called SEARCH SIMPLE.  It explains the
new, simplified search procedures.  This file is available on the web or
via e-mail.  The web URL is http://www.umbc.edu/wmst/simplesearch.html .
To get it by e-mail, send the message GET SEARCH SIMPLE to
LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU.  These instructions apply only to logfiles on UMDD,
not those that have been moved to InforM.

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        Each month, I post sections from the WMST-L User's Guide to remind
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From: Carol Goodenow <goodenow@MA.ULTRANET.COM>
Subject:      Death of Mary Roth Walsh
To: POWR-L@uriacc.uri.edu

I was shocked to see, in this morning's Boston Globe, an article announcing
the death of Mary Roth Walsh. She and her husband (also a professor at UMass
Lowell) were found in the bedroom of their home in Arlington, MA, apparently
dead of carbon monoxide poisoning.  Neighbors had notified the police when
mail and papers began accumulating.  The Globe reported that the police did
not suspect any foul play, but were uncertain at this time about whether the
deaths might have been a double suicide or were just accidental.
        As most of you know, Mary was very active in Division 35, had
organized many pre-conference workshops on the teaching of feminist
psychology/psychology of women, and had edited a widely-used book on issues
in feminist psychology.

------------------------------------------------------------
Carol Goodenow
goodenow@ma.ultranet.com
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To: WMST-L
Fn: Pat Lengermann and Jill Niebrugge-Brantley

Joephine Donovan in _ Feminist Theory_ (1985, Ungar) credits the phrase to a
Carol Hanisch article of that title in _Notes from the Second Year_ ed. by
Shulamith Firestone and Anne Koedt. New York:  Radical Feminism. 1970.
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Date:         Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:39:32 -0500
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Hello list members,

I would like to know if anyone is aware of recent (or not so recent)
feminist analyses of two prevailing trends in corporate culture:
the total quality movement, and the "teaming" movement.
Total quality is, as far as I understand it (being newly arrived in
the corporate world from academia) a system of management,
a semi-theoretical framework for doing business, and verges on
what I would call a corporate religion in some places.  It supposedly
focues on the process, and attributes failure not to individuals but to
problems with the process that when identified, can be fixed.  "Teaming"
is the concept of assembling teams to plan, manage, and carry out
a project contracted for with a client or an internal project, rather tha=
n
having scattered and unconnected individuals working individually
on aspects of a project.  In both cases, some aspects of these =

movements or approaches to doing business call to mind, at least
for me, aspects of collective work that one might expect to find =

practiced in feminist business environments.  =

Perhaps I should explain how this connection arose in my mind.
I was rereading some comic strips by Alison Bechdel, a series
called (I think) "Servants to the Cause" about a group of gays
and lesbians working together to put out a newspaper.
Some of the strips have episodes of conflict resolution,
mediation/faciltating by group members, and I was looking at =

these right after having been in a company sponsored training session
where these kinds of concepts and the skills needed to practice them were=

being discussed.  =


I don't mean to imply that the corporate world has suddenly gone
feminist and collective decision making has taken over.  Rather, it
seems to me that some of these concepts have made their way into
corporate culture, and I do believe that they have been co-opted and
transformed to serve the needs of capitalism.  I find this phenomenon
fascinating and perhaps worthy of further study, and would like to
know whether anyone else is looking into things like this, and if so,
what sources have your found interesting/useful.  My feeling is that =

these movements are, in part, supposed to give employees more
of a sense of power over and pride in their work, but many employees
experience them as just another coercive attempt by the company to
squeeze ever more labor out of the employees for the same price.
I think there are environments where it can work well, but it can also
be experienced as a method for convincing you to feel good about
how hard you have to work for how little financial reward.  =


There may also be a connection to the spread of these movements
through corporate culture and some of the interesting results list member=
s
were reporting to their use of the masculinity/femininity leadership trai=
ts
surveys in their classes.  Indeed, the expressed idea of what constitutes=

a good leader is changing in industry, though in practice, from what I
have seen over the past six months, is that the "traditional" concept of
a leader's personality and behavior is still very likely to be rewarded.

Please reply privately unless you think this a topic likely to be of
interest =

to other list members.  =


Suzanne Franks
sfranks2@compuserve.com
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Date:         Sun, 8 Feb 1998 18:24:08 -0600
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From:         Kathryn Troester <troes001@METVAX.METRO.MSUS.EDU>
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Hello all,

While not saying "The personal is political" specifically, Claudia Jones,
in her 1949 essay "An End to the Neglect of the Problems of the Negro
Woman!" (originally published in "Political Affiars", re-published in
"Words of Fire: An Antohology if African American Feminist Thought," New
York: The New Press, 1995) wrote;

"This means ridding ourselves of the position which sometimes finds certain
progressives and Communists fighting on the economic and political issues
facing Negro people, but 'drawing the line' when it comes to social
intercourse or inter-marriage.  To place the question as a 'personal' and
not a political matter, when such questions arise, is to be guilty of the
worst kind of Social-Democratic, bourgeois-liberal thinking as regards the
Negro question in American life; it is to be guilty of imbibing the
poisonous white-chauvinist 'theories' of a Bilbo or Rankin." (1995, p:117)

This passage sugests to me that the concept did not pre-date (is pre-date
the correct term?) feminism, as suggested in the discussion concerning C.
Wright Mills' ideas, but that the concept has been with us far longer.

kathryn troester
troes001@metvax.metro.msus.edu
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Date:         Sun, 8 Feb 1998 19:04:33 -0800
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the post by kathryn troester makes an excellent point, and I would like to
correct myself -- in fact the idea that on some level the personal is
political is part and parcel of feminist and socialist women's activism --
think of Emma Goldman.  In thinking of mills, I was trying to come up with a
source that second wave activists would have been more directly influenced
by, but I certainly did not mean to imply that it all started with mills. br

At 06:24 PM 2/8/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>While not saying "The personal is political" specifically, Claudia Jones,
>in her 1949 essay "An End to the Neglect of the Problems of the Negro
>Woman!" (originally published in "Political Affiars", re-published in
>"Words of Fire: An Antohology if African American Feminist Thought," New
>York: The New Press, 1995) wrote;
>
>"This means ridding ourselves of the position which sometimes finds certain
>progressives and Communists fighting on the economic and political issues
>facing Negro people, but 'drawing the line' when it comes to social
>intercourse or inter-marriage.  To place the question as a 'personal' and
>not a political matter, when such questions arise, is to be guilty of the
>worst kind of Social-Democratic, bourgeois-liberal thinking as regards the
>Negro question in American life; it is to be guilty of imbibing the
>poisonous white-chauvinist 'theories' of a Bilbo or Rankin." (1995, p:117)
>
>This passage sugests to me that the concept did not pre-date (is pre-date
>the correct term?) feminism, as suggested in the discussion concerning C.
>Wright Mills' ideas, but that the concept has been with us far longer.
>
>kathryn troester
>troes001@metvax.metro.msus.edu
>
>
Benita Roth, Ph.D.
Dept of Sociology,UCLA
roth@ucla.edu

"Anatomy, like the bubonic plague, is history, not destiny."
            -- Chesler, _Women & Madness_
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Date:         Mon, 9 Feb 1998 07:49:11 -0500
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Subject:      WMST-L file collection (User's Guide)
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Today's monthly excerpt from the WMST-L User's Guide:

     11)  "HOW DO I FIND OUT WHAT FILES ARE AVAILABLE FROM WMST-L, AND HOW
DO I OBTAIN THE FILES I WANT?"

        To find out what files are available, send LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU
(or, on Bitnet, LISTSERV@UMDD) the same command mentioned in the previous
section: INDEX WMST-L.  The list you'll receive from LISTSERV includes
files as well as logs.  To obtain the file(s) you want, send LISTSERV the
following command:

     GET [filename] WMST-L

where [filename] is the two-word name of the file you want.  For
example, suppose you send for the filelist (INDEX WMST-L) and see the
following listing:

*   Policies for cross-listing courses with Women's Studies
  CROSSLST POLICIES   ALL OWN V      79   436 92/12/07 20:41:03

To get this file, you'd send the message GET CROSSLST POLICIES WMST-L
to LISTSERV@UMDD (Bitnet) or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU (Internet).

Note that [filename] consists of two words separated by a space and
not a period.  (Adding WMST-L after the two-word filename is optional; it
simply makes sure that if two lists have a file with the same name, you'll
get the right one.)

        IMPORTANT NOTE: women's studies syllabi are contained in a
subdirectory called SYLLABI, while feminist film reviews are to be found
in a subdirectory called FILM, and reference book mini-reviews are in the
WMSTBOOK  subdirectory.  To find out what syllabi, film reviews, or
reference book mini-reviews a subdirectory contains, send LISTSERV the
command INDEX SYLLABI (or INDEX FILM or INDEX WMSTBOOK).  To obtain the
file(s) you want, send LISTSERV the following command:

GET [filename] SYLLABI  (or replace SYLLABI w/FILM or WMSTBOOK as needed)

        If you are requesting a film review, be aware that the
filename always takes the form FILM REVx (e.g., FILM REV25); the name
of the film is NOT the filename!  You can request more than one file
at once; just be sure to put each request on a separate line.
LISTSERV will then send the file(s) to you either in a mail message or
in Netdata format.  You can force LISTSERV to send them in a mail
message by adding F=MAIL at the end of each command.  For example, GET
[filename] FILM F=MAIL .  Or, to retrieve files sent by LISTSERV in
Netdata format, follow these instructions:

     If your e-mail address is on a VAX/VMS machine, when you get a message
that one or more files have arrived at your e-mail address, you should type
"RECEIVE *" (do not include the quotation marks) at the $ prompt.  This
command will put the file(s) into your main directory.  You can then type
"TYPE filename" (replace "filename" with the actual name of the file) to
read the file.  If it's a long file, you can read it more effectively by
typing "TYPE/PAGE filename."  If your e-mail address is on an IBM VM/CMS
machine, either use your mailer front end or type RLIST and RECEIVE the
file into your FLIST. Go into your FLIST to look at the file.

     If your e-mail address is on a different kind of machine OR you are
using Profs or some other kind of similar mailing system, go ahead and try
the above commands.  If they do not work, CALL YOUR COMPUTER SERVICES
OFFICE.  The people there should be able to help you and/or give you a
manual for your mailing system commands.

        NOTE:  Many WMST-L files (and a lot more!) are also available on
the Women's Studies archive on InforM, the University of Maryland's Online
Information Service.  The URL is
http://www.inform.umd.edu/EdRes/Topic/WomensStudies/ . If you don't have
access to the Web, you can telnet to inform.umd.edu . Select Educational
Resources, then Academic Resources by Topic, then Women's Studies
Resources. InforM contains a goldmine of online information about women.
Do have a look!

                    *******************

        Each month, I post sections from the WMST-L User's Guide to remind
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made since the last time a section was posted, the subject header will
begin "Revision:".  Also, you can now consult the User's Guide anytime
you'd like if you have access to the World Wide Web.  The URL is
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    Joan Korenman        Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu
                             Bitnet:   korenman@umbc
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Date:         Sun, 8 Feb 1998 20:47:48 -0400
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From:         Paul Burnam <pdburnam@CC.OWU.EDU>
Subject:      Contacting Feminist Historians
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I want to contact three feminist scholars who published books about the
National Woman's Party.  They and their works are as follows:

        Becker, Susan D. The Origins of the Equal Rights Amendment.

        Ford, Linda G.  Iron-Jawed Angels.

        Lunardini, Christine A. From Equal Suffrage to Equal Rights.

My main hope is that I can obtain the email addresses for these scholars.
If not that, I would be most appreciative of learning with what institution
or publisher they are affiliated.  Please reply directly to me and not the
list.  Thank you in advance for your time and assistance.

PAUL BURNAM, PUBLIC SERVICES LIBRARIAN
Ohio Wesleyan University Libraries
Delaware, OH 43015-2312
(740) 368-3240 (office)
(740) 368-3222 (fax)
Internet:  pdburnam@cc.owu.edu
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Date:         Mon, 9 Feb 1998 09:37:09 -0500
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         beatricekachuck <bkachuck@CUNY.CAMPUS.MCI.NET>
Subject:      Re: Source of quotation
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I don' know where that quotation comes from. How about substituting Marge
Piercy's 'We make history or it makes us'
        beatrice    bkachuck@cuny.campus.mci.net

At 10:24 AM 2/5/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I would appreciate it if anyone could tell me the source of the quotation,
>"We must invent a history adequate to our needs."  I once saw it on a
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Date:         Mon, 9 Feb 1998 08:26:40 -0600
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Naomi Standen <nstanden@STAFF.UWSUPER.EDU>
Subject:      gender in Chinese language
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[Note: the quotes are edited to the extent that I took them out of all caps.]

>According to a Chinese teacher, one of my colleagues, the gender
>distinction in the third person pronouns in the writing is not a recent
>invention, but it has existed for a long time in the history of the
>chinese language.

I'd love to know exactly when the 'female' character came into being. My
understanding (which may be wrong) was that it was one result of the
linguistic changes happening from the late Qing (C19) onwards, which, being
a medieval historian, I count as relatively recent! Can your teacher give
you a date/period to share with us?

>Incidentally, several researchers have recently
>presented the women's characters--Chinese characters invented by women
>for the use of women when women were not allowed to write the regular
>(for-male use) Chinese characters--a somewhat different but basically
>similar situation was observed in Japan, too, in the beginning of the
>development of the Japanese writing: women did not have access to the
>standard writing system.

The interesting thing here is that in China the women's language was
unheard-of until recently (there's a good article in _Engendering China_,
four eds including Hershatter - don't have the book to hand), whereas in
Japan women's writing is and has been widely celebrated as, for instance,
providing the first novel anywhere in the world (_The Tale of Genji_).
Drawing from the same Confucian base, and with similar patterns of
production (at least in the post-C11 Chinese ideal), the cultures have done
entirely different things with women's writing.

Now there's a research project!

--
Naomi Standen
Department of History, Politics and Society
University of Wisconsin-Superior
nstanden@staff.uwsuper.edu
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Date:         Mon, 9 Feb 1998 10:03:51 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         "PLEN: Public Leadership Education Network" <plen@CLARK.NET>
Subject:      Vision 2000; Feminist Overhaul
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This message was returned to me.  I thought I was sending it to the address
your message suggested.  Am trying the WMST-L address instead. Marianne
>>Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 10:07:01
>>To: LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU
>>From: "PLEN: Public Leadership Education Network" <plen@clark.net>
>>Subject: Vision 2000; Feminist Overhaul
>>
>>Get Vision 2000; Get Feminist Overhaul.  Please. Marianne


Marianne Alexander

Public Leadership Education Network (PLEN)
1001 Connecticut Ave., N.W., Suite 900
Washington, D.C.  20036
Phone: (202) 872-1585
Fax: (202) 457-0549
E-mail: plen@clark.net
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Date:         Mon, 9 Feb 1998 10:03:04 -0600
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         "Women's Presses Library Project, Mev Miller" <wplp@WINTERNET.COM>
Subject:      Re: language, pedagogy, self-revelation, etc.
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=46rom the Women's Presses Library Project:

In light of the current discussions on language, pedagogy, "how do you
handle...," self-revelation wwwwwwwwwand other related topics, I'd like to
offer the following title suggestions from o ur list. Perhaps there are
some useful tools here. If you need assistance in locating these titles,
please let me know.
Mev

Breaking the Patriarchal Code: The Linguistic Basis of Sexual Bias
Louise Gou=EBffic
Knowledge, Ideas & Trends (KIT)
Offers a fascinating and learned look at our language and its subtle,
hidden agenda which promotes the idea of male dominance, violence,
political gain and control.
1996    1-879198-17-7    P    $19.95    228pp.

Calling: Essays on Teaching in the Mother Tongue
Gail B. Griffin
Trilogy Books
Griffin charts her growth as a feminist teacher and also wrestles with
larger issues of contemporary campus life including sexual harassment,
faculty politics, male vs. female development, and classroom pedagogy.
1992    0-9623879-2-4   P       $14.95  253pp.

The  Journal Project: Dialogues and Conversations Inside Women's Studies
Dana Putnam, Dorothy Kidd and Elaine Dornan, Editors
Second Story Press
Through their journal writings, Women's Studies students talk about racism,
sexism, violence against women, sexuality and school in this look at
contemporary society.
1995    0-929005-69-4   P       $12.95  224pp.

Season of the Witch: Border Lines, Marginal Notes
Gail B. Griffin
Trilogy Books
This book blends autobiography and literary criticism to examine conflicts
currently raging around feminism, multiculturalism and political
correctness, both on our embattled college campuses and on the larger
American scene.
1995    0-9623879-5-9   P       $16.95  272pp.

WOMEN'S PRESSES LIBRARY PROJECT
"...keeping women's words in circulation"
Mev Miller
Project Coodinator
1483 Laurel Ave.
St. Paul, MN 55104-6737
612-646-0097
612-646-1153 (fax)
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Johanna Brenner asked (twice) for advice on how to get women faculty in other
departments more involved in WS.  Maybe nobody answered the first time because
it's hard to know where to begin, especially if you don't know anything about
her program.

It's possible that her program is self-contained, perhaps even a department,
with its own faculty, resources, and structure parallel to other departments.
It seems that the problem is that there are feminists "out there" teaching
courses that would be appropriately WS, perhaps even redundant on or
overlapping the WS offerings.  If that's the situation, one might think that a
primary goal of WS is already being met, i.e., bringing a feminist perspective
to the traditional curriculum.

On the other hand, it's more likely that her WS program is a small struggling
entity, offering some important and unique courses but lacking a solid base of
faculty support and adequate resources.  Perhaps there's even unpleasant
competition between WS and other, similar, courses and faculty.

Ideally, all like-minded faculty should be involved in the development and
support of WS.  It was relatively easy in the "old days" to find and engage
each other, even without adequate compensation or time off.  The goals of WS
were so vital and exciting, and the sisterly fellowship so satisfying, that we
just did it.  Now things are more complicated.

Seems to me we're at a critical juncture and must re-think our goals,
threading carefully between institutional empire-building and marginalized
martyrdom.  There have to be new incentives, for individuals and departments,
to join with WS.  Cross-listing makes sense (see the recent WMST-L
discussions), and joint appointments if you can wangle them.  But the future
strength of WS depends, I think, on redefining and clarifying the needs to be
met, the continuing gaps and biases in academia, and new methods of attacking
the old problems.

The February issue of _The Women's Review of Books_ just arrived.  It includes
a section on academic issues -- excellent and challenging!

Kathleen Preston
Humboldt State Uiversity
KathKnight@aol.com
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Today's monthly excerpt from the WMST-L User's Guide:

                          *******************

    12)  "MY UNIVERSITY HAS A JOB OPENING.  MAY I POST AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON
WMST-L?"

        WMST-L welcomes the posting of job and conference announcements,
calls for papers, and the like, as long as the announcement has some
explicit connection to Women's Studies.  Announcements without such a
connection should NOT be sent to WMST-L.  The wish to reach more female
candidates, however laudable, is NOT adequate reason to post
non-Women's-Studies announcements.  Heavy mail volume is a persistent
problem on WMST-L; the list cannot accommodate the increased volume that a
more liberal posting policy would bring.  (Keep in mind that each year,
there are literally thousands of academic job openings.  Most institutions
wish to show that they have tried to reach female and minority applicants.
Whereas some commercial publications charge hundreds of dollars to carry
even a small ad, WMST-L is free.  Thus, unless we restrict postings, the
list is likely to be INUNDATED with job announcements.)

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        Each month, I post sections from the WMST-L User's Guide to remind
subscribers of the list's resources and procedures.  If changes have been
made since the last time a section was posted, the subject header will
begin "Revision:".  Also, you can now consult the User's Guide anytime
you'd like if you have access to the World Wide Web.  The URL is
http://www.umbc.edu/wmst/user-guide.html .  You can also get a copy of the
guide via e-mail by sending the message GET GUIDE WMST-L to
LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU .

    Joan Korenman        Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu
                             Bitnet:   korenman@umbc
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A colleague who is not on this list asked me to forward a message for
her.  If you are interested in the opportunity presented below, please
respond by e-mailing sloane@uwm.edu.  Please do not respond
to me or the list.  Thanks!

Kim Romenesko
Center for Women's Studies
UW-Milwaukee

---------- Forwarded message ----------

RESPONSE DEADLINE: March 10, 1998

    Ethel Sloane, Professor Emerita of Biological Sciences at the
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, is looking for a co-author to revise
and update the new (4th) edition of her book, BIOLOGY OF WOMEN, published
in 1993 by Delmar Publishers. Ideally, the individual should be a
biologist or have evidence of activity in the field of women's health.
Professor Sloane prefers that the co-author has taught a women's studies
course on issues of women's health or biology of women, used the book
as a text, and has a similar attitude and writing style. For this 4th
edition the individual will receive credit as co-author and the
publisher will provide a $3K grant for research assistance, course
buy-out, etc., as a one-time fee in lieu of royalties. It is anticipated
that for subsequent editions, however, the person who is selected for the
project will take over as sole author. Revising and updating in
progress is to be submitted to Professor Sloane and should be completed by
early 1999. Anyone who is sincere about assuming the challenge and
responsibility of continuing to disseminate the information in the content
of BIOLOGY OF WOMEN should e-mail a statement of interest and a very brief
summary curriculum vitae to sloane@uwm.edu.
    Please circulate this to people who would be qualified and want to
take this on.

    RESPONSE DEADLINE:  March 10, 1998.


Ethel Sloane, Professor Emerita
Department of Biological Sciences
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
P.O. Box 413
Milwaukee, WI  53201

sloane@uwm.edu
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I am looking for suggestions for dynamic and interesting speakers for a
lecture series at Rutgers in New Jersey. What it is really is a "mission
course" for first-year students of Douglass College, which is the
women's college of Rutgers. The course is called "Shaping a Life," and
each week all 600-700 or so students come to a lecture by a prominent
woman who talks about her life and her work. There are then small group
section meetings where we discuss the lecture and readings that tie into
it. In the past some of our speakers have been Helen Caldicott, Janice
Davis Miller (domestic violence survivor and now lawyer), Jessica Govea
(labor organizer and activist), and Cathy Bao Bean (author). We do not
have much money for speakers, and so we can't consider big-ticket
lecturers. What seems most crucial is that the speakers be able to speak
comfortably about themselves, understand the specific nature of a very
large audience composed mostly of 18 year old female students, and have
a certain passion about their subject/career. Obviously we seek
diversity in the speakers as well. If any WMST-L members have ideas
about potential speakers (preferably in the New Jersey/New York area) or
would even like to volunteer to speak themselves, please contact me
off-list. Thank you.

Betsy Keller
elk@rci.rutgers.edu
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From:         Jacqueline Haessly <jacpeace@ACS.STRITCH.EDU>
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I posted a rather lengthy response to Suzanne privately, including a
number of references.  Because some of my response to Suzanne has
implications for others in Women's Studies and/or feminist issues, I am
also posting selections from that response here to the list.


Suzanne Frank asked:
"I would like to know if anyone is aware of recent (or not so recent)
feminist analyses of two prevailing trends in corporate culture:
the total quality movement, and the "teaming" movement.
Total quality is, as far as I understand it (being newly arrived in
the corporate world from academia) a system of management,
a semi-theoretical framework for doing business, and verges on
what I would call a corporate religion in some places."


There are two (actually three) differing concepts here (in Suzanne's
original message --see below, and at work in corporate America:  1) Total
Quality Management, 2) team work; and 3) feminist framework.  Total
Quality Management, or TQM as it is commonly refered to, is a system of
management style attributed to Edward Deming who took the style to Japan
in 1950 when it was rejected by US corporate leaders as too revolutionary.
Most good introduction to management books will include TQM and Deming
somewhere in the book.  "[The] essence [of TQM] is that poor quality is
unacceptable. . . Employees should be rewarded for spotting quality
problems, not punished.  To honor his contributions to their industries,
the Japanese created the Deming prize, award annualy to the Japanese
company that has attained the highest level of quality.  An increasing
number of U.S. firms (names some), are now using Deming's ideas to improve
their quality" (Hellriegel and Slocum, 1992, p. 29).  Chapter 20 covers
the concept and practice in much greater depth.  Companies who use TQM
also tend to move toward a team decision-making process.  Rosabeth Moss
Kanter of Harvard discusses this team approach in __When Giants Learn to
Dance__, 1989.  Spirituality is another theme that has  recently become
wedded to business transformation.  One of the best books  that I have
ever read about transforming a business is the book,  __The Soul of a
Business: Managing for Profit and the Common Good__, written by Tom
Chappell, founder of Tom's of Maine tooth paste fame.  This book describes
his own and his company's search for a way to stay focused on values that
matter, and how team work helped in the process.

Two books where women address these themes, either explicitly or
implicitly, include Joline Godfrey's book __Our Wildest Dreams: Women
Entrepreneurs Making money, having fun and doing good__ (1992), and __When
the Canary Stops Singing: Women's Perspectives for Transforming
Business__, edited by Pat Ballentine (1993).  The Canary book was named
one of the top ten business books of 1993.

What is evident from all of this is that TQM preceded what some refer to
as the First Wave of the Second Wave of Modern Day Feminism by more than a
decade.  It just wasn't known about or practiced much in the USA.  It
would be worth a study to see if TQM had any influence on rising feminist
consciousness (or vv) in Japan.  What is also evident from all these books
(and their publication dates) is that this search for quality and
team-work is a growing corporate phenomenon in the USA.  In some of these
books, there is an expressed feminist perspective, if by that one means a
clear expression for inclusiveness, equality of opportunity, concern for
people and the eco-system.  What is also clear is that these terms and
practices of them in corporate America can also be just words and efforts,
as Suzanne notes, to give people a sense that they have a say, when --in
fact -- they really don't.  Some corporate trainers (internal and
external) might engage in such practices.  I wouldn't know what numbers.
Perhaps, though, that is the power of involving people in the team-work
process itself (whether one calls it feminist, or not);  such involvement
can lead to one's own empowerment, and that itself can lead to change.

Suzanne questions whether such practices just co-opt workers. I don't
have an answer to that.  However, for me, it leads to a question of what
feminist studies/values stand for.  In 1968, just thirty years ago,  some
feminists were asking for roles as leaders of GM, DOW chemical company,
and other major US corporations.  Many of these companies were engaged in
productions for hugh military contracts.  Some of us wondered if having
women head these corps without asking how it would be different, not only
for themselves, but also for the world, it's children, and it's fragile
eco-system, was working for the wrong goal.  Birgit Brock Utne describes
these feminists seeking equality and an end to discrimination without
asking the harder life-connecting questions as people who want a bigger
share of the pie without questioning the pie recipe itself (Feminist
Perspectives on Peace Research and Peace Education, 1989).  Women now head
multinational corps.  I am not certain how well all of them would be
graded in answer to that "children and the environment" question.

Lastly, the synergistic process provides ample evidence that ideas and
concepts and even practices evolve and flow in vastly different and
seemingly disconnected parts of the world.  It seems important to remember
that what we might refer to as feminist methodologies, practices of team
building, and commitment to quality are not "owned" by feminists:  they
transend both time and gender, as well as culture and continent!

Respectfully,  and in peace,
Jacqueline Haessly   jacpeace@acs.stritch.edu     Image Peace!


On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, Suzanne E Franks wrote:

> Hello list members,
>
> I would like to know if anyone is aware of recent (or not so recent)
> feminist analyses of two prevailing trends in corporate culture:
> the total quality movement, and the "teaming" movement.
> Total quality is, as far as I understand it (being newly arrived in
> the corporate world from academia) a system of management,
> a semi-theoretical framework for doing business, and verges on
> what I would call a corporate religion in some places.  It supposedly
> focues on the process, and attributes failure not to individuals but to
> problems with the process that when identified, can be fixed.  "Teaming"
> is the concept of assembling teams to plan, manage, and carry out
> a project contracted for with a client or an internal project, rather than
> having scattered and unconnected individuals working individually
> on aspects of a project.  In both cases, some aspects of these
> movements or approaches to doing business call to mind, at least
> for me, aspects of collective work that one might expect to find
> practiced in feminist business environments.
> Perhaps I should explain how this connection arose in my mind.
> I was rereading some comic strips by Alison Bechdel, a series
> called (I think) "Servants to the Cause" about a group of gays
> and lesbians working together to put out a newspaper.
> Some of the strips have episodes of conflict resolution,
> mediation/faciltating by group members, and I was looking at
> these right after having been in a company sponsored training session
> where these kinds of concepts and the skills needed to practice them were
> being discussed.
>
> I don't mean to imply that the corporate world has suddenly gone
> feminist and collective decision making has taken over.  Rather, it
> seems to me that some of these concepts have made their way into
> corporate culture, and I do believe that they have been co-opted and
> transformed to serve the needs of capitalism.  I find this phenomenon
> fascinating and perhaps worthy of further study, and would like to
> know whether anyone else is looking into things like this, and if so,
> what sources have your found interesting/useful.  My feeling is that
> these movements are, in part, supposed to give employees more
> of a sense of power over and pride in their work, but many employees
> experience them as just another coercive attempt by the company to
> squeeze ever more labor out of the employees for the same price.
> I think there are environments where it can work well, but it can also
> be experienced as a method for convincing you to feel good about
> how hard you have to work for how little financial reward.
>
> There may also be a connection to the spread of these movements
> through corporate culture and some of the interesting results list members
> were reporting to their use of the masculinity/femininity leadership traits
> surveys in their classes.  Indeed, the expressed idea of what constitutes
> a good leader is changing in industry, though in practice, from what I
> have seen over the past six months, is that the "traditional" concept of
> a leader's personality and behavior is still very likely to be rewarded.
>
> Please reply privately unless you think this a topic likely to be of
> interest
> to other list members.
>
> Suzanne Franks
> sfranks2@compuserve.com
>
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Dear List Subscribers,
I have a mid-March deadline to get a co-edited book manuscript to a
publisher and have just learned that one of the contributors who has been
promising to send a chapter in on time, will not be able to do so.
I wonder if anyone on this list might have work-in-progress or papers that
they have already completed that could, with perhaps minor changes, be
included in this anthology.
The book is _Democratization and Women's Grassroots Movements Worldwide_
Jill M. Bystydzienski and Joti Sekhon (eds.) Publisher: Indiana University
Press.
We are seeking a chapter on South Africa or possibly another Sub-Saharan
African country. Each of the chapters focuses on women's local organizations
and activities in a different country (the countries included are India,
Singapore, Hong Kong, Syria, Egypt, Zimbabwe, El Salvador, Honduras, Russia,
Poland, Belgium, Ireland, Australia, Canada and the US). Some of the
chapters describe  and analyze one women's grassroots organization, but
others focus on several different ones. Each chapter provides some
background information or context for its country, with an emphasis on the
political and economic situation in general, and the status of women. Then
each provides a case study of a women's organization or group or action (or
several) by explaining its/their activities, organizational structure, how
women are empowered by their participation, and how this/these
organization(s) contribute to democratization.

I would need to receive the finished chapter within a month.
If you have any interest, please contact me immediately. Or if you know of
anyone not on this list who may be interested, please pass on the message.

Many thanks for your attention.

Jill Bystydzienski
Dept. of Sociology
Franklin College
Franklin, IN 46131
Tel. (317)738-8270
FAX  (317)736-6030
e-mail bustydj@franklincoll.edu
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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 15:14:51 EST
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From:         "Linda Lopez McAlister, SWIP-L Moderator"
              <HYPATIA@CFRVM.CFR.USF.EDU>
Subject:      New Film Review Added: The Tango Lesson

On Saturday, February 6, I reviewed "The Tango Lesson" on
"The Women's Show" on WMNF-FM (88.5), in Tampa, FL.  These reviews are o
now available from WMST-L's FILM FILELIST

   To obtain a copy of the article send the following command to
listserv@umdd.umd.edu:

GET FILM REV228 FILM

To obtain a list of all the files available (film reviews and articles)
send a message to the same listserv that says:

INDEX FILM

To get more than one item, put each command on a separate line:

GET FILM REV6 FILM
GET FILM REV14 FILM
GET FILM ART001 FILM

These reviews may also be obtained from the Web at URL:
http://www.inform.umd.edu/EdRes/Topic/WomensStudies/FilmReviews/
but there may be a considerable delay in their being put up on the
web site.

The opinions expressed in these reviews were mine when I wrote the
review and represent one woman's opinion at a particular time.We have
over 3000 subscribers to WMST-L so there are probably 2999 other
views.  If you would like to share yours, please do NOT do so on the
WMST-L itself, but send your messages to me personally at the addresses
below.  I have appreciated the feedback I've received.  Thanks.

Linda
<mcaliste@chuma.cas.usf.edu>

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Linda Lopez McAlister, Editor, HYPATIA; Listowner SWIP-L; Chair
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From:         Adena Cohen-Bearak <adena@GIS.NET>
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VOLUNTEERS NEEDED:

The G.I.R.L.S. Conference is a community project in Boston whose
mission is to create a comfortable space for girls and young women to
express themselves, learn leadership skills and make allies. It
targets girls between 11 to 18.  This day-long event, which will be
held June 6th,  will encourage peer leadership, community service and
celebration of female role models.

G.I.R.L.S. Conference.
Seeks girls between the ages of 15 to 19 to plan the 1998 Girls'
Conference at Simmons College in Boston, MA. This is a girl-run
event.  Call Marie at 617-482-1078, ext 232 to request an application
to serve on the planning committee.

Join G.I.R.L.S. Monthly Roundtable Discussion
for girls and adults to organize for change
Saturday, February 21 at Simmons College
10:00-1:00 p.m.
Call Marie @ 617-482-1078 Ext 232 for more info.

1998 G.I.R.L.S.  Conference
Saturday, June 6, 1998
8:00-3:30 p.m.
Simmons College
Must register by Friday, May 29! Space is limited to 300.

'98  G.I.R.L.S. Conference
c/o Girl Scouts
95 Berkeley St., 4th Floor
Boston, MA 02116
Phone:  617-482-1078 or 1-800-882-1662,  Ext. 232
Fax: 617-482-9045
E-mail: girlsconf@ptgirlscouts.org
Web Site:  http://www.gis.net/~adena/girls.htm
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 07:00:58 -0500
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From:         "dbic6066@uriacc.uri.edu" <dbic6066@URIACC.URI.EDU>
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Dear WMST-L Readers:

I have been asked by one of our WMS majors to post the following message on
wmst-l.  If you can assist this student, please respond to her directly at
[DADL2203@uriacc.uri.edu].  Do not respond to me or to the list.  Thank you
for your time.

>        Hi, my name is Dori Adler and I am presently a senior at the
>University of Rhode Island. My majors are Women's Studies and Psychology and
>I am in the process of finishing my last requirements for my Women's
>Studies' career. I am  participating in a senior Feminist Research course
>this semester and we are curently working on a group "action project". This
>project focuses on minority students in the Women's Studies program and
>their representation in the courses and the major. I am writing to you to
>find out if you could possibly send me information about your program and
>the minority representation that you currently have. Also, if you do have a
>signifigant number of minority women in your Women's Studies department-why
>do you feel that they are there and what do you think we at U.R.I could do
>to increase our minority population in our Women's  Studies program? We are
>interested in determining what are the barriers that are keeping minority
>women from entering into our classrooms and also what are the reasons that
>some women (who are involved) are attending? Any information that you could
>provide would be greatly appreciated. With your help, we can plan and
>organize an "action project" on our campus which would hopefully reach to
>the  minority women and increase our diversity in the classrooms. Thank you
>very much for your time and effort. Please email me DADL2203@uriacc.uri.edu
>at your earliest convienence. We are hoping to gather all our information as
>soon as possible. Thank you very much and if you have any questions please
>do not hesitate to email me. Thank you again, Dori Adler.
>



>
Donna M. Bickford
dbic6066@uriacc.uri.edu
Department of English and Women's Studies Program
University of Rhode Island
315 Roosevelt Hall
Kingston, RI 02881
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Calls for Papers
"Rethinking the Masters' Tools?
Institutionalizing Women's Studies in US Higher Education"

Barbara Shircliffe, Barbara Scott Winkler, and Catherine Orr

This interdisciplinary anthology will document and analyze women's =
studies from its emergence within the women's movement to its =
institutionalization in colleges and universities across the United =
States. In this context, institutionalization is understood as a complex =
and undertheorized process with historically and socially specific =
locations based on race, class, gender and sexual politics. We want the =
anthology to consider women's studies from a variety of disciplinary and =
methodological perspectives.  Therefore, submissions from any discipline =
in the humanities or social sciences are also welcome. Authors are =
encouraged to focus on one or more of the following themes.

1.    "'By, For, and About Women': Theoretical Perspectives on =
Institutionalization Women's Studies." Submissions for this section, =
through case studies and/or general theoretical discussions, may provide =
varying perspectives from which to understand the effects of diverse =
forms of institutionalization on women's studies.  Authors, however, =
should address the ways the overall process of institutionalization was =
shaped by historically and/or socially specific contexts of gender, =
race, class, and sexual orientation. =20

2.    "Building the 'Intellectual Arm of the Women's Movement': The =
Emergence of Women's Studies in Women's Liberation." Submissions for =
this section might examine the original founding individuals' and =
groups' visions and rhetorical strategies used in program building.  =
Locating the creation and development of women's studies in the goals =
and strategies of the contemporaneous women's movements, authors may =
address how the local activism shaped individual programs or departments =
vis a vis the administration, other grass roots political projects, and =
broader social struggles such as Civil Rights, Black Power, the New =
Left, and anti-colonial movements.  Authors may also trace the changing =
nature of program narratives, curriculum, and constituencies as a result =
of institutionalization, retrenchment, increased or decreased community =
involvement, internal strife, campus climate, or the success and/or =
support of other social movement-based disciplines such as African =
American, Chicano, Native American, or urban studies.=20

3.    "Political Imperatives and Strategic Choices: Women's Studies in =
Backlash Era." Submissions for this section may document internal =
institutional politics and strategies as programs simultaneously attain =
permanence and struggle against marginalization.  Authors may address =
how larger social, political, and economic forces such as the decline of =
a mass base student movement, the rise of the New Right, economic =
retrenchment, etc. as well as how local institutional politics =
complicated and transformed individual program strategies.  Authors =
focusing future oriented and retrospective lessons learned essays are =
particularly encourage to summit.
=20
Deadline for Submissions: June 15, 1998=20
Manuscript length: Approximately 8500 words.
Each submission should include a separate cover letter, abstract (250 =
word maximum), and three copies of the abstract and manuscript. =
Submissions should be mailed to Dr. Barbara J. Shircliffe, Department of =
Psychological and Social Foundations, University of South Florida, 4202 =
East Fowler Avenue, FAO 100U, Tampa, FL  33620

Email: shirclif@typhoon.coedu.usf.edu
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 07:58:02 -0800
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         "Trimberger E. KAY" <ektrim@UCLINK2.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Video on Story of Jane
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I am using The Story of Jane by Laura Kaplan in a class this semester.  It
is about the underground abortion network in Chicago before Roe vs. Wade.  I
vaguely remeber that sometime in the last year there was a film shown on
T.V. about this group.  Does anyone know the exact title and on what network
it was shown?  Does anyone know where you can get a copy of the film?  Does
anyone in the San Francisco Bay Area have a copy of it?  Thanks for your help.

Kay Trimberger
Sonoma State University
707-664-2086
ektrim@uclink2.berkeley.edu
E. Kay Trimberger
Coordinator and Professor
Women's Studies Program
Sonoma State University
707 664-2086/2840
Trimberg@Sonoma.edu
ektrim@uclink2.berkeley.edu
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 10:53:03 -0500
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Kate Phillips <cjphilli@UMICH.EDU>
Subject:      call for papers and subscriptions
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The Michigan Journal of Gender & Law seeks submissions for our Fall 1998
and Spring 1999 issues.  We welcome the contributions of the thinkers and
writers in your organization.  We also invite you to subscribe to our
journal.

MICHIGAN JOURNAL OF GENDER & LAW

The Michigan Journal of Gender & Law seeks to create a forum beyond the
confines of traditional legal discourse where activists, practitioners and
scholars can engage in interdiscipliary dialogue on issues of gender,
sexuality, race and class.  By giving voice to concerned thinkers and
writers from many fields, the Journal will foster not only the exchange of
ideas, but the development of a community.

The Michigan Journal of Gender & Law was founded in 1991 by a small group
of feminist students at The University of Michigan Law School. We have
grown to publish two issues a year which can be found in law libraries and
private collections around the world, and in legal online services.

OUR MISSION

The central mission of the Michigan Journal of Gender & Law is to create a
feminist legal publication that will help expand and develop legal
discourse beyond traditional boundaries.  The Journal is dedicated to
providing a forum for exploring how gender issues, as well as related
issues of race, class, sexual orientation, sexual identity and culture
impact the lives of women and men.  The Journal seeks to juxtapose and
interweave theoretical and practical perspectives on gender issues in order
to provide a bridge between the two.  To achieve these purposes, the
Journal will publish the views of legal scholars, activists, social
scientists, practitioners, students, and others.


PUBLICATION POLICY

 The Michigan Journal of Gender & Law accepts a variety of written works.
We are interested in both traditional and non-traditional pieces that
explore gender issues that are found in the law.   Written pieces may
include,
but are not limited to, traditional law journal articles, essays, book
reviews, briefs or other legal documents, speeches, critiques, fiction
pieces and poetry.

The Journal wishes to promote equal recognition of diverse voices and
encourage the publication of pieces based on diverse experiences and
viewpoints.   In this manner, published pieces are not distinguished on the
basis of the author's educational and/or occupational background.

SUBMISSION PROCEDURE

We require one (1) double-spaced "hard copy" manuscript only.  We suggest
but do not require an additional electronic version on 3.5" disk, in Word
7.0.
(If Word 7.0 is unavailable to you, you may submit in WordPerfect or an
older Word format) We are unable to accept email submissions.

While all published pieces must conform to The BlueBook, 16th Ed. and The
Chicago Manual of Style, we welcome submissions in other citation and style
formats.  Please use footnotes.

We select articles on a rolling basis for our semi-annual publication
dates.  We only have a few spots left for the Fall 1998 issue, which we
expect to fill by about the end of February or so.  We hope to fill the
Spring
1999 issue by the beginning of October.   We will consider a piece for the
earliest issue open at the time the piece arrives.

Additional Hints for Authors:
Please do not forget to consider your audience.  This journal writes for an
audience of mostly American lawyers, law professors and law students.
If your piece intersects other fields it should be understandable by those
that are not familiar with it.  Likewise, if your piece analyzes law, it
must
be written towards an audience of lawyers.  If you have not been to an
American law school you may wish to consult a law graduate on the
method and style of legal analysis if your piece analyzes law.

We are often asked about length requirements for submissions.  We have no
length requirements, because different types of writing would require
varying amounts of analysis.  We look for pieces that develop original
thoughts fully. Those that are research oriented pieces should show fruits
of
having researched the entire subject completely.  The average length for
accepted articles is 50-80 manuscript pages.

Please send all submissions to the following address:

 Michigan Journal of Gender & Law
 Attention: Selection Coordinator
 University of Michigan Law School
 Hutchins Hall
 Ann Arbor, MI  48109-1215


If you have further questions please contact:

selection.mjgl@umich.edu (email) or (734) 763-7378  (phone)


SUBSCRIPTIONS

We welcome new subscribers to our journal.  Please contact our Business
Manager, Maureen Bishop for more information about subscriptions.  Please
write the above postal address, email maureena@umich.edu, or phone
(734) 763-6100.  We appreciate the support of our subscribers.


Thank you very much for your interest in Michigan Journal of Gender & Law.
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Date:         Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:53:55 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Barbara Peters <BPeters@SOUTHAMPTON.LIUNET.EDU>
Organization: Southampton College of L.I.U.
Subject:      Haitian Women
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Hello,

    I wonder if anyone could direct me to some sources on women and
Haiti.  I have a Women's Studies student from there who has gotten
very frustrated trying to find research on women from her country.

Peace,
Barbara
"O wad some power the giftie gie us-
 to see oursels as others see us!"  . . . Robert Burns TO A LOUSE

Barbara J. Peters, Assistant Professor
Social Sciences Division
Long Island University - Southampton
239 Montauk Highway
Southampton, NY 11968
(516) 287-8236
FAX: (516) 287-8203
e-mail bpeters@southampton.liunet.edu
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:59:56 -0500
Reply-To:     "jgrant@tui.edu" <jgrant@tui.edu>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Jaime Grant <jgrant@TUI.EDU>
Organization: The Union Institute
Subject:      Re: Haitian Women

Edwidge Danticat's novels/stories - Breath, Eyes, Memory and Krik Krak are
 incredible.

-----Original Message-----
From:    Barbara Peters [SMTP:BPeters@SOUTHAMPTON.LIUNET.EDU]
Sent:    Tuesday, February 10, 1998 10:54 AM
To:    WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU
Subject:    Haitian Women

Hello,

    I wonder if anyone could direct me to some sources on women and
Haiti.  I have a Women's Studies student from there who has gotten
very frustrated trying to find research on women from her country.

Peace,
Barbara
"O wad some power the giftie gie us-
 to see oursels as others see us!"  . . . Robert Burns TO A LOUSE

Barbara J. Peters, Assistant Professor
Social Sciences Division
Long Island University - Southampton
239 Montauk Highway
Southampton, NY 11968
(516) 287-8236
FAX: (516) 287-8203
e-mail bpeters@southampton.liunet.edu
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 10:21:10 -0800
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Helen Irene Jones <jones@ADMIN.UNR.EDU>
Subject:      Vice President for Student Services
MIME-Version: 1.0
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I would like make known to as many potential applicants as possible that
our university is currently undergoing a search for a Vice President for
Student Services.  You can learn more about the position by looking in the
"Faculty/Staff" section of our Web page, located at www.unr.edu

The University of Nevada, Reno
is located at the base of the Sierra Nevada mountains with access to many
beautiful places.  We have a very active student services faculty and
staff, with a primary goal of supporting the academic mission of the
university through a number of innovative arrangements.  Please encourage
applications, especially from women.

Helen Jones, J.D.
Women's Resource Center
University of Nevada, Reno
jones@admin.unr.edu
tel: 702.784.4611  fax: 702.784.4607

Visit the virtual Women's Resource Center at:
http://www.unr.edu/wrc/womens html
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:35:39 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Maria Pramaggiore <maria_p@UNITY.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Video on Story of Jane
In-Reply-To:  <199802111558.HAA04710@uclink2.berkeley.edu> from "Trimberger E.
              KAY" at Feb 11, 98 07:58:02 am
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You may be referring to _Jane: An Abortion Service_, a film by
Kate Kirtz and Nell Lundy (1996).  It's 58 minutes long and is
distributed on video by Women Make Movies in NY--you can reach them at
(212) 925-0606.

It's a wonderful film--we are purchasing it for our WS program and
featuring it in our 25th Anniversary of Roe v. Wade symposium in March.

Maria Pramaggiore
North Carolina State University

Trimberger E. KAY wrote: >
> I am using The Story of Jane by Laura Kaplan in a class this semester.  It
> is about the underground abortion network in Chicago before Roe vs. Wade.  I
> vaguely remeber that sometime in the last year there was a film shown on
> T.V. about this group.  Does anyone know the exact title and on what network
> it was shown?  Does anyone know where you can get a copy of the film?  Does
> anyone in the San Francisco Bay Area have a copy of it?  Thanks for your help.
>
> Kay Trimberger
> Sonoma State University
> 707-664-2086
> ektrim@uclink2.berkeley.edu
> E. Kay Trimberger
> Coordinator and Professor
> Women's Studies Program
> Sonoma State University
> 707 664-2086/2840
> Trimberg@Sonoma.edu
> ektrim@uclink2.berkeley.edu
>






 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
 Maria Pramaggiore                       *     maria_p@unity.ncsu.edu
 Assistant Professor, Film Studies       *
 Department of English                   *     (919) 515-4138  office
 North Carolina State University         *
 Raleigh, NC  27695-8105                 *     (919) 515-1836  fax
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:28:30 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         hagolem <hagolem@CAPECOD.NET>
Subject:      Re: Video on Story of Jane
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 07:58 AM 2/11/98 -0800, you wrote:
>I am using The Story of Jane by Laura Kaplan in a class this semester.  It
>is about the underground abortion network in Chicago before Roe vs. Wade.  I
>vaguely remeber that sometime in the last year there was a film shown on
>T.V. about this group.  Does anyone know the exact title and on what network
>it was shown?  Does anyone know where you can get a copy of the film?  Does
>anyone in the San Francisco Bay Area have a copy of it?  Thanks for your help.
>
We used this video a couple of years ago and it worked very well.  It is
called Jane: an Abortion SErvice. We rented it from a place in Cambridge MA
but I would hope it would be available much closer to you.  i highly
recommend it.

i don't think it was made for television.

marge piercy  hagolem@capecod.net
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:21:50 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         "Dr. Nancy Jabbra" <njabbra@POPMAIL.LMU.EDU>
Subject:      computer viruses
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I continue to acquire computer viruses that block my machine from booting,
so then I have to run a virus scan diskette.  I suspect that they come via
e-mail, because my own diskettes are clean.  The same viruses keep turning
up, namely joshi and joshi.a, and they evidently are the problem.  I get
most of my e-mail from this list, although I can't prove that's where joshi
comes from.  At any rate, please check out your computers and floppies.
Thanks.  -Nancy Jabbra, Loyola Marymount, Los Angeles, njabbra@lmumail.lmu.edu
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:36:09 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Katherine Side <kside@ACS.RYERSON.CA>
Subject:      Re: Video on Story of Jane
In-Reply-To:  <199802111558.HAA04710@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Kay,

I am also trying to track down a copy of this video, for classroom use;
I saw the film last year at N.W.S.A., which *I think* is called 'Jane.'

And I am having a hard time, perhaps because I am looking for a copy
of the video in Canada.  My university library does not have a copy;
neither does the interlibrary loan system, or the local women's bookstore
that rents videos.

I tried calling C.A.R.A.L., and they didn't have a copy, but said
that it had been shown on public televsion in the U.S.
They also suggested that I call the U.S. National Abortion Federation,
in Washington.  Their number is:  (202) 667-5881. I have a call into the
public relations assistant, but I haven't heard back from them.

If anyone on the list knows how I might a copy of this video, I'd
appreciate hearing from them.  Please reply privately.


Thanks,

Katherine Side
kside@acs.ryerson.ca

Department of Sociology
Ryerson Polytechnic University
350 Victoria Street
Toronto, Ontario
M5B 2K3

On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Trimberger E. KAY

 wrote:

> I am using The Story of Jane by Laura Kaplan in a class this semester.  It
> is about the underground abortion network in Chicago before Roe vs. Wade.  I
> vaguely remeber that sometime in the last year there was a film shown on
> T.V. about this group.  Does anyone know the exact title and on what network
> it was shown?  Does anyone know where you can get a copy of the film?  Does
> anyone in the San Francisco Bay Area have a copy of it?  Thanks for your help.
>
> Kay Trimberger
> Sonoma State University
> 707-664-2086
> ektrim@uclink2.berkeley.edu
> E. Kay Trimberger
> Coordinator and Professor
> Women's Studies Program
> Sonoma State University
> 707 664-2086/2840
> Trimberg@Sonoma.edu
> ektrim@uclink2.berkeley.edu
>
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:52:56 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Joan Korenman <KORENMAN@UMBC2.UMBC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: computer viruses
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Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

> I continue to acquire computer viruses that block my machine from booting,
> so then I have to run a virus scan diskette.  I suspect that they come via
> e-mail, because my own diskettes are clean.  The same viruses keep turning
> up, namely joshi and joshi.a, and they evidently are the problem.  I get
> most of my e-mail from this list, although I can't prove that's where joshi
> comes from.  At any rate, please check out your computers and floppies.
> Thanks.  -Nancy Jabbra, Loyola Marymount, Los Angeles, njabbra@lmumail.lmu.edu

    Hi, folks.  The User's Guide asks that you not send messages about
computer viruses to WMST-L.  The above message should not have been sent,
but since it was, let me explain that you cannot get a computer virus from
simply reading your normal e-mail.  You will NOT--repeat, NOT--get viruses
from reading WMST-L messages.  Viruses come from executable programs, not
straight text messages.  The one kind of virus that some people may get
from e-mail is from downloading and opening some Microsoft Word
attachments.  But WMST-L messages do not include attachments, so you are
not in danger from them.

        Please, folks, DO NOT SEND MESSAGES ABOUT COMPUTER VIRUSES TO
WMST-L!!!  They merely create unfounded anxiety.  If you have a computer
virus, it didn't come from WMST-L.  Thus, there's no point in sending such
messages to the list.

        I might add that, just as people take flu shots or get
innoculations to prevent all kinds of human viruses from hurting them, so
too you should consider using a virus protection program to provide
protection for your computer.  No program is infallible, but many are very
very good.  I use Norton Anti-Virus, which provides updates every month.
It's one of several highly rated programs available.  I think the March
1998 issue of PC World has a comparison of several.  It's available online
at http://www.pcworld.com/ .

        Joan

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*    Joan Korenman                 korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu                  *
*    U. of Md. Baltimore County                                             *
*    Baltimore, MD 21250           http://www.umbc.edu/wmst/                *
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:33:55 -0700
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Joseph Boles <Joseph.Boles@NAU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Video on Story of Jane
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII

Jane: An Abortion Service is by the talented filmmaker Kate Kirtz--Our
colleagues at Women Make Movies distribute it
212-925-0606
orders@wmm.com
It rents for $90 on video and costs 4245 for purchase

Info can be found in their new catalogue--

**************************************************************************
Joseph Boles, Director
Women's Studies Program  Box 5695
Northern Arizona University
Flagstaff, AZ  86011
Joseph.Boles@nau.edu
520-523-3300
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 17:17:13 EST
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Rubina Ramji <rramji@AIX1.UOTTAWA.CA>
Subject:      Intro film on Islam
In-Reply-To:  <WMST-L%1998021107005782@UMDD.UMD.EDU>; from
              "dbic6066@uriacc.uri.edu" at Feb 11, 98 7:00 am

Hi,

I am looking for an introductory film to Islam, that includes the voices
of women.  If anyone has any ideas, please e-mail me at the address below.

Thanks
Rubina Ramji
--
      rramji@aix1.uottawa.ca                University of Ottawa

          "Tota philosophorum vita commentatio mortis est"
(To philosophise is to learn how to die) - Cicero, Tusculanae Disputationes
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 17:19:44 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Kathleen Laughlin <laughlink@MSUS1.MSUS.EDU>
Subject:      Program Administrators Pre-Conference NWSA '98
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ANNOUNCING A PROGRAM ADMINISTRATORS LISTSERV FOR NWSA '98

Logon with suggestions for plenaries and workshops for the Program
Administrators Preconference. Preconference co-chairs Sandra Squires,
University of Nebraska-Omaha, and Kathleen Laughlin, Metropolitan State
University, Minneapolis, are seeking volunteers for workshops and plenary
panels. We ask that you respond by March 15, 1998.

You subscribe to the listserv by e-mailing a message to:

majordomo@s-cwis.unomaha.edu with the following line the body of the
message (do not put anything on the subject line)
subscribe NWSA login@server
Example: subscribe NWSA squires@unomaha.edu

Program administrators can also contact the preconference co-chairs
directly at the following e-mail addresses and phone numbers:

Kathleen Laughlin
Metropolitan State University
730 Hennepin Ave.
Minneapolis, MN 55403-1897
(612) 341-7254
e-mail: laughlink@msus1.msus.edu

Sandra Squires
Department of Special Education
and Communication Disorders
University of Nebraska at Omaha
Omaha, NE 68182-0054
(402) 554-3582
e-mail: squires@unomaha.edu
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:41:49 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Joan Korenman <KORENMAN@UMBC2.UMBC.EDU>
Subject:      4 calls for papers/presentations
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    The following four calls for papers may interest WMST-L readers:

        1) CFP: Gender and Knowledge (Grad Student Conference, Rutgers)
        2) CFP: Carole Maso: The Sexuality of Narrative (1998 MLA)
        3) CFP: Sexuality & Gender in 20th Century Europe (UK)
        4) CFP: Feminist Practice in Qualitative Research (RFR)

        For more information, please contact the people named in the
announcements, not WMST-L or me.  Joan Korenman (korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu)

        *************************************************************
1) Call for Papers and Projects

The Institute for Research on Women at Rutgers University invites
submissions for its Fourth Annual Graduate Student Conference

                 --- Gender and Knowledge ---

April 3, 1998   Rutgers University, New Brunswick, New Jersey

The production, acquisition and legitimation of knowledge are gendered
processes. This interdisciplinary graduate student conference seeks to
explore, from multiple perspectives, the ways in which gender and
knowledge are mutually constitutive.

How is knowledge gendered--what is the role of gender in defining
what is known and how we know?  How do we learn about gender and
sexuality?  Do men and women acquire knowledge differently?  How are
academic disciplines created, and who creates them?  How do we
reproduce and legitimate knowledge?  What types of knowledge are
produced in various arenas?  How is gender implicated in the
transmission, advancement and reinvention of knowledge?  What
constitutes cultural knowledge?  How do we change knowledge?

We seek papers and creative projects that touch on themes relating
to gender and knowledge.  Additional focuses may include:

Gendered learning and teaching
Cultural knowledge and representation
Formation of identity and subjectivity
Cyberknowledge; "new" knowledges
Knowledge production
Libraries as gendered sites of knowledge
Technology as a vehicle for knowing
Sexuality as gendered knowledge
Gender, knowledge and power

Submission Guidelines:

Abstracts due March 2, 1998

Individual paper abstracts, panel proposals and other program
suggestions are invited.

Please include name, departmental and institutional affiliation,
address, phone number and email address.

Paper or Panel Proposals:  send three copies of a one-page abstract
detailing the proposed project.  Include paper or session title, names,
phone numbers, addresses and email addresses of all participants.  If
possible, please email additional copy to jnelson234@aol.com.
(Completed papers should be 8-12 pages in length.)

Creative projects: send three copies of a one-page abstract describing
the project as well as any slides, audio tapes or other appropriate
media.  We cannot guarantee return of these materials.

If you have questions, feel free to contact Jennifer Brier
(jbrier@eden.rutgers.edu) or Barbara Cutter (bcutter@rci.rutgers.edu).

Send all proposals to:
Graduate Student Conference
Institute for Research on Women
27 Clifton Avenue
Rutgers University
New Brunswick, NJ  08903

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2) CFP: Carole Maso: The Sexuality of Narrative
Proposed Special Session
1998 MLA in San Francisco, Dec 27-30, 1998

    Papers are solicited for a proposed Special Session at the 1998 San
Francisco MLA on Carole Maso: The Sexuality of Narrative.  This topic is
meant to embrace, in the widest terms, papers that address the ligatures
between narrative, gender, and desire in any or all of Maso's works.
Possible topics include, but are not limited to, examinations of: the
possible co-incidence of narrative desire and sexual desire; the
relationships between feminine sexualities and Maso's innovative 'lyric
narrative' or 'erotic etudes'; the status of lesbian sexualities in
Maso's works.

    Submit 2 page abstracts by March 1, 1998 to:

Grant Stirling
Department of English        phone:  (416) 736-5166 (work)
York University            fax:     (416) 736-5412
Toronto, Ontario        e-mail: stirling@julian.uwo.ca
Canada M3J 1P3

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CALL FOR PAPERS:  SEXUALITY AND GENDER IN 20TH CENTURY EUROPE
        2-3 SEPTEMBER 1998

Since 1945, European politics, economics,  society and cultural
life has been radically transformed. The growth of feminist theory
and the emergence of gay/lesbian studies in the 1960s-70s on the one
hand, and the greater interface between the humanities, social sciences
and cultural studies in the 1980s-90s on the other, provides scholars
with the opportunity to make cross-cultural comparisons on a range of
issues relating to sexuality and gender in 20th century Europe. How
have these changes, and in particular the collapse of communism in
the late 1980s-early 1990s affected sexuality and gender? This
conference invites papers on either single countries or of a
comparative  or thematic nature. Innovative or path-breaking
approaches which facilitate a fuller understanding or re-thinking of
the past, present and future trends in sexuality and gender in
contemporary Europe, East and West, are particulary welcome in ONE
of the following areas:

        Literary,cutural, historical, sociological and political
perspectives on gender issues; theorising sexuality and gender;
historicising sexuality; gender and nationality; sexual discrimination;
sexual minorities; feminism and the women's movement; gender and party
politics; youth, sexuality and gender; sexual revolution: fact or fiction?;
sexual inequality; sexuality and post-modernism; the construction of sexual
identity; sexual and gender differences; sex and violence; sexuality and
literature; ethnicity and gender; new sexual identities and values;
sexuality and citizenship; sexual identity and politics; erotica and
pornography; masculinity and femininity; bi-sexuality.

The deadline for the submission of abstracts of up to 500 words is 16
February 1998. Notification of acceptance will be given by the end of
March 1998. It is intended to publish a selection of the papers in
an edited volume with a major publisher.

Abstracts and informal enquiries in the area of history, politics and
sociology should be addressed to Dr. Christopher Williams; or
on literature and cultural studies to: Dr Petra Bagley, or Dr. Helen
Jones, Department of Languages, University of Central Lancashire,
Preston PR1 2HE; email:c.williams2@uclan.ac.uk / p.m.bagley@uclan.ac.uk /
h.l.jones@uclan.ac.uk;
tel: 01772 - 893927 or 893126; fax: 01772 - 892919 or 892909.

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4) CALL FOR PAPERS: RFR (Resources for Feminist Research, Toronto, Canada)
Feminist Practice in Qualitative Research

Papers are invited for a special issue of Resources for Feminist
Research addressing feminist practice in qualitative research. This issue
aims to be interdisciplinary in scope and international in content.

Articles should offer a reflexive critique of planning, collection
and/or interpretation phases of the research process. We encourage
submissions that explore ethical approaches to feminist research and
discuss participant observation, interview, and ethnographic models of
research from a variety of disciplinary standpoints.

Authors wishing to contribute to this special issue should forward
an abstract of the proposed paper to the editors by March 15, 1998.
Deadline for submission of finished papers is August 1, 1998.

        Dr. Diane Tye
        Department of Folklore
        Memorial University of Newfoundland
        St. John's, NF     A1B 3X8
        dtye@morgan.ucs.mun.ca

        OR

        Linda Cullum
        Department of Sociology
        Memorial University of Newfoundland
        St. John's, NF    A1C 5S7
        lcullum@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
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It is not possible to get a computer virus by reading e-mail.  You can
get it, though, when you download.  You should run everything you
download through your virus check.

Dr. Nancy Jabbra wrote:
>
> I continue to acquire computer viruses that block my machine from booting,
> so then I have to run a virus scan diskette.  I suspect that they come via
> e-mail, because my own diskettes are clean.  The same viruses keep turning
> up, namely joshi and joshi.a, and they evidently are the problem.  I get
> most of my e-mail from this list, although I can't prove that's where joshi
> comes from.  At any rate, please check out your computers and floppies.
> Thanks.  -Nancy Jabbra, Loyola Marymount, Los Angeles, njabbra@lmumail.lmu.edu
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Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 1998 22:06:06 -0500
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From:         beatricekachuck <bkachuck@CUNY.CAMPUS.MCI.NET>
Subject:      Re: corporate/collective connections
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There are very serious questions to raise in presenting TQM (Total Quality
Management) to students.
    On rewards for reporting quality problems. Students should understand
risks to whistle-blowers. The fate of Karen Silkwood, perhaps an extreme
consequence, should be recalled. And they should consider what would happen
if one of the women, almost all race/ethnic minorities, in US chicken
processing plants reported the filth on chickens that go on to stores.
    On teamwork. The point of teams in a business is for workers to cooperate
to increase the employer's profits. The product or service is not at issue,
its value to society or anyone is not considered; it could be to sell
[explitive deleted], mean speed-up, increasing pressure on workers, fleeing
to a low wage site, etc.
    As to equality of opportunity, that usually means opportunity to compete
with others, the purpose of winning, what the winner will do not at issue,
often the chance to 'go along to get along'. (Consider academic competition
for jobs, promotions, publishing, etc)
    A case in point is Rebecca Mark, CEO of Enron, a Texas-based multinational
power corporation, now moving into Pennsylvania (I think that's the state).
In India, the Alliance of People's Movements is campaigning vigorously,
focused on Enron to get it and its ilk out of the country. The objection is
environmental degradation, profit-taking such that poor people couldn't
afford the power, and taking over land where poor people live, leaving them
to move to places less viable than where they are now. A leader in the
protest campaign is Medha Patkar, the same woman who organized the campaign
that got the World Bank and the Indian government to halt the Narmada Dam
Project that was so destructive. Medha was in the US recently, developing a
global alliance of support.
    Rebecca Mark has the support of the US State Dept in India. All of us in
the US are implicated by this and whatever investment tax breaks Enron
gets.  (The same would be true for people in every country involved with
the World Bank and the IMF, currently a stand-out for profit coups in South
East Asia.) Congratulate Rebecca, a woman who 'made it', illustrating the
success of feminists' agitation? I think feminists should support Medha.
    In sum, I believe it's important for students to read the subtexts in
corporate teamwork critically, to come to grips with crucial differences in
feminist schools of thought
        beatrice    bkachuck@cuny.campus.mci.net
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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 04:24:11 -0500
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From:         Kelley Crouse <kcwalker@SYR.EDU>
Subject:      Re: corporate/collective connections
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I'll just say that I heartily agree with Beatrice on TQM,  teamwork, etc.
My research is on downsizing and middle and upper level managers.  While
the managers in my study agree that the ideas behind these practices had an
egalitarian potential, they recognize that the practices don't really
work--for a variety of reasons.

And a point that hasn't been made is that, especially for lower level
workers, who've always been protected by job descriptions, programs
associated with TQM like Continuous QUality Improvement, actually translate
into more work and less opportunity for advancement.

A good person to contact would be Vicki Smith.  She wrote _Managing in the
Corporate Interest_ which has a chapter on the feminization of the
managerial occupation.  And, at the ASA's this past summer, she presented
some of her research on a Silicon Valley firm which seemed to be rather
progressive in its practices.  While she didn't speak directly to the
issues you raise, I'm sure that, given her work in the past, it is
something that she had focused on in her research.


Best
Kelley Crouse
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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:43:10 -0500
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From:         Dolores Fidishun <dxf19@PSU.EDU>
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You may not get a computer virus from plain email but attachments can
contain viruses so it is a good idea to run a virus scan against them
before you open them.

Dolores Fidishun, Ed. D.
Head Librarian
Penn State Great Valley Graduate Center
30 E. Swedesford Road
Malvern, PA 19355
email: dxf19@psu.edu
phone:  610-648-3227
fax:  610-725-5223
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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:41:23 -0400
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From:         millerc@SNYONEVA.CC.ONEONTA.EDU
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REMINDER        REMINDER        REMINDER    REMINDER
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        FINAL DEADLINE FOR PROPOSALS  IS FEB. 17, 1998
             UNDERGRADUATE WOMEN'S CONFERENCE
                STATE UNIVERSITY COLLEGE AT ONEONTA
            TO BE HELD MARCH 27-29, 1998

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To submit a proposal, send a 200-word summary of your presentation,
together with your name, affiliation, phone, address, email, and type of
work (paper, panel, workshop, creative work) to:

Women's Studies Department
Milne 315A
State University College at Oneonta
Oneonta, NY  13820

or email:    fajaj58@oneonta.edu



The conference will be held at the State University College at Oneonta,
March 27-29.  Presentations must be undergraduate work that address some
aspect of women's lives.


Submitted by,
Cindy Miller
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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:04:26 -0500
Reply-To:     "jgrant@tui.edu" <jgrant@tui.edu>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Jaime Grant <jgrant@TUI.EDU>
Organization: The Union Institute
Subject:      community-based programs in Latin America

A friend of mine is selling the local women's bookstore after 10 years as a
bookseller and wants to go to Latin American to do community-based work.
 Does anyone know of any such programs that have a tiny stipend and could
use the labor and wits of one fine, strong feminist?  She wants to make
herself useful, and to get out of the little world she's been in for the
past decade.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Jaime Grant
Director
The Union Institute
Center for Women
Jgrant@tui.edu
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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:31:05 -0500
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From:         Ruby Rohrlich <rohrlich@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: computer viruses
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What is a virus scan? Ruby Rohrlich   rohrlich@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu

On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Dolores Fidishun wrote:

> You may not get a computer virus from plain email but attachments can
> contain viruses so it is a good idea to run a virus scan against them
> before you open them.
>
> Dolores Fidishun, Ed. D.
> Head Librarian
> Penn State Great Valley Graduate Center
> 30 E. Swedesford Road
> Malvern, PA 19355
> email: dxf19@psu.edu
> phone:  610-648-3227
> fax:  610-725-5223
>
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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:12:15 -0500
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From:         Dolores Fidishun <dxf19@PSU.EDU>
Subject:      virus scans-one last answer
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There are several packages for sale that allow you to check your hard drive
for any virus and help eliminate the virus.  The program will usually not
allow you to recover lost data.  You need back up files for that.  Although
they are not 100% fool proof ( new viruses are developed all the time)  they
can help you to find most of them.  There are a number of titles-check with
your Computer Center of local computer or business store.  McAffee and
Norton Antivirus are good ones but there are others.  There is also a fix
that you can download from the Microsoft web site that will help you to not
get the template virus that can be passed along by attachments opened in Word.
Dolores Fidishun, Ed. D.
Head Librarian
Penn State Great Valley Graduate Center
30 E. Swedesford Road
Malvern, PA 19355
email: dxf19@psu.edu
phone:  610-648-3227
fax:  610-725-5223
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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:11:26 -0500
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From:         "Donna Burnell (SOC)" <dburnell@LUNA.CAS.USF.EDU>
Subject:      socialization of women
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I need some suggestions for readings using a feminist
perspective of women's socialization/internalization of values for a
research project I'm doing. I have checked this listserve's index but did
not see any previous discussion on this. Any suggestions? Please reply
privately, unless others indicate a listwide interest.

Donna Burnell

donna burnell / university of south florida
office address:  cooper hall / room 216
tampa, florida
home phone: 813-733-844
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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:49:03 -0600
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From:         thomas robert mueller <tmueller@STUDENTS.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: socialization of women
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I would be interested in seeing any inquires on this topic on the
listserv.

Tom Mueller


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Geography
220 Davenport Hall
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On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Donna Burnell (SOC) wrote:

> I need some suggestions for readings using a feminist
> perspective of women's socialization/internalization of values for a
> research project I'm doing. I have checked this listserve's index but did
> not see any previous discussion on this. Any suggestions? Please reply
> privately, unless others indicate a listwide interest.
>
> Donna Burnell
>
> donna burnell / university of south florida
> office address:  cooper hall / room 216
> tampa, florida
> home phone: 813-733-844
>
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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 13:09:22 MST
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From:         Analouise Keating <keatinga@EMAIL.ENMU.EDU>
Subject:      Garland Press

     Hi, I have a question about Garland Press--or several questions,
     rather.  Is it considered a "scholarly" press? In other words, will
     books or articles in anthologies published by Garland help one secure
     tenure?  Or, would it be better to look for a university publisher?

     Please reply privately to me, at AnnLouise.Keating@enmu.edu

     Thanks in advance!
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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 13:01:11 -0600
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From:         Jacqueline Haessly <jacpeace@ACS.STRITCH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: socialization of women
Comments: To: "Donna Burnell (SOC)" <dburnell@LUNA.CAS.USF.EDU>
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Try Belenky, et all,__Woman's Ways of Knowing__;   Birgit Brock-Utne's
__Feminist Perspectives on Peace Research and Peace Education__,
especially the chapter on informal education, but also formal education;
and for sources of research, see Shulamit Reinharz, __Feminist Research
Methodologies__, or Judith Thompson Klein's __Interdisciplinary Research__
which both provide numerous references of research into related topics.
Peace,  Jacqueline Haessly   jacpeace@acs.stritch.edu  Image Peace!

On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Donna Burnell (SOC) wrote:

> I need some suggestions for readings using a feminist
> perspective of women's socialization/internalization of values for a
> research project I'm doing. I have checked this listserve's index but did
> not see any previous discussion on this. Any suggestions? Please reply
> privately, unless others indicate a listwide interest.
>
> Donna Burnell
>
> donna burnell / university of south florida
> office address:  cooper hall / room 216
> tampa, florida
> home phone: 813-733-844
>
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Date:         Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:34:08 -0500
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From:         Betsy Keller <elk@RCI.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject:      advice on film choices for intro class?
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I am teaching Intro to Women's Studies for the first time and could use
some advice about choosing a feature film to show my class. I am also
showing several documentary-style films, but in selecting a full-length
film I particularly wish to model the process of deconstructing a piece
of pop culture, so that when they go to the movies some of them may view
them more critically. I have been planning to show "The Women" from
1939, directed by George Cukor and starring Joan Crawford, Norma
Shearer, and Rosalind Russell. This could be useful for exploring the
age-old notion that women are natural enemies, and additionally there
are salient class and race relationships in it to be exploited. However
I am vacillating about whether this is a good choice. For one thing, it
is in black and white, and friends have suggested to me that students
tend to turn off to those films. The age of the movie also worries me.
Maybe if my ultimate goal is to teach analysis of popular culture I
should choose something that is genuinely part of their current pop
culture. Do people have suggestions about movies that  have worked well
for them?
Betsy Keller
elk@rci.rutgers.edu
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Date:         Fri, 13 Feb 1998 11:58:25 +0000
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From:         Katsue Akiba Reynolds <katsue@JIU.AC.JP>
Organization: Josai International University
Subject:      Re: gender in Chinese language
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i also wanted to know "exactly when" and i asked John DeFrancis, a
chinese language specialist who has been working on a chinese-english
dictionary, a professor emeritus of the university of hawaii, who kindly
faxed me three pages of Yuen Ren Chao's A GRAMMAR OF SPOKEN CHINESE
(University of California Press, 1968, pp641-3). YRC writes:

The borrowing of distinctions of gender in personal pronouns from
Western languages into Chinese is one of those conscious  attempts to
change linguistic usage on which much effort has been spent and only
slight changes of a marginal nature have resulted. It was about the time
of the 1917 Literary Revolution that writers began to differenciate the
third-person pronoun 'he' [character with the 'person' radical] , 'she'
[with the 'woman' radical, and 'it' . Little attention was paid to the
question of how these were to be pronounced, and most readers read all
three as 'ta' when reading aloud. During the succeeding years i myself
tried to give some linguistic status to these differentiated graphs by
proposing the forms .......


so, Naomi Stunden is right about the innovation. i guess the distinction
perhaps looked traditional to my chinese colleague since she is a
relatively young person (in her late 30s?).  being a feminist linguist,
who have been interested in the development of the distinction between
women's language and men's language in japanese, i am very much
interested in chinese women and their language. the fact that there are
several hundreds characters with the woman radical, almost all of which
have negative meanings, the food-binding, and the exclusion of women
from the use of characters seem to me very strong indications of sexism
in the chinese society in the past to say the least. also, distinction
created by the writers during the cultural revolution is not a simple
borowing from the west. the chinese writers adopted the third person
pronoun with the radical indicating 'person' as the masculine form,
shich is an exact parallet to the 'male-as-norm' semantic rule that is
typically seen in the generic use of 'man' and 'he/his/him' in English.
it is interesting that Y.R. Chao, the author of the chinese grammar
writes,"IDuring the subsequent years I myself tried to give some
linguistic status to these differentiated graphs by proposing...."  He
tried to introduce the gender distinction in spoken chinese.
this gives rise to several interesting questions concerning how sexism
is coded in languages.




Naomi Standen wrote:
>
> [Note: the quotes are edited to the extent that I took them out of all caps.]
>
> >According to a Chinese teacher, one of my colleagues, the gender
> >distinction in the third person pronouns in the writing is not a recent
> >invention, but it has existed for a long time in the history of the
> >chinese language.
>
> I'd love to know exactly when the 'female' character came into being. My
> understanding (which may be wrong) was that it was one result of the
> linguistic changes happening from the late Qing (C19) onwards, which, being
> a medieval historian, I count as relatively recent! Can your teacher give
> you a date/period to share with us?
>
> >Incidentally, several researchers have recently
> >presented the women's characters--Chinese characters invented by women
> >for the use of women when women were not allowed to write the regular
> >(for-male use) Chinese characters--a somewhat different but basically
> >similar situation was observed in Japan, too, in the beginning of the
> >development of the Japanese writing: women did not have access to the
> >standard writing system.
>
> The interesting thing here is that in China the women's language was
> unheard-of until recently (there's a good article in _Engendering China_,
> four eds including Hershatter - don't have the book to hand), whereas in
> Japan women's writing is and has been widely celebrated as, for instance,
> providing the first novel anywhere in the world (_The Tale of Genji_).
> Drawing from the same Confucian base, and with similar patterns of
> production (at least in the post-C11 Chinese ideal), the cultures have done
> entirely different things with women's writing.
>
> Now there's a research project!
>
> --
> Naomi Standen
> Department of History, Politics and Society
> University of Wisconsin-Superior
> nstanden@staff.uwsuper.edu
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To:  Colleagues
From:  Margaret Parker, Director, Women's and Gender Studies at LSU
Our program is proposing an interdisciplinary team-taught freshman-leve
course entitled Evolution of Sex.  We have support from the dean of Arts
and Sciences and will be seeking support from the dean of Basic Sciences.
We wonder whether anyone has designed such a course and what your
experience has been.  We hope to have it count toward the General
Education requirement.  Thanks for any suggestions.
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Date:         Fri, 13 Feb 1998 08:04:19 -0400
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From:         Rhoda Unger <UNGERR@ALPHA.MONTCLAIR.EDU>
Subject:      Re: socialization of women
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Could you be a little clearer about what you mean by values?  I might be able
to help, but this term is a little broad.  Thanks, Rhoda Unger
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From:         Ruby Rohrlich <rohrlich@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: science course
Comments: To: Margaret R Parker <mparker@UNIX1.SNCC.LSU.EDU>
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Getting support from the dean of Basic Science is a very good idea.
A number pf academic feminists have criticised traditional scientific
attitudes, especially the approach to integrating women as higher-level
students and in a professional capacity.  Ruby Rohrlich
research professor, anthropology department, The George Washington
University
rohrlich@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu
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Date:         Fri, 13 Feb 1998 08:24:22 -0800
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I am forwarding this request to WMST-L for a faculty member who is not
a list member.  Please send your replies to her directly.
Thanks,  Betty

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From: Sylvia Ontanedabernales <sylvia@scs.unr.edu>

I am looking for resources to use in creating a Women Studies course --
Women in the Media -- Participation and Portrayal. It will cover a lot of
ground quickly. Fifty to sixty percent will be about U.S minority women
and women in developing countries. Any suggestions? I've surfed the
internet and find much, but need some specific readings, particularly
books the students can get a hold of. I teach this course in the Fall. WS
497--Special Topics.

Any help will be appreciated.   Sylvia


Sylvia Ontaneda-Bernales
P.O. Box 13782
University Station
Reno, NV 89507
Home:(702) 348-8742
Work:(702) 348-2772 Xt. 226
sylvia@pogonip.scs.unr.edu
    Media & Communications Consulting/Publishing & Production Services
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From:         Angela Pattatucci <a_pattatucci@UPR1.UPR.CLU.EDU>
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An article published in the December issue of the Journal of Educatio=
nal
Psychology (Vol. 89, No. 4, p. 743=96751), and featured in the Februa=
ry
issue of the APA Monitor, raises serious questions about the validity=
 and
usefulness of student evaluations.  The researchers analyzed student
evaluations from 600 classes, representing the range of undergraduate
classes offered at the University of Washington. Accompanying the usu=
al
questions about the class and the professor, the evaluations also ask=
ed
students about the amount of work required in the class compared with
other classes and the grades they expected to receive in the class
compared with other classes.

The data indicate that students are biased toward faculty who give hi=
gh
grades and require the least amount of work.  The researchers found a
direct correlation between faculty that give high grades and strong
student evaluations.  Because colleges and universities tend to rewar=
d
professors with consistently strong student evaluations, this trend
translates to students truly getting something for nothing. =20

The authors identify the following disturbing implications:

=95 Low student ratings may discourage instructors from setting high
standards.

=95 Students may gravitate toward less demanding, high-grading classe=
s,
spurring a drop in the number of demanding courses.

=95 Grades may be artificially inflated because courses are less
challenging.

The researchers suggest modifying student evaluations to include how =
much
they have learned in addition to their overall satisfaction with the
course.  Call me cynical, but I suspect that student evaluations cent=
ering
on how much they have learned will be strongly tied to their satisfac=
tion,
and hence to high grades and courses that demand the least amount of =
work.
 The cycle continues.  The central issue in my mind, given the mounti=
ng
evidence that student evaluations are strongly biased, is the overall
weight that universities give to them when considering faculty for te=
nure,
promotion, or other awards.  Can anyone comment on how student evalua=
tions
are weighed?

Angela
*************************************************************
Dra. Angela Pattatucci
Universidad de Puerto Rico - Recinto de Rio Piedras
a_pattatucci@upr1.upr.clu.edu

"De poetas, tontos y locos todos tenemos un poco"=20
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Posting for someone who asked NWSA directly. Please respond to the person
listed not WMST-L  Thanks.

--------------------------
Barbara W. Gerber, Ed.D.                       1997-98 President
Distinguished Service Professor            National Women's Studies Assn.
SUNY Oswego School of Education                          Ph:315-341-3282
gerber@oswego.edu                    FAX: 315-341-3198

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Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 22:14:13 -0800
From: Debbi J-H <shutch@ivic.net>
To: NWSA@umail.umd.edu
Subject: Resources for children

Hello,
I am part of a small school in San Jacinto, Calif. and I am currently
trying to put together some resources for a unit on women in history for
all students in my school K-8th.  I want to find books at lower reading
levels that  early readers can read about women of fame and courage.  I
would also like ideas on period pieces that help give a view of the role of
young women at certain parts of time and history; such as the Witch of
Blackbird Pond.
Any ideas for catalogs or resources would be greatly appreciated.
Thank You,
Debbi Jayne-Hutchinson
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The Society for the Study of Women Philosophers (SSWP) invites proposals =
for papers at our 1998 sessions to be held Dec. 28-31 in Washington, DC, =
in conjunction with the meetings of the American Philosophical Association.=
 =20

Presentations may be on philosophical ideas in the work of women from any =
of the world's traditions and on any of the following topics:
=20
   * Ways that women philosophers, past and present, have defined          =
      what it means to be a woman and/or a woman philosopher.
    * Discovery of work by previously unrecognized women philosophers.     =
* Philosophical ideas in women poets, novelists, dramatists, etc.
    * An aspect of the thought of a recognized woman philosopher.
    * How the nature of philosophical work has been redefined through      =
      women's contributions, or needs redefinition to become more          =
           inclusive of women's contributions.
    * Reflections on experience in teaching the work of women              =
           philosophers.
    * Reflections on the interrelationship between women's lives and       =
         women's philosophies.

Send TEN copies of a two-page abstract (or copies of the paper) to: =20
     Sara Ebenreck, SSWP Program Chair
     Philosophy and Religious Studies Department
     St. Mary's College of Maryland
     St. Mary's City, MD 20686
     E-mail:  sebenreck@osprey.smcm.edu
   =20
DEADLINE:   APRIL 15, 1998.   =20
 =20
Complete papers should be times for 45 minues or less, including discussion=
  Papers and proposals will be anonymously reviewed by the SSWP board.  =
Notification of acceptance will be made by early summer 1998. =20
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Reply-To:     A J M Colson <acolson@sky.lakeheadu.ca>
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From:         A J M Colson <ajmcolson@LUSIAS.ORG>
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I am writing as the administrator of the Lakehead University Summer
Institute for Advanced Studies. You might be interested in the courses
offered by this Graduate Summer Institute.

Lakehead University Summer Institute for Advanced Studies
http://www.lusias.org

The Lakehead University Summer Institute for Advanced Studies offers
graduate courses in the use of computing technologies for research in the
humanities and social sciences. These courses would interest those scholars
concerned to integrate the theories and methods of hypermedia into their own
research in women's studies. This Graduate Summer Institute aims to promote
and create a research environment where students can work with professional
staff and researchers from leading institutions across the world. Students
first learn about Hypermedia technologies, and then have the option to apply
them to their own research materials. There are two sessions to choose from
and all courses are taught at Lakehead University in Thunder Bay, Ontario,
Canada.

The MacKenzie Ward Trust is collaborating with Lakehead University in
organizing this innovative Graduate Summer School in 1998. The courses
offered at LUSIAS aim to bridge the gap between technologies and the social
sciences. The explosion of digital information has not yet been accompanied
by a similar growth in software tools to manage and organize digital data.
Hypermedia technologies offer the potential to resolve these information
management problems. They will enable students to investigate issues from
new angles and invite new ways of molding and presenting their research
materials. The completion of courses allows students to gain graduate level
credits or they can be used to further professional training.

There are two sessions in 1998:

Session I: May 11th to 30, 1998

Session II: July 6th to 25th, 1998

If you have any questions please contact:

Alicia Colson
LUSIAS Administrator

ajmcolson@lusias.org
http://www.lusias.org
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Does anyone have an e-mail address for Dr. Shiva.  I have a FAX # but it
doesn't seem to be connecting.
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The Michigan Women's Studies Association's 25th anniversary conference
will be held at Saginaw Valley State University, near I-75, just north of
Saginaw, Michigan, on April 3-4, 1998.

The topic is WOMEN & HEALTH CARE: LOCAL, NATIONAL & GLOBAL.

For more information, go to http://www.svsu.edu/englishinfo/mwsa.htm
on the Web or e-mail Rosalie Riegle.

If you or your group has a Web page, we would much appreciate your
inserting a link to this location, to help your members and constituents
get our information.  It can be removed after April 4, 1998.

Thank you!

Rosalie Riegle and the MWSA Conference Planning Committee, Saginaw Valley
State University
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Dear Friends:  Given the conversation lately on the list, I thought you'd all
be interested in this timely topic for a WOMEN'S STUDIES QUARTERLY issue.  The
general editor now is Janet Zandy, and the issue is published with the help of
Rochester Institute of Technology where Janet teaches.  Sara Cahill is the
managing editor, out of The Feminist Press office.  And each issue has guest
editors.  If you are interested in proposing or editing (co-editing) a future
issue on a timely topic, write to Janet Zandy in the English department at RIT
(e-mail: JNZGSL@RIT.edu); or to me, and I will forward.  Cheers, Florence Howe
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Dear Florence, Can you please post this call on the UMD Listserve? Thanks
very, very much. Sara


Call for Papers
Women's Studies Quarterly
Women's Studies and Activism: Theories and Practice
Edited by Diane Lichtenstein and Colette Hyman

Women's Studies Quarterly is now seeking submissions for a special issue
entitled Women's Studies and Activism: Theories and Practice, slated for
publication in spring/summer 1999. The issue will focus on the relationship
between feminist activism and academic women's studies, with an emphasis on
how and what to teach undergraduates about this relationship. The purpose of
the issue is twofold: first, to provide women's studies scholars and
teachers with new theoretical perspectives on the interconnections between
"theory" and "practice" and to re-examine that dichotomy itself; second, to
assist women's studies teachers in integrating practical as well as
philosophical questions regarding feminist social change work into women's
studies courses. Toward these ends, the editors are seeking articles
exploring the "practice"/"theory" nexus, discussions of classroom strategies
from teachers who have attempted to make the connection between activism and
academe, and statements from activists about how their work for social
change benefitted from their education in women's studies and/or how the
field of women's studies could make itself more useful to direct social
change activism. Issue editors are Colette Hyman, associate professor of
history and former director of women's studies, Winona State University, and
Diane Lichtenstein, professor of English and former co-chair of women's
studies, Beloit College. Please submit by September 1, 1998 a disk and two
hard copies of essays no longer than 15 typed, double-spaced pages to Diane
Lichtenstein, Department of English, Beloit College, 700 College Street,
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Weight of student evaluations for tenure, promotions? My observations over
28 years in CUNY has been that they are part of the political process in
these matters, i.e., they weigh as much as the judges want them to, given
other reasons for retaining or promoting and the number of slots available.
        beatrice    bkachuck@cuny.campus.mci.net
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From:         DAPHNE PATAI <daphne.patai@SPANPORT.UMASS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Student Evaluations
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I agree entirely with Beatrice.  I, too, have seen teaching
evaluations used every which way depending on the underlying desires
of the committee looking at them.  I would say that in cases of utter
disaster or utter brilliance the game is harder to play, but most
teaching evaluations have at least some mixed messages, and these
allow ample space for particular arguments to be made.  DP
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From:         Barbara Winkler <WINKLER@WVNVAXA.WVNET.EDU>
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Last week in my Intro class I did a section on Women and Education.
According to some of the research, women and men have different learning
styles that often disadvantage women in the U.S. classroom - women
are said to be more comfortable with cooperative learning than the
competitive style of men, etc.  My question emerges from a student
who is from India who questioned whether these differences are
culturally based.  I was wondering if anyone had info on women's
learning styles in other cultures, especially India?  Thanks for
your help.  Barbara Scott Winkler  bwinkler@wvu.edu
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Hi Folks:

        I hope that some of you interested in women playwrights and the
American South will consider submitting to this volume.  My colleague and I
are greatly excited about it.

Linda Rohrer Paige

                                       CALL FOR CONTRIBUTORS

                                     SOUTHERN WOMEN PLAYWRIGHTS:
     NEW ESSAYS IN LITERARY HISTORY, CRITICISM, AND PERFORMANCE

     Contributors are sought for a collection of new essays on Southern
women                 playwrights to be published by the University of
Alabama Press.

                               The editors solicit submissions exploring:

                                                      *   *   *
        The sources and causes of the traditional neglect of Southern
women's drama, including new-historical considerations of the place of
women's writing and performance in the South;

        Thematic issues, such as treatments of archetypes and stereotypes
and intersections of race, class, and gender;

                                                         or

        Generic topics, including the ways in which contemporary performance
theory, particularly feminist, might help to illuminate the achievement of
these playwrights.

                                                       *   *   *
        We welcome submissions on all Southern women playwrights, especially
on authors other than Lillian Hellman, Beth Henley, and Marsha Norman.

Send inquiries, completed papers (20 pages maximum), or detailed proposals
(2-3 pages) to either editor by by June 1, 1998:

Robert L. McDonald                              Linda Rohrer Paige
Department of English and Fine Arts      Department of Literature and
Philosophy    Virginia Military Institute                        P. O. Box 8023
Lexington, Virginia 24450                      Georgia Southern University
mcdonaldrl@vmi.edu                             Statesboro, Georgia 30460-8023
                                                           lpaige@gsaix2.cc.
gasou.edu

Linda Rohrer Paige
Associate Professor
Department of Literature and Philosophy
P. O. Box 8023
Georgia Southern U.
Statesboro, GA 30460-8023
Ph. 912-681-0222
FAX: 912-681-0653
e-mail: lpaige@gsaix2.cc.gasou.edu    or
           lpaige@gsvms2.cc.gasou.edu
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At 12:33 PM 2/13/98 -0600, you wrote:


>Accompanying the usual

>questions about the class and the professor, the evaluations also=20
asked

>students about the amount of work required in the class compared with

>other classes and the grades they expected to receive in the class

>compared with other classes.


<paraindent><param>left</param>Frankly, it is my view that ALL
evaluations ought to ask these questions.  And, more importantly, that
they then be used in the process of interpreting the prof's evals.  Oh
stop me, I'm waxing utopian!

</paraindent>

>Because colleges and universities tend to reward

>professors with consistently strong student evaluations, this trend

>translates to students truly getting something for nothing. =20


<paraindent><param>left</param>Consumer driven, Total Quality Management
in operation!

</paraindent>

>The authors identify the following disturbing implications:

>

>=95 Low student ratings may discourage instructors from setting high

>standards.


<paraindent><param>left</param>Yup.  So does student whining, grade
grubbing, and a line of students outside my office wanting to know if
there's 'any way you can reconsider the grade you've given me.  I really,
really need an A in this class, 'cause I'm failing (failed) Chemistry"

</paraindent>

<paraindent><param>left</param>I dunno, but I always wonder why they
aren't sitting in their Chemistry professor's office.

</paraindent>

>=95 Grades may be artificially inflated because courses are less

>challenging.


<paraindent><param>left</param>Really?  Who knew!?  Also, because you'd
like to avoid above:  whining and grade grubbing.

</paraindent>

>Can anyone comment on how student evaluations

>are weighed?


<paraindent><param>left</param>I agree with Beatrice and Daphne that they
are highly politicized and highly subjective.  Still, what I suspect
happens and my spin on what I've seen happen is that the 'climate'
changes subtly.  Standards are lowered in response to the rhetoric from
the administration, particularly if that rhetoric draws on the language
of TQM and the belief that quality improves when the production process
is driven by consumer demand.  Bleh!  There is the perception that one's
evaluation will be given weight and thus there is, in an anticipation, a
tendency to do whatever one can to ensure that one's evaluations indicate
that one is 'doing a good job'   The path of least resistance, then, is
clearly to either 1). spend a lot of time being really good at teaching
(and probably deflecting one's attention from publishing and service) or
to 2).  ratchet down expectations and courseloads in an effort to, yup,
please the customer and get good evals. Not much of a choice.   Really,
if Nissan were to study academia and put these principles in action, then
they'd be making cars that got 100miles to the gallon, lasted years with
no signs of wear and tear, were comfortable in every way, cost under 10k,
and pumped their own gas!

</paraindent>

Kelley, taking the opportunity to gripe at mid-term



>

>Angela

>*************************************************************

>Dra. Angela Pattatucci

>Universidad de Puerto Rico - Recinto de Rio Piedras

>a_pattatucci@upr1.upr.clu.edu

>

>"De poetas, tontos y locos todos tenemos un poco"=20

>*************************************************************

>

>
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From:         DAPHNE PATAI <daphne.patai@SPANPORT.UMASS.EDU>
Subject:      Nissan and student evaluations
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But, Kelley, the result would be better/cheaper cars, right? Whereas
in academe, you're right, the result seems to be worse teaching.
There has also been a study (can't remember author now, sorry) showing
that students evaluate professors based on how much professors seem to
conform to students' own ideas.  Since students often don't understand
when a professor plays devil's advocate, or tries, for the sake of
historical accuracy and intellectual integrity, present a position
that isn't the prof's own view, the students regularly misunderstand
what's going on and express odd evaluations not of the prof's teaching
but of what they take to be the professor's beliefs.  No question the
net result is worse teaching, grade inflation, and a generally
spreading rot through the academy.
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From:         Kelley Crouse <kcwalker@SYR.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nissan and student evaluations
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At 04:58 PM 2/14/98 -0500, you wrote:
>But, Kelley, the result would be better/cheaper cars, right?


Sort of, but this assumes that this is our only need or desire.  While the
Japanese  model *might* be comparatively superior to the older US model, it
isn't clear that it's preferable if we start to ask different sorts of
questions.

First, from a consumer perspective Nissan makes superior cars, but only if
we believe that the only thing consumers want is better/cheaper cars.  In
other words, what Nissan cannot do--precisely because it operates in a
capitalist market--is provide the conditions under which we might ask other
questions: "are cars (private transportation) even a good thing, in the
long run?"  Instead, they give us choices, perceived as freedom, within a
limited range of consumer options.  We get some ability to provide feedback
insofar as we are consumers of cars, but we do not get the opportunity to
ask bigger questions insofar as we are citizens who might also ask:  "how
much are your employees paid?"  "do they have truly meaningful work?" "do
we really want to produce cars and further pollute the earth?"

Second, from the perspective of workers there has been some research that
indicates that workers are completely stressed out under these conditions,
despite US based management rhetoric to the contrary.  It's not clear that
this model, then, is such a good thing.  It might produce superior cars,
but at what cost?  One need only look at the results of this model as it
has been applied to firms like Microsoft to see the toll on human life it
takes.  They have lots of autonomy and creative input on the job, but they
work very long stressful hours and do not go to their children's soccer games.

Finally, Nissan has no interest in *completely* catering to consumer
demands, whereas universities do have some interest in catering to *some*
student demands.  The interests of corporatons and consumers are
fundamentally opposed.  One wants to sell the most products, for the
highest price, with the lowest amount of investment in the product.  The
other wants the best product, at the lowest price, with the least amount of
hassle.  In contrast, the adminstration of a university and its
students--though increasingly conceived of as consumers--are not at such
loggerheads in terms of their structural locations within the organization
or, more broadly, within the institution of academe.  Universities want the
most tuition monies as possible (among other sources of 'income') with the
least amount of investment in labor and overhead.  Students--and admittedly
this is a generalization--want the to pay the least amount of tuition
possible, get the best grades possible for their tuition investment, with
the least amount of work. And, like capitalist firms, universities also
have no interest in broadening students' understandings of their needs and
desires so that they might start to ask what a meaningful education is or
should be.  To do so might mean greater expenditures and investment in
teaching, a notoriously labor-intensive enterprise if there ever was one.

Now, I must add a caveat about where I'm coming from.  In no way do I hold
all students morally culpable for their self-interested positions with
regard to education.  Surely, some students come to college wanting the
best, most challenging education possible and do not need to read Adrienne
Rich's commencement speech on claiming an education.  Just as surely, some
students *are* indeed morally culpable and do come to school looking to
make the grade at any cost, wholly uninterested in the edifying
possibilities of a college education.  The vast majority, however, are
caught in the middle of an overly rationalized, bureaucratized,
increasingly profit-motivated system of schooling that sees them as merely
"tuition bearing beings" -- a system bound to alienate them every step of
the way.  We shouldn't be surprised that they behave the way they do at times.

Daphne, if you or anyone else knows the refs for that study, I'd appreciate
it if you could forward it.

Thanks for asking me to clarify this. These ideas have been percolating on
the back burner for awhile, but I haven't had the opportunity to force
myself to think them through.  I now know how I'm going to organize that
article I have to submit by March 1st!

Kelley


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I appreciate the insights from some of the seasoned faculty
on this list regarding the politics of weighing teaching
evaluations.  My question is, what should one do when
it becomes obvious that  the political game is afoot?   I
am in my second year of teaching at a small liberal arts
college.  My professional accomplishments have been
outstanding (i.e., I published a book & two journal articles
in the past year & already have a research grant for the
summer.).  My department is extremely pleased with me.
 I have been actively involved in college life.  My tenure
track contract was renewed; however, I received a very
critical assessment from the Committee on Faculty.  The
sole ground the committee gave for this less-than-admirable
assessment was student evaluations; however, a thorough
review of my student assessments does not back up such
an assessment.  For example, I was verbally  charged by my dean
with "going off the syllabus."  Now one could readily argue
that to do this is not exactly a major academic crime & can
be, in fact, warranted by class dynamics, etc; however,
the fact is, I did not "go off the syllabus" in any of my courses.
Looking at my course reviews from all students, I found that
only one student out of all the students who evaluated me
made such a claim; yet, this one student's comment was
taken as 'gospel' by the committee & charged as a failing
on my part.  The fact that the vast majority of the students
in my courses rated me as "outstanding" was, although
mentioned by the dean in his opening remarks, totally
discounted in the committee's overall assessment.   Thus,
I concur that there is a politics to weighing student evaluations.
My question is, what are the most effective tactics to employ
in responding to it?    Thanks for any advice, etc.

Brenda E. Brasher
Mount Union College
brashebe@muc.edu
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Brenda's example of one negative comment being pickedup and amplified
as if it represented average opinion was precisely the sort of thing I
had in mind when I spoke of the way committees (and individuals) can
"use" evaluations every which way.  One suggestion--but I'd like to
hear whether others think this is counter productive--is to write a
letter pointing out that one comment has been given undue weight, and
providing a more objective oversee of what the evaluations as a whole
show.  This example (of going "off" the syllabus)
 is another way in which teaching evaluations
contribute to poorer teaching. I have been made aware that students
hate it when a change is made in the syllabus, even if it's both
necessary and beneficial (say, the result of some missed days, or of
realizing that this particular gorup would students would benefit more
from something other than was planned for week 6, or whatever). I
believe in general teachers need to speak up more in defense of their
own autonomy and responsibility over their own classrooms.
--
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Daphne.Patai@spanport.umass.edu
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    I have had similar problems with teaching evaluations.  My
evaluations have improved over the course of 4 terms.  During my recent
evaluations, it was suggested that they improved because I was making the
test component of the grading scheme less than 50% and using active
learning and cooperative learning exercises in the classroom.  However,
where I had the most improvement, the General Education Chemistry classes,
the course was entirely test based.  Yet I was accused of having too
difficult tests for those GenEd classes.
    So, it is very apparent that your evaluators are biased and will
pick and choose what they want to believe.  It is not a fair assessment
since they have inside knowledge from disgrunted students and the ones who
say, "hey I am learning alot from Dr. Koether" are dismissed.
    I have a question!!!
    Do males instructors who are very formal at all times get better
evaluations than female instructors who actually learn the names of their
students and talk to them in and out of class on all subjects?
    Or more simply...Do male instructors get better evaluations than
female instructors?
    By the way, students do come to Chemistry instructors and ask for
a grade change too.
Marina
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I know there is research on this subject and much controversy.  My own
personal observation is that the best evaluations typically go to men
who are easy graders and very friendly and accessible to their
students.  Much the same is, I expect, true of female teachers.
Sometimes it's quite clear one valuations what's going on - when
student after student has almost nothing to say about the course but
does comment what a "great guy" or "terrific person" the teacher is -
whatever the gender.  I stopped putting much stock in teaching
evaluations long ago when my students couldn't even decide with any
unaninimity whether I got to class on time or what was the language of
instruction.  Ho hum.  D.
--
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I wonder if it might help to refer to these evaluations as "student
evaluations" rather than "teaching evaluations" in order to emphasis that
teaching might be evaluated in other ways as well. I as well as others
often call them "teaching evaluations" but I am increasingly suspicious of
this label.

It seems to me that this consumer model of education (student as primary
evaluator) makes teaching critical thinking in the classroom more risky.

Eloise Buker
Denison University

On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Brenda Brasher wrote:

> I appreciate the insights from some of the seasoned faculty
> on this list regarding the politics of weighing teaching
> evaluations.  My question is, what should one do when
> it becomes obvious that  the political game is afoot?   I
> am in my second year of teaching at a small liberal arts
> college.  My professional accomplishments have been
> outstanding (i.e., I published a book & two journal articles
> in the past year & already have a research grant for the
> summer.).  My department is extremely pleased with me.
>  I have been actively involved in college life.  My tenure
> track contract was renewed; however, I received a very
> critical assessment from the Committee on Faculty.  The
> sole ground the committee gave for this less-than-admirable
> assessment was student evaluations; however, a thorough
> review of my student assessments does not back up such
> an assessment.  For example, I was verbally  charged by my dean
> with "going off the syllabus."  Now one could readily argue
> that to do this is not exactly a major academic crime & can
> be, in fact, warranted by class dynamics, etc; however,
> the fact is, I did not "go off the syllabus" in any of my courses.
> Looking at my course reviews from all students, I found that
> only one student out of all the students who evaluated me
> made such a claim; yet, this one student's comment was
> taken as 'gospel' by the committee & charged as a failing
> on my part.  The fact that the vast majority of the students
> in my courses rated me as "outstanding" was, although
> mentioned by the dean in his opening remarks, totally
> discounted in the committee's overall assessment.   Thus,
> I concur that there is a politics to weighing student evaluations.
> My question is, what are the most effective tactics to employ
> in responding to it?    Thanks for any advice, etc.
>
> Brenda E. Brasher
> Mount Union College
> brashebe@muc.edu
>
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I'm in the midst of writing a paper on Martha Stewart as an example of
adult education in the 1990's.  I've not had much luck finding sources
outside of the internet and Martha's books/magazines/TV show/web site
addressing her as a positive example, let alone an exmple of feminism.
Does anyone know of sources I should look at?  What are folks thoughts
about her current success and visibility?

Carla Randall
mergalan@unixg.ubc.ca
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I published a study nearly 20 years ago that found that women faculty
members were penalized in their teaching evaluations for being rigorous
while there was no effect on the teaching evaluations of men.  These data
were collected from real teaching evaluations so I tend to believe them.
I have cited this study before on wmst which has had similar discussions on
this topic in the past.  I suspect there is a file and, perhaps, Joan can
tell us if this is true.  Thanks, Joan.
Rhoda Unger
ungerr@alpha.montclair.edu
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I don't know if it will be useful to you or not, but there was a long
article on Stewart in the Sunday NY Times. I think it was the
Business/Money section of 2/8/98.
========================
CE Randall/D Lynne wrote:
>
> I'm in the midst of writing a paper on Martha Stewart as an example of
> adult education in the 1990's.  I've not had much luck finding sources
> outside of the internet and Martha's books/magazines/TV show/web site
> addressing her as a positive example, let alone an exmple of feminism.
> Does anyone know of sources I should look at?  What are folks thoughts
> about her current success and visibility?
>
> Carla Randall
> mergalan@unixg.ubc.ca

--
Bev Ayers-Nachamkin
Dept. of Psychology
Wilson College
1015 Philadelphia Ave.
Chambersburg, PA 17201
bayersna@epix.net
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Are there any demographers out there who could tell me where to find an
article or two  (comprehensible to the nonspecialist)  on the  "missing
girls" or "missing women" in the statistics of some countries ie, there is
not (or were not)  as many  females in the population as one would expect?

I'm not thinking of modern China with the one child policy, but examples
where the causal factors may be less immediately obvious.

I've been reading an historical demographer who claims that low numbers of
females in an indigenous  population last century were simply the result of
maternal mortality, while many  historical sources (by Western observers)
say that female infanticide was a contributing factor.  & I'm lookingfor
some comparative material to try to evaluate his argument.


Thank you.
Adele Fletcher
University of Canterbury
a.fletcher@phil.canterbury.ac.nz
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On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Rhoda Unger wrote:

> I published a study nearly 20 years ago that found that women faculty
> members were penalized in their teaching evaluations for being rigorous
> while there was no effect on the teaching evaluations of men.  These data
> were collected from real teaching evaluations so I tend to believe them.
> I have cited this study before on wmst which has had similar discussions on
> this topic in the past.  I suspect there is a file and, perhaps, Joan can
> tell us if this is true.  Thanks, Joan.

There are I think 2 files, EVALS1 and 2 -- sorry to pretend to
be you, Joan! -- that can be retrieved in the usual way.


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Judy Evans          jae2@york.ac.uk
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The demographer who is known for work in this area is Amartya Sen.
I would search for that name in a standard bibliographic search
source.

I'm not a demographer, so not familiar with all his publications.

You might also search the journals DEMOGRAPHY or POPULATION STUDIES or
POPULATION AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW.


M.A.  Lamanna>  mlamanna@cwis. unomaha.edu


> Are there any demographers out there who could tell me where to find an
> article or two  (comprehensible to the nonspecialist)  on the  "missing
> girls" or "missing women" in the statistics of some countries ie, there is
> not (or were not)  as many  females in the population as one would expect?
>
> I'm not thinking of modern China with the one child policy, but examples
> where the causal factors may be less immediately obvious.
>
> I've been reading an historical demographer who claims that low numbers of
> females in an indigenous  population last century were simply the result of
> maternal mortality, while many  historical sources (by Western observers)
> say that female infanticide was a contributing factor.  & I'm lookingfor
> some comparative material to try to evaluate his argument.
>
>
> Thank you.
> Adele Fletcher
> University of Canterbury
> a.fletcher@phil.canterbury.ac.nz
>
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On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Mary Ann Lamanna wrote:

> The demographer who is known for work in this area is Amartya Sen.
> I would search for that name in a standard bibliographic search
> source.

Add "famines" or "development" -- esp. the latter -- and I think
you'll get near the right book -- he's written rather a lot!
The one you really want was reviewed in the New York Review
of Books some while back.

> I'm not a demographer, so not familiar with all his publications.

It isn't my field either.  A development economist might know,
or even a mathematical economist, because they will know more
about Sen.

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Judy Evans          jae2@york.ac.uk
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I want to apologize to the list: I've been waiting for several months to
announce the 25th Anniversary issue of Women's Studies Quarterly, even though
I've known from the mail that comes and goes across this list, that it would
answer a great many questions that keep coming up.  I've waited because The
Feminist Press has been trying to get its WEB up and running since last
December.  We finally moved in late July, unfortunately into a landmark
building on the City College campus with very poor wiring.  We are still
having problems, but we hope to solve them by January (still more bad wires in
the building!).
    So I am simply going to say that the 25th Anniversary Issue of WSQ, edited
by the late Elaine Hedges and Dorothy Helly, recapitulates the history of
Women's Studies by printing 400 pages of material from the issues beginning in
1972, including early reports from Programs all over the country, as well as
the history of the NWSA, begun in the pages of WSQ, and then from WSQ's
subscriber base, as WSQ committed itself to helping the organization to get
established.
     In addition to this history, the issue includes a long essay by Judith
Allan that is critical of current trends; a shorter essay by Ann B. Shteir on
graduate programs; a long essay by Florence Howe on trends and problems
worldwide; and an Introduction by Hedges and Helly.  It's over 500 pages and
worth $18.00.  Or for $30.00 you can subscribe for 1997 and get the issue
about to appear: Teaching African Literatures in a Global Literary Economy,
edited by Tuzyline Jita Allan.
      Your other option is to take a three-year sub for $70.00.  Next year,
the two issues are: Working Class Studies, edited by Renny Christopher, Lisa
Orr, and Linda Strom; and Internationalizing the Curriculum, edited by Deborah
Rosenfelt.  Janet Zandy of the Rochester Institute of Technology is now the
Editor of the WSQ, and in 1999, the two issue scheduled are Women and the
Environment; and Women, Science, and Technology.  So the three-year sub is a
bargain. Institutional rates are $40 for one year; $100 for three years.
        When we get onto the Web, I'll let you know at once.  We will have a
special section devoted to THE WOMEN'S GUIDE TO THE WIRED WORLD, edited by
Shana Penn, also just out.
         To order by phone: 212-650-8966     To talk to me: 212-650-8147
          To phone in general: 212-650-8890    To FAX: 212-650-8893

Thanks for listening:  Florence Howe    florench @aol.com
Nancy A. Barta-Smith
Department of English--314 Spotts World Culture
Slippery Rock University
Slippery Rock PA 16057
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Wollstonecraft
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Marina corrected me:

>    By the way, students do come to Chemistry instructors and ask for
>a grade change too.

Many apologies.  This happened last term, so the particular example was on
my mind.  My point isn't so much that they see a sociology/women's studies
prof as more accessible and, perhaps, manipulable than a chemistry
professor.  Rather, my point is that they actually have the nerve to tell
me that they need in a good grade in my class to balance the poor grade in
another class.  But I am curious now.  Do they ask you to change the grade
by telling you they're failing another course--whatever that might be?

Best,
Kelley
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On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Kelley Crouse wrote:
> Marina corrected me:
> >    By the way, students do come to Chemistry instructors and ask for
> >a grade change too.
> Do they ask you to change the grade
> by telling you they're failing another course--whatever that might be?

    Some want to keep a grade point average to stay in the honors
program, others just want to see what they can get out of you.
    One student asked if I would change 2 D's I gave her to 2 C's for
three months so that her grades would look good to the judge and I am
sure financial aid.  She was going through a divorce.
    It is my perception that Chemistry grades are more cut and dry
than sociology grades  -  I am wrong here Kelley?

Marina
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This is not an answer to Brenda's questions, but questions of my own there
were prompted by hers, and by an afternoon spent two years or so ago, when we
were just getting to know each other, with a group of local alumnae from my
all women students  undergraduate institution.  We had another gathering with
new people joining what had become our "old" group in Oct. this year and the
same phenom. recurred. I imagine it does whenever alums. get together for the
first time.

We talked about our teachers.

The group represents women from the classes of '47 thru '85 (many many gaps,
and the majority of us are from various '60s classes).  Every one of us has at
least one, most of us two degrees beyond the B. A.  Every one of us has, at
one time or another, been involved professionally in the academic world at
some level, in some capacity.

First we talked about the pain and shock we each experienced in freshman comp.
It seemed to us, all these years, decades, later, that the purpose of the
course had been not to teach us anything except that we weren't very good,
weren't as good as we had been led to believe by our high school experiences,
and had no business thinking that we were "good" writers.  Most of us
commented on the fact that the cruelty of the experience had left us with some
sort of writing block for some length of time -- some of them never required a
sense of ease and facility writing.  There was a radical division between
those who remembered EXACTLY the name and appearance of our fresh. comp.
teachers and those who had no more idea of who had been in front of that
classroom than they knew who had first used a sharpened stone as a knife to
kill another human being.  (This made us think and talk about recovered
memories and accusations of false memory syndrome, etc.)

Then we began talking about the teachers we had loved, the courses we had
loved.
It was teaching/.teacher/course evaluation time!  And delivered with the
benefit of many years' distance from the experience.

I won't go into anymore detail, but I will tell you this: almost none of us
had revised our original evaluations of our teachers.  As women in our 30s,
40s, 50s, 60, and 70s, we discovered that the opinions/conclusions we had
arrived at when we were 16-22 about these important people in our lives had
not changed in the ensuing years, had become, if anything, stronger.  The
teachers we had loved, the classes we had enjoyed, were the ones that had been
the most intellectually and emotionally useful to us over all the years.

Susan Koppelman  <<huddis@aol.com>>
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In a message dated 2/15/98 4:41:59 PM, Marina wrote:

<< During my recent
evaluations, it was suggested that they improved because I was making the
test component of the grading scheme less than 50% and using active
learning and cooperative learning exercises in the classroom. >>

I find this very interesting. I have always used active & cooperative learning
exercises, but they don't necessarily result in good evaluations. Some of my
students have complained "and I had to teach the whole course to myself!"

Some students love that stuff. Others gripe constantly that they just want to
know what I want them to do so they can do it. They would rather take
objective tests than make decisions. It's not until they get out into the
working world that they appreciate what I did for them.

Georgia NeSmith, Phd
--Writer, Editor, Writing Coach, Poet, Photographer, Artist
--Proprietor, The Writers' Edge and RubyToozdy Productions
--Adjunct professor Rochester Institute of Technology
gnesmith@aol.com
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From:         Margo Okazawa-Rey <mor@SFSU.EDU>
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For all interested in Jane Story video, I am sending following information
about the video and about Judith Arcana, one of the early members of the
group, who is available to speak to your classes.



             ABORTION EDUCATION/CONSCIOUSNESS RAISING


An excellent documentary film, its creation partially funded by a grantfrom
PBS, is finally making its way onto public television screens, but may not
yet have been scheduled for viewing in your region or city.=20

"Jane: An Abortion Service" has been shown on PBS in many cities,especially
around the time of the 25th Roe v. Wade anniversary in January of '98.
Written and directed by Nell Lundy and Kate Kirtz, shown at the Sundance,
LA and New York film festivals among others, screened at NWSA in
its first year out, "Jane" waited two years after its premiere in Chicago
to actually make it onto the small screen.

"Jane" tells the story of a small underground counseling/clinic service
that functioned for four years in Chicago before abortion was "legal" in
the USA. The filmmakers encourage (and are sometimes able to attend)
screenings to benefit abortion clinics and related groups.  Likewise, some
former Janes, like me, may be available to visit and talk with your group.

Copies of the tape can be purchased "for educational use" - call
212/925-0606 (NYC) or email orders@wmm.com.  You can also get copies by
calling Nell at 773/465-0538 (CHGO).  Moreover, it's important to urge and
support "Jane"'s airing on public TV. Call your PBS station's Customer
Service representatives and tell them you want this movie shown -
preferably more than once - on your local public television station.

And, especially where your local clinics and counseling services need a pep
rally - everywhere, these days - do consider these possibilities=85=85=85=85=
mix
and match; use any combination:

+ Screen the video - if you charge even a small amount for tickets, you can
use it to benefit your local abortion providers and counselors.

+ Invite one or both of the filmmakers to come to your
event/class/program/screening to do q&a/discussion after the movie.=20

+ Invite me to do a reading/performance of my writings about abortion.  For
examples, see "She Said" in Calyx, Winter, 1998, 17.3, and "Abortion Is a
Motherhood Issue" in Mother Journeys, Feminists Write about Mothering, ed.
Maureen T. Reddy, Martha Roth and Amy Sheldon, Spinsters Ink, 1994 (1995
winner of the Minnesota Book Prize for Nonfiction). (Women's Studies
teachers - you can also use Laura Kaplan's book about the service [The
Story of Jane, Pantheon, 1995], now in paperback.)

For clinics, other abortion services, and women's studies groups, travel
expenses only, no fee.  I'm especially interested in talking to young
women.  Probably that's because I had some extraordinary good luck when I
was young, coming to consciousness in the late 1960's.  Like Oliver Wendell
Holmes, I believe that, through great good fortune, in youth my heart was
touched with fire.  I lived in, and helped to make, some powerful history -
and I want to offer a witness, to speak of that history, to put the past to
use in these hard times, to carry it with us into the future.

+ Encourage women who've had abortions to meet together and talk, CR-group
style, to help each other know and tell the truth about their intense
emotions and thoughts.  Don't let anti-abortion terrorists be the only ones
to address and define this experience in women's lives.

You can reach Kate and Nell as noted above; you can reach me at the
numbers/addresses below - we do like to work together.


Judith Arcana (a former Jane)              =20
4034 NE Royal Court
Portland, OR 97232
phone: 503/736-1136     fax 503/234-6993
jarcana@ibm.net=20


Margo Okazawa-Rey
Professor
School of Social Work
San Francisco State University
San Francisco, CA 94132
415 338-6187 (tel)
415 338-0591 (fax)
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Hi,

I'm only an undegrad, but I've done some research on gender bias in
students' evaluations of college professors.  Two factors seemed to be the
biggest causes of inequity - first of all, whether the professor was
teaching in what was considered a "gender appropriate" field, (ie.
female professors in the hard sciences seemed to do worse than their male
counterparts, as well as their female counterparts in departments like
English)  The other determining factor was whether or not the professor
was percieved to have certain gender specific personality traits.  Female
profs were expected to be more nurturing, more available to students etc,
while male professors were admired for traits like strong aggressive
leadership.  There are also studies that show that the traits students
most positively associate with men are the same traits they indicate must
be present in effective leaders.  This is very much like the exercise
Kelley Crouse introduced to the list a few days ago.  I have a list of
references on the subject.  If anyone is interested, feel free to email
me.

Stacey Meadow
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I remember a few weeks ago someone inquired about women's festivals.  At
that time I knew there was one in Arkansas but could not remember details.
I received a registration form this week and will post information here:

9th Annual Northwest Arkansas Women's Festival and Conference
"Women's Role in American Culture"
U of Ark.                     March 5-8
Old Main 501
Fayetteville, Ark. 72701
For more information contact
Vickie Keely --501/521-8562
Patricia Romanov 501/575-2954
Kelly Kuntz 501/582-4790

Sponsored by Gender Studies Program
Humanities Dept.
Fulbright College
room 506 Old Main
(rest as above)

PLEASE DIRECT ALL QUERIES TO THESE FOLKS
NOT TO ME -- I'M JUST PASSING ON THE INFO.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Miriam K. Harris, Ph.D.
Lecturer, Business and Technical Communications
School of Management -- UT-Dallas
PO Box 830688
Richardson, Texas 75083-0688

mharris@utdallas.edu
972/883-6822 of.
972/883-6823 fx.
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At 07:06 PM 2/15/98 -0600, you wrote:


>    It is my perception that Chemistry grades are more cut and dry
>than sociology grades  -  I am wrong here Kelley?
>
>Marina


Hi Marina,

Are you addressing the assumption that objective, multiple choice exams are
more cut and dry than subjective, essay exams?

Kelley
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From:         "N. Benokraitis" <nbenokraitis@UBMAIL.UBALT.EDU>
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On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Women's Studies at Denison University wrote:

> I wonder if it might help to refer to these evaluations as "student
> evaluations" rather than "teaching evaluations" in order to emphasis that
> teaching might be evaluated in other ways as well. I as well as others
> often call them "teaching evaluations" but I am increasingly suspicious of
> this label.
>

"Student opinions" or "student thoughts" might be more appropriate than
"student evaluations." Students can certainly react to questions such as
whether or not I showed up for class, whether or not I returned exams,
etc. but "evaluation" connotes an assessment of worth or importance.
There's no evidence that students can make such assessments. Neither can
colleagues, it seems to me, who are teaching in different disciplines or
very different specializations in the same discipline. I can sit in on a
chemistry class and have some reactions about whether the faculty member
seemed organized, answered questions (or ignored them), and so on. But how
the halibut could I evaluate someone in chemistry, literature, etc.?!?

niki benokraitis, sociology, u of baltimore
nbenokraitis@ubmail.ubalt.edu
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On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, N. Benokraitis wrote:

>  Students can certainly react to questions such as
> whether or not I showed up for class, whether or not I returned exams,
> etc. but "evaluation" connotes an assessment of worth or importance.
> There's no evidence that students can make such assessments. Neither can
> colleagues, it seems to me, who are teaching in different disciplines or
> very different specializations in the same discipline.

This is a topic of particular interest to me , so I feel like I need to
address what Nikki wrote.  Clearly, as undergraduates, students are not
capable of looking at a faculty member's CV with any degree of real
authority.  Sometimes we can't really tell what material was left out of a
course sillabus.  I do think, however, that it is extremely problematic to
dismiss the entire notion of student feedback on professors, for that is
like saying that issues like availability to students, approachability,
comprehensability in the classroom are unimportant.  The student eval
forms are also sometimes the only permanant statement students can make
about grossly inappropriate behavior on the part of a faculty member,
which the college or university is unwilling to investigate.  (This has
been the case in several instances I am aware of at my previous
institution.)

I think it might be more useful to create alternate ways of going about
student evals - perhaps make them optional.  Let the students who really
don't care say othing, but allow those who feel strongly one way or
another to voice their views.  Or maybe it is useful to begin to
investigate
how to change the way they are used by faculty evaluation committees - if
colleagues are evaluating one another's "worth" at a particular
institution, it would seem that they could figure out that isolated
negative evals (like the ones *they* recieve from time to time,) are not
really indicative of a faculty member's entire performance.

Stacey

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Daphne-Do you mean that YOUR students actually READ the syllabus! Pardon
my sarcasm.
Carolyn Wright
ciwright@mailbox.syr.edu

On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, DAPHNE PATAI wrote:

 I have been made aware that students
> hate it when a change is made in the syllabus, even if it's both
> necessary and beneficial (say, the result of some missed days, or of
> realizing that this particular gorup would students would benefit more
> from something other than was planned for week 6, or whatever). I
> believe in general teachers need to speak up more in defense of their
> own autonomy and responsibility over their own classrooms.
> --
> ======================
> Daphne.Patai@spanport.umass.edu
>
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My experience is that they say ( two weeks after the NEW semester has
started) that they
need a higher grade from me so as not to lose a scholarship, or to stay on
the dean's list. While most of my evaluations over the past three
semesters have been very positive, the few that have not really have
come from those who have literally not done the work or not done what was
required according to the syllabus.As an adjunct instructor
who loves to teach, this has
been particularly disheartening. As someone who hopes to find a fulltime
position in academia I wonder if these few evals will keep from attaining
my goal.
Carolyn
ciwright@mailbox.syr.edu

>   Rather, my point is that they actually have the nerve to tell
> me that they need in a good grade in my class to balance the poor grade in
> another class.  But I am curious now.  Do they ask you to change the grade
> by telling you they're failing another course--whatever that might be?
>
> Best,
> Kelley
>
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On Saturday, February 13, I reviewed "Titanic"
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I have long thought Martha Stewart's work would make an interesting topic
for women's studies.  Good for you for pursuing it. I don't know of
anything on her but I would think that comparing her to Catherine Beecher,
to the works of The Boston Cooking School magazine, and to, say, the
home economics curriculum and its rhetoric within the early twentieth
century -- these might lead to significant comparisons.

Susan Tucker
Curator of Books and Records
Newcomb College Center for Research on Women
Tulane University
New Orleans, La. 70118
susannah@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu
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A different experience re: teaching evaluations:
I have, for years, had outstanding teaching evaluations; the chair of my
dept once said they were "to die for."  My experience in dealing w/ the
academic worplace, however, has been that this has hindered, not helped,
my career.  Perhaps becaue of the sort of thinking we're seeing here?
(i.e., using student evaluations of teachers leads to poor teaching)  Is
the assumption made that, therefor, one who gets them must be a poor teacher?

I believe, on the other hand, that my high evaluations come from one
source:  an absolute commitment to treating students with respect, fairness,
and genuine concern for them as whole human beings.

Come to think of it, the dept may have known just what it was doing
when it decided not to promote me  :)

Vera Whisman
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I'd like to add my thoughts about student evaluations and First-semester
composition, in response to Susan Koppelman's recent posting about the
remembered "harshness" of composition instructors.  I think it's important
to note that different types of classes lead to different expectations on
the part of the students, and therefore different evaluations, as well.
For example, I teach composition, and therefore have to deal with: 1. the
fact that I only teach required courses that students feel coerced to sign
up for; 2. I teach a class that's "only" English, and therefore expected
to be easy (I would guess that few students whine that chemistry is
"supposed" to be easy, although they may think it's too difficult for an
introductory level course); 3. I have 18 students to a class.  This is a
luxury, I know--but because I'm often the only instructor who knows a
first-year student's name (all their other classes are large lecture halls
with 200 or so other students) it's expected that I'll be the
understanding teacher who will inflate grades, play psychiatrist, etc.
All of these things impact evaluations.  Also, take into account that
composition is traditionally taught by drastically underpaid graduate
assistants who are not perceived as "real" teachers (often by faculty, as
well as by students), and that writing is intensely personal, and
therefore an extremely difficult subject to teach or assign a grade to.
Most students in writing fall back to the "that's my opinion" stance; my
argument that, "all homosexuals are evil and should be shot on sight" is
not an appropriate rhetorical strategy given an academic audience is seen
as dismissing any opinion that doesn't agree with my feminist agenda.  Any
suggestion that developing a variety of different voices and strategies
for different writing purposes is seen as a devaluing of the Romantic
ideal of "personal voice."  Any suggestion on my part that doctors not
always be referred to as "he," and that "lazy people on welfare" not only
shouldn't always be considered to be African -American females, but that
the underlying assumptions of this stereotype should be examined
critically, are dismissed as "PC propaganda." Many students feel as Susan
Koppelman felt, that First-semester composition serves only to deflate and
silence students.  I think we should consider, though, why it seems as
though certain subjects should not be allowed to impose rigorous
standards, and why one might still feel slighted some years after a class
if the experience was not as affirming of our self-opinion as we thought
it should be.  Part of this, of course, stems from the traditional
approach to first-semester composition as a "writing from personal
experience" course; although, from a feminist pedagogical standpoint this
can be desirable, it also asks students to impose certain academic and
rhetorical strategies on a genre that operates in a different mode, and
can have the writer at cross-purposes.
One last note on evaluations: aside from the fact that graduate
instructors are dismissed as "Not real instructors" (perhaps removing some
of the sting if a student's writing is evaluated as "average"--of course,
trying to mesh a feminist pedagogy with a set of decidely non-feminist
evaluative criteria presents its own problems), gender plays a role in
student evaluations even in "female" fields such as English.  For example,
my department started a new program last semester where new Master's
students, instead of teaching first-semester comp. during their
first-semester as graduate students, would assist an experienced graduate
instructor (deemed a "good teacher" by the department).  I am a PhD
candidate at the dissertation stage who has taught for over six years at
four different institutions; my "mentees" were both first-time teachers
and new Master's students.  In both cases, we approached the semester as a
"team-teaching" situation, and never gave the students any background on
our experience, the mentoring program, etc.  The student evaluation form,
though, asked students to evaluate the "senior" teacher and the "junior"
teacher individually.  The majority of students assumed that my
mentees--both male--were the senior teachers.
Sorry for such a long posting--I'm wading my way through a stack of
student compositions (one of which says, "This advertisement was geared
towards high-class people, not women"), and I just had to ramble.

Sharon L. Migotsky
Illinois State University
4240 Stevenson Hall
Normal, IL 61790
E-mail: slmigot@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu
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On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Kelley Crouse wrote:
> At 07:06 PM 2/15/98 -0600, you wrote:
> >    It is my perception that Chemistry grades are more cut and dry
> >than sociology grades  -  I am wrong here Kelley?
> >Marina
> Hi Marina,
> Are you addressing the assumption that objective, multiple choice exams are
> more cut and dry than subjective, essay exams?
> Kelley
    Ah, now you are assuming that I use multiple choice exams.  I
don't.  I mean that if 5X5-4 = 16.  It can't be 5 or anything else.  If
the units of measure are missing, a point is removed.  I give essay exams
too.  Describe the three generations of pesticides.  But those essays are
to the point and there is only one right answer.  Of course, I have been
scolded for using essay exams in chemistry.
Marina
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On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Vera Whisman wrote:
> I believe, on the other hand, that my high evaluations come from one
> source:  an absolute commitment to treating students with respect, fairness,
> and genuine concern for them as whole human beings.
> Come to think of it, the dept may have known just what it was doing
> when it decided not to promote me  :)
> Vera Whisman

    You were not promoted and you had high student evaluations?
    I agree with your interpretation of the source of high
evaluations.  What does you evaluation look like?
    The last question on mine which is what is taken to be gospel :
    What is your overall evaluation of this teacher?
    outstanding, excellent, very good, good, or poor.
    I rank usually just above very good and once excellent.
    That is not good enough in my department.

Marina
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From:         Diana H Scully <dscully@SATURN.VCU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: "missing girls"
In-Reply-To:  <v01520d00b10ddd378e18@[172.16.217.4]>; from "Adele" at Feb 16,
              98 12:39 pm

The International Women's Tribune Center (IWTC) and the United
Nations Development Fund for Women (UNIFEM), in a joint publication, "Gender
Violence" indicate that the world population is short my about 60
million women and they attribute the cause to selective abortion of
female fetuses, female infanticide, withholding of food and medical
treatment from women and girls, and wife murder.  I believe their
statistics are generated from another United Nations publication,
"The world's Women: Trends and statistics 1979-1990."  You can find
more information on the internet at the UN Women Watch site,
www.un.org/womenwatch/
Diana Scully
>
> Are there any demographers out there who could tell me where to find an
> article or two  (comprehensible to the nonspecialist)  on the  "missing
> girls" or "missing women" in the statistics of some countries ie, there is
> not (or were not)  as many  females in the population as one would expect?
>
> I'm not thinking of modern China with the one child policy, but examples
> where the causal factors may be less immediately obvious.
>
> I've been reading an historical demographer who claims that low numbers of
> females in an indigenous  population last century were simply the result of
> maternal mortality, while many  historical sources (by Western observers)
> say that female infanticide was a contributing factor.  & I'm lookingfor
> some comparative material to try to evaluate his argument.
>
>
> Thank you.
> Adele Fletcher
> University of Canterbury
> a.fletcher@phil.canterbury.ac.nz
>


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We don't seem to have answered Brenda's specific question -- what is the
tenure-track prof to do, given the literature on student evaluations?  The
answer is to "be prepared," and part of that is to show your senior
colleagues that you respect their teaching and the work culture you've
landed in.  Part of it is to educate them about what you are really doing
in and out of the classroom.

Here are some ideas:
1.  Your senior colleagues love to think they are wonderful teachers (and
some might be!).  Go to your department chair, other senior men, possibly
women, in and outside the department.  Maybe even the dean.  Don't just
pick people you know are friendly; include someone who may be sceptical of
new-fangled topics, etc.

Be as frank as you'd like -- I myself would say that the dean cautioned me
for straying from the syllabus.  Ask them to give you an hour over coffee
to go over your syllabi and theirs in a comparable course.  Ask to sit in
on a class of theirs.  Ask them to sit in on a class of yours.

2.  Plan ahead for your meetings with these profs to present material to
them to counter possible (future) unfavorable criticism -- e.g. say "Now I
know I have used sources written by women here.  This is why I have done
this; does this still 'cover the curriculum'"?

3.  Also invite some of these profs to presentations you make, e.g. a
brown-bag lunch, a talk in the community.

4.  Ask their advice about all sorts of things having to do with work
culture (should you offer to sit on X committee?  would he be interested
in team-teaching a course sometime on topic X that combines his expertise
with yours?).

5.  When you put together a tenure file, be armed with statistics
presented as graphics.  Your department and college should be able to make
available ALL the evaluation stats, which you can put on a chart (e.g. to
show that you are in the top 10% on evals overall, or whatever).

I agree that the issue of effective teaching is a political minefield;
therefore, much of the above is really a political solution.

Carole Adams
Uni of Central Florida
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It seems to me that teaching evaluations are used by committees
for whatever they want.  If they don't like you, they will find
the one evaluation by a disgruntled student.  If they do like you,
they will ignore blatant signs of incompetency.
      I am on the academic job market, and have been for 4 years now.
I've had a series of temporary and adjunct positions, and was
hired in them because of my great teaching evaluations.  But
I've been told that if a position opens up, I don't have enough
publiciations.  So I'm good enough to teach there for years,
with glowing student reports, but I'm not good enough to hire
into a tenure-track position.
     I really like to teach more than I like to publish, but
it seems to me that having good teachers is not a primary
goal of colleges (even liberal arts ones).  I'm increasingly
looking at community colleges, because they do emphasize
teaching.  BTW, I do have some publications, and recently submitted
another.  I also present every year at conferences in my field.
Christine Smith
Lewis & Clark College
csmith@vms.cis.pitt.edu
casmith@lclark.edu
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Thanks to those who have been commiserating.  We are still not up, though we
have a beautiful design and text awaiting.  We moved in July; it's only mid-
February.  Florence Howe  (florench@aol.com)
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From:         "Lynn H. Collins" <lcollins@UBMAIL.UBALT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Teaching and tenure
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Hi,

Susan Basow has done a lot of research on bias in student evaluations of
teaching. She has a chapter describing and summarizing her findings in
our (Lynn H. Collins, Joan C. Chrisler & Kathryn Quina)
forthcoming book, "Arming Athena: Career strategies for academic women"
that should be out this summer. Sage is the publisher. It should be a good
chapter for chairs, deans, and others (lawyers?) influencing decisions in
the tenure process, as well as the candidate herself.

Lynn H. Collins, Ph.D.

*****23rd Annual Association for Women in Psychology Conference*****
        Baltimore Hilton & Towers, March 5-8th, 1998

        For registration information please contact me at:

            Applied Psychology & Quantitative Methods
                    University of Baltimore
                      1420 N. Charles St.
                   Baltimore, MD 21201-5779

                           or e-mail:
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On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Marina Koether wrote:
>     Ah, now you are assuming that I use multiple choice exams.  I
> don't.  I mean that if 5X5-4 = 16.  It can't be 5 or anything else.  If
> the units of measure are missing, a point is removed.

P.S. I know the answer is wrong!  It made you think!
    This was an example of where a student insisted that the answer
was 16 and I couldn't convince him otherwise.  Aren't the answers cut and
dry in chemistry but more possibilities exist in sociology?
    You can teach a student to be PC but he still might say racist and
homophobic things outside of class.

Marina
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On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Christine Smith wrote:
>      I really like to teach more than I like to publish,
    I think it is easier to teach than to publish because the student
walks into your office everyday but setting time aside to publish is more
difficult and not staring you in the face.

    Keep on applying....practice makes perfect.

Marina
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From:         Kelley Crouse <kcwalker@SYR.EDU>
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At 10:27 AM 2/16/98 -0600, you wrote:

>    Ah, now you are assuming that I use multiple choice exams.  I
>don't.  I mean that if 5X5-4 = 16.  It can't be 5 or anything else.

Gosh Marina, I hope this isn't a trick question.  I thought the answer
would be 21! But, you know us sociologists:  either were mathematically
challenged or suffer from physics envy, so perhaps my algebra fails me ;-)

Still, I'm wondering what you're getting at by saying that Chemistry grades
are more cut and dry.  Would this be the student's perceptions?:
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>Most students in writing fall back to the "that's my opinion" stance.... Any
>suggestion that developing a variety of different voices and strategies
>for different writing purposes is seen as a devaluing of the Romantic
>ideal of "personal voice."

I know that this thread is tangential to the discussion of evaluations, but
I feel the need to add my 2 cents (and vent).  In addition to the "it's my
opinion" defense, what I encounter in personal conferences with students
and on evaluations is the argument that, when I try to eliminate jargony
language, slang, cliches and a sort of hip-ironic wink-wink-nudge-nudge
tone, or to impose any sort of grammatical order, I am interfering with
their "style."

As for evaluations, I truly do want student feedback, but I find myself
increasingly willing to dismiss their "evaluations" of my teaching--in part
because so many of them, who never came to my office, feel free to evaluate
whether I "was available during office hours"; because so many of them,
when asked if they "put forth [their] best effort," respond by saying,
"Yes.  I read all the assigned texts, came to class and did the
assignments"; because so many of them complain that they shouldn't be
required to watch movies outside of class; because....  I'm still searching
for a way to get honest, thoughtful and useful feedback from my students.
I'd be interested in any questions or techniques that other list members
use that seem to produce useful information not only about the course
design and my performance, but also of the students' expectations and
performance, and which would tell me to some extent what the students'
think they have learned.  Any suggestions?

--Stacey Shimizu


Stacey Shimizu
Department of English
Illinois Wesleyan University
Bloomington, IL 61702
(309) 556-3241
sshimizu@titan.iwu.edu
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From:         Miriam Harris <mharris@UTDALLAS.EDU>
Subject:      grade change requests
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I never had humanities students hound me for grade changes.  But I could
write a book on the incidents I experienced teaching MBAs business
communications.  I was "stalked" outside my office, followed in from
parking lots, and even called long distance during the xmas holidays.

I've never had a group so consumed with getting an A.  "What do I have to
do . . . "  I'd say: write A work.  That's not the answer they wanted at
all.

It was extremely stressful.  All semester and even worse after grades came
out.  Some students were openly hostile at receiving a B.

Their reasons had to do with maintaining an A average more than anything
else == making excuses about their student aid being increased if they had
a 4. average, which the director of the program assured me was not true.
Also they claimed all job interviews went to 4. and that I held their
careers in my hands.

Need I say more? Stress!

Miriam K. Harris, Ph.D.
University of Texas at Dallas
mharris@utdallas.edu

Private Address
PO Box 670 665
Dallas, Texas 75367-0665
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The message below and other discussion of this topic raise the question of
what are the criteria for tenure in fact, rather than in general, service,
scholarship and teaching.  Efforts to create a merit badge set of steps,
dear to the heart of untenured faculty seeking asurance and administrators
fearful of law suits, have actually been less than effective.  I suggest
that condition resultws from the nature of faculty relations and the
subjectivity of the process, neither of which can be substantially
changed.  I was once told with some accuracy that the first question to
ask when considering someone for tenure is whether you would be willing
to have lunch with them every Friday until you retired.  If the answer
was no, look for the reasons they should not be tenured.  If the answer
was yes, look for reasons to award tenure.  Regardless of publications,
grants, student evaluations, that dynamic remains at work.  When asked by
untenured faculty what is needed to assure the awarding of tenure, the
only reply that is truthful is the offer of a tenured position at another
university.



On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Brenda Brasher wrote:

> I appreciate the insights from some of the seasoned faculty
> on this list regarding the politics of weighing teaching
> evaluations.  My question is, what should one do when
> it becomes obvious that  the political game is afoot?   I
> am in my second year of teaching at a small liberal arts
> college.  My professional accomplishments have been
> outstanding (i.e., I published a book & two journal articles
> in the past year & already have a research grant for the
> summer.).  My department is extremely pleased with me.
>  I have been actively involved in college life.  My tenure
> track contract was renewed; however, I received a very
> critical assessment from the Committee on Faculty.  The
> sole ground the committee gave for this less-than-admirable
> assessment was student evaluations; however, a thorough
> review of my student assessments does not back up such
> an assessment.  For example, I was verbally  charged by my dean
> with "going off the syllabus."  Now one could readily argue
> that to do this is not exactly a major academic crime & can
> be, in fact, warranted by class dynamics, etc; however,
> the fact is, I did not "go off the syllabus" in any of my courses.
> Looking at my course reviews from all students, I found that
> only one student out of all the students who evaluated me
> made such a claim; yet, this one student's comment was
> taken as 'gospel' by the committee & charged as a failing
> on my part.  The fact that the vast majority of the students
> in my courses rated me as "outstanding" was, although
> mentioned by the dean in his opening remarks, totally
> discounted in the committee's overall assessment.   Thus,
> I concur that there is a politics to weighing student evaluations.
> My question is, what are the most effective tactics to employ
> in responding to it?    Thanks for any advice, etc.
>
> Brenda E. Brasher
> Mount Union College
> brashebe@muc.edu
>

Wm W. Pendleton
Department of Sociology
Emory University
Atlanta, Ga. 30322
socwwp@emory.edu
404 727-7524
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From:         Gail Dines <WHE_DINES@FLO.ORG>
Subject:      Summer Institute: Media Education in a Violent Society

Wheelock College will be holding its fourth Summer Institute on Media
Education in a Violent Society. The five-day institute takes place
at Wheelock College in Boston from July 6-10, 1998.
The purpose of the institute is to explore the role that media play
in helping to shape our development, attitudes, behavior and culture.
Participants will examine how to develop media literacy curriculum for
the classroom and how to encourage critical viewing skills in
children, youth and adults. The core faculty include Gail Dines,
professor and author of Pornography: The Production and Consumption
of Inequality, and editor of Gender, Race and Class in the Media.
Diane Levin, professor and author of Remote Control Childhood:
Combatting the Hazzards of Media Culture, and Petra Hesse, producer
of The World is a Dangerous Place: Images of the Enemy on Children's
Television. The Institute is designed for teachers, parents, students
and human service professionals. For more information, please
e-mail Gail Dines at whe_dines@flo.org. Thank you, Gail Dines
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Stacey Shimizu asked how to make student evaluations more meaningful.
Perhaps, like other skills, this is something that needs to be recognized
as a skill that can be acquired, something that does take thoughtfulness
and attention.  for instance, if possible, you might ask students at the
beginning of a course what they would put on an evaluation, what are the
areas in which they think they can/should be evaluating their instruction.
even if you are going to have to use a standard evaluation form, you could
at the same time that you distribute the syllabus, distribute copies of the
form and have a discussion of what student expectation and instructor goals
are in each of the areas covered.  Students at The University of Iowa
developed a "student core," a set of questions that can be used in addition
to what the department or instructor is interested in, that reflect what
students feel are important aspects of a class [these students, by the way,
did include a question on how well the class conformed to the syllabus
provided--but they were more concerned about courses in which promised
material never appeared].
another thing that might be done is to do mid-term evaluations that are
discussed in the class.  when i taught, i would have those evaluations read
not by me but by a committee of students, who took some class time to
report to the class what the perceptions at midterm were.  then, we could
discuss what should/could/would be different in the second half of the
semester.
JoAnn Castagna
joann-castagna@uiowa.edu
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One of the tips I was given when I completed my first faculty annual
evaluation turned out to be really wonderful advice.  I was told that my
student evaluations didn't have to be perfect but that I should proactively
respond to them in each year's self evaluation.

Each year, I include a section in which I discuss my ratings and analyze
what I suspect to be the reasons behind high and low ratings.  One year I
had great evaluations except for one single student who rated me poorly on
everything!  I explained that indeed one single student had failed the
course and I wouldn't be at all surprised that she was expressing her anger
and probably wasn't very objective in evaluating me.  Another year I
explained a dip in ratings because I was teaching a brand new course in the
curriculum.  It wasn't perfect (as a first-run never is).  Additionally, I
offer an action plan for changes I'll be making in response to the student's
comments.  So far, I have found my administrators to be very supportive of
this practice.

There are many strengths and many weaknesses in the process of student
evaluations. But as long as we are doing them, we ought to show that we are
doing our best to be responsive to any component that may reflect the need
for real change.

Debra

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Debra Kirkley, PhD (c), RNC
Assistant Clinical Professor
Texas Woman's University
College of Nursing
Dallas, TX  75235
dkirkley@twu.edu


..snip
>We don't seem to have answered Brenda's specific question -- what is
thetenure-track prof to do, given the literature on student evaluations?
The answer is to "be prepared,"
..snip
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Niki's comments,

> Neither can
>colleagues, it seems to me, who are teaching in different disciplines or
>very different specializations in the same discipline. I can sit in on a
>chemistry class and have some reactions about whether the faculty member
>seemed organized, answered questions (or ignored them), and so on. But how
>the halibut could I evaluate someone in chemistry, literature, etc.?!?

bring up another question for me.  Do any of your evaluation forms ask
students to make comparative evaluations:  i.e., "Did you learn more in
this class [or 'from this professor'] compared to other classes you've
taken?"  Since I spend a week or two in my writing class on just what kind
of logic goes into writing a fair and balanced comparative evaluation, I
agree with the person who suggested that students need to be educated in
such a process to be able to provide useful data/responses.

Or, on another tack, do the formal reports of eval. numbers, or the deans &
tenure cttes who read them, keep track of "faculty averages" or otherwise
compare faculty scores to one another across classes, ranks, and/or
disciplines?  I would think that people who are teaching cross-listed
courses might run into exactly the sort of "how in the halibut" situation
Niki describes -- if so, what kinds of coping skills have you developed?

shelley


    *****
Shelley Reid
English Department, Austin College
(Home of the Fighting Kangaroos)
Sherman, TX  75090
SREID@austinc.edu
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I've been following the thoughtful conversation about evaluation and
assessment and wanted to add one more element that I've incorporated
into my courses.  At mid-term and at the end of the term, I ask
students to complete an open-ended "self-assessment" form in addition
to  instructor and course assessments/evaluations.  On the
self-assessment, I ask students to evaluate their performance in the
course thus far, their attendance and participation, the quality of
their written work and analysis of course readings.  I ask them to tell
me what letter grade they believe they've earned thus far as well as
why.  Then I ask them to offer me specific suggestions on how I can
improve the course for the rest of the term.  In the ten or so years
that students have been doing self-assessment in addition to course and
instructor evaluation, I've seen them take themselves more seriously as
important contributors to the success of the course.  The
self-assessment opportunities are also a chance to comment at length
rather than fill in little circles on multiple choice, computerized
evaluations.  My next goal is to get self-assessment onto my web site
(under construction) for each course that I teach.

----------------------
Suzanne Bunkers
suzanne.bunkers@Mankato.MSUS.EDU
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 20:35:07 +1100
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From:         Alison Brookes <alib@DEAKIN.EDU.AU>
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The Australian Women's Research Centre is delighted to announce the first
of the the 1998 Seminar Series presentations:

"International Feminist Perspectives on Women and Social Class"

Presented by Pat Mahony

The seminar will begin with an account of how Christine Zmroczek and Pat
Mahony
became interested in Women and Social Class as a political project and how
their edited book _Class Matters_ helped to clarify understanding of the
social construction of 'working classness'.  _Class Matters_ also raised
further questions which will be the main subject of the seminar: how class
'works' in diverse geographical and cultural locations, how class
discriminations are actively taught and the way that new technologies and
communications render class unstable.

Pat Mahony is Professor of Education at Roehampton Institute London.  She
has worked for many years in the areas of equal opportunities and teacher
education and is currently engaged in a number of research projects
exploring the impact and significance of government policy in these areas.
Her books include _Schools for the Boys?_; _Learning our Lines_ (edited with
Carol Jones); _Promoting Quality and Equality in Schools_ (edited with Ruth
Frith); _Changing Schools: Some International Perspectives on Working with
Girls and Boys_; _Class Matters_ (edited with Christine Zmroczek);
_Reconstructing Teaching within Re-invented Government_ (forthcoming with Ian
Hextall) and _International Feminist Perspectives on Women and Social Class_
(forthcoming with Christine Zmroczek).

AWORC invites all interested people to attend the Seminar.

Where:  Deakin University, Burwood Campus, Room M-205
When: March 2nd, 4.00 - 6.00 pm


For further details or information, please contact:
Alison Brookes, School of Social Inquiry, Deakin University.
email: alib@deakin.edu.au
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From:         Faye Johndrow <fjohndro@POLARIS.UMUC.EDU>
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> unsubcribe
>

Faye Johndrow            fjohndro@polaris.umuc.edu
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From:         Judy Evans <jae2@YORK.AC.UK>
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On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Faye Johndrow wrote:

> > unsubcribe
> >
>


Send this to listserv@umdd.umd.edu --

or you'll be trapped on the list forever :)


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Judy Evans          jae2@york.ac.uk
Typing, Dragon Dictate's. Opinions mine
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:36:10 -0500
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From:         "Dr. A.V. Soady" <vsoady@GRITS.VALDOSTA.PEACHNET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CALL for Contributors, Southern Women Playwrights
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Linda ...I haveswitchwd you to friday at 3:45.  Not a good spot insome
ways, but that was all that I could do.

cheers, viki
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:21:06 -0500
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        I've just learned about a feature of WMST-L that some subscribers
may find useful.  You now have the option of having "[WMST-L]"  included in
the subject header.  This may help you to tell at a glance which mail is
from WMST-L even if your mail system doesn't give you other clues (some
mail systems show the mail as coming from WMST-L, while others show the
mail as coming from the individual poster).  Not everyone will want to
sacrifice part of the subject line in order to include [WMST-L], but if you
DO want to do that, send the command QUERY WMST-L to LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU
to find out what your current settings are.  You should get back a message
that looks something like this:

> Subscription options for Joan Korenman <KORENMAN@UMBC.BITNET>, list WMST-L:
>
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> REPRO          You receive a copy of your own postings
> NOACK          No acknowledgement of successfully processed postings

        Your options may be different, but the important thing is to find
out what your HDR option is.  It may be FULLHDR (like mine), SHORTHDR,
IETFHDR, DUALHDR, FULL822, or SHORT822.  Save that information, because if
you don't like any changes you make, you'll need to know what to set your
header back to.

        OK.  Once you have the information about what your HDR option is,
you can send a second message to LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU that says

        SET WMST-L SUBJECT

This will result in [WMST-L] appearing at the start of every subject header
line that comes from WMST-L.   For example, I recently received a message
from the list about the subject header "Seminar - Australian Women's
Research Centre" .  It appeared in my index of messages as
"Seminar - Australian Women's Research Ce" .  If I'd set the SUBJECT
option, my index listing would have been something like
"[WMST-L] Seminar - Australian Women's Res" .

        If you later decide that you don't like this option, you can change
back to what you had (in my case, FULLHDR) by sending another message to
LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU saying SET WMST-L [option], where you replace
[option] with whatever your old HDR option was (in my case, the message
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        Please be sure to send all these messages to LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU
  Do NOT reply to this message.  Do not send any of the above messages to
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*    U. of Md. Baltimore County                                             *
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:44:18 -0500
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        In the last day or so, several people who apparently can neither
read (the User's Guide) nor spell have sent totally inappropriate messages
to the list asking to "unsubcribe" [sic].  I don't know how they managed to
sign ON to the list without being able to read or spell, but I will not
unsubscribe them without a message from their physician testifying to the
fact that they have become mentally incapacitated and therefore cannot do
this simple task for themselves.

        As the User's Guide and the welcome letter and any number of
reminders on WMST-L have made clear, if you receive WMST-L as individual
messages and wish to unsubscribe, you should simply send the message
UNSUB WMST-L to LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU .  (UNSUBSCRIBE WMST-L and SIGNOFF
WMST-L will also work.)  If you get the EDITED DIGEST, you
should send the following two-line message to that same address:

        AFD DEL WMST-L PACKAGE WMST-L
        UNSUB WMST-L

        You may think you're too busy to bother, but my time is just as
valuable as yours.  If your address has changed since the time you signed
on to WMST-L and thus you are unable to unsubscribe from that address,
simply write to me PRIVATELY explaining the situation and whether you get
individual messages, the edited digest, or whatever.  Writing to me under
such circumstances is perfectly legitimate, as long as you do so privately,
not via WMST-L.

        Thanks for your understanding and cooperation.

        Joan

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*    U. of Md. Baltimore County                                             *
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 07:41:13 -0600
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Elana Newman <elana-newman@UTULSA.EDU>
Subject:      encouraging students to read syllabi
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Carolyn Wight's comment about syllabi prompted me to tell her about my
latest policy in trying to encourage students to read the syllabi. She
suggested I share it with the list....

This semester students in my Psychology and Gender class were told that the
first exam would have at least one question on the syllabi. Sadly enough
only 42% got it correct.  In reviewing the exam with the class, I discussed
my surprise at this response and told them another question or 2 will be on
the next exam...It's sad, but shaping behavior may be the way to go!!!


Elana Newman, Ph.D.
University of Tulsa
Department of Psychology
600 South College Avenue
Lorton Hall 308
Tulsa OK 74104-3189
(918) 631-2836
Fax (918) 631-2833
elana-newman@utulsa.edu OR newmane@centum.utulsa.edu
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 13:53:04 +0000
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From:         Judy Evans <jae2@YORK.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: on Subject Line
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On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Joan Korenman wrote:

>         I've just learned about a feature of WMST-L that some subscribers
> may find useful.  You now have the option of having "[WMST-L]"  included in
> the subject header.  This may help you to tell at a glance which mail is

HEY! -- YES! -- that would save having to unsubscibe

;-)

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Judy Evans          jae2@york.ac.uk
Opinions mine alone... .
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:03:21 -0600
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Traci Kelly <tkelly@MAIL.CRK.UMN.EDU>
Organization: University of Minnesota Crookston
Subject:      Re: encouraging students to read syllabi
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In all of my lower division courses, I give a quiz on the syllabus
the day after it is handed out.  It helps some.  It might be a bit
heavy handed, but I figure it's kinder than them not bothering to
read it and then getting docked a lot when they don't follow its
guidelines later.


> This semester students in my Psychology and Gender class were told that the
> first exam would have at least one question on the syllabi.
[clip]
> Elana Newman, Ph.D.
> University of Tulsa
Traci Kelly
tkelly@mail.crk.umn.edu
Postal address: Traci Kelly
                University of Minnesota, Crookston
                109 Conference Center
                2900 University Ave
                Crookston,  MN  56716-5001
                phone: 218 281 8273
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:45:27 -0700
Reply-To:     Kari B Mcbride <kari@U.Arizona.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Kari B Mcbride <kari@U.ARIZONA.EDU>
Subject:      teaching composition
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As someone who taught first-year composition for 8 years, I was really
disheartened to read that students in their 70s retain negative feelings
about their college composition courses and the instructors. From my point
of view, this doesn't seem to be an accurate assessment of either the
classes or the teachers, but misplaced blame that has remained misplaced
for decades. It seems unlikely that all of the women reminiscing had
uniformly bad composition teachers, so I would argue that, on that basis
alone, logic suggests that other factors are more significant than the
courses or the instructors, none of which are identical from school to
school or from generation to generation.

For a variety of reasons, students come to college composition unprepared
to do college writing. Partly, it has to do with the fact that high school
teachers are overworked, have too many students, and just don't have the
time to teach students how to write. But it also has to do with the
difference between what is expected of high school and college writing.
Many students have never engaged in analysis, evaluation, or
argumentation, and it's hard to make the shift from the modes or forms
they were used to using.

There is nothing more difficult than communicating to students, semester
after semester, that they now have to work to a different standard. As
Sharon Migotsky suggested, many factors come into play here regarding
gender and position within the academy. But the bottom line is that
writing is hard work, and the only way to get better at it is to do it
over and over again--to put time and effort into the process. If students
are busy telling themselves that the class and the teacher are bad or
wrong, improvement is not likely to be the result.

As it happens, I received consistently strong evaluations in composition
classes, but teaching those classes was among the most costly emotional
experiences I have ever had--very similar the kind of psychic energy I put
out teaching Introduction to Women's Studies, where faculty tend to be
blamed for bad teaching when they ask students to stretch their minds and
do things differently.
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 12:17:12 -0600
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Angela Pattatucci <a_pattatucci@UPR1.UPR.CLU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Student Evaluations Get Failing Grades
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I have often compared the classroom of the 90's to a restaurant.  Students
are the clients dining out and we are the waitresses and waiters.  If
something in a student's "meal" isn't just right, they send it back.  It
is discouraging to see institutions of higher learning going the same
route as the primary and secondary education system in the U.S.A., where
student grades don't seem to correlate very well with achievement.  These
days, students often come to class with a variation on the theme of Rene
Descartes, "I exist, therefore I deserve an A". (*smile*).

I asked the question about how student evaluations are "weighted" because
I found this relevant to the topic of being "out" about one's feminist
politics and commitment to feminist issues which appeared on WMST-L
recently.  It has been my experience that if a faculty member is perceived
as a "problem" (regardless of whether she really is or not), and the issue
surrounding her problem status is viewed as a "hot potato", meaning that
it carries potential liabilities if the institution calls her specifically
on it, then student evaluations suddenly take on great significance.  It
seems to me that the knowledge that student evaluations are being
stockpiled by institutions and could *potentially* be used against a
faculty member at some point in the future is in itself sufficient to
modify the behavior of many faculty.  Thus, the overall message seems to
be that if you are "normal", meaning that you strictly adhere to cultural
mores existing within the school and match the prevailing definition of
what a "good faculty" member is, whether that's Monday's definition or
Thursday's, you probably don't have much to worry about.  Student
evaluations will be "kept in perspective".  However, if you are not
"normal", for whatever reason that might be, watch out.  Student
evaluations, even if they are generally favorable, may be used against
you.

Dra. Angela Pattatucci
Universidad de Puerto Rico - Recinto de Rio Piedras
a_pattatucci@upr1.upr.clu.edu
"De poetas, tontos y locos todos tenemos un poco"
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 13:03:53 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Catherine Hopwood <chopwood@HWCN.ORG>
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TYPE: INDEX WMST-L

Catherine Hopwood
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 13:29:19 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Linda Anderson <linda.anderson@YALE.EDU>
Subject:      les/gay programs
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does someone have a listing of university lesbian/gay studies programs
which are minors or tracks?  please respond privately.  thanks.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Linda L. Anderson            tel: 203/432-0845
Women's Studies Program            fax: 203/432-8475
Yale University                email: linda.anderson@yale.edu
P.O. Box 208319, 315 WLH
New Haven, CT 06520-8319
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:08:17 -0500
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         "Carolyn Dipalma (WOS)" <cdipalma@LUNA.CAS.USF.EDU>
Subject:      Re: encouraging students to read syllabi
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I haven't given quiz or exam questions about the syllabus, but in my
largest classes I have asked that students turn in a signed statement
that says that they have read the syllabus carefully.  I explain that the
syllabus is very detailed and that I want to make sure that they've read
it carefully so that they can ask any questions they may have.  I ask for
these on the second day of class.  It seems to help students to recognize
their own responsibility and it usually generates some good questions.

On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Traci Kelly wrote:

> In all of my lower division courses, I give a quiz on the syllabus
> the day after it is handed out.  It helps some.  It might be a bit
> heavy handed, but I figure it's kinder than them not bothering to
> read it and then getting docked a lot when they don't follow its
> guidelines later.
>
>
> > This semester students in my Psychology and Gender class were told that the
> > first exam would have at least one question on the syllabi.
> [clip]
> > Elana Newman, Ph.D.
> > University of Tulsa

> Traci Kelly
> tkelly@mail.crk.umn.edu

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*  Carolyn DiPalma, Ph.D.           email: cdipalma@luna.cas.usf.edu  *
*  Assistant Professor              phone: 813-974-0979               *
*  Department of Women's Studies    fax:   813-974-0336               *
*  4202 East Fowler Ave., HMS 413                                     *
*  University of South Florida                                        *
*  Tampa, FL 33620-8350                                               *
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:33:09 -0600
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Angela Pattatucci <a_pattatucci@UPR1.UPR.CLU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: encouraging students to read syllabi
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Communicating course policies in the syllabus provides written
documentation of what is expected of students, and for that reason is a
good idea.  However, the original post on this was about student
complaints that a faculty member had departed from the syllabus.

Pardon my ignorance, but why should ANY faculty member be held negatively
responsible for such a thing?  Does the world stand still while the course
is being taught?  Are we supposed to ignore pertinent current events or
new information because most of us are not clairvoyant and did not include
them on the syllabus?  The departing from the syllabus complaint sound
analogous to student outcries that a test question is unfair because the
material isn't covered in the textbook.  What kind of administration takes
such student complaints seriously?

Dra. Angela Pattatucci
Universidad de Puerto Rico - Recinto de Rio Piedras
a_pattatucci@upr1.upr.clu.edu
"De poetas, tontos y locos todos tenemos un poco"
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 11:06:56 -0500
Reply-To:     Jo-Ann Pilardi <pilardi@saber.towson.edu>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Jo-Ann Pilardi <pilardi@SABER.TOWSON.EDU>
Subject:      M. Stewart/diversity
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>From my daughter-in-law, who works at a fancy restaurant in
Manhattan, I hear that there is an Af-American alternative (to Martha
Stewart) surfacing:  Barbara Smith (not the feminist, but owner of another
fancy restaurant--popular with the NY black uppwardly mobile crowd). Soon
she will produce a show just like M.S.  A source for research into this
whole area would be the Women's Culinary Alliance in NY--it pools the
thoughts and opinions of women from all aspects of the culinary world.

    Jo-Ann Pilardi, Towson University WMST, jpilardi@towson.edu
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 11:35:09 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Linda Kuzmack <lkuzmack@PFAW.ORG>
Organization: People For the American Way
Subject:      Radical right
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I am beginning research on scholars and articles/books that deal with the =
radical right and/or the religious right's attacks on women.  I would =
appreciate it if scholars on wmst-l would tell me about the work they are =
doing in this area, or about the work of their colleagues.  Where might I =
find a bibliography on this area?

Thank you,

Linda Gordon Kuzmack
lkuzmack@pfaw.org   =
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Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:21:19 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         JoAnn Castagna <joann-castagna@UIOWA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: departing from the syllabus
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I think that while instructors may see only virtue in departing from the
syllabus,  students could use an evaluation question about "departing from
the syllabus" to signal what does (unfortunately) occur in some
classrooms--days of vague digressions or instructor inattention that
results in student frustration because nothing is being done/covered.
Students in courses that are part of sequential groups (e.g. language
courses, math courses, sequential science courses) may worry that if all
the promised materials on a syllabus are not covered, if instructors decide
not to cover some material, they will not be properly prepared for the next
course--and it would be appropriate for administration to be concerned if
that were a recurring complaint about an instructor.
JoAnn Castagna

joann-castagna@uiowa.edu
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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:43:25 +0900
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         matthew and christina <matthew@SANMEDIA.OR.JP>
Subject:      Re: Martha Stewart
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> I'm in the midst of writing a paper on Martha Stewart as an example of
> adult education in the 1990's.  I've not had much luck finding sources
> outside of the internet and Martha's books/magazines/TV show/web site
> addressing her as a positive example, let alone an exmple of feminism.
> Does anyone know of sources I should look at?  What are folks thoughts
> about her current success and visibility?
>
i don't know if this will be of any use to you, but Margaret Talbot wrote
an interesting essay "Les Tres Riches Heures de Martha Stewart" (in
English) which appeared in _The Anchor Essay Annual_  vol 1, edited by
Phillip Lopate, published by Anchor Books / Doubleday, NY, 1997.

christina
matthew@sanmedia.or.jp
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The student from India who suggested that learning styles are culturally
based is right, of course. We learn how to learn - over a period of time in
a culture/s. This doesn't mean there's no human agency, no innovative or
original thought, only that learning develops in a context. Given this
understanding, generalizations about differences in learning styles between
women and men in the US are highly questionable whether stated as
'tendencies' or within certain parameters: too many intervening cultural
variables are involved. Such generalizations fall into the 'essentialist'
trap, ignoring changing relations and processes. Studies of women's
learning styles, the Belenky et al. and other followers of Gilligan's
initiative maximize sex/gender differences, following the paradigm set by
studies of men as does research that reports such definitive markers as
race and class.
    What do I know about Indian learning styles? I taught in India, a country
probably more diverse culturally than the US, caution that my view of
learning there reflects impressions derived from particular context,
personal contacts and reading, not systematic research. I gave a graduate
course in Women's Studies at a highly selective university in New Delhi
(admission via tests administered across the country; a govt. institution,
like most postsecondary schools, it's tuition-free with subsidized housing
and food; the language of instruction is English, as it is in major
postsecondary institutions in a nation with 17 officially recognized
languages; affirmative action with quotas, required by law in all state
agencies is practiced.) I also talked with students and faculty at various
college and university campuses elsewhere in the country, with some
illiterate urban and village women and with many educated people outside
education settings, had contact with primary and secondary school personnel
and with children. Teaching styles are diverse; they include lectures that
transmit received knowledge, preparation for external exams (English-style
practice, tho not at my university), class discussions and keen critical
analyses.
    On the basis of my experience, I'd say learning styles vary substantially
in India.        beatrice    bkachuck@cuny.campus.mci.net
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The best advice I can think of, Brenda (and others caught in the political
web of tenure), is to consult friends in your dept, the chair if possible
on how to deal with the unfair view of that committee. Put your response in
writing? speak to someone there? find others to speak for you? find out who
is blocking you? (acting on unfair, unreasonable, untrue evidence)
    There's probably a committee or someone above the committee that's
badmouthing you, so that you will go forward with a cloud that others will
not have. This warrants at least hinting at a grievance if there's a
faculty union. (Tenure is often competitive; only a certain number will get
it.) Will that matter? Does your own dept. chair make the pitch for her/his
faculty to upper echelons? Did you get a strong pitch? (lies from the
'pitcher' about what s/he said are not unknown, so you'd have to find out
if you can from someone who heard it). Is sex discrimination an issue,
e.g., a man or men with less of the valued attributes competing with you,
getting preference? Messy, rough road that I didn't have, fortunately,
until well past the tenure point, had some notion by then of how things go.
Don't be too easily discouraged. Stay centered, firm, cool as you can.
Treat the problem like a political campaign.
    Good luck!    beatrice    bkachuck@cuny.campus.mci.net

p.s. I can't resist a comment in response to those negative ones on English
teachers and students' writing. My unforgettable English 1 prof, a teacher
from whom I learned a great deal about writing, accepted without comment
the red ink I used to write some of my papers, with initial capital letters
in words I thought important; she focused on other matters. I think she
knew she was dealing with a youngster searching for a way to express ...
something.
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An acquaintance asked the following and I was wondering if anyone on list
knew of the answer:


>Query: does anyone have a DATE for that Robin Morgan poem "the
>Arraignment" -- which begins "I accuse/ Ted Hughes" of murdering
>Sylvia Plath? l971? If anyone can help, I need to know ASAP-- by
>Wednesday Feb 18.  After that it will be TOO LATE.

Thanks,  Kelley Crouse
kcwalker@syr.edu
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I believe we (people at MSC, then) were told years ago that a syllabus has the
status of a contract (e.g., if you say the grade is based on a certain formula
and then give a grade other than that arrived at through applying the formula)
it is a breach...I have no idea if this is accurate.  But if it is, or is
believed to be so, there is reason to be concerned about CERTAIN KINDS of
departures from syllabus.

Because reality and plans never match, I include a disclaimer like statement on
the syllabus (this is generally about dates, which I say may change slightly
but there'll be at least a week's notice of a change - student, implicitly,
better keep in touch).  I think it could be worded to include additional
materials/topics could be introduced as appropriate...

Laura

Laura Kramer
Professor of Sociology
Montclair State University
Upper Montclair, NJ 07043

(973) 655-7168

KRAMERL@ALPHA.MONTCLAIR.EDU
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From:         "D.K. van den Hoonaard" <DKVDH@ACADEMIC.STU.STTHOMASU.CA>
Organization: St.Thomas University
Subject:      Re: Student Evaluations Get Failing Grades

I found myself combining this discussion with the one on teaching
English composition.  I find that today's students are quite
resistant to the idea that we have a higher (or different) standard
than the one they had in high school.

As well, I teach Sociology and Gerontology--many students deeply
resent my belief that they should be able to write well--spell things
right and use sentences that include verbs, etc.  This has an impact
on student evaluations.

In addition, I think that some students may resist a woman's trying
to get them to think critically and analytically more than they
resist a man's attempt to do the same thing. Students regularly
comment in their evaluations that I'm too critical (or even sarcastic
although I don't think I am).  It makes me wonder if students expect
their women profs to "mother" them, to always build up their egos and
never say anything negative.  I always try to include suggestions for
how to improve a paper in  my comments, but that is also seen as
negative.

A colleague, who studies course evaluations, is looking into the
research for me.  He's already reported to me that men, in general,
get higher evaluations than women.

 D.K. van den Hoonaard
 Gerontology Program
 St.Thomas University
 Fredericton, N.B., Canada
 Email DKVDH@StThomasU.ca
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D.K. van den Hoonaard wrote:
> A colleague, who studies course evaluations, is looking into the
> research for me.  He's already reported to me that men, in general,
> get higher evaluations than women.

In an effort to champion research conducted prior to 1990 (*smile*), the
following studies listed below found that in comparably matched groups
according to educational level, skill, and experience, men are
consistently rated higher than women in job qualifications.  Women receive
less recognition and prestige for contributions made and are viewed as
less knowledgeable and having lower levels of expertise compared to their
male counterparts.

Bayer, A.E. & Astin, H.S. (1975).  Sex Differentials in the academic
reward system.  Science, 188, 796-802.

Deaux, K. & Emswiller, T. (1974).  Explanations of successful performance
on sex-linked tasks: What is skill for the male is luck for the female.
Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 29, 80-85.

Etaugh, C. & Kasley, H.C. (1981).  Evaluating competence: Effects of sex,
marital status, and parental status.  Psychology of Women Quarterly, 6,
196-203.

Angela Pattatucci
Universidad de Puerto Rico - Recinto de Rio Piedras
a_pattatucci@upr1.upr.clu.edu
"De poetas, tontos y locos todos tenemos un poco"
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Re the discussion on "departing from the syllabus"

I make a distinction between the "syllabus," and the "assignments." I
see the syllabus as (more or less) a contract between the students and
the faculty member in terms of what the purposes of our work together
are, how, in general, we are expecting to accomplish them, and, in
general, how the students will be evaluated.  A "syllabus" however, is
not the same as a list of activities, readings, assignments, etc. which,
in my course, is generally sketched out but my no means predetermined.
I no longer hand out a dated list of upcoming assignments; I'm committed
to a pedagody which involves students in making decisions about the what
we do when, how much and how often, so I now give a general outline,
write daily assignments on the board (like in the old days) and give a
short list of due dates for more complex assignments.  I still get some
complaints about being "confused" but I encourage e-mail questiosn to
deal with that.  I say a little confusion is a sign of a mind trying to
get somewhere and it ought to be honored for that reason.

Good discussion.

Leonora Smith
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From:         Diana H Scully <dscully@SATURN.VCU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Radical right
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              at Feb 17, 98 11:35 am

I'm sending this to the list because I think it might be of general
interest.  The National Women's Studies Association newest
publication, authored by Danielle Currier and me, is THE NWSA
BACKLASH REPORT: PROBLEMS, INSTIGATORS, AND STRATEGIES.  It is based
on a survey of Women's studies Directors/Chairs and contains
information on the types of problems their programs/departments and
faculty have experienced, the types of strategies used against them
as well as their own defenses, the instigators and right-wing groups
currently organized on college campuses.  It is available through
NWSA (7100 Baltimore Avenue, College Park, MD 20740) for $10.
Diana Scully
>
> I am beginning research on scholars and articles/books that deal with the =
> radical right and/or the religious right's attacks on women.  I would =
> appreciate it if scholars on wmst-l would tell me about the work they are =
> doing in this area, or about the work of their colleagues.  Where might I =
> find a bibliography on this area?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Linda Gordon Kuzmack
> lkuzmack@pfaw.org   =
>


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           AMERICAN STUDIES OPPORTUNITIES & NEWS INDEX

                   Week Ending February 15, 1998

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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:37:48 -0600
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From:         "Camille K. Lewis" <cklewis@INDIANA.EDU>
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1973.  See this website for the info:

http://www.alexia.net.au/~www/mhutton/iwd/monster.htm

This website is particularly useful for e-texts of the SCUM Manifesto,
Morgan's "Goodbye to All That," etc.  I thought perhaps the whole group
would be able to use it.

Hope you get this in time!

Camille Lewis
Indiana University
Communication and Culture

-----Original Message-----
From:    Kelley Crouse
Sent:    Wednesday, February 18, 1998 4:04 AM
To:    WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU
Subject:    Ted, Sylvia and Robin Morgan

An acquaintance asked the following and I was wondering if anyone on list
knew of the answer:


>Query: does anyone have a DATE for that Robin Morgan poem "the
>Arraignment" -- which begins "I accuse/ Ted Hughes" of murdering
>Sylvia Plath? l971? If anyone can help, I need to know ASAP-- by
>Wednesday Feb 18.  After that it will be TOO LATE.

Thanks,  Kelley Crouse
kcwalker@syr.edu
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Hello, I am looking for people who would like to form a panel related to my
proposed subject, "The Female Subject among American Women Artists,
1963-1983" for the May 18th "Women and the Arts" Conference at Rutgers. The
deadline is Feb 20th so responses are needed quickly! (although I think
there is some flexibility with this date)

This paper is based on research completed for my dissertation
which I have just completed. I will be graduating from NYU in May. I am in
the Humanities Education Program in the Dept. of Culture and Communication
in the School of Education. Currently I am teaching Women's Studies at SUNY
New Paltz.

I look forward to hearing from some of you!

Denise Bauer
libra@warwick.net
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"The Female Subject among American Women Artists, 1963-1983"

This will be an interarts exploration of how a selection of American women
artists represented the female subject during the period around the Women's
Movement, 1963-1983. I will consider how the sociopolitical and cultural
context of the Women's Movement helped shaped remarkably common themes and
issues among women visual artists, poets, filmmakers and performance
artists.

I will explore for example, the subject of childbirth and pregnancy as
expressed by artists like Joyce Chopra in her autobiographical film Joyce
at 34, by painter Alice Neel in her series of pregnant nudes, by Judy
Chicago in "The Birth Project" and by the performance, "The Birth Trilogy"
at Womanhouse. Other themes during this period included women's
relationships with women as articulated in Adrienne Rich's book of poetry,
Dream of a Common
Language and Claudia Weill's film, Girlfriends and feminine identity as
explored by Faith Ringgold in her story quilts and Marisol in her haunting
female sculptural forms.

By looking closely at women's aesthetic expressions of women during the
particularly transformative historical moment of the Second Wave Women's
Movement, I will forge  a uniquely synthesized account of  feminism and
contemporary American art and culture.
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Below is an exercise that I use the first day of class to cover syllabus
issues. Rather than read over the syllabus with the students first thing,
I have them fill out this worksheet. Then I have them discuss their
answers in small groups.  I use it because

a.  In my experience, class time is often wasted because students ask the
same questions over and over again without listening to what other
students are asking.  This exercise eliminates that problem entirely.
Also, most of the syllabus is usually self-explanatory, but students are
not entirely focused because of the hectic first day of class. In small
groups, students are forced to engage with the syllabus and the students
answer the questions for each other and figure things out on their own.

b. Also, the worksheet nearly always evokes that standard questions about
"male bashing," passing the class if you're not a feminist, and so forth.
The worksheet allows these fears to be addressed in a productive
fashion--it gets them out on the table on the first day of class, in an
anonymous manner, and then lets me confront them directly rather than let
them percolate over the semester.

c.  Finally, the group exercise helps to set the tone of the class as
emphasis on cooperative learning, it models how our other cooperative
learning exercises will operate, and it lets the students feel more
comfortable with me and each other.

The exercise takes about the same amount of time as going over the
syllabus repeatedly. The entire exercise takes about 30 minutes and covers
most of the ground that I would have covered if I just lectured.




    WORKSHEET: First Day of Class Exercise

Please read the all directions before beginning.

PART I

Please spend a few minutes reflecting on your expectations for the class,
on any fears you might have about the class, and on any questions you have
about the syllabus, course procedures, assignments, etc.  Then briefly
answer the questions below.

1.  What is your greatest fear about the class (if you have one)?

2.  What do you what you want to accomplish or learn in this class?

3.  What questions do you have about the syllabus, assignments,
procedures, etc?

PART II

In groups of 5 students discuss your answer to question 3 (and questions 1
and 2, if you want to).  Each group should then vote on the most important
question they have about the syllabus and class, and report back to the
class.

Next, as a class, we will process your questions about the syllabus.

Last, I will take up your answers to questions 1 and 2, and read selected
responses out loud to the class.  If you want to remain anonymous, please
do not write your name on this paper.
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I am compiling a bibliography of U.S. literature on
contemporary women in poverty, such as Dorothy Allison's
"Bastard Out of Carolina".  I would appreciate suggestions.
Please respond privately.  Thanks.

-----------------------------------------
Nancy M. Whitt
Professor of English
Samford University
Birmingham, AL 35229
Phone: 205-870-2458 Fax: 205-870-2112 E-mail: nmwhitt@samford.edu

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"

      Walt Whitman
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Date:         Wed, 18 Feb 1998 13:31:37 -0700
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One of my students is updating our Women's Studies web site, and we would
like to inclunde a link to quotes from famous women.

Could you please send me your favorite quotes, and we'll include them in
the list.

Thanks.
Brenda Cooper
bcooper@cc.usu.edu

Brenda Cooper, Director
Women's Studies
Department of Communication
Utah State University
Logan, UT  84322-4605
801-797-3253

"I think it will be truly glorious when women become real people
and have the whole world open to them."
Isak Dinesen, 1923
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Yesterday, Angela Pattatucci wrote:

> I have often compared the classroom of the 90's to a restaurant.  Students
> are the clients dining out and we are the waitresses and waiters.  If
> something in a student's "meal" isn't just right, they send it back.  It
> is discouraging to see institutions of higher learning going the same
> route as the primary and secondary education system in the U.S.A., where
> student grades don't seem to correlate very well with achievement.  These
> days, students often come to class with a variation on the theme of Rene
> Descartes, "I exist, therefore I deserve an A". (*smile*).
>

I'm relatively new to this list, though not at all new to feminist
work.  (I've taught gender courses for more than 15 years.)  But I
was somewhat surprised by this post because it seemed to shift the
agency entirely to the students.  If feminism taught me anything it
was that relationships between professors and students are
relationships of power, and that the inequalities of gender are
complicated by inequalities of institutional position.  What's
more, power is often invisible to thoise who wield it.

In the restaurant metaphor, it's the students who *seem* to have the
power, but I would bet from their position they don't feel that way.
After all, the waitresses and waiters do not decide if the customer
gets to eat at all.

At the same time, the metaphor does speak to a sense of entitlement
that our students - or at least my students - seem to walk around
with these days (the clever rephrasing of Descartes).  My students
often act as if they are there to be made comfortable, and that
whatever makes them uncomfortable - like a new idea that does not
accord with commonsense TV talk show psychobabble - ought not be
spoken in class.  They're not there for education, and they know it;
they're there for processing and credentialing, and education, if it
happens at all, may be a reltively pleasant or unpleasant side dish.

I think our analysis has to take acount of *both* these experiences;
stressing their power as consumers alone, or stressing our
overweening power alone will not get us to the place where we can
really engage how the classroom is different fromm the classrooms
that we remember (and imagine) that we inhabited as students.  It's
in that contradiction between our power and their sense of
entitlement that much of our contestation lies.

Michael Kimmel




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From:         Laura Sells <sells@LUNA.CAS.USF.EDU>
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I really liked Michael's analysis of the restaurant metaphor. But I find
McDonald's to be a more persuasive metaphor than the sit-down fern bar
type of restaurant. McDonaldization seems to be a big theme these days,
and I find it really fits my experience in teaching. I think that the
"academy's" shift to a Total Quality Management orientation hamstrings the
learning process and contributes to undergraduates' desire for high-
calorie, low-nutritional content. What frightens me about this process,
though, is that the alternative rhetoric I hear from
teacher/waitstaff/burger flippers, which is what I sometimes feel I really
am, is the "Back in My Day we actually had to read" orientation that
institutionalizes and canonizes women's studies in ways that make me very
uncomfortable. What I'm really trying to say is this: what is the
difference between active learning, cooperative education, bells and
whistles, culti-multuralism, diversity, total quality management teaching,
on the one hand, and on the other, a geniune feminist pedagogy that
teaches "to" the students through alternative teaching strategies that
attempt to challenge the institution of the academy and, now, the
institution of women's studies.

Last semester I taught a section of Intro to Women's Studies that was
overflowing with people who were there just for the Gen.Ed. credit. I
found myself saying to them the exact same things in the exact same
authoritative and arrogant tone that I heard my Freshman English teacher
say to students who challenged traditional interpretations of the poem of
the week.  This is not the image of women's studies that I want to project
as a feminist teacher.

Where's the feminist middle ground?

Laura Sells
Department of Women's Studies
University of South Florida
Tampa, FL
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All I can say is that I extend a hearty thanks to all who've written in.  I
no longer feel so alone in my frustration with what I've encountered.  Even
as a grad TA I had students literally yell at me for writing extensively on
their papers in an effort to help them improve their writing.  I did so
because that is what my hs teachers and profs did for me and I don't think
I'd be where I am today without their help.  So, I felt I was giving back
the gift that I had been given, only to increasingly find that students
resent my gift.  Very frustrating to say the least.  Oh I have students
here and there who do appreciate it, I have a few notes from some who've
felt I've changed their lives, and I generally get very good evals.  I
think what concerns me is that under the onslaught of this indifference
and, occassionally hostility, I feel that my commitment to feminist
pedagogies is steadily eroding and that, more and more, there isn't any
institutional support that will support me in my effort to keep up the
fight.
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Oh how exciting.  We're doing the same, but building a website for William
Smith from scratch as part of the intro course.  So, please send those fav
quotes to me too!

Thanks ever so much.  I'm sure they'll be thrilled

Kelley
kcwalker@syr.edu
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From:         Miriam Harris <mharris@UTDALLAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: women in poverty
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The Beans of Egypt Maine by Carolyn Chute is another.
The Color Purple by Alice Walker
Beloved by Toni Morrison
Women of Brewster Place by Gloria Naylor

Miriam K. Harris, Ph.D.
University of Texas at Dallas
mharris@utdallas.edu

Private Address
PO Box 670 665
Dallas, Texas 75367-0665

On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Nancy M. Whitt wrote:

> I am compiling a bibliography of U.S. literature on
> contemporary women in poverty, such as Dorothy Allison's
> "Bastard Out of Carolina".  I would appreciate suggestions.
> Please respond privately.  Thanks.
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Nancy M. Whitt
> Professor of English
> Samford University
> Birmingham, AL 35229
> Phone: 205-870-2458 Fax: 205-870-2112 E-mail: nmwhitt@samford.edu
>
> "Do I contradict myself?
> Very well then I contradict myself,
> (I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
>
>       Walt Whitman
>
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for a bibliography, i'd appreciate hearing from folks who know of any
books/articles dealing with differences in the processes/products of male
and female writers.  respond privately and if you like i'll post a list for
all.

thanks
kassie fleisher
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In a message dated 98-02-18 21:26:44 EST, you write:

<< for a bibliography, i'd appreciate hearing from folks who know of any
 books/articles dealing with differences in the processes/products of male
 and female writers.  respond privately and if you like i'll post a list for
 all.

 thanks
 kassie fleisher

  >>

Kassie, I'm curious to know something.  Are you presupposing that there ARE
differences in the processes/products of male and female writers, or are you
investigating IF there are differences in the processes/products of male and
female writers.  In either case, in which dimensions of product and process
would you postulate that the differences are manifest?

I remember when feminists began first to take positions on and theorize from
those positions about the diffderences or absences of differences and then I
remember when some began to investigate whether or not there were in fact
differences and I remember reading, listening to, participating in that
discussion.  I am wondering if you are taking a position or if you are asking
for information about the various positions vis a vis the question of whether
at all and if so what and where there might be differences.

Be that as it may, I would like to tell you, if you don't already know about
it, that the longest and most successful at passing gender poseur among
writers that I know of is James Tiptree, Jr./Alice Sheldon.   Do you know that
story?  It is a wonderful one.  Read Robert Silverberg's introduction to what
I believe was her first or perhaps her second collection of short stories!
You'll howl with laughter!   And Joanna Russ has some wonderful stories to
tell, and perhaps letters to share some day about their correspondence when
Joanna believed that Alice was James -- and Alice's response to Joanna's
response to the discovery that James was Alice.  A wonderful story.

One year many years ago, I taught a literature course and decided to include
an absolutely even number of male and female authors in the syllabus.  And I
did.  But several of the women writers had published under male pseudonyms,
and I included their works on the syllabus as written "by" their male
pseudonyms.  So in fact, to one who did not know that these writers were
gender masked, it appeared that the syllabus was about 25-30%  women writers
and the rest men writers.

Well, the students looked at the syllabus (some of them has heard rumors that
their teacher was a -- GASP -- radical feminist; this was @1972) and looked at
me and some of them complained loudly, more whiningly than litigiously, "But
the whole thing is all WOMEN!!!"

I asked them to count the writers they thought were women and the writers they
thought were men and to take out their little calculators (in those days we
were just all starting to carry them) and do the math and tell me what percent
were women and what percent were men.

One could assume, in those days, that college sophomores knew how to take
percents.  Can you still?

And they did as I asked and then looked at me, startled, because they saw for
themselve how they mis-saw, how they thought that when women weren't
invisible, they seemed to take up the whole room!!!

I said to them, "I will ask you on your midterm, in an essay question, to
explain to me why you mis-saw in that way."

By midterm, if they couldn't do that, it was because they refused to, didn't
want to say it out loud, even on paper.  But they knew. . . .

And I, of course, not wanting to rub their noses in it too wickedly, made that
promised essay question one of several they could choose among.  No one HAD to
answer it -- but each of them had to read it.

Love and Kisses, All you Wonderful Feminists Who Are Taking the Women's
LIberation Revolution into the camp of the enemy -- The Intellectual Police
Stations.
Susan Koppelman <<huddis@aol.com>>
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This is a crucial issue, and not an easy one. There are good restaurants
and fast food greasy spoons--and lots in between.  There are exuberant,
motivated students and there are sleep-walkers--and lots in between.
Feminist discourse is all about eschewing easy dichotomies, and this is no
exception.
Students want good grades, and I have learned to include in my syllabus a
section demystifying this concept.  Basically, it's a recipe for good
grades that places the onus on the student to be alert in class,
interactive with me and others, to budget the time to rewrite papers
before handing them in, including a focus on clear argumentation, etc. For
my part, I include mid-term evaluations that will determine the way the
second half of the semester will be structured to ensure the students get
the best from me. I firmly believe that motivation is more important than
intelligence (assuming college students are at least average in
intelligence) and that if I present interesting material in ways that
engage their minds and hearts they will do well and enjoy the process.

I am known as a tough but fair grader at this point, and I stress that
from the first.  The students are expected to write coherent papers with
some insight into the material in hand, and I am always there to answer
questions (e-mail or office hour) about content (grammar etc. is not my
concern--they are urged to go to the university writing center for that.
 Students who are not native speakers and others who have special
problems beyond that can meet with me during office hours and several
come and use that time thoroughly and well, so we both benefit).

Finally, to ensure they know what's in store, they must complete a waiver
saying they've read and understood the syllabus (incl. the part about
sexually explicit and other challenging material) if they wish to remain
in my sections. AND I give a writing assignment on the first day that I
grade by the second so that they have a good idea of how I grade and why
(lots of comments in pencil which, I remind them, are NOT reflections of
them personally but of their writing only, with a view to helping them
identify areas they need to improve and strengths they can build on).

Sure, I have some nasty evaluations and some students who claim they do
the work, not me (for example, when they do presentations...) But in my
department there is at least one supervisor visit a semster for TAs (which
I am; we are independently responsible for our own syllabus, however) and
this balances student evaluations somewhat.  Naturally (alas) in the
tenure process a lot of extraneous issues are part of the puzzle and
personality conflicts, politics etc. play a huge role, so that evals can
be used as Rorschach (sp.?) tests.

Liora Moriel
Comparative Literature Program
University of Maryland
2107 Susquehanna Hall
College Park, MD 20742-8825
lioram@wam.umd.edu
"We have cooperated for a very long time in the maintenance of our own
invisibility.  And now the party is over."                - Vito Russo
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A colleague in a social science discipline teaches that
"anti-motherhood" is a significant component of the women's movement.  I
should add this is a female colleague.  She gave some isolated quotes
from Simone de Beauvoir, said (early) Freidan found motherhood "boring",
and then quoted from some recent pundits who have been in the press a l
lot.

When I responded that was a misrepresentation of the feminist movement,
she answered, "My point is not about what the majority of feminists
think.  The majority of women who call themselves feminists do not even
know who Firestone is -- and why should they?  Academic feminism has
strayed awfully far from advancing the interests of women."

Well!

I asked her to explain this term "anti-motherhood" and asked where she
got it -- from within feminism or within feminism's critics -- but in
the meantime I thought I would ask the rest of you -- is my perception
wrong?  I did not think this was a major component of academic
feminism.  For a reading of what academic feminism IS, I thought this
list was a pretty good source.

And does anyone know where this phrase "anti-motherhood" came from
(unless she made it up herself).

Side note:  a bit scary what female academics can be teaching students
is "academic feminism".

Mary Schweitzer, Assoc. Prof., Dept. of History/Women's Studies
Villanova University (on medical leave since January 1995)
mailto:schweit2@ix.netcom.com
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I am sending this message for a colleague who is not on the
list (though I am working with her on her project).  Please
send responses directly to njhiles@samford.edu.  Thanks
you.  Nancy Whitt

If anyone is working with approaches to Problem-based
Learning for women in the Humanities, I would appreciate
receiving references to published material,information on
ongoing studies, and findings from your own classroom
experience (in descending order of preference). For the
purposes of my research, problem-based instruction is
defined by student-centered pedagogies constructed around
students'  self-directed approach to a real-life problem or
set of problems. I am compiling a bibliography and will be
happy to share my findings with contributors who indicate
interest.

Please respond privately to:
Jane Hiles
<njhiles@samford.edu>
Subject: PBL

Thanks very much.
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The light which we have gained was given us, not to be
ever staring on, but by it to discover onward things
more remote from our knowledge.
                   John Milton, Areopagitica


Jane Hiles                  Email: njhiles@samford.edu
Associate Professor         Voice: (205) 870-2039
Department of English       Fax:   (205) 870-2112
Samford University
Birmingham, AL 35229

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Nancy M. Whitt
Professor of English
Samford University
Birmingham, AL 35229
Phone: 205-870-2458 Fax: 205-870-2112 E-mail: nmwhitt@samford.edu

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"

      Walt Whitman
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Date:         Thu, 19 Feb 1998 08:39:56 -0800
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From:         Nicolette Czarrunchick <nicolette_czarrunchick@MACMAIL.UCSC.EDU>
Subject:      Job.UCSC WMST Vis. Asst. Pr

                       Subject:                               Time:8:33 AM
  OFFICE MEMO          Job.UCSC WMST Vis. Asst. Prof.         Date:2/19/98

Please POST

VISITING ASSISTANT PROFESSOR IN WOMEN'S STUDIES POSITION:
The Department of Women's Studies at the University of California, Santa Cruz,
announces the opening of an Assistant Professor in Women's Studies during the
1998-99 academic year, with expertise and ability to teach in one of the
following areas:  feminist theory, women of color in the United States,
popular culture, or film studies.  Four courses will be taught over three
quarters, and some advising will be expected.   Position is subject to
administrative approval of funding .  There is the possibility that the
position could be renewed for a second year.
CLOSING DATE: April 10, 1998
Please refer to provision #T97-40 in your reply.

RANK:  Visiting Assistant Professor
SALARY:  $41,200 - $45,900, commensurate with qualifications and experience.
MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS:  Ph.D. completed by June 1998.  University level
teaching experience.  Ability to relate to a diverse student population.

APPLY TO:  Applicants should send a letter of application, curriculum vitae,
three current letters of recommendation (considered confidential materials),
syllabi, student evaluations of teaching, and a writing sample to:
Emily Honig, Chair
Women's Studies Department
Kresge College
University of California
Santa Cruz, California  95064

Please refer to provision #T97-40 in your reply.
EFFECTIVE DATE:  1998-99 academic year.  Possibility of renewal for 1999-2000.
CLOSING DATE:  April 10, 1998

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nmc
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From:         "Leah C. Ulansey" <leou@JHUNIX.HCF.JHU.EDU>
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On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Michael Kimmel wrote:

>  If feminism taught me anything it
> was that relationships between professors and students are
> relationships of power, and that the inequalities of gender are
> complicated by inequalities of institutional position.  What's
> more, power is often invisible to thoise who wield it.
>

[snip]

>
> I think our analysis has to take acount of *both* these experiences;
> stressing their [students'] power as consumers alone, or stressing our
> overweening power alone will not get us to the place where we can
> really engage how the classroom is different fromm the classrooms
> that we remember (and imagine) that we inhabited as students.  It's
> in that contradiction between our power and their sense of
> entitlement that much of our contestation lies.
>

Very interesting discussion! I'm glad Michael made the above point and I
also agree with Laura that student "consumer power" ( as in
evaluations) sometimes adds up to nothing more than the "power" to
swallow a generic McEducation--with or without ketchup, postmodernism on
the side (ah, choice). And we "burger-flippers" sometimes risk our jobs
and positions when we try to promote more substantive fare (or, God
forbid, home cooking).

 Some interesting questions lurk behind this discussion: is feminist
knowledge more resistant to commodification than other forms of knowlege?
And is the commodity form necessarily bad (undemocratic? unscholarly?)
for the dissemination of knowledge? As I see it, market driven education
dispels certain educational pieties and superstitions that deserve to be
debunked (for instance, ethnocentric notions about what
constitutes an educated person) but it creates a free-for-all in which the
same old social hierarchy can find new opportunities to reproduce
and justify itself in some fancy new way.

In other words, to oversimplify  a bit, I get the feeling that educational
feudalism is dissolving in the throes of educational capitalism. Neither
one is inherently hospitable to feminism, though on the whole, I
personally prefer the openness and unpredictability of the marketplace
to the rigidity of the feudal order.

One other thing: I don't think we can generalize about the
politics of knowledge-acquisition that motivate  "our students"
because those students are a far from homogeneous
group. For starters, some come to college fully expecting that they will
soon be earning more and wielding more social power than we do; for
others, we are the first of many intimidating gatekeepers who will bar or
admit them to the inner sanctum of professional-managerial status. These
two different (though sometimes overlapping) groups of students will
almost inevitably make different use of the feminist knowlege we manage to
convey to them, no? Even within one and the same classroom, there are
different educations going on.

Leah Ulansey
leou@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu




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> Michael Kimmel
> Professor
> Department of Sociology
> SUNY at Stony Brook
> Stony Brook, NY 11794
>
> phone:  (516) 632-7708
> fax:    (516) 632-8203
>
> email:  mkimmel@datalab2.sbs.sunysb.edu
>
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Anyone have any good suggestions for readings about the problems of
immmigrant, professional women breaking into the professions(eg. nursing,
engineering,teaching) in Canada or the USA?
Would appreciate any help. Please send privately.
Jerry
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From:         Sharon Jacobson <SJACOBSO@ACSPR1.ACS.BROCKPORT.EDU>
Subject:      if men could menstruate

Several years ago, there was a handout called If Men Could Menstrauat
, I think it was put out by NOW.  I used to have a copy of it in
my files but it has mysteriously disappeared.  Is this by any chance
still available and if so could someone tell me where I could get a copy.
 Thanks.

--
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Honesty is more than just not being dishonest.  It is an active choice
to be responsible for the choices we make before we act upon them so
that we can stand up for them and not be tempted to be dishonest.
Sharon Jacobson, Ed. D.
SUNY Brockport
Women's Studies Program
sjacobso@acspr1.acs.brockport.edu
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Mary Schweitzer said:

> A colleague in a social science discipline teaches that
> "anti-motherhood" is a significant component of the women's movement.  I
> should add this is a female colleague.  She gave some isolated quotes
> from Simone de Beauvoir, said (early) Freidan found motherhood "boring",
> and then quoted from some recent pundits who have been in the press a l
> lot.

> When I responded that was a misrepresentation of the feminist movement,
> she answered, "My point is not about what the majority of feminists
> think.  The majority of women who call themselves feminists do not even
> know who Firestone is
  <snip>
> And does anyone know where this phrase "anti-motherhood" came from
> (unless she made it up herself).

> Side note:  a bit scary what female academics can be teaching students
> is "academic feminism".

  I suspect that she is referring to the early radical feminist ideas (
Shulasmith Firestone among them).

  Initially the assumption in radical feminism was that the oppression of
women was caused by their ability to produce children.  Patriarchy emerged
as a way men could claim the children women bore.  Men needed sons to
preserve their power and status.  The need to control women sexually was a
means of making sure that the sons a woman bore were the sons of the man
claiming them.  Early radical feminist work included the possibility of
using technology as a way to solve gender oppression.  By finding ways to
reproduce that did not involve men owning/controlling women, the need for
gender oppression would disappear.  As the theory developed the focus
shifted to patriarchy as a structural form.  Patriarchal heirarchies
enforced by violence are widespread throughout many societies and within
many social institutions.  Radical feminists quickly moved beyond the early
genesis of patriarchy by understanding that it is a structure or form of
organization that oppresses everyone.  Reproductive Rights remain a strong
part of radical feminism but the emphasis now is on women controlling their
own sexual and reproductive choices.

_____________________________________________________________________

Von Bakanic, Ph.D.                           (803) 953-7105
Dept. of Sociology                           internet address:
College of Charleston                        bakanicv@cofc.edu
Charleston, S.C. 29424                       FAX (803) 953-5738
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The text of this short essay can be found at

http://www.one-web.net/Humor/If%20Men%20could%20Menstruate
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Hi Sharon,

"If Men Could Menstruate" was written by Gloria Steinem and was published
(I think) in the very first issue of _Ms._ magazine in 1972.  If your
library does not have it, or cannot get it for you, let me know.  I still
use it in my intro classes, when I introduce the various "types" of
feminisms.

Jeannie

__________________________________________________________________________
    . . . Thus wrote        ) Jeannie Ludlow         ( "Lord, you know me,
 a woman, partly brave /    ) jludlow@bgnet.bgsu.edu ( I'm liable to say
   and partly good,        )   Women's Studies      ( anything; so if
 who fought with what /     )   Popular Culture      ( I've offended
   she partly understood    ) Bowling Green SU         ( anybody, well
 hence she was labelled /   ) Bowling Green OH 43403 ( . . . tough."
   harpy, shrew and whore   )                 (     --Dolly Parton
      --Adrienne Rich        )                 (
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We have a saying here: "Naces in Puerto Rico; eres puertorriqueno".
Translated, it means that if you are born in Puerto Rico, you are Puerto
Rican.  This is a statement that celebrates our diversity.  We certainly
have our problems in other areas, and their is always room for
improvement, but in my admittedly biased opinion, we are much less racist,
on any level, than North Americans.  To this end, I sent an email to
President Clinton, suggesting that he use Puerto Rico as a model in his
national discussion on race.  The idea that one person would be considered
more Puerto Rican than another by virtue of skin color or how many
generations their family has been on the island is a completely foreign
concept to us.  However, we are far from perfect (*smile*).

Each year, the University of Puerto Rico circulates a diversity
questionnaire to all employees seeking to gather statistics on
race/ethnicity, age, sex, and position held at the University.  I have
always been irritated by the racial/ethnic categories presented.  For
example, if a person is Black, but wasn't born in a Latino country and
doesn't speak Spanish, everything is okay.  They simply check that they
are Black.  However, if they happen to be both Black and Latino, it's as
if they cease to be Black anymore.  They are supposed to check the
"Hispanic" category.  In this instance, a hierarchy exists where ethnicity
occupies a more dominant position to race.

This year, at the bottom of the last category, there was a notice stating
that if you are Asian, you should check that category regardless of
whether you were born in Puerto Rico or another Latino country, and speak
Spanish.  This struck me as strange.  In this case, race took precedence
over ethnicity.  Why?  Many might say, what's the big deal?  After all
this IS Puerto Rico we're talking about.  This was precisely the response
that I received when I brought my questionnaire over to Central
Administration to inquire about the practice.  However, we have a
substantial Asian population here, most of whom were born here and speak
Spanish as their primary language.  Why does this university consider them
not to be Hispanic?  I pointed out that it would be relatively easy to
simply expand the categories, but was basically told to mind my own
business (*smile*).

The entire experience has been disorienting to me and has caused me to
think about how racial, ethnic, and nationality hierarchies are
constructed in different cultures.   I am wondering if anyone has
performed a cross-cultural analysis of how these hierarchies are
established?

Dra. Angela Pattatucci
Universidad de Puerto Rico - Recinto de Rio Piedras
a_pattatucci@upr1.upr.clu.edu
"De poetas, tontos y locos todos tenemos un poco"
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"If Men Could Menstruate" by Gloria Steinem was published in the October
1978 issue of <italic>Ms.  </italic>It is reprinted in two popular
anthologies: Feminist Frontiers,

ed. by Richardson, Taylor, and Whittier, and Men's Lives, ed. by Kimmel &
Messner.


Kathy Najimy and Mo Gaffney did a hilarious skit based on the same
premise in their original "Kathy and Mo Show," which was broadcast on
both HBO and Lifetime.  I have bugged the networks and Najimy's people to
make the tape available for purchase, but with no success.  (I use a copy
for class that a student of mine taped from Lifetime).  If you can find
it, see it.


Michael









At 01:16 PM 2/19/98 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi Sharon,

>

>"If Men Could Menstruate" was written by Gloria Steinem and was
published

>(I think) in the very first issue of _Ms._ magazine in 1972.  If your

>library does not have it, or cannot get it for you, let me know.  I
still

>use it in my intro classes, when I introduce the various "types" of

>feminisms.

>

>Jeannie

>

>__________________________________________________________________________

>    . . . Thus wrote        ) Jeannie Ludlow         ( "Lord, you know
me,

> a woman, partly brave /    ) jludlow@bgnet.bgsu.edu ( I'm liable to
say

>   and partly good,        )   Women's Studies      ( anything; so if

> who fought with what /     )   Popular Culture      ( I've offended

>   she partly understood    ) Bowling Green SU         ( anybody, well

> hence she was labelled /   ) Bowling Green OH 43403 ( . . . tough."

>   harpy, shrew and whore   )                 (     --Dolly Parton

>      --Adrienne Rich        )                 (

>



Michael Messina-Yauchzy

Ph.D. candidate, Interdisciplinary Social Science

M.A., Sociology

413 Maxwell Hall

Syracuse University

Syracuse, NY 13244


Home page:      http://web.syr.edu/~mmessina/Index.html


E-mail:    mailto:mmessina@mailbox.syr.edu
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Sharon Jacobson wrote:
>
> Several years ago, there was a handout called If Men Could Menstrauat
> , I think it was put out by NOW.  I used to have a copy of it in
> my files but it has mysteriously disappeared.  Is this by any chance
> still available and if so could someone tell me where I could get a copy.
>  Thanks.
>
> --
>
> *************************************************************************
Its by Goria Steinem and is reprinted in The Lanahan Readings in the
Psychology of Women (Edited by Tomi-Ann Roberts), 1997.   That book
reprinted it from Steinem's Outrageous Acts and Everyday Rebellions.

Elizabeth Mazur
psymazur@acs.eku.edu
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We also reprinted the article in our anthology: M. Crawford & R. Unger (1997).
In our own words: Readings on women and gender.  New York: McGraw Hill.
It is still an excellent consciousness raiser for students.  We need more
such pieces that appear non-threatening because of their sense of humor.
Rhoda Unger
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I hate to display my ignorance here.  25 years of feminist study and I
don't know these names.  Who are "Firestone and Oakely", and are they
"anti-motherhood"?  Are they typical of "feminist scholars"?  in the
forefront of "radical feminism?"  Do they publish in academic journals
or popular mags and the trade press?  Do they have university positions
and Ph.D.s?  Scholars -- or pundits?  (George Will being an example of a
"pundit".)

I wouldn't be so concerned if this woman wasn't out there TEACHING this
stuff.  Then again, maybe I'm the one with the wrong-headed idea that
motherhood is perfectly compatible with "modern feminism."

Mary Schweitzer, Assoc. Prof., Dept. of History, Villanova University
(on medical leave since January 1995)
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So I gather Firestone is the example put forward by your colleague to
support claims about "academic feminism."  Did she cite other examples of
the precise work she is criticizing?

It seems to me that if the premise to be demonstrated is that "academic
feminism" is "anti-motherhood," then what is necessary is to show that these
"anti-motherhood" tendencies are present in the texts most commonly used in
Women's Studies or feminist-oriented courses.  One could, for example, sample
the syllabi that are available through this list.  I seriously doubt that
Firestone is in the "Top Ten" list, though I'm unsure what is.

More to the point, perhaps, what is this "anti-motherhood" thing?  Can you
pin your colleague down more on exactly what she means by it?  One assumes
it to mean a position that holds that being mothers is inherently bad for
women.  I know very few academic feminists who think that.  But do we argue
that the notion that a woman can only achieve womanly fulfillment as a mother
is bad for women who wish not to be mothers or seek major avenues of
 fulfillmentelsewhere?  *I* certainly do.  Do I argue against the mandate that
 all women
become mothers?  Sure thing.  Would I argue that a huge drawback to the way
the housewife/mother role was traditionally structured was that it left
women dreadfully economically dependent?  Yep.  Am I concerned about the
cultural tendencies to blame mothers for whatever goes wrong in families?
Sure am.  Do I see a link between women roles as mothers and the feminization
of poverty?  Yeah.....  Do I think that the solution for any of this is for
women to reject motherhood?  Certainly not!

I always thought (and still do) that feminism is about giving women more
choices, not about rigidly prescribing *any* set of roles.

Does any of this make me "anti-motherhood" in your colleague's eyes?  I
wonder.....

  -- Gina (an academic feminist, daughter and grandaughter of feminists,
               and mother of two more feminists)
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Shulamith Firestone's book THE DIALECTIC OF SEX was written in the early
70s.  Von Bakanic described it well.  But I don't think this was an
"initial" position of feminism -- I think it was *one* theory of *one*
feminist writer.  It didn't really make a lot of headway.

Ann Oakley wrote WOMAN'S WORK in 1974.  A chapter in this book is "The
Myth of Woman's Place II:  Motherhood."  Oakley makes a pretty standard
critique of the then-current (and not yet moribund) cultural construction
of motherhood:  It is not true that women are meant to be mothers by
"nature" -- hormones do not drive us to need fulfillment as mothers.  Women
who do not mother are not frustrated and unhappy.  There are many other
avenues to fullment as women.  Children can grow up healthy and happy with
other kinds of caregivers besides mothers, etc...

These arguments might have been radical in 1974, but do not seem all that
radical in 1998.  Feminists did not then and do not now try to convince
women that anything is wrong with liking the child caregiving role -- only
that if you do not find it ultimately fulfilling, there's nothing wrong with
you; if you want to avoid or share it, it's OK.

Does your colleague believe that women are biologically predisposed to be
better caregivers than men, that there is a "maternal instinct"?  And has
she read anything published in the last 25 years?  One of the most appalling
things about this to me is that someone would be teaching what the general
thrust of *any* field is, without being knowledgeable about current research
anbd theory in that field.

  -- Gina
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Why not take an activist approach and invite this faculty member to
publicly debate this issue, an exercise which might ultimately motivate
her students to question those assumptions in her classes.  However, if
you choose to go this route, I would suggest phrasing the debate topic in
more generalized terms.  Posing the question "Is feminism
anti-motherhood?" is similar to asking a man when was the last time that
he cheated on his wife.  The question assumes the answer.

Angela
*************************************************************
Dra. Angela Pattatucci
Universidad de Puerto Rico - Recinto de Rio Piedras
a_pattatucci@upr1.upr.clu.edu

"De poetas, tontos y locos todos tenemos un poco"
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> From: Gina Oboler, Anthropology & Sociology, Ursinus College
<roboler@ACAD.URSINUS.EDU>
> To: WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU
> Subject: Re: Anti-motherhood
> Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 1:28 PM
>
> So I gather Firestone is the example put forward by your colleague to
> support claims about "academic feminism."  Did she cite other examples
of
> the precise work she is criticizing?
>
> It seems to me that if the premise to be demonstrated is that "academic
> feminism" is "anti-motherhood," then what is necessary is to show that
these
> "anti-motherhood" tendencies are present in the texts most commonly used
in
> Women's Studies or feminist-oriented courses.  One could, for example,
sample
> the syllabi that are available through this list.  I seriously doubt
that
> Firestone is in the "Top Ten" list, though I'm unsure what is.
>
> More to the point, perhaps, what is this "anti-motherhood" thing?  Can
you
> pin your colleague down more on exactly what she means by it?  One
assumes
> it to mean a position that holds that being mothers is inherently bad
for
> women.  I know very few academic feminists who think that.  But do we
argue
> that the notion that a woman can only achieve womanly fulfillment as a
mother
> is bad for women who wish not to be mothers or seek major avenues of
>  fulfillmentelsewhere?  *I* certainly do.  Do I argue against the
mandate that
>  all women
> become mothers?  Sure thing.  Would I argue that a huge drawback to the
way
> the housewife/mother role was traditionally structured was that it left
> women dreadfully economically dependent?  Yep.  Am I concerned about the
> cultural tendencies to blame mothers for whatever goes wrong in
families?
> Sure am.  Do I see a link between women roles as mothers and the
feminization
> of poverty?  Yeah.....  Do I think that the solution for any of this is
for
> women to reject motherhood?  Certainly not!
>
> I always thought (and still do) that feminism is about giving women more
> choices, not about rigidly prescribing *any* set of roles.
>
> Does any of this make me "anti-motherhood" in your colleague's eyes?  I
> wonder.....
>
>   -- Gina (an academic feminist, daughter and grandaughter of feminists,
>                and mother of two more feminists)
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Is there any material on lesbains who have no
children who are in relationship with mothers who are
now lesbains?  What are the possibilities for
dynamics with the lover's daughter? Is there anything
written on the role and responsibilities, especialy
where the daughter remains closed to the lover and
the mother wants the lover and daughter to share a
talking dynamic?  What if all attempts fail?  Any
suggestions?




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It is really hard to believe that people studying feminism for 25 years
have never heard of Shulamith Firestone (THE DIALECTIC OF SEX), nor
understand the anti-motherhood discussions that were produced by what we
now call "The Second Wave," but was then just called Women's Liberation,
beginning with Beauvoir's discussions of motherhood in THE SECOND SEX,
in 1949.

Let's remember a bit of reproductive history here:  the pill was
introduced in the early/mid 1960's.  Though it has its problems, it
offers a much greater degree of predictability and "control over our
bodies" than any previous contraceptive techniques.

Though I agree with some of what Von Bakancic stated about this, I
wouldn't agree that the main element of radical feminism was anti-
motherhood.  It was patriarchy:  the system of men oppressing women.
Motherhood became one conduit for that, according to this analysis, but
hardly its only dimension.

Reading some of the Second Wave pieces in my feminist theory course this
semester, I've noticed that my students are sometimes shocked at these
analyses, yet when I explain them, within the historical context, they
understand them quite well.

It also seems to me a small step (and one that anti-feminists would love
to see us take) from trashing feminist analyses of how motherhood is used
in patriarchal society to jumping on the family values bandwagon.
I, for one, don't want to go there.

    Jo-Ann Pilardi, Towson Univ.      jpilardi@towson.edu
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As to Brenda's question regarding the "most effective tactics" for handling
politically tinged assessments of a faculty member's student evaluations, I
know only one useful tactic and I offer it for what it's worth.  I believe
that faculty should read and carefully analyze and summarize  -- in writing --
each set of student evaluations that we receive.  This allows us to point
out where the "vast majority" of student reactions are, identify outliers
as exactly that, and provide context for whatever odd or weird comments
may exist.  If this is done with some thought, accuracy and honesty and
"attached" to sets of evaluations, it is more difficult for others to distort
the findings.   And if actual problems are identified by students, it also
allows us to validate them and state how they will be addressed in future
classes.

The downside, of course, is the amount of time and emotional effort involved --
which should not be necessary to spend in a perfect world.

Suzanne Wallace
Associate Professor/Economics
Central College
Pella, Iowa  50219
wallaces@central.edu
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As I've been reading responses to my original queries, I have been
struck by something.  "Feminist ideology" seems often to be defined by
the writings of a very few, those in a set of privileged (if I may say
so) academic disciplines.  We feminist historians don't seem to fit at
all!  Nor would the feminist economists I associate with.  "Feminist
ideology" apparently resides in literary analysis, philosophy -- where
else?

It is disconcerting for me, as a participant IN the early women's
movement in the 1970s.  Who speaks for me in some of these debates?
Many of the voices that we took as (frankly) publicity hounds are taken
seriously today as speaking FOR the women's movement -- we certainly
didn't think so at the time!

Can anyone else articulate this better?  Where does "feminist ideology"
reside in the academy?

Mary Schweitzer, Villanova University (on leave) schweit2@ix.netcom.com
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We have, as it were, reinscribed the canon it seems to me Mary.  But, then,
I've never thought that we could actually get rid of 'canons' but only that
we must be more vigilant about what we do with them, etc.

Kelley
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While I do not agree that anti motherhood is currently a strong component
of the women's movement,  I must say that it would be a mistake to deny
that it has been.  If not, then why is it that my 1983 copy of Richardson's
and Taylor's Feminist Frontiers--one of the most widely used texts for many
years--contains not one section on motherhood specifically?  And, why do
you suppose that both bell hooks and Patricia Hill Collins (among others)
have both felt compelled to point out the anti-motherhood, indifferent
to-family-stance of some variants of early second wave feminism?

As for  Shulamith Firestone, though I've only read excerpts, she certainly
seems to me to be a central figure in early Second Wave Feminism.  And, it
also seems to be an assumption held by the chroniclers and metatheorists of
feminist theory --women like Linda Nicholson (who included an excerpt from
The Dialectic of Sex in her recent anthology) and Alison Jaggar and
Rosemarie Tong, standard texts used in theory courses and both of which
deal with Firestone's work extensively.  Firestone, too, is often the
target of more contemporary critiques of what some feel is a white middle
class bias in early second wave feminism (hooks, Spelman, Collins).
Whether this is true or not according to those who were there is another
issue.  And, even then, it seems that this sort of testimony has been
challenged recently.  Indeed, even Michael Kimmel challenged us similarly
recently.

Kelley
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Try Ann Snitow's essay "Feminism and Motherhood:  An American Reading," in
the Spring 1992 issue of Feminist Review, pp. 32-51.

She wants to argue that "feminism set out to break both these taboos --
those surrounding the experiences of mothers and of the non-mothers," but
that "in the long run we were better able to attend to mothers' voices (or
at least to begin on that project) than we were able to imagine a full and
deeply meaningful life without motherhood" (p. 33).

And she has a great time-line of feminist literature on motherhood.

R.R.
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     There's also the term anti-natalism, which referred to the
tremendous social pressures on women to become mothers.  The
glorification of motherhood and vilification of the childless were
concerns.

Sandy Donaldson
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To D.K:
Yes, I agree. Getting students to write a correct citation is a problem.
My last class received a hand-out with sample APA citations along with
encouragement to buy the manual.Most were seniors. Only two citations were
ever handed in correctly writen. We reviewed the problem each time I
handed back their papers - and ,of course, I noted the error on their
papwers while grading.
Points were always lost. But, I believe college students should graduate
with the ability to write and cite works.
Carolyn Wright
ciwright@mailbox.syr.edu
On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, D.K. van den Hoonaard wrote:

> As well, I teach Sociology and Gerontology--many students deeply
> resent my belief that they should be able to write well--spell things
> right and use sentences that include verbs, etc.  This has an impact
> on student evaluations.
>
>  D.K. van den Hoonaard
>  Gerontology Program
>  St.Thomas University
>  Fredericton, N.B., Canada
>  Email DKVDH@StThomasU.ca
>
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What do you for those students who register for the class late? For
evening classes that could be as much as three weeks after class begins.
CWright
ciwright@mailbox.syr.edu

> Below is an exercise that I use the first day of class to cover syllabus
> issues. Rather than read over the syllabus with the students first thing,
> I have them fill out this worksheet. Then I have them discuss their
> answers in small groups.  I use it because
>
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Mary's post speaks to two issues I've been mulling over very recently.
On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Mary Schweitzer wrote:
(snipped)
> "Feminist ideology" apparently resides in literary analysis, philosophy
> -- where else?
>
> Can anyone else articulate this better?  Where does "feminist ideology"
> reside in the academy?

I have just completed a thesis on essentialism. After spending months
reading every viewpoint I could find on it in feminist theory, I began to
notice that a characteristic of the "anti-essentialist" position is that
the most furor over it seems to come from people in literature and
languages. It's nearly impossible to find anyone who self-identifies as
both a feminist and an essentialist, but when I look at those who are
labeled as essentialists by others, I find that the psychology and
philsophy fields are better represented among these feminists than they
are among "anti-essentialists." Oddly, essentialism is a
philosophical concept, at least traditionally, so I would have
expected such a raging debate (in the '80's anyway) to have been centered
in philosophy. And when it comes to the "essentializing" of PEOPLE, it
seemed logical to me that cognitive psychologists would have the most
input. Some of the most insightful discussions I have found on this
"structuring debate for feminist theory" have been by philosophers (Jane
Roland Martin, Marilyn Frye, Vicki Kirby) and psychologists (George
Lakoff, Rhoda Unger, Sandra Bem)!! But for some reason, the vehemence of
the anti-essentialists maybe, the tone and agenda of the debate seems to
have been set more from the direction of lit. crit.
This has left me wondering about a feminist ideology, like Mary does.

The second issue is the old one about interdisciplinarity. If Women's &
Gender Studies is to be truly interdisciplinary, then one or two
disciplines should not be setting the tone for it!

Vashti Braha (New College of USF)
<braha@virtu.sar.usf.edu>

    |"I am going into the desert where human beings are free like |
    | lions...Since the rebellion of Lilith, I am the first free  |
    | woman...Thinking of my glorious rebellion, they will say,   |
    | Vashti disdained being a queen that she might be free."     |
                "The Veil of Vashti" Renee Vivien (1904)
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Have read the book titled "Unsettling Relations: the
university as a site of feminist struggles"
Bsnnerji,H et all, Women's press, Toronto,1991

Anita Sheth
Univ. of Toronto





---"Vashti K. Braha"  wrote:
>
> Mary's post speaks to two issues I've been mulling
over very recently.
> On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Mary Schweitzer wrote:
> (snipped)
> > "Feminist ideology" apparently resides in
literary analysis, philosophy
> > -- where else?
> >
> > Can anyone else articulate this better?  Where
does "feminist ideology"
> > reside in the academy?
>
> I have just completed a thesis on essentialism.
After spending months
> reading every viewpoint I could find on it in
feminist theory, I began to
> notice that a characteristic of the
"anti-essentialist" position is that
> the most furor over it seems to come from people in
literature and
> languages. It's nearly impossible to find anyone
who self-identifies as
> both a feminist and an essentialist, but when I
look at those who are
> labeled as essentialists by others, I find that the
psychology and
> philsophy fields are better represented among these
feminists than they
> are among "anti-essentialists." Oddly, essentialism
is a
> philosophical concept, at least traditionally, so I
would have
> expected such a raging debate (in the '80's anyway)
to have been centered
> in philosophy. And when it comes to the
"essentializing" of PEOPLE, it
> seemed logical to me that cognitive psychologists
would have the most
> input. Some of the most insightful discussions I
have found on this
> "structuring debate for feminist theory" have been
by philosophers (Jane
> Roland Martin, Marilyn Frye, Vicki Kirby) and
psychologists (George
> Lakoff, Rhoda Unger, Sandra Bem)!! But for some
reason, the vehemence of
> the anti-essentialists maybe, the tone and agenda
of the debate seems to
> have been set more from the direction of lit. crit.
> This has left me wondering about a feminist
ideology, like Mary does.
>
> The second issue is the old one about
interdisciplinarity. If Women's &
> Gender Studies is to be truly interdisciplinary,
then one or two
> disciplines should not be setting the tone for it!
>
> Vashti Braha (New College of USF)
> <braha@virtu.sar.usf.edu>
>
>     |"I am going into the desert where human beings
are free like |
>     | lions...Since the rebellion of Lilith, I am
the first free  |
>     | woman...Thinking of my glorious rebellion,
they will say,   |
>     | Vashti disdained being a queen that she might
be free."     |
>                 "The Veil of Vashti" Renee Vivien
(1904)
>

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Where is this vilification on the one hand and glorification on the
other supposed to take place? I have never had children, out of
choice, and have never been vilified for it.  What settings is this
discussion about? Evidently not universities in modern times.  DP
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The sexual harrassment committee at my university has decided to survey
faculty, staff and students about their experiences of sexual harrassment.
We need a survey that will allow us to identify problematic behaviors,
even if the respondent does not recognize the behavior as a form of sexual
harrassment.  We are in the process of compiling surveys used by other
colleges and universities to provide us with ideas. where
might  i find surveys? If you have a sample of one used at your
institution, we would most appreciate having a copy.


Jo Trigilio
Philosophy
California State University, Chico
Chico, CA 95929
trigilio@ecst.csuchico.edu
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Responding to Jo's request: if people don't think there's a problem,
why is the university trying to identify these supposed problems?
Where is the authority of experience (to not coin a phrase) usually
attributed to women?  Should it now give way to the authority of
administrators?  DP
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    PLEASE post this to the list!!!  I have been suggesting such a
survey at my school since I started teaching here 3.5 yrs ago, and am
always regarded with that "what planet are YOU from?!" stare!

*****************************
Edrie Sobstyl
School of Arts and Humanities
University of Texas at Dallas
P.O. Box 830688 Richardson Tx 75083-0688
(972) 883-2365
(972) 883-2989 (fax)

On Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:47:14 -0800 Jo Trigilio
<trigilio@ECST.CSUCHICO.EDU> wrote:

> The sexual harrassment committee at my university has decided to survey
> faculty, staff and students about their experiences of sexual harrassment.
> We need a survey that will allow us to identify problematic behaviors,
> even if the respondent does not recognize the behavior as a form of sexual
> harrassment.  We are in the process of compiling surveys used by other
> colleges and universities to provide us with ideas. where
> might  i find surveys? If you have a sample of one used at your
> institution, we would most appreciate having a copy.
>
>
> Jo Trigilio
> Philosophy
> California State University, Chico
> Chico, CA 95929
> trigilio@ecst.csuchico.edu
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Mary, Firestone is Shulamith Firestone and she wrote an imp. book called
THE DIALECTIC OF SEX: THE FEMINIST REVOLUTION, 1970, Morrow.  As I recall,
she came from
an orthodox Jewish background and for her, in those early years,
motherhood was a male enforced institution which ultimately meant the end
of woman's freedom and intellectual productivity.

I've seen several books by Annie Oakely but have not read them.  I think
they are from that period too.

So much has been written in the last 28 years -- as you and I know, there
is a balance available now both in theoretical works and in life and even
in society's acceptance of motherhood and professional careers as
compatible life style possibilities.

 Miriam K. Harris, Ph.D.
University of Texas at Dallas
mharris@utdallas.edu

Private Address
PO Box 670 665
Dallas, Texas 75367-0665

On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Mary Schweitzer wrote:

> I hate to display my ignorance here.  25 years of feminist study and I
> don't know these names.  Who are "Firestone and Oakely", and are they
> "anti-motherhood"?  Are they typical of "feminist scholars"?  in the
> forefront of "radical feminism?"  Do they publish in academic journals
> or popular mags and the trade press?  Do they have university positions
> and Ph.D.s?  Scholars -- or pundits?  (George Will being an example of a
> "pundit".)
>
> I wouldn't be so concerned if this woman wasn't out there TEACHING this
> stuff.  Then again, maybe I'm the one with the wrong-headed idea that
> motherhood is perfectly compatible with "modern feminism."
>
> Mary Schweitzer, Assoc. Prof., Dept. of History, Villanova University
> (on medical leave since January 1995)
>
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I am planning a 2-day seminar on women in cross-cultural perspective
(sponsored by  a psychology department).  I would very much appreciate
suggestions for films that are easily obtainable and in-class activities.

Please respond privately.

In advance, thank you for your help.

Beth A. Rabinovich, Ph.D.
bethannr@erols.com
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At 02:22 PM 2/19/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I hate to display my ignorance here.  25 years of feminist study and I
>don't know these names.  Who are "Firestone and Oakely", and are they
>"anti-motherhood"?  Are they typical of "feminist scholars"?  in the
>forefront of "radical feminism?"  Do they publish in academic journals
>or popular mags and the trade press?  Do they have university positions
>and Ph.D.s?  Scholars -- or pundits?  (George Will being an example of a
>"pundit".)
>
>I wouldn't be so concerned if this woman wasn't out there TEACHING this
>stuff.  Then again, maybe I'm the one with the wrong-headed idea that
>motherhood is perfectly compatible with "modern feminism."
>
>Mary Schweitzer, Assoc. Prof., Dept. of History, Villanova University
>(on medical leave since January 1995)
>
Shulamith Firestone was a very iimportant early feminist theorist, activist
and organizer.  i have no idea what academic credentials she had or didn't
have.  There were no women's studies courses, let alone departments when
Shulamith Firestone and the Redstockings were active.  She was a radical
theorist who was concerned with the oppressive structure of the family as
well as the economic system.  her writings are still valuable and interesting.

marge piercy  hagolem@capecod.net
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Re: Daphne Patai's posting on this thread (which my e-mail system
doesn't allow me to quote), asserting that there is no "vilification"
of women who haven't had children and no glorification of those who
have--I'm not sure which previous posting used these particular
words (vilify/glorify) and whether that post-er was referring
to academic feminism/ists as having these attitudes toward
motherhood.  But it seems fairly obvious to me that these are
, at least in a general way, widely held cultural attitudes.That
is, that women who do not have children are often viewed as
virtual "freaks" or objects of pity, while devoted mothering
is treated, in all sorts of cultural "texts" and discourses
(not the least of which is Christianity--anybody heard of the
Virgin Mary?).  There have been several fairly recent books
on women who are childless (by choice, by chance, by virtue
of infertility, etc.), one, e.g., by Mardy Ireland, and
most of these provide more than anecdotal evidence of
the normativity of motherhood for women, within contemporary
U.S. culture but certainly not solely there.  And, even
though several recent post-ers have denounced the ostensible
prominence of literary studies in contemp. academic feminism,
I might refer Daphne et al. to texts by such writers as
Sandra Cisneros, who wonderfully illustrates cultural and
religious pressures on Chicanas to be mothers (in, e.g.,
"Little Miracles, Kept Promises).  I realize I'm drifting
a bit off-topic here, but I'd be surprised if I were the
only "childless/child-free" woman on this list who has
not been asked by many women "out in the world" whether
I have children, and then been asked, when I say no,
"why not?" (no one asks women with children, I think,
"why did you have them?"--at least not in casual conversation).
And are there really women out there who have not also been
the recipients of pitying if sympathetic looks from mothers
when one says one doesn't have children?  The common
"pop-cultural" "pundit-world" association of feminism with
hostility to or rejection of motherhood seems part of a feminist
backlash, to me, even if, as previous post-ers have pointed
out, some feminists, esp. in the early part of the "Second
Wave" may have critiqued social/cultural pressures on women
to have children and suggested that some women might find life
fulfilling without children.  Neither of these positions is,
of course, the same as saying "a real woman/feminist shouldn't
have children" and I still haven't heard anyone mention a
feminist who has expressed this "anti-motherhood" sentiment.
Much in our culture, on the other hand, still suggests,
and not only sub-textually, that "real women" should have
children.  Marilyn Edelstein, English, Santa Clara Univ.
medelstein@scuacc.scu.edu
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 Vibhuti Patel goes behind the 'frozen data' in reports on the 'missing
females' in 'Women and Structural Adjustment in India,' in Social Scientist
Vol.22, Nos. 3-4, March-April 1994.  The journal is available  at R-271;
Greater Kailash 1; New Delhi 110 048; India
    Patel analyses the context in which females 'disappear', shows how
discrimination against girls and women is exacerbated by state policies, in
particular, the Structural Adjustment Programme [the IMF/World Bank box].
Contributing factors, e.g.,less use of health facilities by women than men
(most of what gets funded, especially by Western agencies, is for
reproduction matters), the huge proportion of girls working in export
factories exposed to dangerous chemicals and generally dreadful working
conditions, disproportionately more food given to men and boys and an
updated way to express prejudice against females: female foeticide.
Generally, she notes, women have been increasingly devalued because they
can't do the kind of productive work they had done formerly.
        beatrice    bkachuck@cuny.campus.mci.net
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I am finding this an interesting discussion on what feminism "is" in the
academy -- I misspoke yesterday (or did not make myself clear) -- I did
not mean to say I had never heard of Shulamith Firestone -- rather, the
colleague was talking about feminism TODAY, and I couldn't figure out
who was publishing named Firestone NOW.  That was thirty years ago!
(Hard to accept, isn't it?)

I had said that her arguments sounded to me like those from the late
'60s, early 70s -- not arguments common today.  But she insisted this
was what contemporary academic feminism was all about.

And SHE is the one who said academic feminists are antimotherhood.
Which would not bother me if she were not a professor....

BTW, the Redstockings do not predate the first women's studies programs
in the U.S. by very much, if at all.

Mary Schweitzer <schweit2@ix.netcom.com>
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Hello,

I just tried and could not get the essay at this ad.dress. can you check
it please

thanks
dina Haruvi
Tel-Aviv University

On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Joseph Boles wrote:

> The text of this short essay can be found at
>
> http://www.one-web.net/Humor/If%20Men%20could%20Menstruate
>
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>  Initially the assumption in radical feminism was that the oppression of
>women was caused by their ability to produce children.

Nyet, nyet, nyet. Some, such as Firestone, identified this as the problem,
but in my experience few (radical feminist) second-wavers agreed with this,
and were in any case suspicious of her proposal that technology (another
male-controlled field) could be a solution. Much more attention was given
to critiquing patriarchy as a cultural, economic and political construct. I
think it is a mistake to equate articles that made it into print (few
enough in the early 70s) with the general tone of what was going on in the
movement. There's an ephemeral quality to it that's difficult to document,
especially for the feminists who were not white and/or middle-class.  This
creates problems for historians coming afterward, but generalizations such
as the above, at the very least, are highly misleading.

Also, providing child care for events was a big issue. There were often
tensions between mothers and women without children, but agreement was
general that collective support such as child care was necessary to free
women from the nuclear lockdown, so that they could attend events and be
politically active.

Max Dashu
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Saw your note when catching up on my ooooold mail.  Could  you send me the
address of your site?

thanks.

Jackie

>One of my students is updating our Women's Studies web site, and we would
>like to inclunde a link to quotes from famous women.
>
>Could you please send me your favorite quotes, and we'll include them in
>the list.
>
>Thanks.
>Brenda Cooper
>bcooper@cc.usu.edu
>
>Brenda Cooper, Director
>Women's Studies
>Department of Communication
>Utah State University
>Logan, UT  84322-4605
>801-797-3253
>
>"I think it will be truly glorious when women become real people
>and have the whole world open to them."
>Isak Dinesen, 1923
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Apologies for this repeat post, but I inadvertently sent it out under
a different subject heading.

Anyone have any good suggestions for readings about the problems of
immmigrant, professional women breaking into the professions(eg. nursing,
engineering,teaching) in Canada or the USA? The role of "gate-keepers"
 and the feminization of poverty are particular foci.
Would appreciate any help. Please send privately.
Jerry
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I did not deny that having children is "normative" (I actually think
it's normal, too) or that women feel pressures (often from their own
mothers, apparently). I denied that "vilification" is the usual
response to women who don't have children.  Vilification is not the
same thing as queries or (even) critical comments. This is the same
sort of hyperbole that tells us that universities are single-sex
institutions (male)--something I was reading recently in a 1997 essay.
No doubt it's exaggerated and unwarranted respect for motherhood (and
for children) that led to the extreme disproportion between male and
female deaths on the Titanic.  iDP
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Hi Everyone,

Recently several of the posts have mentioned the Redstockings; my
Women's Studies class and I have recently finished reading their
manifesto, along with various other statements of purpose and so forth,
ane we were wondering about a context for it.  Our anthology doesn't
give much information on them (we've found more on others, or others
include more identification information in the text itself).  Could
someone (probably privately, off list) give me a quick background to the
group, or perhaps suggest an article?

Many thanks, Jan

Jan Stirm
JStirm@monm.edu
English Department / Women's Studies
Monmouth College
Monmouth, IL
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Let me just reiterate Marilyn's description of the cultural pressure on
women to become mothers.  The pressure may be less academic and more
popular, common culture, but it is there and alive and well.

I am a 29-year-old married graduate student who is perfectly happy in my
non-maternal status, but also infertile (right now) due to health
problems.  Even if my health were more "normal," children would not be my
choice right now.  Within academic circles, this has never been a problem.
People don't ask, don't care, and don't even notice.  I like it that way.
It's my business.

But outside of the academy, people pity you, resent you, question you, and
scold you.  Parents ask for grandchildren.  New acquaintances say "We hope
you have children soon, dear." Sisters-in-law lecture you on how your
biological clock is winding down now that you are near thirty and that you
had better do something about it and how good you are with children.
Wearing a looser shirt gets all kinds of "happy" congrats on your new
family.  I have a friend who just found out (after years of trying to
conceive) that she cannot.  She's devastated, depressed, and in despair.
I empathize with her grief, but that was all she wanted in the world and
that was all that was expected of her.  Encouraging her is difficult.

While I've enjoyed the academy's freer perspective, the non-academic
world's double-bind between womb and brain is alive and well--and needs to
be challenged.

Camille Lewis
Communication and Culture
Indiana University

On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Marilyn Edelstein wrote:

> Re: Daphne Patai's posting on this thread (which my e-mail system
> doesn't allow me to quote), asserting that there is no "vilification"
> of women who haven't had children and no glorification of those who
> have--I'm not sure which previous posting used these particular
> words (vilify/glorify) and whether that post-er was referring
> to academic feminism/ists as having these attitudes toward
> motherhood.  But it seems fairly obvious to me that these are
> , at least in a general way, widely held cultural attitudes.That
> is, that women who do not have children are often viewed as
> virtual "freaks" or objects of pity, while devoted mothering
> is treated, in all sorts of cultural "texts" and discourses
> (not the least of which is Christianity--anybody heard of the
> Virgin Mary?).  There have been several fairly recent books
> on women who are childless (by choice, by chance, by virtue
> of infertility, etc.), one, e.g., by Mardy Ireland, and
> most of these provide more than anecdotal evidence of
> the normativity of motherhood for women, within contemporary
> U.S. culture but certainly not solely there.  And, even
> though several recent post-ers have denounced the ostensible
> prominence of literary studies in contemp. academic feminism,
> I might refer Daphne et al. to texts by such writers as
> Sandra Cisneros, who wonderfully illustrates cultural and
> religious pressures on Chicanas to be mothers (in, e.g.,
> "Little Miracles, Kept Promises).  I realize I'm drifting
> a bit off-topic here, but I'd be surprised if I were the
> only "childless/child-free" woman on this list who has
> not been asked by many women "out in the world" whether
> I have children, and then been asked, when I say no,
> "why not?" (no one asks women with children, I think,
> "why did you have them?"--at least not in casual conversation).
> And are there really women out there who have not also been
> the recipients of pitying if sympathetic looks from mothers
> when one says one doesn't have children?  The common
> "pop-cultural" "pundit-world" association of feminism with
> hostility to or rejection of motherhood seems part of a feminist
> backlash, to me, even if, as previous post-ers have pointed
> out, some feminists, esp. in the early part of the "Second
> Wave" may have critiqued social/cultural pressures on women
> to have children and suggested that some women might find life
> fulfilling without children.  Neither of these positions is,
> of course, the same as saying "a real woman/feminist shouldn't
> have children" and I still haven't heard anyone mention a
> feminist who has expressed this "anti-motherhood" sentiment.
> Much in our culture, on the other hand, still suggests,
> and not only sub-textually, that "real women" should have
> children.  Marilyn Edelstein, English, Santa Clara Univ.
> medelstein@scuacc.scu.edu
>
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While we're on this thread about Firestone, I wonder if anyone knows what
ever happened to her?  I include anthologized selections from her book in
my Classics of Feminism course, and generally try to give some biographical
context to each of our authors, but have been stumped finding later info on
her.  Any citations or information appreciated!  Helen Bannan, Center for
Women's Studies, West Virginia University
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If it is okay please reply to the message below on the Listserv, because I
would be very interested in that information

Tom Mueller


On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Stirm, Jan wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> Recently several of the posts have mentioned the Redstockings; my
> Women's Studies class and I have recently finished reading their
> manifesto, along with various other statements of purpose and so forth,
> ane we were wondering about a context for it.  Our anthology doesn't
> give much information on them (we've found more on others, or others
> include more identification information in the text itself).  Could
> someone (probably privately, off list) give me a quick background to the
> group, or perhaps suggest an article?
>
> Many thanks, Jan
>
> Jan Stirm
> JStirm@monm.edu
> English Department / Women's Studies
> Monmouth College
> Monmouth, IL
>
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Kassie:

For an article on this that I found particularly fascinating, read "The Gender
Fallacy," by William C. Dowling.  You can find it at
http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~wcd/gender.htm.  At the very least, consult this
 essay
before assuming anything about differences in male and female writing styles.

Here's another project:  Read books by James Morris and Jan Morris.  Is James's
work different from Jan's in any identifiable way?  (If you don't know those
names, so much the better.)

Marc Sacks
msacks@world.std.com

Susan Koppelman wrote:

> In a message dated 98-02-18 21:26:44 EST, you write:
>
> << for a bibliography, i'd appreciate hearing from folks who know of any
>  books/articles dealing with differences in the processes/products of male
>  and female writers.  respond privately and if you like i'll post a list for
>  all.
>
>  thanks
>  kassie fleisher
>
>   >>
>
> Kassie, I'm curious to know something.  Are you presupposing that there ARE
> differences in the processes/products of male and female writers, or are you
> investigating IF there are differences in the processes/products of male and
> female writers.  In either case, in which dimensions of product and process
> would you postulate that the differences are manifest?
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In my previous posting on motherhood as culturally normative, I implied
but meant to say more explicitly (posting late at night after a long
day of student conferences is not ideal) that I agree that referring
to "vilification" of non-mothers was hyperbolic, as Daphne just
noted, although I'd say that the previous posting that may have
used that term and also referred to the "glorification" of motherhood
was being less hyperbolic about the latter than the former (if still
a bit exaggerated, at least in some cultural contexts).  Motherhood
is far more widespread than non-motherhood; scholarship, not only
by feminists, on motherhood is far more widespread than scholarship
on non-motherhood.  The fact that there has been a huge amount of
feminist scholarship on motherhood--from numerous disciplines and
perspectives--and comparatively little on non-motherhood is itself
a partial argument against the claim that feminists, taken collectively,
are hostile to motherhood (which I think some anti-feminists would
expand, with no evidence, to being hostile to mothers, which I don't
think any feminists have ever been). Marilyn Edelstein
medelstein@scuacc.scu.edu
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Camille Kaminski Lewis wrote:
>
> Let me just reiterate Marilyn's description of the cultural pressure on
> women to become mothers.  The pressure may be less academic and more
> popular, common culture, but it is there and alive and well.
>

I agree with this 100%. We've been studying advertisements in my media
seminar and someone brought a Nike ad to class showing a woman jogging
with the caption:

"You are a wife, you are a mother, you are the inspiration to all
womanhood."

I was horrified! This is not only an obvious prescription for
traditional gender roles, but an implicit proscription against other
ways a woman can live her life. By creating (recreating the existing)
hierarchy of value placing "wife and mother" at the top, as the
"inspiration to all womanhood" it suggests that all other ways of being
for women are less inspirational and some pitiable.

This is just one ad. We are inundated with many, many such images in
both advertising and other cultural "texts."

Sandy Lorean
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Hi all,
    Some more comments below:
> "You are a wife, you are a mother, you are the inspiration to all
> womanhood."
> I was horrified! This is not only an obvious prescription for
> traditional gender roles, but an implicit proscription against other
> ways a woman can live her life. By creating (recreating the existing)
> hierarchy of value placing "wife and mother" at the top, as the
> "inspiration to all womanhood" it suggests that all other ways of being
> for women are less inspirational and some pitiable.
> Sandy Lorean
    If you choose not to have children, you are being selfish.  If you
can't you are pitied but given the option of adoption.
    Have you notice lately that if you have too many, you are also
pitied?  If you don't have a daughter or a son, yet have two children, you
are also pitied for not being able to produce both or ridiculed for trying
4 times and hence have four children of the same sex?

Marina C. Koether, Ph.D.,  M-Koether@neiu.edu
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I sent my Media professor some of our discussion, and he wrote this
response:

> The interesting thing about the Nike ad is how this copy on one page is
> juxtoposed with  copy on the next page, which pictures a Nike walking
> shoe, with the retort: "You are sick of hearing it."
>
> Thus, this two page Nike ad, exploits women's dissatisfaction with the
> limitations of traditional roles, by channeling their discontent into
> the purchase of a  commodity, i.e., a walking shoe, rather than
> motivating them to take social and political action to challenge those
> constrictive roles.
>
> According to Nike, liberation from the equation of motherhood with
> womanhood can be found by walking away from it (pun intended).
>
> Michael Leslie
> mleslie@jou.ufl.edu
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I would add my agreement to this - although I'm young (29) I'm habitually
considered as a sort of a teenager in my culture (Jewish) because I don't
have children - I'm considered to be not quite an adult, and thought of
and *treated* as much younger than I actually am.(This isn't always a
disadvantage, but it can be very irritating). Not to mention the amount of
pressure that is placed on me by the very same people to produce some
children -after all, I'm a married woman now.
Academia may in some places be different, but I suspect it's only because
of the inverse of the problem. WOmen who are trying to be academics are
often considered not as serious if they have children, primarily because
it *is* difficult to go through the tenure process if one is also the
primary caretaker of children.

Alana Suskin
alanacat@wam.umd.edu



On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Marilyn Edelstein wrote:

> Re: Daphne Patai's posting on this thread (which my e-mail system
> doesn't allow me to quote), asserting that there is no "vilification"
> of women who haven't had children and no glorification of those who
> have--I'm not sure which previous posting used these particular


> Sandra Cisneros, who wonderfully illustrates cultural and
> religious pressures on Chicanas to be mothers (in, e.g.,
> a bit off-topic here, but I'd be surprised if I were the
> only "childless/child-free" woman on this list who has
> not been asked by many women "out in the world" whether
> I have children, and then been asked, when I say no,
> "why not?" (no one asks women with children, I think,
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I am doing research on the Take Back the Night March, does anyone know if
there are any academic articles out there on this subject?

Thank you for your time and effort
Tom Mueller



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hagolem wrote:

> >
> Shulamith Firestone was a very iimportant early feminist theorist, activist
> and organizer.  i have no idea what academic credentials she had or didn't
> have.  There were no women's studies courses, let alone departments when
> Shulamith Firestone and the Redstockings were active.  She was a radical
> theorist who was concerned with the oppressive structure of the family as
> well as the economic system.  her writings are still valuable and interesting.
>
> marge piercy  hagolem@capecod.net

For general interest, you can find an essay by Shulamith Firestone called "Women
in the Radical Movement," in something called "Notes from the First Year."  New
York:  New York Radical Women, 1968.  This is available on the web in
http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/wlm/notes/.  The directory above this has lots
 of
interesting feminist writings from the early days of modern feminism.

Marc Sacks
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Tom Mueller writes:

> I am doing research on the Take Back the Night March, does anyone know if
> there are any academic articles out there on this subject?

    There has been a LOT of discussion about Take Back the Night on
WMST-L.  Two files exist in the WMST-L file collection that contain some
of that discussion.  To get them, send the following two-line message to
LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU:

        GET TAKEBACK NIGHT1
        GET TAKEBACK NIGHT2

        Joan Korenman

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Re Ann Oakley: Read, "Interviewing Women: A Contradiction in terms." In H.
Roberts, Ed., Doing Feminist Research.1981

Carolyn Wright
ciwright@mailbox.syr.edu
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I may have asked this question before. I am looking for a decent intro text
in social psych that does a good enough integration of gender and
international issues.  Any suggestions? Please respond privately.

Hale Bolak
hcbolak@ncgate.newcollege.edu
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> In response to Sandra: I am a mother and much more. I happen to really
like the NIke ad. It says to me, and my children, that it is possible
for me to be much more than a mother- NIke is socially sanctioning that.
And growth doesn't end with becoming a wife or a mother.That women can be
and ARE many things -including what they want to be- I think that is a
wonderful message for my daughters to hear - whether they have children or
not. This maybe the 90's but too many women still think that because they
are mothers - and most are-that their life is stalled.They think of
themselves as wives and mothers and nothing else. And all together too
many women still think they are nothing without a man- andif they "have "
a man then their life should be complete.
 I always believed feminism to be about choices.That 's what I love most
about feminism that it gives me choices and supports me  to make choices
in my own best interests  Sometimes,though, when I read responses on this
listserve,I  begin to think that feminists themselves set too many limits for
women.
I have four daughters-two working as professionals, two in grad
school.One does not want children, the others can't wait to have
children.How wonderful to be able to have the choice.All are an
inspiration to me.
Carolyn Wright
ciwright@mailbox.syr.edu


 > We've been
studying advertisements in my media
> seminar and someone brought a Nike ad to class showing a woman jogging
> with the caption:
>
> "You are a wife, you are a mother, you are the inspiration to all
> womanhood."
>
> I was horrified! This is not only an obvious prescription for
> traditional gender roles, but.......
>
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Could anyone tell me how to get to the NOW web site?  Many thanks,  DP

--
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Oh the evils of capitalism. This is precisely one of the many reasons I hate
Nike so much. As Jean Kilbourne points out in her famous video, Still Killing us

Softly, advertisers co-opt social change to sell. While I appreciate the point
 of a
positive message in the Nike commercials, I have a hard time seeing those ads
without remembering that my freedom to be or not to be a mother and wife is at
 the
expense of slave labor in third world countries. I'm not so sure how wonderful
 the
message is in this light. Please remember that Nike is being boycotted by
 multiple
human rights organizations including NOW. If you are interested, please visit
 the
official Boycott Nike homepage at the following address:
 http://www.saigon.com/~nike/


Thanks for letting me have the soapbox for a moment,
Laura Sells
Department of Women's Studies
University of South Florida
Tampa, FL 33620

> I happen to really like the NIke ad. It says to me, and my children, that
> it is possible
> for me to be much more than a mother- NIke is socially sanctioning that.
> And growth doesn't end with becoming a wife or a mother.That women can be
> and ARE many things -including what they want to be- I think that is a
> wonderful message for my daughters to hear - whether they have children or
> not.
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The address  is www.now.org


On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, DAPHNE PATAI wrote:

> Could anyone tell me how to get to the NOW web site?  Many thanks,  DP
>
> --
> ======================
> Daphne.Patai@spanport.umass.edu
>
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Does anyone have information on graduate schools with tracks in L/G/B/T
studies? Please reply privately. Thank you.


Rain Healer <rh064@csufresno.edu>
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I too would be interested in this information.
thanks,
sj walker
swalker@frank.mtsu.edu

On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Rain Healer wrote:

> Does anyone have information on graduate schools with tracks in L/G/B/T
> studies? Please reply privately. Thank you.
>
>
> Rain Healer <rh064@csufresno.edu>
>
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I thought I'd try the obvious:  http://www.now.org.  Oddly enough, it
worked.

Marc
msacks@world.std.com

DAPHNE PATAI wrote:

> Could anyone tell me how to get to the NOW web site?  Many thanks,  DP
>
> --
> ======================
> Daphne.Patai@spanport.umass.edu
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From:         Gail Dines <WHE_DINES@FLO.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Anti-motherhood

It seems to me that a central issue of the Nike ad is the way in which
media uses our lives, expereinces and struggles to sell a product. And
what a product!!! Nike is, like all corporations, involved in mass
exploitation of its workers, especially their women workers in
developing countires. How disgusting to sell Western women an ideology
through a product that is produced through enslaved labor. Our aim
should be to close these corperations down, not discuss the possible
virtues of their ads. Gail Dines
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> The address  is www.now.org
>
>
> On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, DAPHNE PATAI wrote:
>
> > Could anyone tell me how to get to the NOW web site?  Many thanks,  DP

        I'd like to point out that links to the NOW web site as well as to
information-rich websites for a number of other feminist organizations can
be found at Women's Studies/Women's Issues Resource Sites
(http://www.umbc.edu/wmst/links.html ).

        I'd also like to ask that when people provide web addresses, they
give the full form, beginning with http:// (or whatever other protocol
applies) and with a space between the end of the address and any
punctuation.  If the address is provided in this full form, it can be
accessed directly by a number of software programs (e.g., Eudora, Netterm).
However, most of these programs can't handle URLs that lack the initial
http://, and they also get confused by periods placed immediately after the
URL.

        Many thanks.

        Joan

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*    U. of Md. Baltimore County                                             *
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I would also like the information if possible!  thanks!

Michele McGrady
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Can anyone give me the citation for the following quote?:

"I don't want a piece of the pie; I want a whole new recipe"

Thanks
sasha@worldchat.com

"Pay attention to what they tell you to forget"
Muriel Rukeyser, Poet
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A few responses to the thread on "anti-motherhood"

I recently heard through a friend of Shulamith Firestone's that she
(Firestone) is working on a book, about what I'm not sure but I guess we
will hear when it is published. She is living in NYC. Also, she was a
painter (I believe earning an MFA) before she wrote The Dialectic of Sex.

As for myself, the mother of a two year old who has also just completed her
dissertation and is looking for full time faculty position in Women's
Studies, I recently came across a very interesting and I think important
book on feminist mothering called -When Mothers Work: Loving Our Children
Without Sacrificing Ourselves- by Joan K. Peters (Addison-Wesley, 1997) Has
anyone read it? I found it to be significant in uncovering the old myths we
still carry around with us about being "all sacrificing, ever present,
etc." and supportive of the basic premise that happy, satisfied, often
gainfully employed or otherwise occupied women make the best mothers.

I'd be interested to hear what others on the list thought of this book...
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>Could anyone tell me how to get to the NOW web site?  Many thanks,  DP
>
>--
>======================
>Daphne.Patai@spanport.umass.edu

http://www.now.org  This was listed in the fall issue (Volume 8, Number 3)
of the National Women's Studies Association NWSAction newsletter on Page
12. :-).
Regards,


B.J. Eaton, NWSAction Editor * Richardson, Texas * bjeaton7@airmail.net

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There's a "Sexual Experiences Questionnaire" in _Academic and workplace
sexual harassment_, by Michele Paludi and Richard Barickman (State
University of New York Press, Albany, NY, 1991).

At 02:47 PM 2/19/98 -0800, you wrote:
>The sexual harrassment committee at my university has decided to survey
>faculty, staff and students about their experiences of sexual harrassment.
>We need a survey that will allow us to identify problematic behaviors,
>even if the respondent does not recognize the behavior as a form of sexual
>harrassment.  We are in the process of compiling surveys used by other
>colleges and universities to provide us with ideas. where
>might  i find surveys? If you have a sample of one used at your
>institution, we would most appreciate having a copy.
>
>
>Jo Trigilio
>Philosophy
>California State University, Chico
>Chico, CA 95929
>trigilio@ecst.csuchico.edu
>

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sasha wrote:

>
>
> I was wondering if you have other sites that you might care to pass
on.
> I'm particularly interested in original writings from the radical side
of
> the movement.
>

Here's some interesting HTMLs you can add to your bookmark file:
     <A HREF="http://www.math.uio.no/~thomas/gnd/androgyny.html"
>Androgyny &
Gender Dialectics</A>
     <A
HREF="http://www.library.wisc.edu/libraries/WomensStudies/fcmain.htm">FEMINIST

COLLECTIONS</A>
        <A
HREF="http://www.inform.umd.edu/EdRes/Topic/WomensStudies/ReadingRoom/">Women's

Studies:  Reading Room</A>
<A HREF="http://www.inform.umd.edu/EdRes/Topic/WomensStudies/">Women's
Studies Resources (U. of MD)</A>
<A HREF="http://www.csulb.edu/~asc/post15.html">Sexual Harassment</A>
<A HREF="http://www.csulb.edu/~asc/journal.html" >Sexuality and
Culture</A>

I've got a bunch more, but I think these are closest to what you were
asking
about.  I don't know how-all radical it is; you'll have to decide for
yourself.  I've also got a few bookmarks on queer theory.

Marc
msacks@world.std.com
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From:         "Carolyn I. Wright" <ciwright@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nike and Motherhood
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But, Laura, your freedom is NOT at the expense of slave labor.It is the
result of your OWN labor. Yes, we should all work against the exploitation
of women while remembering that Nike is not the only company by any
means to do so-(lets look at Virginia Slims and women's lung cancer rate,
and other "supporters" of women- thre are manyways to define exploitation)
and we all have our own way of working against that exploitation. I for
one have never bought a pair of Nike's -I can't afford them. I shop at Pay
Less and heaven only know how many women those shoes exploit!i shop in
retailstores and I know they exploit their sales women ( I've been one)
and I eat at restaurants and I know they often mistreat their waitresses.
But I live in a capitalistic country
within a capitalistic world and I choose to. Given that,I must act, to the
best of my ability, to help others while taking what I can give to myself.
So I'll take the positive messages of Nike and use them to my betterment-
but they'll probably never get my money- unless they take over Pay Less.
Carolyn Wright
ciwright@mailbox.syr.edu
On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Laura Sells wrote:

> Oh the evils of capitalism. This is precisely one of the many reasons I hate
> Nike so much. As Jean Kilbourne points out in her famous video, Still Killing
 us
>
> Softly, advertisers co-opt social change to sell. While I appreciate the point
>  of a
> positive message in the Nike commercials, I have a hard time seeing those ads
> without remembering that my freedom to be or not to be a mother and wife is at
>  the
> expense of slave labor in third world countries. I'm not so sure how wonderful
>  the
> message is in this light. Please remember that Nike is being boycotted by
>  multiple
> human rights organizations including NOW. If you are interested, please visit
>  the
> official Boycott Nike homepage at the following address:
>  http://www.saigon.com/~nike/
>
>
> Thanks for letting me have the soapbox for a moment,
> Laura Sells
> Department of Women's Studies
> University of South Florida
> Tampa, FL 33620
>
> > I happen to really like the NIke ad. It says to me, and my children, that
> > it is possible
> > for me to be much more than a mother- NIke is socially sanctioning that.
> > And growth doesn't end with becoming a wife or a mother.That women can be
> > and ARE many things -including what they want to be- I think that is a
> > wonderful message for my daughters to hear - whether they have children or
> > not.
>
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On motherhood, feminism, Firestone and others:

"=85the first demand for any alternative system must be:  1.  The freeing=

of women from the tyranny of their reproductive biology by every means
available, and the definition of the childbearing and childrearing role
to the society as whole, men as well as women  =85 To thus free women fro=
m
their biology would be to threaten the social unit that is organized
around biological destiny, the family.(pp206-7) =85 But what if there is
an instinct for pregnancy?  I doubt it. (p.233)"Shulamith Firestone,
(THE DIALECTICS OF SEX, Bantam 1971).
There is also a fascinating account of alternative childrearing styles
known until then. All this is meant to whet the appetite to (re)read
this  basic book to the history of radical feminist thought, much of
which will still be appreciated as expressions of our aspirations -
however utopian, in a sense  romantic, it may  sound today.  I, for
myself,  use excerpts from it in my classes.
I would like, however, to recommend another book , I think important
for  feminist discussions on motherhood, which at the time of its
publishing whipped up quite a storm: Badinter, Elizabeth, THE MYTH OF
MOTHERHOOD , Souvenir Press 1980.  The author argues that there might
not be a maternal instinct per se.  For example, newborns in Europe
were, for centuries, farmed out, under often brutal conditions, by any
family who could afford it, to country peasant wetnurses where they
might have remained for years , an experience that many children did
not   survive. Personal mothering was  considered  in bad taste, an
indelicate nuisance. She argues that it were cultural changes that
brought back the idea of personal mothering, like  Rousseu's
back-to-nature ideas and Freud's revelations of the importance of early
experiences . A  fascinating record of the social history of
motherhood.   Aries's  CENTURIES OF CHILDHOOD  (Vintage, 1962)  also
throws some light on the  topic.Shoshanna, shoshana@research.haifa.ac.il
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I have on occasion had students sign the syllabus in the past, because, as I
still tell them,  the syllabus is a contract between us.
 On the first night of class I give them ca. 10-15 mins. to read the
syllabus, sometimes in groups of 3 or 4, sometimes individually, for the
purpose of then questioning me about it.  I then entertain their
questions--which generally last for 1/2 hr., sometimes more-- and in doing
so, essential elements get verbalized and confusions surface for
clarification which they seem to appreciate.
Also since the questions for class discussion based on the readings are
worth ca 25 % over the course of the semester in terms of their grades are
on the syllabus, they continually have to refer to the syllabus while at
home reading their texts and during class.

>Return-Path: <owner-wmst-l@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
>Date:         Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:08:17 -0500
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>From: "Carolyn Dipalma (WOS)" <cdipalma@LUNA.CAS.USF.EDU>
>Subject:      Re: encouraging students to read syllabi
>To: WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU
>
>I haven't given quiz or exam questions about the syllabus, but in my
>largest classes I have asked that students turn in a signed statement
>that says that they have read the syllabus carefully.  I explain that the
>syllabus is very detailed and that I want to make sure that they've read
>it carefully so that they can ask any questions they may have.  I ask for
>these on the second day of class.  It seems to help students to recognize
>their own responsibility and it usually generates some good questions.
>
>On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Traci Kelly wrote:
>
>> In all of my lower division courses, I give a quiz on the syllabus
>> the day after it is handed out.  It helps some.  It might be a bit
>> heavy handed, but I figure it's kinder than them not bothering to
>> read it and then getting docked a lot when they don't follow its
>> guidelines later.
>>
>>
>> > This semester students in my Psychology and Gender class were told that the
>> > first exam would have at least one question on the syllabi.
>> [clip]
>> > Elana Newman, Ph.D.
>> > University of Tulsa
>
>> Traci Kelly
>> tkelly@mail.crk.umn.edu
>
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On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Shoshana Mayer-Young wrote:

>  The author argues that there might
> not be a maternal instinct per se.  For example, newborns in Europe
> were, for centuries, farmed out, under often brutal conditions, by any
> family who could afford it, to country peasant wetnurses where they
> might have remained for years , an experience that many children did
> not   survive. Personal mothering was  considered  in bad taste, an
> indelicate nuisance.


Just to add to this: wasn't it the cultural norm on Southern US
plantations to have white children wetnursed by enslaved black women,
because white women of the plantation-owning class were presumed to be too
delicate for that aspect of mothering? I don't know if there is or isn't a
maternal instinct as such, but cultural constructions of mothering
certainly vary, providing an opportunity to advantage some people and
disadvantage and oppress others.

Another aspect of "constructed mothering" that some feminists have
challenged, I think, is the presumption that mothering is "pure" in the
sense of being asexual. I think some feminists have argued that we could
redefine what sexuality is in a positive way by assuming that sexuality is
a continuum that includes many aspects of biological reproduction
(eg., breastfeeding), not just phallocentric intercourse and insemination.

The idea that parenting has a "sexual" componant is unsettling to many
people (myself included) because we assume that sexualized relations
between adults and children necessarily mean an unhealthy imposition of
adult erotic demands on children. But a great deal in that debate depends
on how "sexuality" is defined, what its presumed limits are, and to what
extent our fears are a result of conditioning (by Christianity?) leading
us to  assume (rightly? wrongly? I don't know) that sexuality as such is
threatening and evil unless properly controlled.

One last reference: journalist Betty Rollins wrote a very affecting
autobiographical book called (I think) *First You Cry.* The book was
mostly about her experience with breast cancer, as I recall, but it dealt
with other things along the way, including Rollins feelings about choosing
not to have children. Sometime in the seventies, she wrote an article for,
I think it was the New York Times Magazine, about being "childless by
choice." In it, she speculated that the culture gives positive
reinforcement to women who bear children precisely because without that
positive reinforcement, too many women might choose not to have children.
Rollins writes that she got an outpouring of letters from women who deeply
appreciated her raising the subject.

Leah Ulansey
leou@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
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info services... is a project to be undertaken in conjunction with the
KnowHow Conference on women's information to be held in Amstedam
(Netherlands) August 22-26 1998. Details of the mapping project are given
below (from the website for the conference). I urge everyone engaged in or
knowing of relevant work to submit descriptions. It will help to build a
great resource for the study of women around the world.
  Mapping the World

The Mapping the World project will increase the visibility and
accessibility of women's information services for their clients.
The project is an inventory of women's information services throughout the
world, compiled by the organizers of the Know
How Conference using existing inventories and the Know How Conference
network of contacts. The final product of Mapping
the World will be made available on the Internet. For people without
Internet access, the product will be made available in an
alternative form. The inventory wil consist of data on international,
national and local women's information services, on gender
specific information sections in governmental organizations, on women's
documentation and research centres connected to
universities, and on resource centres in which, among others, women's
information is collected. The inventory will also cover
relevant media, web sites, articles on women's information, bibliographic
information and, where possible, photographic and
audio-visual material and other non-written material.

The organizers of the Know How Conference ask all readers of this to
participate in creating Mapping the World by sending
material. The material can be written, photographic, audio-visual,
digital, etc. The deadline for receipt of this material is April
1st, 1998. Please send your information to:

          Know How Conference
          IIAV
          Obiplien 4
          1094 RB Amsterdam
          The Netherlands.

Digital material can be sent to knowhow@iiav.nl

Please use the following suggestions as a checklist for the information
you send:

     Name
     Contact Person
     Address
     Telephone number
     Fax Number
     Email Address
     HTTP
     business hours
     year in which the service began
     history of the organization
     funding
     sort of organization and client profile
     services provided
     collection: Give information on the sort, size, the languages it is
avaliable in.
     Automazation of databases
     subject top ten
     systems of indexing
     own publications
     activities
     structural relationships with other organizations, companies, and
networks
     relationships with women-oriented media contacts and journalists

--SH
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Date:         Sat, 21 Feb 1998 15:35:37 -0500
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From:         Dolores Fidishun <dxf19@PSU.EDU>
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Does anyone know a good source for (or the actual numbers for)  the
percentage of women and men among women studies faculty and students?
Thanks in advance!

Dolores Fidishun
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From:         Miriam Harris <mharris@UTDALLAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Take Back the Night March
Comments: To: thomas robert mueller <tmueller@STUDENTS.UIUC.EDU>
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look at:
FIGHT BACK! FEMINIST RESISTANCE TO MALE VIOLENCE ed by Frederique
Delacoste and Felice Newman, Cleis PRess, 1981
and
MY JEWISH FACE & OTHER STORIES, Melanie Kaye/Kantrowitz, Spinsters/Aunt
Lute, 1990


Miriam K. Harris, Ph.D.
University of Texas at Dallas
mharris@utdallas.edu

Private Address
PO Box 670 665
Dallas, Texas 75367-0665

On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, thomas robert mueller wrote:

> I am doing research on the Take Back the Night March, does anyone know if
> there are any academic articles out there on this subject?
>
> Thank you for your time and effort
> Tom Mueller
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Thomas R. Mueller
> University of Illinois
> Ph.D. Student
> Geography
> 220 Davenport Hall
> MC-150
> Urbana IL 61801
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Friends I will remember you, pray for you, and when another day is
> through, I will still be friends with you."
>                                           -John Denver
>
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Date:         Sat, 21 Feb 1998 16:43:55 -0500
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From:         beatricekachuck <bkachuck@CUNY.CAMPUS.MCI.NET>
Subject:      Re: more questions about feminism and motherhood
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Shulamith Firestone, in the Dialectics of Sex, concerned with the
oppression of women, located the root cause in their physiological
involvement in bearing children - so, she recommended the development of
technology to do that. Sort of a combination of marxist requirement to find
a material basis for oppression and Huxley 'brave new world' She may have
read Marx & Engels assertion that the division of labor begins naturally
with sex, women go on to take care of the family and the gender division of
labor goes on from there by women's natural or preferential choice.
Firestone's analysis is interesting; her recommendation was controversial
among feminists and others when it first appeared, still is. Other chapters
in the book are more useful, I think.
    A good distinction between 'motherhood' as institution and 'mothering' and
analysis of it is in Adrienne Rich's Of Woman Born. Other chapters on the a
 connection between women and nature is highly questionable, I think, to
say the least.
    Please note also that the references to 'modern' and 'early', etc.
feminism and feminist theory locate these in the US as tho they were
universal. Yet, there are and were, of course, feminisms elsewhere, e.g.
Asia, Africa and Cnetral America. More perception of location could improve
perspectives?
        beatrice    bkachuck@cuny.campus.mci.net
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Does anyone have the full citation for Gayle Rubin's classic article
"Traffic in Women: Notes on the "Political Economy" of Sex."? Thank you
in advance,
Sandy
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Date:         Sat, 21 Feb 1998 14:19:34 -0800
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From:         Kathryn Feltey <felteyk@UAKRON.EDU>
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Subject:      Lesbian FAmilies Conference - Kent State University - March 14,
              1998
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An all-day conference will be held on Saturday, March 14, 1998 at Kent
State University Student Center:  Lesbian Families: Outlaws in Love.
The conference will include workshops on topics such as legal issues,
health, relationships, children, and much more.  There will be a panel on
gay/lesbian/bisexual youth and a keynote address by Karen Williams, noted
commedianne and activist.  Karen, the mother of two sons, will also
conduct a workshop on raising sons.  The conference fee is $25.00/$12.50
for students and seniors.  Included in the fee is a parallel conference
for children to be held the same day.  For information or a registration
form, contact Women's Studies (330-972-7008) or the KSU Women's Resource
Center (330-672-9232).  Please spread the word about this conference to
your students and associates.

--
Kathryn M. Feltey                       kfeltey@uakron.edu
Director of Women's Studies   330-972-7008 phone
University of Akron                     330-972-5264 fax
Akron, OH 44325-6218
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For an eaxcellent historical perspective (20th century) on this issue, I
recommend: Elaine Tyler May, Barren in the Promised Land: Childless
Americans & The Pursuit of Happiness  New York: Basic Books, 1995.

        For an analysis on the relationship between second wave feminism and
motherhood, I recommend Lauri Umansky, Motherhood Reconceived: Feminism and
the Legacies of the Sixties. (NYU paperback, 1996).  I second the prior
recommendation on the article by Ann Snitow on Feminism and Motherhood.
E. Kay Trimberger
Coordinator and Professor
Women's Studies Program
Sonoma State University
707 664-2086/2840
Trimberg@Sonoma.edu
ektrim@uclink2.berkeley.edu
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Date:         Sat, 21 Feb 1998 21:20:49 -0600
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Only a culture with irrational support for motherhood would cheer the
births of seven babies to one woman.  Note also that although she and her
husband obviously cannot financially support a family of eight children
(let alone their emotional needs), I have not heard angry voices raised
against them as I have heard raised against the "Welfare Queens" who have
children.  This whole episode has caused me to realize that when we say
"a woman's place is in the home" we refer to _white_ women (and of course
in this case prominently Christian as well).  Women of color, unfairly
represented as the sole face of welfare, are simultaneously being ordered
"back to work" even as we attack the grieving mother in the "nanny"
murder for working a mere three days outside of her home. Meanwhile here
in the great state of Texas many are cheering a state employee for
removing a baby placed with two lesbians although it was against her
official orders.  Motherhood a construction?  You'd better believe it.
And, as usual in the United States, race, class, gender, and sexual
orientation (et al) supply the material.

You may call this anti-motherhood feminism if you wish, but I call it
textual analysis which, as a literary scholar, I have been trained to do.

Diana York Blaine
University of North Texas
dblaine@unt.edu
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        As many of you know, I maintain an extensive listing of Women's
Studies programs, departments, and research centers around the world that
have a website (http://www.umbc.edu/wmst/programs.html ).  I found today
that a number of sites had changed their address (URL), usually without
leaving behind any clue as to where they could be found.  In most cases, I
was able to track down the new URL, but sometimes I could not.  I see
little point in publicizing inaccurate information.  I have thus removed
the following institutions from my listings; as far as I can tell, the
Women's Studies programs at these institutions no longer have their own web
page:

    Bard College
    California State University, Northridge
    Eastern Illinois University
    Texas Woman's University

        I think that following programs probably DO still have websites,
but their institutions' home pages have provided dead links; unless I can
get updated info, these programs too will be removed:

    Amherst College
    Brigham Young University
    University of Southern California
    Carleton University (Canada)

        I'd be delighted to add more Women's Studies programs to my listing
(it currently includes more than 350 sites).  If you know of a site I've
missed (or a current URL for any of the above programs), please let me
know.  (But please first check to be sure I don't already have it.  The
listing is at http://www.umbc.edu/wmst/programs.html )

    Many thanks.

    Joan Korenman

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*    Joan Korenman                 korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu                  *
*    U. of Md. Baltimore County                                             *
*    Baltimore, MD 21250           http://www.umbc.edu/wmst/                *
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Hello, Everybody-


                I'm currently doing some research focusing on Deaf women, and
there is some material that I had been trying to access on the gopher system,
and I keep coming up with the message that the server is down. The material is
from the Michigian State University, and the exact url address is as follows:

gopher://burrow.cl.msu.edu/00/msu/dept/deaf/deaf-alert/victorian women

                 If there is anybody who might be able to access this
material, please let me know because I have been struggling days and days to
get through. It is vital that I obtain this particular document for the
research I am currently conducting. Any help here would be greatly
appreciated. Please respond privately.

Thank you,
Deborah Nathanson
Dnjn8cats@aol.com
University of Minnesota


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Date:         Sun, 22 Feb 1998 11:10:46 +0100
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A personal observation. As far as I can remember I have never been asked
by a man when I was finally going to marry and have children. Such
questions always came frome women. (I am 42 now.) Sometimes I ask myself
who is it who "keeps women in their place" though I don't neglect the
influence of publicity, literature, society as a whole.

Jutta Zalud
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Date:         Sun, 22 Feb 1998 11:34:19 -0500
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From:         Rhea Cote <Rhea_Cote@UMIT.MAINE.EDU>
Organization: University of Maine
Subject:      Teaching at a Correctional Facility
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I am beginning a new position teaching at a minimum security
correctional facility with male and female adult populations.  I am
interested in beginning writing groups, and would like to know what has
been done for research, curriculum, pedagogy, etc. in this area.
Also, I am interested in reading on the subject of corrections and
looking for suggestions.  Thank you in advance.

Rhea Cote Robbins
Charleston Correctional Facility
Charleston, Maine
Rhea_Cote@umit.maine.edu
RJCR@aol.com
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Date:         Sun, 22 Feb 1998 11:44:55 -0500
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From:         "Kim Vaz (WOS)" <vaz@LUNA.CAS.USF.EDU>
Subject:      Caribbean women in politics
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I am posting this request for Avonelle:

I am looking for material on Caribbean women in politics during the last
20 years. Anything will be helpful: names of women, references to books
and articles, suggestions about patterns and trends.

Avonelle Carey-Fraites
State University of New York at Oswego
<acarey1@oswego.edu>


************************************************************************
Kim Marie Vaz, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Women's Studies
Mailpoint# HMS 413
University of South Florida
Tampa, FL 33620
813-974-0985
vaz@luna.cas.usf.edu
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Date:         Sun, 22 Feb 1998 13:01:55 -0500
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From:         Lea Pickard <Lepick@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Subject:      social movements in Mexico
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Dear List Members-

I am beginning my anthropological doctoral research and am looking for
information on my topic: women's involvement in grassroots social
movements in Mexico, particularly those social movements concerned with
reproductive rights and abortion.

I am familiar with many of the works avaliable through my University
Library, but would like to be in touch with anyone currently doing this
type of work.  If anyone has any information on scholars doing research
on this area, women involved in these movements, or publications
concerning this topic, please respond privately to the email address
listed below. Thank you in advance for any information!

Lea Pickard
PhD Program - Dept. of Anthropology
University at Albany-State University of New York
Albany, NY 12222
Lepick@concentric.net
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Date:         Sun, 22 Feb 1998 14:16:19 -0500
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From:         Jo-Ann Pilardi <pilardi@SABER.TOWSON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Caribbean women in politics
Comments: To: "Kim Vaz (WOS)" <vaz@LUNA.CAS.USF.EDU>
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Lynn Bolles, on fac. at U. Md., College Park, does work on Caribbean
women--particularly union activity.  She's in the Women's Studies Dept.

    Jo-Ann Pilardi, Towson U., jpilardi@towson.edu


On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Kim Vaz (WOS) wrote:

> I am posting this request for Avonelle:
>
> I am looking for material on Caribbean women in politics during the last
> 20 years. Anything will be helpful: names of women, references to books
> and articles, suggestions about patterns and trends.
>
> Avonelle Carey-Fraites
> State University of New York at Oswego
> <acarey1@oswego.edu>
>
>
> ************************************************************************
> Kim Marie Vaz, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor
> Department of Women's Studies
> Mailpoint# HMS 413
> University of South Florida
> Tampa, FL 33620
> 813-974-0985
> vaz@luna.cas.usf.edu
> **************************************************************************
>
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Date:         Sun, 22 Feb 1998 11:41:34 -0500
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From:         "Dr. Aprahamian" <aprhsma@ALCOR.CONCORDIA.CA>
Subject:      Re: Gayle Rubin (fwd)
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Subject: Re: Gayle Rubin


Gayle Rubin's "The traffic in women: Notes on the 'political economy' of
sex", may have seen several publications, but it was one of the articles in
the collection entitled Toward an Anthropology of Women, edited by Rayna
R. Rapp, pp. 157- 210, Monthly Review Press, 1975, New York and London.
According to the notes on the contributors to the volume, Gayle Rubin was
working on her doctorate in anthropology and teaching in the Women's
Studies programme at the University of Michigan.

Gayle Rubin's aforementioned article was also included in the 1984 volume
entitled Pleasure & Danger: Exploring Female Sexuality, edited by Carol
Vance (Boston).


Sima Aprahamian, Ph.D.
Simone de Beauvoir Institute
E-mail: aprhsma@alcor.concordia.ca

 On Sat, 21 Feb 1998,
Sandra Lorean wrote:

> Does anyone have the full citation for Gayle Rubin's classic article
> "Traffic in Women: Notes on the "Political Economy" of Sex."? Thank you
> in advance,
> Sandy
>
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Date:         Sun, 22 Feb 1998 14:58:09 -0500
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From:         Jill Bystydzienski <bystydj@FRANKLINCOLL.EDU>
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Birgit Brock-Utne, Norwegian feminist peace activist and scholar says the
following in her book, _Feminist Perspectives on Peace and Peace Education_:

"Applying a liberal feminist perspective to reality, one is concerned with
the opportunity women and men have to compete equally for a share of the
pie, but not with the distribution of the pie and not with, what to me is
more important, the basic recipe that the pie is made from" (Pergamon, 1989:
20).


Jill Bystydzienski
Sociology & Women's Studies
Franklin College
Franklin, IN 46131
(317)738-8270

At 08:12 PM 2/20/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Can anyone give me the citation for the following quote?:
>
>"I don't want a piece of the pie; I want a whole new recipe"
>
>Thanks
>sasha@worldchat.com
>
>"Pay attention to what they tell you to forget"
>Muriel Rukeyser, Poet
>
>
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Date:         Sun, 22 Feb 1998 15:48:12 -0800
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Jill Bystydzienski wrote:

>
> Birgit Brock-Utne, Norwegian feminist peace activist and scholar says the
> following in her book, _Feminist Perspectives on Peace and Peace
Education_:
>
> "Applying a liberal feminist perspective to reality, one is concerned
with
> the opportunity women and men have to compete equally for a share of the
> pie, but not with the distribution of the pie and not with, what to me is
> more important, the basic recipe that the pie is made from" (Pergamon,
1989:
> 20).

This may have some connection to the citation I'm looking for, however, my
recollection is that it was said, earlier, by a black
activitst/feminist/lawyer from the U.S.  I'm still looking :-)

Sasha
sasha@worldchat.com
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Date:         Sun, 22 Feb 1998 16:04:02 -0500
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From:         Patricia Lengermann <pml4@CORNELL.EDU>
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We are trying to counsel undergraduate women's studies majors who may be
thinking about going on in women's studies.  If you know of a program that
offers a Ph.D. in women's studies, either free-standing or connected to some
other department, could you please let us know.  You can reply privately to:
        Pat Lengermann at pml4cornell.edu or jill niebrugge-brantley at
jn-b@wells.edu  Please note that the third character in Pat's e-mail is a
letter "el" not a numeral "one."  Thank you for your help. pat and jill
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From:         DIana Grossman Kahn <Diana.Grossman.Kahn@OBERLIN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: more questions about feminism and motherhood
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In regard to the discussion of feminism and motherhood,  I recommend for
limited use with the following criticism the first chapter of Ann Roiphe's
book FRUITFUL.

In her first chapter she goes over the early 70's on the issue of feminist
anti-natalism.  Her point is that during these 70's feminism lost ground
in the nonacademic perceptions of what feminism consists of, and thus lost
many mainstream working class women.  Furthermore, I think that she has a
good point inthat we "We =us" lost the ground of standing for helping
ordinary working women have their babies under better conditions, that
"we"
should have taken some stands for pregnancy leave with pay, and better
supported daycare.  She thinks this would have subverted or prevented
peculiar notion that the Republicans have manipulated lately, that they
are for "family values" when their policies are very unfriendly to
families.

I have many criticisms of the book otherwise, and I am not recommending it
in general.  I read it partially out of wondering what ground produced
Katie roiphe, her daughter, whose work is dreadfully ahistorical, and
seems to criticize her own strange construction of "feminism".

But this is exactly the point of the original concern of the initiator of
this string: If an academic woman understands the feminist agenda in this
way, we have to face the fact that we are not presenting ourselves in a
fully useful way to the women who need us.  This is part of the problem
that is indicated in surveys which show that young women of the 80's who
take for granted the advantages which we of the second wave won for them,
respond  "No" when asked if they are feminists.

We academics on this line can be enlightened and get it in perspective the
function of the antinatalism in relation to women's vulnerability to
patriarchy.  However, on the national PRAXIS level, I think there is good
reason for fem. organizations to  take possession of this middle ground.
It's pathetic that it took a democratic pres. in 1990's to finally make
pregnancy leave mandatory, and its still outrageous that we do not mandate
paid pregnancy leave in America.

Diana Grossman Kahn
Women's Studies Program
Oberlin College
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From:         Phyllis Povell <POVELL@EAGLE.LIUNET.EDU>
Subject:      Call for papers

Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 17:13:39 +0200 (IST)
From: POVELL <POVELL@eagle.liunet.edu>
Subject: Call for papers
To: wmst-l@umdd.umd.edu
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---------- Forwarded message ----------

INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY FOR EDUCATIONAL
BIOGRAPHY

SECOND CALL FOR PAPERS

Proposal Information:    Individual papers, panel discussions and other
presentation formats are welcome.  (Individual Papers - 30 minutes, Panels -
one hour, or symposia - 75 minutes). Proposals should include a title and a
250-350 word abstract describing the importance of the topic and the approach
taken.

Possible topics include but are not limited to the following:
Ethical issues in life writing                Collective biographies
Role of biography in the history of education            Oral history
Plot structures of educational biographies            Feminist approaches to
 life
writing
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thanks to susan koppelman and marc sacks for their comments about my query,
and to those who responded privately with works they've found.  sorry to be
slow in answering susan's question, am fighting the el nino flu --

to clarify, i'm not really interested in making *any* assumptions; am
interested in compiling a list of works that discuss any differences the
scholar (?) perceives in the processes or products of writing by women and
men.  am *not* interested in works dealing with reader reception, as that
seems to have been covered well enough (thanks for the stories, tho!).  if
the writer thinks no differences exist, that's cool.  if the writer thinks
these differences are "essential," cool.  if the writer thinks the
differences are the results of acculturation/socialization, cool.  if the
writer's dealing with process, that's cool; product (i.e., "style") would
be a separate issue, also cool.  we have, for instance, _women's ways of
knowing_, which would suggest that there may be some work done on women's
ways of writing what they know....

anyway, you get the gist.  thanks for the help and for the direction.

kassie fleisher
amato@charlie.cns.iit.edu
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Supongo que si estudias este tema entendes el espanhol. Si no es asi
avisame y te escribo en mi pesimo ingles....
Conoces la revista mexicana Debate feminista? Es muy buena. Pues su
directora Marta Lamas dirige una ONG se llama GIRE Grupo de Informacion en
Reproduccion Elegida. Email: gire@laneta.apc.org
Podrias empezar por alli. contestame como te fue
Un abrazo y suerte!
Monica Tarducci (yo tambien soy antropologa)

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> From: Lea Pickard <Lepick@concentric.net>
> To: WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU
> Subject: social movements in Mexico
> Date: domingo 22 de febrero de 1998 15:01
>
> Dear List Members-
>
> I am beginning my anthropological doctoral research and am looking for
> information on my topic: women's involvement in grassroots social
> movements in Mexico, particularly those social movements concerned with
> reproductive rights and abortion.
>
> I am familiar with many of the works avaliable through my University
> Library, but would like to be in touch with anyone currently doing this
> type of work.  If anyone has any information on scholars doing research
> on this area, women involved in these movements, or publications
> concerning this topic, please respond privately to the email address
> listed below. Thank you in advance for any information!
>
> Lea Pickard
> PhD Program - Dept. of Anthropology
> University at Albany-State University of New York
> Albany, NY 12222
> Lepick@concentric.net
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Rhea Cote wrote:

>I am beginning a new position teaching at a minimum security
>correctional facility with male and female adult populations. [snip]

On working at least with *men* in prison, I know of the following;

Carter, Keith 1996 "Masculinity in prison", in Pilcher, Jane and Coffey,
Amanda (eds) Gender and qualitative research, Aldershot, Hants, England:
Avebury

Denborough, David (ed) 1996 Beyond the prison: Gathering dreams of freedom,
Adelaide: Dulwich Centre Publications (Includes Chapter 8 "Who is
imprisoned? Exploring issues of masculinity", Chapter 12 "Talking about
men's violence, talking about prisons", and more)

Devor, Holly 1988 "Teaching women's studies to male inmates", in
Tancred-Sheriff, Peta (ed) Feminist research: Prospect and retrospect,
Kingston & Montreal, Canada: Canadian Research Institute for the
Advancement of Women

Thurston, Richard 1996 "Are you sitting comfortably? Men's storytelling,
masculinities, prison culture and violence", in Mac an Ghaill, Mairtin (ed)
Understanding masculinities: Social relations and cultural arenas,
Buckingham & Philadelphia: Open University Press

(And I've got a further list of references on prisons and masculinities if
you're interested.)

Cheers,

michael flood.

E-mail: Michael Flood <michael.flood@anu.edu.au>
Phone: [02] 6279 8468 (w). PO Box 26, Ainslie ACT, 2602, AUSTRALIA.

-- XY magazine: http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~gorkin/XY/xy.htm
-- The men's bibliography:
http://online.anu.edu.au/~e900392/mensbiblio/MensBiblioMenu.html
-- Pro-feminist men's FAQ: http://online.anu.edu.au/~e900392/pffaq.html
-- Women's Studies Web Page: http://www.anu.edu.au/womens_studies/
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Apart from Michael Flood's suggestions, there's a book called _Prisons and
Women_ by Blanche Hampton [1993].  It's not specifically about teaching,
but would be well worth the read.  Publication notes on my copy say it's
available in North America through:  International Specialized Book
Services, 5804 N.E. Hassalo Street, Portland, Oregon Ph: (503) 287 3093;
Fax: (503) 280 8832.  I can't recommend this one highly enough . . .

____________________________________________

brook@coombs.anu.edu.au
Heather Brook (Political Science Program, RSSS, Australian National
University)
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I co-teach an empowerment class for women at the county jail and am also
interested in resources about pedagogy and curriculum.

Sharon Snow
sharons1@airmail.net

Rhea Cote wrote:
>
> I am beginning a new position teaching at a minimum security
> correctional facility with male and female adult populations.  I am
> interested in beginning writing groups, and would like to know what has
> been done for research, curriculum, pedagogy, etc. in this area.
> Also, I am interested in reading on the subject of corrections and
> looking for suggestions.  Thank you in advance.
>
> Rhea Cote Robbins
> Charleston Correctional Facility
> Charleston, Maine
> Rhea_Cote@umit.maine.edu
> RJCR@aol.com
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Forwarded message:
>From 71774.1305@compuserve.com  Sun Feb 22 12:52:40 1998
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 12:49:07 -0500
From: Cathy Young <71774.1305@compuserve.com>
Subject: anti-motherhood (fwd)
Sender: Cathy Young <71774.1305@compuserve.com>

How does Diane Blaine know that the people who attacked the mother in the
"nanny case" for working (who were a pretty small fringe, by the way;
she told TIME magazine that the ratio of sympathy mail to hate mail that
she got was about 100:1) are the same people who want to send welfare
mothers to work?  In fact, some conservatives who are knows for their
strong advocacy of traditional sex roles (including George Gilder)
have spoken out against welfare reform based on sending the mothers to
work, not only on the grounds that mothers with young children ought to
stay home, but on the grounds that all this focus on job training for
women will further undermine men's ability to fulfil the provider role.

(Feel free to post this to the WoSt list.)

forwarded by:--
======================
Daphne.Patai@spanport.umass.edu
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From:         Katherine Side <kside@ACS.RYERSON.CA>
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On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Trimberger E. KAY wrote:

In addition to Elain Tyler May's book, here are some other titles on the
topic of childlessness:

Bartlett, Jane (1994) Will You Be Mother?  Women Who Choose to Say No
(London: Virago).
(reviewed in Ms., Vol. VI, no.1 July/August p. 78)

Safer, Jeanne (1996) Beyond Motherhood: Choosing A Life Without Children
(New York: Pocket Books).

Veevers, Jean (1980) Childless By Choice (Butterworth).

Dowrick, Stephanie and Grunberg, Sybil (1980) Why Children? (London: The
Women's Press).

Marshall, Helen (1993) Not Having Children (Melbourne: Oxford University
Press).

Reti, Irene [Ed.] (1992) Childless By Choice: A Feminist Anthology
(McNaughton and Gunn).

Morell, Carolyn (1994) Unwomanly Conduct:  The Challenges of Intentional
Childlessness (London: Routgers).

There are also numerous articles in journals and other sources, but I
would be inclined to agree with a previous poster that this scholarship
doesn't come close, in volume, to feminist scholarship on the topic of
motherhood and mothering.

Morell's 1994 book (above) clearly suggests the presence and persistence of
stigmas around childlessness for women.

Katherine Side
kside@acs.ryerson.caa

Department of Sociology
Ryerson Polytechnic University
350 Victoria Streett
Toronto, Ontario
Canada


 > For an eaxcellent historical perspective (20th century) on
this issue, I
> recommend: Elaine Tyler May, Barren in the Promised Land: Childless
> Americans & The Pursuit of Happiness  New York: Basic Books, 1995.
>
>         For an analysis on the relationship between second wave feminism and
> motherhood, I recommend Lauri Umansky, Motherhood Reconceived: Feminism and
> the Legacies of the Sixties. (NYU paperback, 1996).  I second the prior
> recommendation on the article by Ann Snitow on Feminism and Motherhood.
> E. Kay Trimberger
> Coordinator and Professor
> Women's Studies Program
> Sonoma State University
> 707 664-2086/2840
> Trimberg@Sonoma.edu
> ektrim@uclink2.berkeley.edu
>
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Re books on anti-motherhood, another one that may be helpful is
_"Bad" Mothers: The Politics of Blame in Twentieth-Century
America_, edited by Molly Ladd-Taylor and Lauri Umansky and
published this past November by New York University Press.

With best wishes,

Jennifer Hammer
Associate Editor
New York University Press
NYUP Customer Service: 1-800-996-6987 or 212 998 2575



Jennifer Hammer
Associate Editor
New York University Press
70 Washington Square South
New York, NY 10012
HammerJ@elmer5.bobst.nyu.edu
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On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Rhea Cote wrote:

> I am beginning a new position teaching at a minimum security
> correctional facility with male and female adult populations.  I am
> interested in beginning writing groups, and would like to know what has
> been done for research, curriculum, pedagogy, etc. in this area.
> Also, I am interested in reading on the subject of corrections and
> looking for suggestions.  Thank you in advance.

Although this text is not geared towards your population, this recent book
is a great how-to for getting writing groups. The authors, who are here in
Tucson, mentioned that their research turned up lots of books on forming
reading groups and really no books on forming writing groups. I've used
this book in my own writing group and find it really helpful.

Writing Together: How to Transform Your Writing in A Writing Group.
Dawn Denham Haines, Susan Newcomer & Jacqueline Raphael. NY: Perigee Book
(Putnam), 1997.
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FYI.


            QUEER STUDIES SYMPOSIUM
            -----------------------
          interdisciplinary student conference

               February 28, 1998

        Health Sciences Center, Rooms 1A4 and 1A6
              McMaster University
               Hamilton, Ontario


PROGRAM:

9:00 - registration

9:30-9:40 introduction - Room 1A4

9:45-11:15 Sessions 1a and 1b
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1a - Room 1A4

Kevin Winkler (Hunter College, City University of New York):
    "Your mother is up here working!": Bette Middler, the Continental
    Baths, and the Mainstreaming of Gay Male Sensibility.

Scott MacNeil (McMaster University):
    Skinheads and Fairies - Authentic Gay and Straight Drag: Gender
    Performances in 'Lilies'.

Jason Siroonian (McGill University):
    Gay Pornographic Videos: The Emergent Falcon Formula.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
1b - Room 1A6

Diane Naugler (York University):
    Envisioning (Our)selves, Envisioning Communities: The Work of the
    Imagination for Readers of Lesbian Pulp Fiction.

Tara E. Hunt (University of Calgary):
    Queers in the Cornerstore Rag: Ruby Slippers, Wicked Witch of the
    West, or There Is No Place Like Home? - The examination of the
    inclusion of the lesbian voice in mainstream media and how it
    shapes identity.

Marc Oullette (McMaster University):
    Sexing the Garden.

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11:15-11:30 - coffee break

11:30-13:00 - Sessions 2a and 2b
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2a - Room 1A4

Loralee Gillis (York University):
    Queering Bodies: HIV Positive Women and Sexuality.

Ann Pollock (Brandeis University):
    The queers at the center of high-tech reproduction: A lesbian body
    sells her eggs.

Andrea Noack (York University):
    Towards a Lesbian Barbie?: Theorizing the Possibility of a
    Sexually Idealized Lesbian Image.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
2b - Room 1A6

Nancy Renwick (Concordia University):
    Leo Mantha and Bud Jenkins: Gender Norms and Queer Identity in
    Cold War Canada.

Kathryn Campbell (York University):
    Who is a Lesbian Anyway? A Discussion of Lesbian Jurisprudence.

Jodi Hoar (University of Toronto):
    Listening to the Heretics: An Exploration of Essentialist
    Arguments in Christian Ethics.

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13:00-14:50 lunch break

13:40-14:40 - Room 1A4

    *** Readings of poetry and short fiction ***

           by:    Rick Douglass-Chin
             Trish Sajah
            Christina Starr


14:50-16:20 - Sessions 3a and 3b
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3a - Room 1A4

Lars Rains (City University of New York):
    Settling the Score: Locating Same Sex Desire in Musicological
    Discourses.

Nigel Brent Lezama (University of Western Ontario):
    Les Paradigmes de l'Homosexualite dans la Litterature Medievale.

Stephen K. Ong (University of Pennsylvania):
    The Treatment of the Homoerotic in Shakespeare.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
3b - Room 1A6

Kyes Stevens (Sarah Lawrence College):
    The Presence of Lesbian Sexulaity and the Ideology of the Body in
    the Writing of Lillian Smith.

Wesley Crichlow (O.I.S.E.):
    Buller Men and Batty Bwoys: Hidden Men in Toronto and Halifax
    Black Communities.

Rick Santos (Binghampton University):
    Imagining Homosexuality: Poststructuralism, the Construction of
    Queerness and the Question of Inclusion.

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16:20-16:30 - coffee break

16:30-17:30 - Session 4: workshop/open discussion - Room 1A4

    At the beginning of this session, a few people will make short
    statements in which they share their experiences with and
    perspectives on doing queer studies. Following that, the floor
    will be opened for audience members to join the discussion.

    The session will end with information on upcoming events and
    closing remarks.
    This will mark the end of the queer studies symposium. We invite
    everybody to join us to the graduate pub on the McMaster campus
    for drinks after that and also to have dinner with us at a local
    restaurant (with prices suitable to student budgets).



ALL WELCOME!

registration fee:
    sliding scale - suggested: $ 3 - 10 (includes refreshments)
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Jaime M. Grant's essay in the Summer 1996 edition of Signs described the
working coalition between the Union Institute and Kitchen Table Press. I
used this example in an essay about coalition politics and am interested in
following up on the success found or troubles faced by this transition
coalition since the article was written and published. If anyone on the list
has information or citations that might be useful in this follow-up pursuit,
please email me privately.

Thank you in advance, and thanks for reading,

Alison Sherrick  '98
William Smith College
Geneva, NY  14456

sherrick@hws.edu
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Subject:      Re: Motherhood as normative

I am 34, and I have been asked this question by both genders.

S. Chris Saad, PhD
ssaad@wcupa.edu
 ----------


A personal observation. As far as I can remember I have never been asked
by a man when I was finally going to marry and have children. Such
questions always came frome women. (I am 42 now.) Sometimes I ask myself
who is it who "keeps women in their place" though I don't neglect the
influence of publicity, literature, society as a whole.

Jutta Zalud
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Diana Grossman Kahn
writes [small excerpt]:
>We academics on this line can be enlightened and get it in perspective the
>function of the antinatalism in relation to women's vulnerability to
>patriarchy.  However, on the national PRAXIS level, I think there is good
>reason for fem. organizations to  take possession of this middle ground.
>It's pathetic that it took a democratic pres. in 1990's to finally make
>pregnancy leave mandatory, and its still outrageous that we do not mandate
>paid pregnancy leave in America.

This message, does not seem to recognize that there has long been a split
between those feminists who want laws that acknowledge "facts" about women,
and those that do not.  I'm not sure what "mandatory pregnancy leave" would
be--would it be a way for employers to require women to leave work at some
specified date in a pregnancy?  Certainly, the family and medical leave
act, which covers only a small percentage of workers, is not a "mandatory
pregnancy leave"...  similarly, mandated paid pregnancy leaves are not
neutral, they are pronatalist.  the absense of such leaves is not
necessarily anti-natalist, but in thinking about work and life issues, it
seems to many feminists better not to define those issues around child
bearing...
the debates around "protections" of women workers in the 20s and the
debates about pregnancy and work today are worthwhile topics for feminist
investigation in the classroom.  i doubt, however, if it possible (and
perhaps not even desirable) to find some "middle ground" on which all
feminists will agree.

JoAnn Castagna
joann-castagna@uiowa.edu
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At 02:02 PM 2/23/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Diana Grossman Kahn
>writes [small excerpt]:
>>We academics on this line can be enlightened and get it in perspective the
>>function of the antinatalism in relation to women's vulnerability to
>>patriarchy.  However, on the national PRAXIS level, I think there is good
>>reason for fem. organizations to  take possession of this middle ground.
>>It's pathetic that it took a democratic pres. in 1990's to finally make
>>pregnancy leave mandatory, and its still outrageous that we do not mandate
>>paid pregnancy leave in America.
>
>This message, does not seem to recognize that there has long been a split
>between those feminists who want laws that acknowledge "facts" about women,
>and those that do not.  I'm not sure what "mandatory pregnancy leave" would
>be--would it be a way for employers to require women to leave work at some
>specified date in a pregnancy?  Certainly, the family and medical leave
>act, which covers only a small percentage of workers, is not a "mandatory
>pregnancy leave"...  similarly, mandated paid pregnancy leaves are not
>neutral, they are pronatalist.  the absense of such leaves is not
>necessarily anti-natalist, but in thinking about work and life issues, it
>seems to many feminists better not to define those issues around child
>bearing...
>the debates around "protections" of women workers in the 20s and the
>debates about pregnancy and work today are worthwhile topics for feminist
>investigation in the classroom.  i doubt, however, if it possible (and
>perhaps not even desirable) to find some "middle ground" on which all
>feminists will agree.
>
>JoAnn Castagna
>joann-castagna@uiowa.edu
>
Elizabethe Plante
Director
Sexual Harassment and Rape Prevention Program
202 Huddleston Hall
73 Main Street
Durham,NH  03824
http://www.unh.edu/student-life/sharpp/sharpp.html
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Hi,
I'm looking for current on-line discussions of WS theory.  I'm interested in
questions like: are WS and feminism the same thing?  what are their
relationships to each other?  is WS about biology or gender as a social
construction? etc.
Any suggestions?
Thanks, Adreinne Regnier
aregnier@aol.com
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It was feminist students who created women's studies through their desire
to learn more about themselves.  And, yes I cover both biology and social
construction of gender in my intro to ws.
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              Park
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For doctoral research on women's prison narratives in the U.S. during
the 20th century, I am trying to locate any women who have ever been
affilitated with the women and children's prison newsletter "Through
the Looking Glass."  It appears to have been published from about 1976
to 1985 out of Seattle, WA.  The core group of editors may have been
connected to the Lesbian community there. I'm interested in both
activist women on the "outside" and women who made contributions to
the newsletter from the "inside."

A full run of this newsletter has yet to be located, although several
Universities own scattered issues/volumes.  If you or your institution
owns any volumes of this newsletter, please contact me.

If you were *in any way* affiliated with the newsletter, please get in
touch.  I would like to interview as many women as possible, from as
many perspectives  as possible.  This was a very radical publication
and my aim is to explore  its impact in prison reform, as well as
document the contributions of possibly hundreds of imprisoned women
writers, poets, and radicals.

Please circulate this message as widely as you can.  I welcome any
leads or information regarding the women who were involved with the
project.

Donna Rowe
Doctoral Candidate
American Studies/Women's Studies Departments
University of Maryland College Park
email:  dr70@umail.umd.edu
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From:         Jacqueline Haessly <jacpeace@ACS.STRITCH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nike and Motherhood
Comments: To: "Carolyn I. Wright" <ciwright@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU>
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In  __Feminist Perspectives on Peace Research and Peace Education__,
(1989) Birgit Brock-Utne refers to a practice called "Girlcott" which was
initiated by women in a number of countries, including Canada, to support
companies and products which support policies and practices friendly to
women, children, and the fragile eco-system.  It is a much more positive,
and economicallly viable practice than just engaging in "boycotts".  This
is not to suggest that "boycotts" are not needed and effective (the Farm
Workers succeeded in obtaining some small gains against growers of grapes
and lettuce, as did the textile workers in JP STevens plants, and the
Nestle boycott aided women and infants in numerous impoverished regions of
the world.  However, "girlcotts", where people are making informed efforts
to purchase products that sustain the earth, from companies that engage in
just hiring and promotion practices, pay adequate wages for meaningful
work, and encourage responsible business practices in communities where
they are engaged, offer the possibility of creating real social and
political and environmental justice for women and children everywhere.
Nowhere is the motto "the personal is political" as evident as in the
consumer life-style choices we each make every day of our lives for
ourselves and our families, for our personal choices DO impact on the
quality of life (and at times, at the expense of the freedom of others)
for all.  If Women's Studies is about anything, it surely must be about
helping ourselves and the women with whom we engage, as educators and
activists, understand this basic issue in the global economy.

Peace,  Jacqueline Haessly   jacpeace@acs.stritch.edu   Image Peace!



On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Carolyn I. Wright wrote:

> But, Laura, your freedom is NOT at the expense of slave labor.It is the
> result of your OWN labor. Yes, we should all work against the exploitation
> of women while remembering that Nike is not the only company by any
> means to do so-(lets look at Virginia Slims and women's lung cancer rate,
> and other "supporters" of women- thre are manyways to define exploitation)
> and we all have our own way of working against that exploitation. I for
> one have never bought a pair of Nike's -I can't afford them. I shop at Pay
> Less and heaven only know how many women those shoes exploit!i shop in
> retailstores and I know they exploit their sales women ( I've been one)
> and I eat at restaurants and I know they often mistreat their waitresses.
> But I live in a capitalistic country
> within a capitalistic world and I choose to. Given that,I must act, to the
> best of my ability, to help others while taking what I can give to myself.
> So I'll take the positive messages of Nike and use them to my betterment-
> but they'll probably never get my money- unless they take over Pay Less.
> Carolyn Wright
> ciwright@mailbox.syr.edu
> On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Laura Sells wrote:
>
> > Oh the evils of capitalism. This is precisely one of the many reasons I hate
> > Nike so much. As Jean Kilbourne points out in her famous video, Still
 Killing
>  us
> >
> > Softly, advertisers co-opt social change to sell. While I appreciate the
 point
> >  of a
> > positive message in the Nike commercials, I have a hard time seeing those
 ads
> > without remembering that my freedom to be or not to be a mother and wife is
 at
> >  the
> > expense of slave labor in third world countries. I'm not so sure how
 wonderful
> >  the
> > message is in this light. Please remember that Nike is being boycotted by
> >  multiple
> > human rights organizations including NOW. If you are interested, please
 visit
> >  the
> > official Boycott Nike homepage at the following address:
> >  http://www.saigon.com/~nike/
> >
> >
> > Thanks for letting me have the soapbox for a moment,
> > Laura Sells
> > Department of Women's Studies
> > University of South Florida
> > Tampa, FL 33620
> >
> > > I happen to really like the NIke ad. It says to me, and my children, that
> > > it is possible
> > > for me to be much more than a mother- NIke is socially sanctioning that.
> > > And growth doesn't end with becoming a wife or a mother.That women can be
> > > and ARE many things -including what they want to be- I think that is a
> > > wonderful message for my daughters to hear - whether they have children or
> > > not.
> >
>
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From:         Jaime Grant <jgrant@TUI.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: Redstockings

For background on Redstockings, see Alice Echols' Daring to be Bad.



-----Original Message-----
From:    thomas robert mueller [SMTP:tmueller@STUDENTS.UIUC.EDU]
Sent:    Friday, February 20, 1998 10:45 AM
To:    WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU
Subject:    Re: Redstockings

If it is okay please reply to the message below on the Listserv, because I
would be very interested in that information

Tom Mueller


On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Stirm, Jan wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> Recently several of the posts have mentioned the Redstockings; my
> Women's Studies class and I have recently finished reading their
> manifesto, along with various other statements of purpose and so forth,
> ane we were wondering about a context for it.  Our anthology doesn't
> give much information on them (we've found more on others, or others
> include more identification information in the text itself).  Could
> someone (probably privately, off list) give me a quick background to the
> group, or perhaps suggest an article?
>
> Many thanks, Jan
>
> Jan Stirm
> JStirm@monm.edu
> English Department / Women's Studies
> Monmouth College
> Monmouth, IL
>
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I am currently researching NSF and the use of appeals of the US's "national
interest" to justify funding for science (proving its relevance to
society). Part of my project is to add nation and nationalism to an
intersectional analysis of science (in other words race, gender, class,
sexuality and nation). Though there is much material on NSF's initial
appeals to nationalism in the early Cold War (especially following
Sputnik), I am wondering if anyone knows of specifically feminist works
that are trying to make connections between science and nation and/or
nationalism (not specifically related to NSF). I appreciate any suggestions.

Thank you,

Nicole Trombley
tromblnm@email.uc.edu
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When I was a working on my PhD, I had occasion to speak with a very
well-known, respected and highly paid professor in an adjunct
department. I was discussing with him the contents of a class which I
was taking from him and the use of the class material for a doctoral
project. After making some remarks bordering on harassment about how
well I looked for my age (40), he said, "you have a child; you have a
husband, why do you need a Ph.D?"

 The fact that motherhood (and marriage) present particular problems
for women who are in academia is not, I believe, in question.
Scholarship and academia have favored those women who were not so
attached and this is profoundly reflected in university culture and
often as far as WS.

And, in addition, I have always felt that I was viewed as somewhat
"handicapped" because I had a child which speaks directly to the
issue of pregnancy as illness in another (?) discussion on the list.

my best to all of you.
Stephanie Chastain
Seattle
chastsg@dshs.wa.gov
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I have always used active & cooperative learning
>exercises,
>Some students love that stuff. Others gripe constantly that they just want to
>know what I want them to do so they can do it. They would rather take
>objective tests than make decisions. It's not until they get out into the
>working world that they appreciate what I did for them.
>

Sorry this may be an old thread now...

As an undergrad student, I must admit that I prefer good discussion to
anything else (especially lecture). However, I think your comment that
students resist making their own decisions until they leave school for the
working world assumes that people in the working world are allowed,
encouraged, or even required to make their own decisions. Many people in
the working world are allowed, encouraged and sometimes required to do the
opposite.

I think it is dangerous to assume that any style of learning is
specifically useful for everyone or that once you force the decision-making
process on anyone they are sure to be grateful for it once they leave the
bubble of undergrad classroom settings.  Maybe those who do not want to
have an opinion are not even suited for your area of study...

Sometimes these assumptions get established because the professor is not
really listening to the students. It can be easier to hear what you want to
hear and chalk it up to inexperience.

M jessica Vaile
Chief Editorial Assistant
_Feminist Teacher_
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From:         Kathy Miriam <kmiriam@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Redstockings
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On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Jaime Grant wrote:

> For background on Redstockings, see Alice Echols' Daring to be Bad.
>
and then go back to to the original sources to fill in the gaps and the
context.
Kathy Miriam
kmiriam@cats.ucsc.edu
> >
> -----Original Message-----
> From:    thomas robert mueller [SMTP:tmueller@STUDENTS.UIUC.EDU]
> Sent:    Friday, February 20, 1998 10:45 AM
> To:    WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU
> Subject:    Re: Redstockings
>
> If it is okay please reply to the message below on the Listserv, because I
> would be very interested in that information
>
> Tom Mueller
>
>
> On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Stirm, Jan wrote:
>
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > Recently several of the posts have mentioned the Redstockings; my
> > Women's Studies class and I have recently finished reading their
> > manifesto, along with various other statements of purpose and so forth,
> > ane we were wondering about a context for it.  Our anthology doesn't
> > give much information on them (we've found more on others, or others
> > include more identification information in the text itself).  Could
> > someone (probably privately, off list) give me a quick background to the
> > group, or perhaps suggest an article?
> >
> > Many thanks, Jan
> >
> > Jan Stirm
> > JStirm@monm.edu
> > English Department / Women's Studies
> > Monmouth College
> > Monmouth, IL
> >
>
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Dear Colleagues;
        I am writing to inquire about journal rankings for women's studies
journals.
        As part of tenure and promotion procedures, my university requires
each department chair to rank journals in which promotion candidates have
published.  I am sure that many other universities have similar
requirements.  Since I am housed in a political science department, we have
an established list for journal rankings within the discipline, but only one
journal that might be called a women's studies journal is included.  Thus, I
would like to hear from list members who have established a ranking system
for these journals, either within women's studies programs or within their
discipline.  In addition, any articles that might provide empirical evidence
(through surveys of women's studies faculty, for example) for specific
rankings of journals would be very helpful.
        I did search the archive and did not find any discussions that
seemed to be on this specific subject.  I should also note that I do
recognize how problematic such "ranking" systems are, but, as noted above,
these rankings are required by the university's procedures.
        Please reply privately; if there is general interest I will post
results of this inquiry to the list.  Thank you!   Jyl Josephson


Jyl Josephson
Department of Political Science
Box 41015
Texas Tech University
Lubbock, TX 79409
(806) 742-3121
bqjyl@ttacs.ttu.edu
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WMST-L INDEX
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Related to Jyl's question, are do citation indices exist where one could
gage the relative importance of a published manuscript, regardless of the
rank of the journal it is published in, by virtue of how often and in what
context it is cited by other authors.  This would seem to be a more
independent way to assess a person's relative contribution to the field
than some arbitrary ranking system of journals.  I am aware of such and
index for the biological sciences but do not know if there are others.

If these indices do exist, can they be accessed through the internet.
*************************************************************
Dra. Angela Pattatucci
Universidad de Puerto Rico - Recinto de Rio Piedras
a_pattatucci@upr1.upr.clu.edu

"De poetas, tontos y locos todos tenemos un poco"
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From:         Shahin Gerami <SHG226F@VMA.SMSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Anti-motherhood
In-Reply-To:  Message of Fri, 20 Feb 1998 19:24:06 -0500 from
              <WHE_DINES@FLO.ORG >

Gail Dines wants Nike plant in the South closed to stop exploitation of the wom
en of the South. Is this women of North/ white western women deciding for the
 Other women? Did we ask the Nike workers if they want their plant closed?
 Waht alternative are we proposing? I mean other than Unemployment.
 Shahin Gerami
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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 14:36:58 -0600
Reply-To:     Diana York Blaine <dblaine@unt.edu>
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In Cathy Young's attempt to discredit my argument that "motherhood"
is a construction (which she is unable or unwilling to do), she
misprepresents my post. I am not analyzing what factions make what
claims or asserting that "the same people" who attacked the nanny mom
for working want to send welfare mothers back to work.  In fact a careful
close reader will note that I use the pronoun "we."  I stand by my claim
that popular discourse on these topics has included, prominently, the
sentiments I noted.

Diana York Blaine
University of North Texas
dblaine@unt.edu

How does Diane Blaine know that the people who attacked the mother in the
"nanny case" for working (who were a pretty small fringe, by the way;
she told TIME magazine that the ratio of sympathy mail to hate mail that
she got was about 100:1) are the same people who want to send welfare
mothers to work?  In fact, some conservatives who are knows for their

forwarded by:--
======================
Daphne.Patai@spanport.umass.edu
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From:         Rachel Murphree <murphree@UTEP.EDU>
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>Related to Jyl's question, are do citation indices exist where one could
>gage the relative importance of a published manuscript, regardless of the
>rank of the journal it is published in, by virtue of how often and in what
>context it is cited by other authors.  This would seem to be a more
>independent way to assess a person's relative contribution to the field
>than some arbitrary ranking system of journals.  I am aware of such and
>index for the biological sciences but do not know if there are others.
>
>If these indices do exist, can they be accessed through the internet.



Citation indexes do exist for the other disciplines; they are called
*Social Sciences Citation Index* and *Arts and Humanities Citation Index*.
Many university libraries should have these volumes in their reference
collection.

They are available online through a database called Web of Science,
produced by ISI.  Due to its nature and uniqueness, this product is often
prohibitively expensive, imho, so I would think only the larger research
libraries may subscribe to it.

These databases are also available through Dialog, which may be available
for mediated searching (i.e. the librarian searching), possibly for a fee,
depending on library policies.  They are called Social SciSearch and Arts
and Humanities Search, respectively. In the pre CDROM/Web world, this was
the only way to do online searching.

--Rachel



Rachel Cassel Murphree, Reference Librarian
Criminal Justice and Women's Studies Subject Specialist
Electronic Resouces Coordinator
University of Texas El Paso Library
El Paso, TX 79968

915-747-6715
murphree@utep.edu
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From:         Jo Trigilio <trigilio@ECST.CSUCHICO.EDU>
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Several students have recently asked me about Ph.D. programs in women's
studies.  I searched the files on INFORM and could only find women's
studies programs listed by state.  where might I find a list of
universities that offer graduate degrees in women's studies?  someone else
recently posted a similar request and asked for private responses.  It
would be great if the responses could be posted on the list.

thanks

Jo Trigilio
Dept. of Philosophy
CSU - Chico
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From:         Diana H Scully <dscully@SATURN.VCU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ph.d. programs in ws
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.HPP.3.95.980224135339.3448L-100000
              @steroid.ecst.csuchico.edu>; from "Jo Trigilio" at Feb 24,
              98 1:58 pm

The National Women's Studies Association second addition of a "Guide
to Graduate Work in Women's Studies," is available for purchase
through the NWSA National Office, 7100 Baltimore Ave., Suite 301,
College Park, MD 20740.  It contains information on Masters and Ph.D.
programs in Women's Studies.
Diana Scully
>
> Several students have recently asked me about Ph.D. programs in women's
> studies.  I searched the files on INFORM and could only find women's
> studies programs listed by state.  where might I find a list of
> universities that offer graduate degrees in women's studies?  someone else
> recently posted a similar request and asked for private responses.  It
> would be great if the responses could be posted on the list.
>
> thanks
>
> Jo Trigilio
> Dept. of Philosophy
> CSU - Chico
>


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In a message dated 2/24/98 1:02:16 PM, M jessica Vaile wrote:

<<As an undergrad student, I must admit that I prefer good discussion to
anything else (especially lecture). However, I think your comment that
students resist making their own decisions until they leave school for the
working world assumes that people in the working world are allowed,
encouraged, or even required to make their own decisions. Many people in
the working world are allowed, encouraged and sometimes required to do the
opposite.
I think it is dangerous to assume that any style of learning is
specifically useful for everyone or that once you force the decision-making
process on anyone they are sure to be grateful for it once they leave the
bubble of undergrad classroom settings.  Maybe those who do not want to
have an opinion are not even suited for your area of study...

Sometimes these assumptions get established because the professor is not
really listening to the students. It can be easier to hear what you want to
hear and chalk it up to inexperience.>>

I don't think training students to be robots in any way prepares them for the
working world, even if they do end up in an extremely hierarchical work
structure. Teaching active, critical thinking gives them more power and
control over their own lives. Perhaps they "want" to be in such jobs because
they can't imagine any other possibilities for themselves.

This is an issue that gets discussed in my classes. Regardless of what
employers ask of them, people still must make decisions about the extent to
which they are willing to go along with something they believe to be wrong (or
simply stupid, unreasonable, unproductive, etc.). They also have to make
decisions about how they can develop productive ways to respond to the
conditions they find themselves in.

I *do* listen to my students. I ask them about their hopes for the future, the
kind of work they want to do, what they value, what their past experience in
school has been. I find that the resistance to making their own decisions does
not come from their lack of desire to do so. It comes from the lack of
opportunity and encouragement they received in most of the rest of their
educations. It's unfamiliar, and it scares them.  And if there is no support
for such methods within one's department and/or in the larger university,
their fear of the methods will be reinforced. This has happened frequently
with me. Yet many of the "resistors" have tracked me down later to thank me
for what I did for them.

Moreover, in the current working world with so much emphasis given to shared
decision making and total quality management, workers *are* being expected to
make their own decisions--even in manufacturing environments. For instance,
for a news story I interviewed the manager of a local precision tool & die
company that has totally changed its manufacturing processes, virtually doing
away with the assembly line. He said the people who are having the most
problems with the new processes are the older generations,  the ones who came
into the industry between 1945-1960, when "do what you're told" was the order
of the day.

As was discussed earlier on this list, management practices (or at least
management ideology) have dramatically changed over the last 10-15 years. Even
if only lipservice is given to the idea of workers sharing the decision
making, workers still need to be able to identify and negotiate their way
through the ideology. I.e., they have to make their own decisions.  It's a
*major* critical thinking challenge to be able to figure out what the boss
*really* wants when she/he is saying the opposite.

I tell my students that I push them to make their own decisions because I
won't be there to tell them what to do, for instance, when a boss asks them to
write a report. Whatever people write, they must make decisions for themselves
about their audience, purpose, and best means of accomplishing what they set
out to do within the political conditions of their work environment. Whatever
their textbooks say about good writing, it may be politically wise to do the
opposite.

Finally, while I believe one should listen to students' expressions of their
needs and interests, I don't believe we should necessarily give them what they
say they want & need. Our job as teachers is to enable them to be and do
*more* than what they are able to articulate when they arrive at our classroom
door.

I also tell them that it is precisely because they so rarely get this in their
other classes that I feel absolutely committed to doing it in mine. They get
plenty of the lecture/memorize/regurgitate style. They need to be exposed to
something different. They need experience with alternatives.

And I can think of no better an argument *for* those alternatives than the
cases of several black women graduate students whom I am currently coaching
through their doctoral degrees. The *biggest* hurdle they have had to get over
is understanding that in *graduate school,* professors want *your* ideas, not
just a rehash of what other people said. All throughout their educations, no
one wanted to know what they thought. In fact, no one suggested to them that
graduate school might be a possibility.

If *we* do not provide students with the opportunity to see a different world
for themselves, who will?

Georgia NeSmith
Writer/Photographer/Editor/Writing Coach
Adjunct Faculty, Rochester Institute of Technology

gnesmith@aol.com
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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 17:42:42 -0500
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From:         Cynthia Harrison <harrison@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: PhD programs in Women's Studies
Comments: To: Patricia Lengermann <pml4@CORNELL.EDU>
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George Washington offers a Ph.D. in Public Policy with a concentration in
Gender and Social Policy and a Ph.D. in Human Sciences with a field in
women's studies. (We also offer an M.A. in women's studies and an M.A. in
public policy with a concentration in women's studies.)

On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Patricia Lengermann wrote:

> We are trying to counsel undergraduate women's studies majors who may be
> thinking about going on in women's studies.  If you know of a program that
> offers a Ph.D. in women's studies, either free-standing or connected to some
> other department, could you please let us know.  You can reply privately to:
>         Pat Lengermann at pml4cornell.edu or jill niebrugge-brantley at
> jn-b@wells.edu  Please note that the third character in Pat's e-mail is a
> letter "el" not a numeral "one."  Thank you for your help. pat and jill
>

Cynthia Harrison
Associate Professor
History/Women's Studies
Funger 506G
The George Washington University
2201 G Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20052
telephone: 202-363-4356
e-mail: harrison@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu
fax: 202-994-7249
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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 17:52:18 -0500
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From:         Joan Korenman <KORENMAN@UMBC2.UMBC.EDU>
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        I am writing to ask that we bring an end to the "anti-motherhood"
thread.  It has moved from a discussion of resources and scholarly
representations to a discussion of societal issues, and such discussion
lies outside the scope of this list.

        Thanks once again for your understanding and cooperation.

        Joan Korenman

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*    Joan Korenman                 korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu                  *
*    U. of Md. Baltimore County                                             *
*    Baltimore, MD 21250           http://www.umbc.edu/wmst/                *
*                                                                           *
*    The only person to have everything done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe  *
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> Several students have recently asked me about Ph.D. programs in women's
> studies.  I searched the files on INFORM and could only find women's
> studies programs listed by state.  where might I find a list of
> universities that offer graduate degrees in women's studies?

        Thanks to the efforts of an undergraduate WS major and the WS
secretary at UMBC, the listing of Women's Studies Programs, Departments,
and Research Centers at http://www.umbc.edu/wmst/programs.html will VERY
SOON add annotation about graduate programs at the listed programs
(currently there are about 350 listings; a small but growing percentage of
these have graduate programs).  I'm hoping to have this information added
by the end of the week.  I'll make an announcement to the list at that
time.

        Joan Korenman

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*    Joan Korenman                 korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu                  *
*    U. of Md. Baltimore County                                             *
*    Baltimore, MD 21250           http://www.umbc.edu/wmst/                *
*                                                                           *
*    The only person to have everything done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe  *
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 17:26:19 -0500
From: Cathy Young <71774.1305@compuserve.com>
Subject: anti-motherhood (fwd)
Sender: Cathy Young <71774.1305@compuserve.com>

"Popular discourse" is, of course, a pretty all-encompassing term.  I
would say that at least as indicated by the media and the entertainment
industry, "popular discourse" in the last 2 decades has assumed that it's
normal for mothers to work.  (In 1990, American Psychology, the leading
journal in its discipline, refused to publish a rejoinder to a pro-
maternal employment, pro-day care article; is that part of "popular
discourse" too?)  This does not mean that there haven't been voices
critical of mothers working, at least when their children are very young
(many specify under age 3).  But in a pluralistic society one would
expect that.  What I can say with certainty is that many mothers who
stay home, particularly those who regard full-time motherhood as a
vocation rather than "time off" from a career, regard their lifestyle as
a "countercultural" one and are very resentful of what they see as a blitz
of media images which glorify career women and put down women at home.
I would suggest that many people tend to vastly exaggerate, in their own
minds, the prevalence of speech and images that they find vexing or
threatening to their identity; this is equally true, I would imagine, of
working mothers and stay-at-home mothers.


forwarded by --
======================
Daphne.Patai@spanport.umass.edu
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From:         Eileen O'Connor <s060215@AIX1.UOTTAWA.CA>
Subject:      Re: ph.d. programs in ws
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Clark University and York University (Canada) are among the few
institutions offering women`s studies programmes.

You could find more information using the Peterson`s Guides for graduate
studies. These guides should be at your university library, but you could
also take a look at their site on internet.

Good luck.

R. Tremblay
University of Ottawa

On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Jo Trigilio wrote:

> Several students have recently asked me about Ph.D. programs in women's
> studies.  I searched the files on INFORM and could only find women's
> studies programs listed by state.  where might I find a list of
> universities that offer graduate degrees in women's studies?  someone else
> recently posted a similar request and asked for private responses.  It
> would be great if the responses could be posted on the list.
>
> thanks
>
> Jo Trigilio
> Dept. of Philosophy
> CSU - Chico
>
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Date:         Wed, 25 Feb 1998 00:28:46 +0000
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From:         Judy Evans <jae2@YORK.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Journal Rankings--Women's Studies
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On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Rachel Murphree wrote:

> Citation indexes do exist for the other disciplines; they are called
> *Social Sciences Citation Index* and *Arts and Humanities Citation Index*.
> Many university libraries should have these volumes in their reference
> collection.

We do, and we, and our Library, are not rich!

> They are available online through a database called Web of Science,
> produced by ISI.  Due to its nature and uniqueness, this product is often
> prohibitively expensive, imho, so I would think only the larger research
> libraries may subscribe to it.

Here we have nationally-arranged cheap access to such material:
I don't know whether the link is to the Web of Science, I think
not.
Access is almost always direct, but we have to register with the
services involved.

There are of course doubts about citation counts as an
indicator of quality -- the national research assessment
scheme, which evaluates all departments in the UK
every 5 years, dropped them as being too mechanical
and insufficiently reliable.
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Judy Evans          jae2@york.ac.uk
Typing, Dragon Dictate's. Opinions mine
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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 20:44:07 -0500
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From:         "William W. Pendleton" <socwwp@EMORY.EDU>
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I have always found the ranking of journals a rather silly game.  The best
journals, at least in my field, have some rather poor stuff, and there is
some rather good stuff found in other places.  Departments surrender their
proper authority when they play this game, especially if they put too much
emphasis on it.  Evaluate the work itself, is it good scholarship and
does it show promise of more to come.  That is the important question.
Journals, even the best, are subject to fads and fashions in terms of
methods and topics.  Rely too much on them fails not only the candidate,
but scholarship generally which is demonstrated by the work itself and
should be evaluated by the qualified faculty.  If I had my way, reviewers
outside the department would not receive a curriculum vitae and the
research they evaluated would be in manuscript form only, no publisher
indicated. After all, what we seek is their evaluation of the
scholarship, not their impression of how others evaluate it.  Internally,
I think we would be better served if we did the same.  Current populatity
in the field of ideas is only a weak indicator of quality which, if given
too much emphasis, distorts our purpose.

 Wm W. Pendleton
Department of Sociology
Emory University
Atlanta, Ga. 30322
socwwp@emory.edu
404 727-7524
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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:04:40 -0500
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From:         Gail Dines <WHE_DINES@FLO.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Anti-motherhood

I think the first question to ask regarding Shahin Gerami's post is
did the West ever ask the women in developing countriesif they
wanted western capitalists to set up shop in their countires, take
land from the people and destroy the local economies? Gail Dines
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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:21:43 -0500
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From:         beatricekachuck <bkachuck@CUNY.CAMPUS.MCI.NET>
Subject:      Re: encouraging students to read syllabi
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If you think of a syllabus as a contract that professors write and students
must sign, you're getting a coerced agreement. The principle of contracts
is that they are instruments to which two parties agree after negotiation.
Of course, there is often coercion involved, when one party has more power
than the other. However, when one of the signers has not even an
opportunity to negotiate the agreement ...
        beatrice    bkachuck@cuny.campus.mci.net

At 09:00 AM 2/21/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I have on occasion had students sign the syllabus in the past, because, as I
>still tell them,  the syllabus is a contract between us.
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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 22:58:57 -0500
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Help!  I'm a panelist on an upcoming panel at our Women's Center on "Who
Is Beautiful? Attaining Multicultural Definitions of Beauty" and am  looking
for some exemplary books (or articles on this topic).   I'm especially
interested in literature related to beauty standards and ideals for Latinas
and Middle Eastern women (recognizing of course that both groups are
geographically/regionally/culturally diverse groups).

I've references such as the "Beauty Myth", and some great articles from
various women's studies and psychology of women anthologies, but
would like to know if there are any must-reads that I should check out?
Please respond to me privately.   Thanks much.

Best wishes,


Lisa Bowleg, Ph.D.
Women's Studies Program
Georgetown University, ICC 587
Washington, DC 20057
Telephone: (202) 687-3115
E-mail: bowlegl@gunet.georgetown.edu
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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 22:59:39 -0500
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I'm especially interested in beauty standards and ideals for Latinas and
Middle Eastern women (recognizing of course that both groups are
geographically/regionally/culturally diverse groups).
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Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 23:39:19 -0500
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From:         Arnie Kahn <kahnas@JMU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: anti-motherhood (fwd)
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On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, DAPHNE PATAI wrote: (actually forwarded)

> "Popular discourse" is, of course, a pretty all-encompassing term.  I
> would say that at least as indicated by the media and the entertainment
> industry, "popular discourse" in the last 2 decades has assumed that it's
> normal for mothers to work.  (In 1990, American Psychology, the leading
> journal in its discipline, refused to publish a rejoinder to a pro-
> maternal employment, pro-day care article; is that part of "popular
> discourse" too?)

I'd just mention for the record that there is no journal called
American Psychology.

Arnie

Arnie Kahn   kahnas@jmu.edu
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From:         Batya Weinbaum <Batyawein@AOL.COM>
Subject:      motherhood (not anti) but feminist at NWSA

Anyone who wants to continue the discussion on the experience of being a
mother in academe, we have a roundtable at the next NWSA on Feminist
Motherhood:  From Individual Suffering to Social Activism.  Many similar
stories will probably be told--about the director of the dis. who said why
did I need a phd, now that I had a baby. . .We are also going to have a
follow up afterwards about activism within NWSA on motherhood issues.  Batya
Weinbaum East Hardwick VT batyawein@aol.com
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I am a graduate student in Sociology at the University of Montana-Missoula
in search of a website or other resource that is related to evaluating a
Women's Studies program.  My thesis topic is studying the impacts of U of
M's WS department, and I would like see if anyone knows of a study that has
been done in the past or is presently taking place.  Datasets on the
internet are proving very hard to come by.  Any information would be much
appreciated.  Please post here, or email me privately.

Thank-you,
Stacy Rye
University of Montana-Missoula
chrisw@mssl.uswest.net
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From:         Katherine Side <kside@ACS.RYERSON.CA>
Subject:      Re: ph.d. programs in ws
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I thought I'd post this to the list generally as this question often comes
up.  Althought it is not the only source or the definitive source of
information about Ph.D. programmes, it might help to look at the
Anniversary Issue of Women's Studies Quarterly (Spring/Summer 1997).
The theme of the issue was Looking Back, Moving Forward:
25 Years of Women's Studies History, and this issue
it contains some articles about Ph. D. programmes in Women's Studies;
see "The Women's Studies Ph.D.: A Report from the Field" by Ann B. Shteir
pp. 388-403.  At the end of the article, she lists contacts for the
programmes discussed.

Hope this helps,

Katherine Side
kside@acs.ryerson.ca

Department of Sociology
Ryerson Polytechnic University
350 Victoria Street
Toronto, Ontario
Canada
M5B 2K3

On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Jo Trigilio wrote:

> Several students have recently asked me about Ph.D. programs in women's
> studies.  I searched the files on INFORM and could only find women's
> studies programs listed by state.  where might I find a list of
> universities that offer graduate degrees in women's studies?  someone else
> recently posted a similar request and asked for private responses.  It
> would be great if the responses could be posted on the list.
>
> thanks
>
> Jo Trigilio
> Dept. of Philosophy
> CSU - Chico
>
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Date:         Wed, 25 Feb 1998 09:39:18 -0500
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Cathy Young wrote:


> > What I can say with certainty is that many mothers who
> >stay home, particularly those who regard full-time motherhood as a
> >vocation rather than "time off" from a career, regard their lifestyle as
> >a "countercultural" one and are very resentful of what they see as a blitz
> >of media images which glorify career women and put down women at home.

I have often wondered if the rise of religious fundamentalism, especially
among women, is related to this sense of full-time motherhood as
"countercultural."  Since a lot of it grew up around opposition to abortion,
acceptance of gays and lesbians, and to the general "mainstream" culture, I
suspect that "traditional"-type people with nowhere else to go have been drawn
to movements that support and validate the way they've been living all along.
Regardless of the agenda of the leaders of the Religious Right, many of the
followers, including far more women than one would expect in such a
patriarchal movement, simply want to find safety in a world they find
crumbling or no longer accepted.

Marc Sacks
msacks@world.std.com
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Jacqueline Haessly <jacpeace@ACS.STRITCH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ph.d. programs in ws
Comments: To: Jo Trigilio <trigilio@ECST.CSUCHICO.EDU>
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The Union Institute offers Ph.D programs in WOmen's Studies, as well as in
public policy as related to women's studies.  ALso has  strong faculty
support for studies in G/L/B.

Please add The Union Institute, which has an established "Center for
Public Policy" Women's Center, and Office for Social Responsibility in DC.
The Union Institute offers both undergraduate and doctoral level degrees,
and includes outstanding women studies faculty:  Chandra Talpade Mohnaty,
Rita Ardetti, Judith Arcana, Rhoda Linton, Elizabeth Minnich, Minnie Bruce
Pratt, Mary Sheerin, Among others.  TUI's Women's Center
sponsors the annual Audre Lorde award for integration of scholarship with
community need.  Call 1-800-486-3116, or the Women's Center -
1-202-667-1313

Peace,  Jacqueline Haessly   jacpeace@acs.stritch.edu   Image Peace!






On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Jo Trigilio wrote:

> Several students have recently asked me about Ph.D. programs in women's
> studies.  I searched the files on INFORM and could only find women's
> studies programs listed by state.  where might I find a list of
> universities that offer graduate degrees in women's studies?  someone else
> recently posted a similar request and asked for private responses.  It
> would be great if the responses could be posted on the list.
>
> thanks
>
> Jo Trigilio
> Dept. of Philosophy
> CSU - Chico
>
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Date:         Wed, 25 Feb 1998 08:29:41 -0800
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Kathy Miriam <kmiriam@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Anti-motherhood
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In addition to Gail's point,
another response to Shahin's post:
I believe that objections to Nike are hardly the sole or exclusive
product of Western women but reflect international coalitions of workers
within the US and outside of the West, as well as other coalitions of
activists and intellectuals.  Shutting down these plants is one ideal--as
is ending capitalism; shorter term strategies involve many other tactics
such as boycotts, education and so forth.

Kathy Miriam
kmiriam@cats.ucsc.edu

On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Gail Dines wrote:

> I think the first question to ask regarding Shahin Gerami's post is
> did the West ever ask the women in developing countriesif they
> wanted western capitalists to set up shop in their countires, take
> land from the people and destroy the local economies? Gail Dines
>
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Date:         Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:44:49 -0600
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
From:         Angela Pattatucci <a_pattatucci@UPR1.UPR.CLU.EDU>
Subject:      Invitation to Activism
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The Puerto Rico Status Act, sponsored by Rep. Don Young of Hawaii, that is
supposed to give the people of Puerto Rico a genuine opportunity for
self-determination, is expected to be debated on the House floor in early
March.  Rep. Gerald Solomon (N.Y.), head of the rules committee, was
quoted in the Feb. 21st issue of El Vocero (one of the 3 major newspapers
here) as wanting members of the Congress to have an "open and honest
debate regarding
the *appropriateness* of allowing such a large group of Hispanics to enter
into the union" (translated from Spanish -- emphasis mine).

I have written a summary of the issues surrounding Gerald Solomon and the
Puerto Rico status act along with a call for activism to combat this and
other xenophobic and racist attitudes toward Puerto Ricans and Latino
people in general.  Please write to me personally for a copy, if this
interests you.  Feel free to post it for students in your department to
read.

The issues surrounding the Puerto Rico Status Act would serve as a good
contemporary platform to introduce and explore issues surrounding race,
class, gender, culture, and what it means to be privileged.  I would be
happy to help interested parties.  Again write to me personally.

Dra. Angela Pattatucci
Universidad de Puerto Rico - Recinto de Rio Piedras
a_pattatucci@upr1.upr.clu.edu
"De poetas, tontos y locos todos tenemos un poco"
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From:         Angela Pattatucci <a_pattatucci@UPR1.UPR.CLU.EDU>
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By concentrating on the content of ads we often miss another equally
important issue that is expressed in the quote below.

". . . When one sees the images of women in television and advertisin=
g,
it's hard not to drown in a pool of insecurity.  For example, who can
forget the portrayal of a =91complete=92 woman presented in the telev=
ision
commercial for Enjolie perfume.  She was able to (1) bring home the b=
acon
(career), (2) fry it in a pan (domestic expertise), and (3) never let=
 her
romantic partner forget that he was a man (sensuality).  All of this,=
 and
she was physically attractive and had a great singing voice!  I grew =
up
with the feeling that women were to be all-powerful, wonderful,
career-oriented, super-wives and mothers who freelanced as runway mod=
els.=20
And yet, I was never instilled with the confidence that I could achie=
ve
even one tenth of that image."

Olsen, Kimberly G. (1998).  Women, Science and Self-Esteem.  In:=20
Pattatucci, A.M. (Ed.), Women in Science: Meeting Challenges and
Transcending Boundaries.  Sage Publications: Thousand Oaks, CA., pp.
61-66.
*************************************************************
Dra. Angela Pattatucci
Universidad de Puerto Rico - Recinto de Rio Piedras
a_pattatucci@upr1.upr.clu.edu

"De poetas, tontos y locos todos tenemos un poco"=20
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From:         Stacey Meadow <sm445@COLUMBIA.EDU>
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Alright - I realise this is a somewhat odd request...  but does anyone
know of any contemporary french lesbian (or feminist) poets, who deal with
with either one or both of those topics explicitly in their work?  (I'm
taking an undergraduate level french lit analysis class - and if we read
one more misogynist piece about some dead man's wife, I'm going to
scream.)
Info is much appreciated - feel free to respond privately.
Stacey

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Stacey Meadow                                          Barnard College
sm445@columbia.edu                           Women'sStudies/Psychology

VIEW MY BRAND NEW WEBSITE AT:  http://www.columbia.edu/~sm445

I'm the sanest person in my world.
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Helene Cixous will be coming to Stanford on March 16 as part of the
Presidential Lectures Series.  For more information see the press release
below.  There will be an accompanying web site at

  http://prelectur.stanford.edu/lecturers/cixous/index.html

on March 2.

Kathy Kerns
Reference Librarian/Feminist Studies
Stanford University


http://prelectur.stanford.edu/

   A team composed of Humanities and Area Studies Resource Group curators
(HASG), Research and Instructional Technologies Support Group staff (RITS),
and Library Systems staff is designing and editing content for a web site in
support of the recently announced Stanford Presidential Lectures and
Symposia in the Humanities and Arts (SPLSHA).  This project will be managed
by HASG, drawing upon the editorial and subject expertise of its curatorial
staff.  The project team is composed of Peter Blank (Art & Architecture
Library) and Adan Griego (Latin & Iberian Collections), Site Co-Editors,
Jennifer Kindred (RITS), Site Designer, and Jonathan Lavigne (Systems), Web
Sovereign.

   The series, directed by Professor Hans "Sepp" Gumbrecht, will bring
several distinguished scholars, artists and critics to the Stanford
University campus for lectures, panel discussions, and a variety of related
interactions with faculty and students.  Funded by the President's Office,
the program will explore new roles and relationships for the Humanities and
Arts in the academic community as we approach the 21st Century.

   The web site will consist of a main space devoted to the lectures and
symposia, with a speakers' calendar, links to the Humanities and Arts at
Stanford, and an ongoing discussion component focusing on specific questions
posted by Gumbrecht, as well as INDIVIDUAL SITES on the participating
lecturers, authored primarily by curators from within HASG.  The SPLSHA
lecture schedule for Winter and Spring Quarter, along with the individual
site authors, is as follows:

Christo and Jeanne-Claude, March 2; Site Author, Peter Blank.

Peter Eisenman, March 9; Site Author, Peter Blank.

Helene Cixous, March 16; Site Author, Mary Jane Parrine (Romance Languages
Collections).

Harold Bloom, May 18; Site Author, Bill McPheron (William Saroyan Curator
for British and American Literature).

   Please visit the site for additional information regarding scheduled
events.  Each speaker will also participate in a discussion panel.  All
events are free and open to the public.

   The Christo and Jeanne-Claude site is now up, the Eisenman site will be
up very soon, with the Cixous site to follow.  Please explore the texts,
images, and links on each of these sites.

http://prelectur.stanford.edu/

Regards,

Peter Blank
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I am looking for help in locating some information about the 1998 New Mexico
Women's Studies conference in Las Cruces, March 19-21. I have been checking
different web sites and women's studies calendars, but I was not successful.
I would greatly appreciate it if somebody could help me with this.  Thanks.
Anna Zajicek.
Anna Zajicek, PhD
Department of Sociology
University of Arkansas
211 Old Main
Fayetteville, AR 72701
ph. (501)575-5149
e-mail azajicek@comp.uark.edu
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>
>
>
>From: Phillipa Kafka <kafka@pop.cybernex.net>
>Subject: Re: encouraging students to read syllabi
>
>Dear Beatrice:
>Students are not powerless.  They voluntarily enroll in university.  Going
>beyond school, after 18, is a privilege, not a right under the law.
>
>When they enroll in university, the primary contract, they agree to certain
>stated conditions in the student handbook and elsewhere, and, in terms of
>our discussion, in the  catalogue offerings, which is perhaps, the next most
>important contract made between them and their schools.
>  They see what they have to take if they wish to major in something, what
>they have to take to get a degree, when the courses are given, what
>days/nights. This is what the university believes will prepare them for
>afterwards--at any given time.  We all know that requirements and electives
>change over time. But when they enroll, they are essentially agreeing to
>abide by the rules and regulations, the requirements in effect at the time
>of their enrollment.
>  Even after they have made certain decisions about courses to take,
>students can drop out, change majors, minors, and in terms of many courses,
>at least where I teach, there are various sections of those courses.  For
>example, what I teach, a general education course, Landmarks of World
>Literature, has a huge amount of sections, a very large pool from which the
>students can choose.  They have a period of time to withdraw with a 100%
>refund, go to another class, they have another period of time to withdraw
>with a 50% refund, and even after that, many of us are liberal in permitting
>students who wish to withdraw far into the semester, although they do lose
>their money.
>Another reason that they are not totally supine victims of the system,
>students, and I remember this from my own experience, also have grapevines.
>They tell their friends whom to take, whom to avoid.
>
>Some years ago our department requested that we inform the students that
>they are under contract and gave us a form for their signatures to agree to,
>although I had thought of the idea more infomrally than that, and I haven't
>used it in years, taking advantage of my seniority.  But I still do say it
>verbally, on occasion.  What I do dispute is that students are customers and
>that the customer is always right, which has nothing to do with Beatrice's
>position, but was a thread on the web in defining what students are.
>
>Also, I don't think of a contract as necessarily adversarial between
>students and a university/and professors, although I do agree with Beatrice
>that  a contractual relationship between involuntary signatories, as would
>be the case with mandated education, as with public school and high school
>students, is irrational.  Ultimately, going to university is voluntary and
>not a legal necessity. Parents don't have to send children to university and
>children over 18 don't have to agree to go, or children can go, even if
>parents object (as in my case).
>Phillipa.
>P.S.
>>Return-Path: <owner-wmst-l@UMDD.UMD.EDU>
>>X-Sender: bkachuck@cuny.campus.mci.net
>>Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:21:43 -0500
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>>From: beatricekachuck <bkachuck@CUNY.CAMPUS.MCI.NET>
>>Subject:      Re: encouraging students to read syllabi
>>To: WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU
>>
>>If you think of a syllabus as a contract that professors write and students
>>must sign, you're getting a coerced agreement. The principle of contracts
>>is that they are instruments to which two parties agree after negotiation.
>>Of course, there is often coercion involved, when one party has more power
>>than the other. However, when one of the signers has not even an
>>opportunity to negotiate the agreement ...
>>        beatrice    bkachuck@cuny.campus.mci.net
>>
>>At 09:00 AM 2/21/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>>I have on occasion had students sign the syllabus in the past, because, as I
>>>still tell them,  the syllabus is a contract between us.
>>
>>
>Dr. Phillipa Kafka
>Professor of English and
>Director of Women's Studies
>Women's Studies J303
>Kean University
>Union, New Jersey 07083
>
>
Dr. Phillipa Kafka
Professor of English and
Director of Women's Studies
Women's Studies J303
Kean University
Union, New Jersey 07083
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From:         "Dr. Isabelle White" <wmswhite@ACS.EKU.EDU>
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    I'm requesting information for a student who's doing a research
project for which she wants to use either Womanist Identity Attitude Scale
or a similar scale.
    Could anyone provide information about the availability and use of
such scales?
    Respond privately to wmswhite@acs.eku.edu and I'll pass the
information along to her.
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You might be interested in any essay, "Inside a Moroccan Bath" by Hanan al-
Shaykh in MINDING THE BODY ed. by Patricia Foster.
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From:         "Vashti K. Braha" <braha@VIRTU.SAR.USF.EDU>
Subject:      Re: French lesbian poets???
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How contemporary must a French lesbian/feminist poet be for your class?
Just in case the Edwardian decade is not too early, I would really
recommend Renee Vivien as an antidote to the usual stupid assigned
readings for undergrads. Naiad Press published English translations of her
poetry in the 1970's. (She wrote poetry from about 1900-1909). There is a
website of lesbian love poetry that features Renee Vivien, and I think the
original French versions are available there.

I found it searching for "renee vivien".

I also forwarded your request on to a professor of French (officially) and
of Gender Studies (unofficially) and she'll probably reply privately.

Vashti

    |"I am going into the desert where human beings are free like |
    | lions...Since the rebellion of Lilith, I am the first free  |
    | woman...Thinking of my glorious rebellion, they will say,   |
    | Vashti disdained being a queen that she might be free."     |
                "The Veil of Vashti" Renee Vivien (1904)
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I am searching for a word or an expression that describes the opposite of
misogyny.

Please respond privately.

Judith Robinson Chanin
JRChanin@aol.com
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From:         Michael Kimmel <mkimmel@DATALAB2.SBS.SUNYSB.EDU>
Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook
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> I am sending this information to the list with the hopes that some of you
> may be interested in participating in any of the activities.  Please post,
> resend to other lists etc.
>
Thank you
Michael Kimmel
-----------------------------------------------------


>
>
>                         23rd NATIONAL CONFERENCE ON MEN AND MASCULINITY
>
>                                         6-9 August 1998
>                                         SUNY at Stony Brook
>                                         Stony Brook, NY
>
>
> The National Organization for Men Against Sexism (NOMAS) announces the 23rd
> National Conference on Men and Masculinity, 6-9 August 1998, at SUNY at
> Stony Brook, Stony Brook, NY.  (For those unfamiliar with the geography,
> Stony Brook is a suburb of New York City, about 1 1/2 hours away, on the
> north shore of Long Island.  It is near world famous beaches, vacation
> spots, and the state's growing wine industry.)
>
> This year's theme for the conference is PROFEMINIST MEN, 2000: COMMITTED TO
> JUSTICE, WORKING FOR CHANGE
> Keynote speakers will include Gloria Steinem, Jill Nelson and Martin
> Duberman.
>
> Workshop proposals may be sent - by 1 May - directly to the conference
> coordinator:
>         Sue Brown
>         M&M Conference
>         P.O. Box 481
>         Mastic, NY 11950
>
> email address: mm23conf@aol.com
>
>
> The M&M Conference is annually preceded by three one-day institutes, all on
> 6 August:
>         (1) Ending Men's Violence
>         (2) Profeminist Men's Studies
>         (3) Homophobia Education
>
> This year, the EMV institute will bring together some of the leaders from
> some of the major Batterer Intervention Programs around the country,
> including the Duluth Project and EMERGE and will focus on Community
> Commitment to End Domestic Violence and Working with Men Who Batter.
> Those who are interested in participating in that workshop should also send
> inquiries to the conference coordinator, same address as above.
>
> ---------------
>
>                                 PROFEMINIST MEN'S STUDIES
>
>
>                                 CALL FOR PAPERS
>
> Please consider this also a call for proposals and for papers for the
> Profeminist Men's Studies One-Day Institute.  We are committed to seeking a
> diversity of tiopics and presenters.  Papers from any discipline welcome,
> including research on violence, representations of masculinity in the
> media, teaching about men and masculinity, historical development of
> masculinity, therapeutic interventions and strategies, spirituality,
> literature wll be considered.  One-page abstracts should be sent by 1 May
> to:
>
>         Men's Studies Conference
>         16 De Koven Ct.
>         Brooklyn, NY 11230
>
> or to RBran999@aol.com
>




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Michael Kimmel
Professor
Department of Sociology
SUNY at Stony Brook
Stony Brook, NY 11794

phone:  (516) 632-7708
fax:    (516) 632-8203

email:  mkimmel@datalab2.sbs.sunysb.edu
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Date:         Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:21:28 -0500
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From:         "Donna M. Hughes" <dhughes@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Misogyny
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Janice Raymond in her book A PASSION FOR FRIENDS: TOWARD A PHILOSOPHY OF
FEMALE AFFECTION coined the term gyn/affection.

Donna Hughes
Carlson Endowed Chair
University of Rhode Island
dhughes@uriacc.uri.edu



At 04:49 PM 25-02-98 EST, you wrote:
>I am searching for a word or an expression that describes the opposite of
>misogyny.
>
>Please respond privately.
>
>Judith Robinson Chanin
>JRChanin@aol.com
>
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From:         Peggy Sparkman <lakota@WKU.CAMPUS.MCI.NET>
Subject:      Re: Help with vita
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Hi! All,

I am a recent graduate of a master's program in Humanities and am teaching
an Intro to WS class.  I need to update my vita to reflect this teaching
experience but I'm feeling pretty unsure about how to add this information.
 Do any of you have suggestions?  Any help with vita writing in general
would be greatly appreciated.  Also, if you have your vita on line would
you mind sending me your address if you don't mind sharing.

Thanks to all

Peggy Sparkman
Western Kentucky University

lakota@wku.campus.mci.net
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From:         "William W. Pendleton" <socwwp@EMORY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Help with vita
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With respect to the request, many departments have web pages for each
faculty member with a curriculum vitae available.  The sites for Emory are
found at http://www.emory.edu/COLLEGE/departments.html. Not every faculty
has a vita posted, but many do.  Many other schools do the same so that
way you can get a look at several rather quickly.


On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Peggy Sparkman wrote:

> Hi! All,
>
> I am a recent graduate of a master's program in Humanities and am teaching
> an Intro to WS class.  I need to update my vita to reflect this teaching
> experience but I'm feeling pretty unsure about how to add this information.
>  Do any of you have suggestions?  Any help with vita writing in general
> would be greatly appreciated.  Also, if you have your vita on line would
> you mind sending me your address if you don't mind sharing.
>
> Thanks to all
>
> Peggy Sparkman
> Western Kentucky University
>
> lakota@wku.campus.mci.net
>

Wm W. Pendleton
Department of Sociology
Emory University
Atlanta, Ga. 30322
socwwp@emory.edu
404 727-7524
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From:         molinda s lauxmiller <molinda@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Women's Studies Studies

I'm helping a colleague who lost track of  an acquintance from the mid
"60's who taught in Oregon and San Francisco.  If anyone has knowledge of
the whereabouts of Barabara Hitchcock (native New Orleans resident)
please have her e-mail me for contact with Beth.  Sorry to post this but
it's of great importance to Beth.  Thanks
molinda@juno.com

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Date:         Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:14:38 -0600
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From:         Linda Bergmann <bergmann@UMR.EDU>
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               Call for Papers

                  forum on

          TRAVEL WRITING/WRITING TRAVEL:
       THE POLITICS AND POETICS OF LOCATION

                    at the
     Midwest Modern Language Association Meeting
               November 5-7 1998
             Regal Riverfront Hotel
              St. Louis, Missouri


This forum will consider papers on aspects of travel writing related to the
development of genres of travel writing and to the work that travel writing
does.  Possible topics include writing the rise of tourism; the economies
of travel and travel writing; travel writing and national identity; travel
writing and concepts of nature and society; gender in travel writing.



Send abstracts or papers by April 1, 1998 to:

Linda S. Bergmann
Department of English
University of Missouri-Rolla
Rolla, MO 65409

(573) 341-4685
bergmann@umr.edu

Linda S. Bergmann
Associate Professor of English and Director of Writing Across the Curriculum
University of Missouri-Rolla
Rolla, MO  65409

(573) 341-4685

bergmann@umr.edu
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I'm somewhat surprised by this question, but perhaps that's only because of my
age.  WOMEN'S STUDIES QUARTERLY  has been publishing either every year or
every other year a full list of women's studies programs in the U.S. and their
degree offerings--since 1972!   Go to your library!  The most recent issue was
published as the 25th anniversary issue--spring/summer 1997.  It also contains
a look back at the history of more than 25 years of women's studies.  Or if
you want the issue, fax 212-650-8893.  Cheers, Florence Howe
(florench@aol.com)
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Several students have recently asked me about Ph.D. programs in women's
> studies.  I searched the files on INFORM and could only find women's
> studies programs listed by state.  where might I find a list of
> universities that offer graduate degrees in women's studies?


The National Women's Studies Assoc used to keep a list organized by state
and by university. They are located on the College Park campus of the U of
Maryland, ph: 301-405-5573, and probably also on the WWW.

Jill Zahniser
zahniser@minn.net
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> Date:     Wed, 18 Feb 1998 13:31:37 -0700
> From:     Brenda Cooper <bcooper@CC.USU.EDU>
> Subject:  quotes from women
>
> One of my students is updating our Women's Studies web site, and we would
> like to include a link to quotes from famous women.
>

My own publishing company, Caillech Press, has issued three volumes of a
smaller book called And Then She Said. The most recent volume(1995) is And
Then She Said: Quotations from Women Around the World. The And Then She
Said series, unlike other collections, is strongly multicultural and
contains additional reference materials.

All the titles mentioned above are available(at least by order) from any
independent bookstore.

The Caillech Press web site is under construction at
http://www1.minn.net/~zahniser

Be aware that copying sections of quotations collections is considered
copyright infringement. Picking and choosing individual quotations is OK.

Jill Zahniser
zahniser@minn.net
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From:         Sue Frantz <FRANTZ@NMSUA.NMSU.EDU>
Organization: Alamogordo Branch Community College
Subject:      Las Cruces, NM conference

I haven't heard much about it, but I did receive a copy of this
announcement a couple weeks ago.

There is a contact e-mail address and phone number listed at the
bottom of this announcement.

Sue


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Subject:       New Mexico Women's Studies Conference

        NEW MEXICO WOMEN'S STUDIES CONFERENCE
         WOMEN MATTER:  LIVES, CONDITIONS, CULTURES


March 19 -21
NMSU Campus
Las Cruces, NM

Workshops
Panels
Paper Sessions
Poetry Readings
Barbies for the 21st Century (art exhibition)
Film:  The Desert Is No Lady
Play:  The Second Coming of Joan of Arc

The conference will take many approaches to understanding women's
lives, women's issues, and how women can bring about social and
cultural changes. Keynote Speakers include Ana Castillo, Jennifer
Wicke, and Wendy Shannon. Many sessions on Saturday will focus on
issues related to education. Workshops will include diverse topics
such as:  sexual harassment; women, art and culture, cross-cultural
women's friendships; facing violence against woen;  women's health
issues;  cultural diversity in education AND MORE!

For more information about the conference, call the New Mexico State
University Women's Studies Program at 505-646-3448, or e-mail Shirley
Franich at sfranich@nmsu.edu

**********************************************


Sue Frantz          frantz@nmsua.nmsu.edu     ICQ/UIN 6449407
Instructor of Psychology               Office: (505) 439-3752
New Mexico State Univ - Alamogordo     Fax: (505) 439-3657
Alamogordo, NM  88310                  http://web.nmsu.edu/~sfrantz
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From:         Lauraine Leblanc <spikeyrat@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Multicultural Definitions of Beauty

Hey there!

I just picked up this fabulous edited volume:  _Beauty Queens: On the
Global Stage_ edited by Colleen Ballerino Cogen, Richard Wilk, and
Beverly Stoeltje. (1996, Routledge). Haven't had time to thoroughly
peruse it yet, but it does seem to fit the bill. Good luck!

Lauraine Leblanc, Ph.D.
Visiting Assistant Professor of Sociology
Emory University

The Doctor is Out There

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"critical inQueeries"
Australia's only interdisciplinary journal of queer theory invites
submissions for its forthcoming issues for 1998.

Areas covered:
* queer feminisms
* gay/lesbian/bisex/transgender/queer
* cultural studies
* postcolonialism
* poststructuralism
* film and television

All manuscripts will be refereed by two or more members of the editorial
board or qualified external reviewers. Three copies of the manuscript
should be submitted to:

critical inQueeries
PO Box 4472
The University of Melbourne
Parkville
AUSTRALIA 3052

For more information about the journal please consult our website:
http://www.arts.unimelb.edu.au/projects/inQueeries/queeries.htm

Dr Steven Angelides
Department of History
The University of Melbourne
Parkville 3052
AUSTRALIA
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Jacquiline, How does one get a list of products in the 'girlcott' list?
        beatrice    bkachuck@cuny.campus.mci.net


At 07:11 AM 2/24/98 -0600, you wrote:
>In  __Feminist Perspectives on Peace Research and Peace Education__,
>(1989) Birgit Brock-Utne refers to a practice called "Girlcott" which was
>initiated by women in a number of countries, including Canada, to support
>companies and products which support policies and practices friendly to
>women, children, and the fragile eco-system.  It is a much more positive,
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From:         beatricekachuck <bkachuck@CUNY.CAMPUS.MCI.NET>
Subject:      Re: Journal Rankings--Women's Studies
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Probably the most dramatic illustration of in recent history of the error
in relying on ranking of journals is the case of Cyril Burt in the British
Journal of Psychology (may not be the exact name), THE prestigious psych
journal in that country. His twin studies, purported to demonstrate that
intelligence is inherited, were shown to be faked. Further analysis showed
that the journal editors had neglected signals of questionable data in the
articles it published, overly willing to accept the work of a 'great man'
and, apparently fond of Burt's conclusion.
    Time for a campaign against journal rankings? Initiative to be discussed
at NWSA this June?
        beatrice    bkachuck@cuny.campus.mci.net


At 08:44 PM 2/24/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I have always found the ranking of journals a rather silly game.  The best
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From:         Janice Amsler <jhamsler@OURAY.CUDENVER.EDU>
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On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Judith Robinson Chanin wrote:

> I am searching for a word or an expression that describes the opposite of
> misogyny.
>
> Please respond privately.
>
> Judith Robinson Chanin
> JRChanin@aol.com
>

How about: 'misophallos', 'misophallic', and so on.  Or perhaps:
'phallodium', 'anthrodium', or 'androdium'.  The problem with the andro-
construction is of course that andro- is the universal prefix and when
joined with [male]volent implication thus implies hatred of humans in
general; at least within the framework of intelligibility imposed by
traditional logos.  I think that there has never been an exact opposite
for obvious misogynistic reasons.  If there has been one it would not have
found a permanent home within the phallocentric epistemology anyway.  A
problem is that even today we remain Greeks in our forms of think/speak.

Janice Amsler
jhamsler@ouray.cudenver.edu
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There is an excellent book on race, culture and bodies called UNBEARABLE
WEIGHT:FEMINISM, WESTERN CULTURE AND THE BODY by Susan Bordo.

Kerstin Roger, PhD Candidate
OISE/UT
#3- 59 Clinton Street
Toronto, Ont.
(416) 516-9885
kroger@oise.utoronto.ca
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From:         "William W. Pendleton" <socwwp@EMORY.EDU>
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I replied to the original poster with the suggestion of philogyny as the
opposite word.   That word existed at least as early as 1872 (OED).  It
did  not occur to me that an opposite for disliking women would be
disliking men.   That seems to be the tact for Amsler. There is room for
an interesting essay in that.

On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Janice Amsler wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Judith Robinson Chanin wrote:
>
> > I am searching for a word or an expression that describes the opposite of
> > misogyny.
> >
> > Please respond privately.
> >
> > Judith Robinson Chanin
> > JRChanin@aol.com
> >
>
> How about: 'misophallos', 'misophallic', and so on.  Or perhaps:
> 'phallodium', 'anthrodium', or 'androdium'.  The problem with the andro-
> construction is of course that andro- is the universal prefix and when
> joined with [male]volent implication thus implies hatred of humans in
> general; at least within the framework of intelligibility imposed by
> traditional logos.  I think that there has never been an exact opposite
> for obvious misogynistic reasons.  If there has been one it would not have
> found a permanent home within the phallocentric epistemology anyway.  A
> problem is that even today we remain Greeks in our forms of think/speak.
>
> Janice Amsler
> jhamsler@ouray.cudenver.edu
>

Wm W. Pendleton
Department of Sociology
Emory University
Atlanta, Ga. 30322
socwwp@emory.edu
404 727-7524
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Someone was looking for Martha Stewart recently -- looks like she'll be
at this conference!

Kerstin Roger, PhD Candidate
OISE/UT
#3- 59 Clinton Street
Toronto, Ont.
(416) 516-9885
kroger@oise.utoronto.ca

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Subject: SOC: MLA special session CFP: Martha Stewart (fwd)



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Subject: MLA special session CFP: Martha Stewart



Call for papers
1998 MLA Conference, San Francisco
Proposed Special Session


"Martha Stewart's Living"

Martha Stewart is one of North America's pre-eminent arbiters of
middle-class style and taste. Her influence extends across visual and
print media, and has spawned numerous parodies. In her multiple and
synthesized roles as author and trademark, financial icon and cultural
magnate, uber-Wasp and Chief Executive Housewife, archetype of white
femininity and immigrant dream, it is clear that within the discourses of
Stewart's industry are contradictions that bear investigation. Our panel
seeks to consider the following questions:
How does Stewart's work serve to construct notions of whiteness and middle
class heterosexual identity?
How is Stewart produced by the culture of late capitalism?
What would Judith Butler make of Stewart's aggressively heterosexual
performance?
Do camp parodies of Stewart represent queer subversions of dominant
discourses?
What can we make of the connection between Stewart's actual life and the
virtual life that is apparently the subject of _Martha Stewart Living_?
What is the function of nostalgia in Martha Stewart? Is it an "imperialist
nostalgia" in Renato Rosaldo's sense of the term?
What is the significance of Stewart's aesthetic of cleanliness and
perfection? Bearing in mind McLintock's work in _Imperial Leather_, what
is the connection between nineteenth century discourses of dirt and
purity and Stewart's postmodern urban aesthetic?


We are soliciting proposals for papers that read Martha Stewart as a
cultural phenomenon. Papers should not run more than 10 to 15 minutes and
proposals should be 1 to 2 pages. If you are sending hard copies of the
abstract, please provide 3 copies. Please send proposals, as well as a
brief CV, to

Zoe Newman
Sociology and Equity Studies
OISE/University of Toronto
252 Bloor St. W.
Toronto, Ontario
M5S 1V6 CANADA
znewman@oise.utoronto.ca

or to

Kyla Wazana
85 Bleecker St.
Unit 925
Toronto, Ontario
M4X 1X1 CANADA
ktompkin@chass.utoronto.ca

Proposals must be received by March 22. Please indicate whether you are a
member of the MLA.
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From:         "Women's Presses Library Project, Mev Miller" <wplp@WINTERNET.COM>
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>From the Women's Presses library Project:

Have a look at "The Defiant Muse: French Feminist Poems from the Middle
Ages to the Present" published by Feminist Press CUNY.

Mev

>Alright - I realise this is a somewhat odd request...  but does anyone
>know of any contemporary french lesbian (or feminist) poets, who deal with
>with either one or both of those topics explicitly in their work?  (I'm
>taking an undergraduate level french lit analysis class - and if we read
>one more misogynist piece about some dead man's wife, I'm going to
>scream.)
>Info is much appreciated - feel free to respond privately.
>Stacey
>
>**********************************************************************
>Stacey Meadow                                          Barnard College
>sm445@columbia.edu                           Women'sStudies/Psychology
>
>VIEW MY BRAND NEW WEBSITE AT:  http://www.columbia.edu/~sm445
>
>I'm the sanest person in my world.
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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:37:54 +0000
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From:         "Donna L. Rowe" <dr70@UMAIL.UMD.EDU>
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              Park
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Last week in my Intro to Women's Studies class (all returning
students), we
began a lively discussion about transsexuals and transgendered
peoples.  As
extra credit, I asked my students to investigate the definitions of
these
terms and think about the notions of gender and sex as they relate to
the
words.

Subsequently, we continued this discussion on email all this week.  I
have
struck a nerve!  We will meet on Thursday p.m. as usual. Does anyone
have a
concise "herstory" of the debate/position of the Michigan Women's
Music
Festival with regard to admitting either transsexuals or transgendered
folks?

Can any one suggest any appropriate essays or articles on the topics?
I
have recommended _Stone Butch Blues_ and would like to suggest other
less
lengthy readings.  I related a story about meeting Leslie F. and
wrestling
my own issues around gender stereotypes...this got them thinking about
their
own communities and those within it. Several revealed they knew men
who were
living lives as women, most w/o sex changes and discussed their
feelings/thoughts on what it means to live as a woman today.  Very
interesting!

Most students seem to be having trouble coming up with a definition of
transgendered, particularly because it isn't in their edition of
Webster's
Dictionary!  Am I surprised?! ;-)

Anyone who teaches this subject or has additionaly readings to
suggest,
please email me privately.  Thanks very much.



\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

Donna L. Rowe
American Studies/Women's Studies Departments
University of Maryland College Park
Email:dr70@umail.umd.edu

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From:         Jacqueline Haessly <jacpeace@ACS.STRITCH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nike and Motherhood
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Here is the only citation I have for the "girlcott" reference.
Brock-Utne, Birgit, "The Feminist Experience and Social Change in Europe
and Africa", in Boulding, Elise, Ed. New Agendas for Peace Research:
Conflict and Security Reexamined, Boulder: Lynne Rienner Publishers, 1992.
three principles:             a) nonviolence -- girlcott (positive actions
for support of what is needed, rather than boycotts against what is
wrong); it is "ethically conscious, caring market behavior" (p. 39);
b) life as ultimate value -- and c) transnationalism -- beyond any one
country toward respect for all; --

In this essay, Brock-Utne references women's groups in Canada and
elsewhere regarding their efforts to support products which promote
ethical business practices and care for the eco-system.

I apologize to readers of this list for the incorrect listing of the
citation, as given below. After a careful checking of the __Feminist
Perspectives book, without success, I went back to my notes and found the
above citation, which is correct.

Peace,  Jacqueline Haessly    jacpeace@acs.stritch.edu    Image Peace!

On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, beatricekachuck wrote:

> Jacquiline, How does one get a list of products in the 'girlcott' list?
>         beatrice    bkachuck@cuny.campus.mci.net
>
>
> At 07:11 AM 2/24/98 -0600, you wrote:
> >In  __Feminist Perspectives on Peace Research and Peace Education__,
> >(1989) Birgit Brock-Utne refers to a practice called "Girlcott" which was
> >initiated by women in a number of countries, including Canada, to support
> >companies and products which support policies and practices friendly to
> >women, children, and the fragile eco-system.  It is a much more positive,
>
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From:         Edrie J Sobstyl <esobstyl@UTDALLAS.EDU>
Subject:      websites for feminist girls & young women
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    Hello list members,

    I've searched the WMST-L archives and index and have found some
resources, but I'd like to ask for your help.  I'm searching for
websites (and, to a lesser extent, other lists) devoted to feminism for
girls and young women, ages about 12+. Feminist parenting of
girls/young women in this age group would be appropriate as well. (I've
already got a fairly thorough bibliography of hard text.)  I'll be
happy to compile whatever responses I get and forward them, either to
individuals or to the list.

    Thanks in advance for any assistance you can offer.
    cheers,
    edrie

*****************************
Edrie Sobstyl
School of Arts and Humanities
University of Texas at Dallas
P.O. Box 830688 Richardson Tx 75083-0688
(972) 883-2365
(972) 883-2989 (fax)
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From:         Kathy Miriam <kmiriam@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Transsexual/Transgendered
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Janice Raymond's book The Transsexual Empire (recently re-printed) is
animportant feminist *critique* of the "making of the she-male" as she
subtitles the book.  In other words it would provide your students with a
powerful feminist position in the debate that few people are even aware
of today.  She writes about Feinberg in the introduction to the recent
publication.

good luck,
Kathy Miriam
kmiriam@cats.ucsc.edu
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Date:         Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:24:28 -0800
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From:         Marilyn MacDonald <marilynm@SFU.CA>
Subject:      women, science and nationalism
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I'd also be interested in the references which people might have about the
connections amongst women, science and nationalism (re request by
tromblnm@email.uc.edu).
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From:         Jaime Grant <jgrant@TUI.EDU>
Organization: The Union Institute
Subject:      Re: Transsexual/Transgendered

For a pro-trans feminist perspective see Minnie Bruce Pratt's S/he.   Kate
Bornstein's work, recently her "Gender Workbook," and her plays including
"Hidden: A Gender" are fabulous.  (Kate is a bi, feminist ftm).  I like
Loren Cameron's Body Alchemy, which is a photoessay on mtf's.  Recently, I
saw a film on mtf's entitled "You don't know dick" that included some
feminist perspectives on the part of the mtf's interviewed (I don't know
how to track it down - through the queer filmfests, I guess).  For
theoretical work that offers feminist perspectives on gender as
performance, see Judy Butler and Eve Kosofsky Sedgewick.  Radical sex
activist Pat Califia just came out with a book on Transfolks, but I haven't
read it and don't know whether or not to recommend it.

Jaime
Jgrant@tui.edu

-----Original Message-----
From:    Kathy Miriam [SMTP:kmiriam@CATS.UCSC.EDU]
Sent:    Thursday, February 26, 1998 11:29 AM
To:    WMST-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU
Subject:    Re: Transsexual/Transgendered

Janice Raymond's book The Transsexual Empire (recently re-printed) is
animportant feminist *critique* of the "making of the she-male" as she
subtitles the book.  In other words it would provide your students with a
powerful feminist position in the debate that few people are even aware
of today.  She writes about Feinberg in the introduction to the recent
publication.

good luck,
Kathy Miriam
kmiriam@cats.ucsc.edu
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From:         Miriam K Harris <mharris@UTDALLAS.EDU>
Subject:      Southern Lit: Gender Perspectives
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I will be teaching a Southern American Literature course this summer and
plan to focus on gender stereotypes, perspectives and images.  I'm going
to use Ellen Glasgow's
Virginia or Barren Ground, Faulkner's Sound and Fury & Sanctuary, for
sure and am looking at several other choices -- especially Alice Walker,
either her collection of essays In search of Our Mothers' Gardens or her
novel The Color Purple.

My question is as follows:  I would like to find a short story collection
of Southern Lit with both male and female writers since I want to look at
imagees of both men and women as portrayed by one another and look at
reflections of pedestal values and themes of southern honor etc.

Any suggestions of such collections?  After all it's a summer course and
there are only so many novels a class can read.  And I still want some
variety.

I will post a list of results so you can send your suggestions privately.
Thanks  in advance.

Miriam K. Harris, Ph.D.
University of Texas at Dallas
mharris@utdallas.edu
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Stanford University, Department of Music
Ron Alexander Memorial Musicology Lecture Series

2 March 1998 (Monday):
 Liane Curtis
 (Women's Studies Program, Brandeis University),
"Rebecca Clarke and Virginia Woolf: 'Moments of Being'"

Room 103, Braun Music Center at 4:15 pm
-- open to the public and free of charge

For further information contact Tom Grey, 219 Braun Music Center, (408)
723-3479,
tsgrey@leland.stanford.edu

Rebecca Clarke and Virginia Woolf: "Moments of Being"
        Composer Rebecca Clarke's life is aptly compared with that of
Woolf,
both in the consideration of abstract societal forces and in tangible
circumstances: for instance, Woolf (b.  1883) and Clarke (b.  1886) grew
up in the environs of  London, and experienced the trauma of abuse
within patriarchally structured homes.   Their recent reception can also
be paralleled: Woolf was considered only a minor figure, not worthy of
canonical status, into the 1970s.  While some of Clarke's important
works remains accessible only through her estate, the growing
recognition of her music is apparent through numerous recordings.
        Woolf was heroic in her creative life, but her uneasiness with
her
cultural unorthodoxy played itself out in her suicide.  Clarke, in
contrast, ultimately closeted her creative self, and lived to the age of
93.  This paper draws on Clarke's unpublished writings, including her
diaries, letters, and memoir of her youth.  Her life, with its periods
of both productivity and silence, is the story of a remarkable composer.

Liane Curtis
lianec@earthlink.net
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Edrie,

A feminist parenting site is Expect the Best from a Girl:

http://www.academic.org/

Lisa

Lisa Gerrard
gerrard@humnet.ucla.edu
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    thanks Lisa!!

    edrie

On Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:03:17 -0800 Lisa Gerrard
<gerrard@HUMNET.UCLA.EDU> wrote:

> Edrie,
>
> A feminist parenting site is Expect the Best from a Girl:
>
> http://www.academic.org/
>
> Lisa
>
> Lisa Gerrard
> gerrard@humnet.ucla.edu

Edrie Sobstyl
School of Arts and Humanities
University of Texas at Dallas
P.O. Box 830688 Richardson Tx 75083-0688
(972) 883-2365
(972) 883-2989 (fax)
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From:         Marjorie Pryse <mpryse@CNSVAX.ALBANY.EDU>
Organization: Ualbany English Dept.
Subject:      Faculty Roles & Rewards project

As part of a grant-funded project with the NWSA Governing Council, I
am looking for Program Administrators at tenure-granting institutions
who might be interested in participating in a project on Faculty
Roles and Rewards.  This would involve working with a group of
Women's Studies scholars and P.A.s to describe what constitutes
scholarship, teaching, and service in Women's Studies so that
colleagues from other departments/programs in the academy can
evaluate candidates for tenure and promotion in the terms that make
sense to faculty in Women's Studies rather than in the often
erroneous terms colleagues from other departments apply to the work
we do.  The effort will
involve some research to locate publications on the topic, if any,
and will also involve campus histories concerning tenure & promotion
cases.  We will meet for the first time at the NWSA Conference at
Oswego this June--and will have an open meeting at that time so that
anyone who wants to join the discussion will be able to--and we may
also need to meet again next January in Albuquerque in conjunction
with the winter meeting of the Governing Council.  The grant would
facilitate some of this travel.  Please respond privately if you are
interested; I will then contact those who respond and try to put
together a panel that will be able to work together.  Marjorie Pryse,
University at Albany, SUNY; mpryse@cnsvax.albany.edu
tel: 518-442-4070
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From:         Katsue Akiba Reynolds <katsue@JIU.AC.JP>
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in regard to the question if the gender distinction in chinese
characters is relatively new, i got the following information, which i
have already posted. however, i continued to inquire and received the
following, which gives us a somewhat different picture about the
development of the gendered characters from professor Y-C Li, a senior
professor at the university of hawaii. being a historical linguist (and
a feminist), i intuitively think that this second description is closer
to what actually happened.

The answer to my inquiry from Dr. Li:

I'm not entirely clear about the point of debate.
The female radical has existed as a character or a
radical for a long time, but its use as a gender
distinction in the third person pronoun arose out
of the necessity to distinguish "she' from "he" in
translation probably during the late Qing Dynasty.

The women's characters were adapted and simplified
from the regular characters (with some from earlier
form of Chinese characters). They were changed and
adapted in such a way as to make them difficult (for
male presumably) to decipher unless you learned from
your mother or sister.

Gender differences in Chinese language, though not as
prominent as in Japnese, have been observed for a long
time, but only recently been studied more systematically.
Women's writings in poetry and other genres have also
been around for a long time.


Katsue Akiba Reynolds wrote:
>
> i also wanted to know "exactly when" and i asked John DeFrancis, a
> chinese language specialist who has been working on a chinese-english
> dictionary, a professor emeritus of the university of hawaii, who kindly
> faxed me three pages of Yuen Ren Chao's A GRAMMAR OF SPOKEN CHINESE
> (University of California Press, 1968, pp641-3). YRC writes:
>
> The borrowing of distinctions of gender in personal pronouns from
> Western languages into Chinese is one of those conscious  attempts to
> change linguistic usage on which much effort has been spent and only
> slight changes of a marginal nature have resulted. It was about the time
> of the 1917 Literary Revolution that writers began to differenciate the
> third-person pronoun 'he' [character with the 'person' radical] , 'she'
> [with the 'woman' radical, and 'it' . Little attention was paid to the
> question of how these were to be pronounced, and most readers read all
> three as 'ta' when reading aloud. During the succeeding years i myself
> tried to give some linguistic status to these differentiated graphs by
> proposing the forms .......
>
> so, Naomi Stunden is right about the innovation. i guess the distinction
> perhaps looked traditional to my chinese colleague since she is a
> relatively young person (in her late 30s?).  being a feminist linguist,
> who have been interested in the development of the distinction between
> women's language and men's language in japanese, i am very much
> interested in chinese women and their language. the fact that there are
> several hundreds characters with the woman radical, almost all of which
> have negative meanings, the food-binding, and the exclusion of women
> from the use of characters seem to me very strong indications of sexism
> in the chinese society in the past to say the least. also, distinction
> created by the writers during the cultural revolution is not a simple
> borowing from the west. the chinese writers adopted the third person
> pronoun with the radical indicating 'person' as the masculine form,
> shich is an exact parallet to the 'male-as-norm' semantic rule that is
> typically seen in the generic use of 'man' and 'he/his/him' in English.
> it is interesting that Y.R. Chao, the author of the chinese grammar
> writes,"IDuring the subsequent years I myself tried to give some
> linguistic status to these differentiated graphs by proposing...."  He
> tried to introduce the gender distinction in spoken chinese.
> this gives rise to several interesting questions concerning how sexism
> is coded in languages.
>
> Naomi Standen wrote:
> >
> > [Note: the quotes are edited to the extent that I took them out of all
 caps.]
> >
> > >According to a Chinese teacher, one of my colleagues, the gender
> > >distinction in the third person pronouns in the writing is not a recent
> > >invention, but it has existed for a long time in the history of the
> > >chinese language.
> >
> > I'd love to know exactly when the 'female' character came into being. My
> > understanding (which may be wrong) was that it was one result of the
> > linguistic changes happening from the late Qing (C19) onwards, which, being
> > a medieval historian, I count as relatively recent! Can your teacher give
> > you a date/period to share with us?
> >
> > >Incidentally, several researchers have recently
> > >presented the women's characters--Chinese characters invented by women
> > >for the use of women when women were not allowed to write the regular
> > >(for-male use) Chinese characters--a somewhat different but basically
> > >similar situation was observed in Japan, too, in the beginning of the
> > >development of the Japanese writing: women did not have access to the
> > >standard writing system.
> >
> > The interesting thing here is that in China the women's language was
> > unheard-of until recently (there's a good article in _Engendering China_,
> > four eds including Hershatter - don't have the book to hand), whereas in
> > Japan women's writing is and has been widely celebrated as, for instance,
> > providing the first novel anywhere in the world (_The Tale of Genji_).
> > Drawing from the same Confucian base, and with similar patterns of
> > production (at least in the post-C11 Chinese ideal), the cultures have done
> > entirely different things with women's writing.
> >
> > Now there's a research project!
> >
> > --
> > Naomi Standen
> > Department of History, Politics and Society
> > University of Wisconsin-Superior
> > nstanden@staff.uwsuper.edu
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 27/2/98            8:07 AM

Stacey Meadow asked: Alright - I realise this is a somewhat odd =
request...  but does anyone know of any contemporary french lesbian (or =
feminist) poets, who deal with with either one or both of those topics =
explicitly in their work?
----------
I am replying to the list as others may be interested.
First, why is is seeking info on French lesbian poets an odd request?  I =
see nothing odd about it.
Jocelyne Fran=E7ois is a (relativley) contemporary French lesbian poet.  =
One of her anthologies is called "Signes d'air" I think.  She has also =
written some novels, one of which won the Prix F=E9mina in the 1980s =
(1981 I think, but I forget which novel).  There are no doubt others:  =
the gay & lesbian literary review "Masques" that came out in the 1980s =
would possibly be a good place to look.  You could also try the lesbian =
review "Vlasta", same vintage.  I don't think any such reviews still =
exist, unfortunately.
Bronwyn Winter
Dept of French Studies
University of Sydney
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Dear Folks:  We at Feminist Press (alas) still don't have our website up, but
when we do, there will be a place on it for feminist girls and young women,
since we are starting to publish especially for them.  The first three books
in a series meant for 12 year olds will be biographies of four Nobel Peace
Prize winners: Aung San Su Kyi; Rigoberta Menchu; and Mairead Corrigan and
Betty Williams.  We are also looking for proposals for a different group of
three for 1999 and again for 2000.  And we are looking for other kinds of
books as well.
     I'd love to hear from people who are thinking about such things, and also
about whether there are websites especially devoted to young girls.  Cheers,
Florence Howe  (florench@aol.com)
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For further references on transsexualism/transgender, also see the section
on this in the "Sexualities" section of my bibliography, at:
http://online.anu.edu.au/~e900392/mensbiblio/MensBiblioMenu.html

Cheers,

michael flood.

E-mail: Michael Flood <michael.flood@anu.edu.au>
Phone: [02] 6279 8468 (w). PO Box 26, Ainslie ACT, 2602, AUSTRALIA.

-- XY magazine: http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~gorkin/XY/xy.htm
-- The men's bibliography:
http://online.anu.edu.au/~e900392/mensbiblio/MensBiblioMenu.html
-- Pro-feminist men's FAQ: http://online.anu.edu.au/~e900392/pffaq.html
-- Women's Studies Web Page: http://www.anu.edu.au/womens_studies/
-- Homophobia and masculinities among young men (Lessons in becoming a
straight man): http://online.anu.edu.au/~e900392/homophobia.html
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From:         "Women's Presses Library Project, Mev Miller" <wplp@WINTERNET.COM>
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>I'd also be interested in the references which people might have about the
>connections amongst women, science and nationalism (re request by
>tromblnm@email.uc.edu).

>From the Women's Presses Library Project:

Daughters of the Pacific
Zohl de Ishtar
Spinifex Press
1995    1-875559-32-9    P    $19.95    256pp.
Radical testimonies from indigenous Pacific women on issues of nuclear
experimentation, the impact of tourism, oceanic pollution, and more.

Light in the Crevice Never Seen
Haunani-Kay Trask
CALYX Books
1994    0-934971-38-2    C    $21.95    128pp.
Poetry by an indigenous Hawaiian reflecting on a woman's love for her land
and the rage that comes from its destruction.

These titles should be available at your local feminist or independent
bookstore. Please let me know if you need assistance in locating them.
Mev

WOMEN'S PRESSES LIBRARY PROJECT
"...keeping women's words in circulation"
Mev Miller
Project Coodinator
1483 Laurel Ave.
St. Paul, MN 55104-6737
612-646-0097
612-646-1153 (fax)
wplp@winternet.com
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From:         Phyllis Holman Weisbard <PWEIS@MACC.WISC.EDU>
Subject:      websites for/by/about girls

I have some links to such sites from our website.
The direct URL to this part of our site is

http://www.library.wisc.edu/libraries/WomensStudies/girldev.htm

Included are Girls, Inc. organization, Girls Interwire magazine from
Girl Games software co., Just for Girls, also a computer
software company, Girl Power (excerpts from a book by teens, ed.
by Hilary Carlip), Science is for Girls Program, WEEA, and various
bibliographies and articles. I'd like to add links to this
section, so send more -- either to the list or to me personally.

Phyllis


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Phyllis Holman Weisbard
University of Wisconsin System Women's Studies Librarian
Room 430 Memorial Library, 728 State Street, Madison, WI 53706
    http://www.library.wisc.edu/libraries/WomensStudies/
    pweis@doit.wisc.edu
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Looking for references to articles on, or your own syllabi, anecdotes,
experiences in incorporating lesbian and gay material of any kind into
mainstream curricula and gen ed courses, especially first year composition
classes.

So far, I've found 2 ERIC articles by Sara-Hope Parmeter, and would
appreciate any information on where she is, how to contact her.

Victoria Shannon
DePaul University/Columbia University, Chicago
VOShann@aol.com
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From:         Betty Glass <glass@ADMIN.UNR.EDU>
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The new 9th edition of _Magazines for Libraries_, published by Bowker,
includes evaluations of Internet/WWW journals in a variety of subject
areas.  There are two sections dealing with women's studies & feminist
resources.
  A lot of academic libraries have this resource.  Ask at the Ref. Desk.

Betty

On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Edrie J Sobstyl wrote:

>     I've searched the WMST-L archives and index and have found some
> resources, but I'd like to ask for your help.  I'm searching for
> websites (and, to a lesser extent, other lists) devoted to feminism for
> girls and young women, ages about 12+. Feminist parenting of
> girls/young women in this age group would be appropriate as well. (I've
> already got a fairly thorough bibliography of hard text.)  I'll be
> happy to compile whatever responses I get and forward them, either to
> individuals or to the list.
>
>     Thanks in advance for any assistance you can offer.
>     cheers,       edrie
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Hi Lauraine,

Been meaning to email you and say hi and ask how things are going
with you. Is your new apartment (not so new now, I imagine) working
out? How's the Visiting Prof gig?

I'm collecting data by the buttload and am officially sick and tired
of doing this research. Blea. Am also personally supporting the
tape cassette industry.

Best,

MIchelle

> Hey there!
>
> I just picked up this fabulous edited volume:  _Beauty Queens: On the
> Global Stage_ edited by Colleen Ballerino Cogen, Richard Wilk, and
> Beverly Stoeltje. (1996, Routledge). Haven't had time to thoroughly
> peruse it yet, but it does seem to fit the bill. Good luck!
>
> Lauraine Leblanc, Ph.D.
> Visiting Assistant Professor of Sociology
> Emory University
>
> The Doctor is Out There
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com
> Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
>
>
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Hi WMST-ers,

OOOPS!!

Meant to send something to an individual and sent to the list.
A million apologies!!!

Michelle
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I am working on a project with an instructional design masters student and
we are trying to identify anyone doing research on gender in instructional
design.  Please reply privately and I can post to the list if others are
interested.  df

Dolores Fidishun, Ed. D.
Head Librarian
Penn State Great Valley Graduate Center
30 E. Swedesford Road
Malvern, PA 19355
email: dxf19@psu.edu
phone:  610-648-3227
fax:  610-725-5223
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Edrie--

I'd like to see your compilation posted to the list.

Beth Seetch
seetchm@lafayette.edu

> *****************************
> Edrie Sobstyl
> School of Arts and Humanities
> University of Texas at Dallas
> P.O. Box 830688 Richardson Tx 75083-0688
> (972) 883-2365
> (972) 883-2989 (fax)
>
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              Park
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PART ONE

Dear WMST-L members:

   The following clips will summarize the responses I received on my
query about teaching Intro. students about Transsexuality and
Transgender.  We have decided to continue reading and searching for a
clearer understanding of these issues throughout the semester.  Last
night I left the class with a larger question that has grown out of
these discussions:  "What does it mean to live life as a woman today?"

I'm sure that we will come back time and again to the socially
constructed categories of gender and sex, but I wanted everyone who
responded to know that the class was very impressed with your breadth
of knowledge and willingness to share resources on such short notice
(as was I)!  Many thanks for your support


**********
Beth Rogers wrote:
There was an article recently in Rolling Stone that dealt with a case
of =
an infant boy being injured at circumcision and raised as a girl while
=
his twin brother was raised as a boy. While not a "traditional" =
transgendered person the article is quite interesting and interviews =
several adults who were assigned a gender based on the aesthetics of
the =
genitals they were born with.  There was even an article on this in a
=
recent issue of Mademoiselle. I can't remember the month of the RS =
article but it is the issue with Mick Jagger and Keith Richards on the
=
cover. The man who was raised as a girl is known only as John/Jane and
=
the article focuses on Dr. Money and his somewhat arbitrary sex =
assigning.  A new book out is called "The Last Time I Wore a Dress" I
=
haven't had a chance to read it yet but it is a memoir of a girl who =
always felt she was a boy and her parents sent her to a mental
hospital =
in her teens where she was rewarded for being "feminine."

***
Liora Moriel wrote:
Here's what I do, which might be helpful: I suggest that sex is
hardware
(the I/O, either/or, binary stuff: man or woman) while gender is
software
(allowing for a wide range of plays/performances). Just as race is not
black/white.  That's often a useful metaphor.
E. Viola of Southhampton College, Long Island U, presented a paper on
transgender as a concept (s/he is one) and had these definitions:
TRANSGENDERISTS are male/female who spend extended periods of time in
their preferred gender roles. Their sexual orientation is usually
heterosexual but their preference is often bisexual. Their significant
others are aware, and they may display some physical manifestations of
their gender preferences (hormone therapy, electrolysis etc.)
TRANSSEXUALS are 50% biological males/50% biological females.  Often
live
and work in preferred role. May tell close friends/family or quitely
disappear into society [passing]. Their defining characteristic is a
desire to correct what they see as nature's mistake. May choose sexual
reassignment surgery, or they may not.

***
Stacey Meadow wrote
A few suggestions.  Leslie Feinberg's Transgender Warriors is a
wonderful
history of trans people (albeit a longer one than i think you want).
The
writings of Kate Bornstein would also be helpful and a bit lighter
("Gender Outlaw" and "My Gender Workbook")

***
Kay Dodder wrote:
  The policy of WWTMC, the producers of the Michigan Womyn's Music
Festival, has always been that the festival is for "mothers and
daughters", that is, women-born women.  They have maintained this
policy
against all challenges.  The only "debate" is among the transsexuals
themselves who seek admission in spite of knowing this policy.

***

Janice Raymond's book The Transsexual Empire (recently re-printed) is
animportant feminist *critique* of the "making of the she-male" as she
subtitles the book.  In other words it would provide your students
with a
powerful feminist position in the debate that few people are even
aware
of today.  She writes about Feinberg in the introduction to the recent
publication.

***
Jaime Grant wrote:
For a pro-trans feminist perspective see Minnie Bruce Pratt's S/he.
Kate
Bornstein's work, recently her "Gender Workbook," and her plays
including
"Hidden: A Gender" are fabulous.  (Kate is a bi, feminist ftm).  I
like
Loren Cameron's Body Alchemy, which is a photoessay on mtf's.
Recently, I
saw a film on mtf's entitled "You don't know dick" that included some
feminist perspectives on the part of the mtf's interviewed (I don't
know
how to track it down - through the queer filmfests, I guess).  For
theoretical work that offers feminist perspectives on gender as
performance, see Judy Butler and Eve Kosofsky Sedgewick.  Radical sex
activist Pat Califia just came out with a book on Transfolks, but I
haven't
read it and don't know whether or not to recommend it.
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PART TWO

Martha Charlene Ball wrote:
I suggest Kate Bornstein's books (one is Men, Women, and the Rest of
Us); Bornstein is a transgendered person who used to be male.
Margo Eisler, in her book The Double Standard, has a feminist critique
of transgender; Anne Fausto-Sterling in her book Myths of Gender
critiques the notion of only two sexes.  And there was a thread on
gender on this list a few months ago.

****
Julie Cox wrote:

Another very useful article is Anne Fausto-Sterling's "Why Five Sexes
are not enough?" (or something like that--I sometimes change the
article  title by mistake).  It appears in an issue of _Sciences_ (NOT
_Science_) and is about the biological sex continuum.  Written for the
layperson, she proposes at least five total categories:  female, male,
merm, herm and ferm

Female  =       female
male    =       male
Herm    =       "hermaphrodite" (most "herms" prefer "intersexual")
ferm    =       "herms" w/ more female characteristics
merms   =       "herms" w/ more male characteristics

in current medical parlance, "herms" are "true hermaphrodites" whereas
both ferms and merms are "pseudohermaphrodites".

intersexuals show us that there is, and has always been, a "sex"
continuum, transfolks now show us that there is a "gender" continuum
and
have encouraged us to question placing all "berdache" under the label
"homosexual"

You'll find that most GG ("genetic gals") who write on these areas
from a
feminist perspective a re anti-transsexual but may or may not be
anti-transgendered.  (Janice Raymond is extremely anti-trans, BTW.  I
haven't read the intro to the recently re-released _Transsexual
Empire_
but I doubt she'd want it re-published if she's changed her opinion
180
degrees.)

My favorite writer on the subject is Kate Bornstein.  She's an MTF TS
performance artist, playwright and author of _Gender Outlaw_ and the
very
new _My Gender Workbook_.  In both she questions her own
"transformation"
and asks us about why we don't do the same....  The latter work is
meant
to be very participatory.  She's terribly funny and non-threatening.

*****
John Kellermeier wrote:
I include some readings on transexuality and transgenderism in my
Intro to
Women studies Class and a short course on Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and
transexual issues.  In particular I have some short readings given to
me by
Nancy Burkholder (She is the MTF transsexual who was kicked out of
Michigan
thus setting off the confrontation between the trans world and the
MWMF)

Another good source of infromation about transsexuality, transgender
and interrsexed folk is the Internet.  A good set of definitions can
be foundat

http://www.gendertalk.com/TGism/tgism.htm

THis website does a good job of distinguishing between sexual
orientation, gender identity and sexual identity.
****
Michael Flood wrote:
For further references on transsexualism/transgender, also see the
section on this in the "Sexualities" section of my bibliography, at:
http://online.anu.edu.au/~e900392/mensbiblio/MensBiblioMenu.html

Cheers,

michael flood.

E-mail: Michael Flood <michael.flood@anu.edu.au>
Phone: [02] 6279 8468 (w). PO Box 26, Ainslie ACT, 2602, AUSTRALIA.

-- XY magazine: http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~gorkin/XY/xy.htm
-- The men's bibliography:
http://online.anu.edu.au/~e900392/mensbiblio/MensBiblioMenu.html
-- Pro-feminist men's FAQ:
http://online.anu.edu.au/~e900392/pffaq.html
-- Women's Studies Web Page: http://www.anu.edu.au/womens_studies/
-- Homophobia and masculinities among young men (Lessons in becoming a
straight man): http://online.anu.edu.au/~e900392/homophobia.html

*****

>From the Women's Presses Library Project:

Orlando's Sleep: An Autobiography of Gender
Jennifer Spry
New Victoria Publishers
1997    0-934678-80-4    P    $12.95    200pp.
A personal yet political discussion of courage, gender, sexuality, and
transformation.

Also, Lesbian Connection has had some lively letters related to the
incidents at Michigan festival -- if you can find the older issues
that go
back several years.

*****
Erika Stafford-Hill wrote:

A book which gives a pretty good synopsis (with first-person
narrative) of the history of the Michigan Women's Music Fesitval's
position on transgenders is _Sex Changes_ on the "politics of
transsexuality" (or something) by Pat Califia, 1997.  She also gives
histories and analysis of the lives of transgendered people; Feinberg
is alluded to, but she spends more time on Chrinstine Jourgensen, and
two or three other well-known and not so well known
transsexuals/transgenders - both mtf and ftm.

So far, that's the sum of what I have recieved.  Some folks sent info
that has already been submitted, so please don't be offended if you
don't see your name listed...I REALLY appreciate all of your efforts.
Thanks again.  Hope this is helpful to you all.

Donna Rowe
University of Maryland University College
Women's Studies/American Studies
dr70@umail.umd.edu
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>Looking for references to articles on, or your own syllabi, anecdotes,
>experiences in incorporating lesbian and gay material of any kind into
>mainstream curricula and gen ed courses, especially first year composition
>classes.
>
>So far, I've found 2 ERIC articles by Sara-Hope Parmeter, and would
>appreciate any information on where she is, how to contact her.
>
>Victoria Shannon
>DePaul University/Columbia University, Chicago
>VOShann@aol.com


Victoria,

I teach a gen ed intro statistics course titled Statistics in Social
Context.  This is a four hour course consisting of the equivalent of our
usual three hour statistics course coupled with a one hour course on a
social issue.  During the spring semester of the past three years I have
taught this course using gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender issues as
the basis for the one hour discussion session.

This coming June I will be presenting a paper on this course at the NWSA
annual conference.  However, the paper isn't written yet.  On the other
hand I do have some curriculum materials that explain how I run the course
and how I integrate the LGBT materials into the teaching of statistics.
These materials give a complete set of statistics word problems based on
the readings for the discussion session along with a set of reading/
discussion questions for the readings.  I can send this to you if you are
intereseted along with a copy of my syllabus.

I do have an article on this same course where the topic used is Women in
Third World Development.  You can find this article at

http://www.ihaglobal.org/iha/teachnet/9601/05.html

I would also be interested in hearing what responses wyou get from other
folks, especially concerning intergrating LGBT materials into gen ed
courses.

John Kellermeier
SUNY Plattsburgh
splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
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From:         Phyllis Holman Weisbard <PWEIS@MACC.WISC.EDU>
Subject:      correction of URL for girls' sites links page

Earlier today I sent a message about our website section
with links to sites by, for, and about girls. I made a
mistake in the last element of the URL. The correct URL
to this part of the site is:
www.library.wisc.edu/libraries/WomensStudies/girlsdev.htm

Thanks to list members who contacted me about this.
Phyllis
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The University of Akron is reconsidering where Women's Studies (and
Pan-African Studies) should be located.  Currently we are in the College
of Arts & Sciences.  The movement seems to be toward locating us under
the Assoc. Provost for Minority Affairs with other programs such as
minority student services.  Is there someplace I can find information on
the structural location of Women's Studies within the university? Does
anyone have experience, advice about this issue?  Please respond
privately to kfeltey@uakron.edu.  Thanks!
--
Kathryn M. Feltey                       kfeltey@uakron.edu
Director of Women's Studies   330-972-7008 phone
University of Akron                     330-972-5264 fax
Akron, OH 44325-6218
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hello,
I'm teaching a course on The Dinner Party during spring quarter.  Does anyone
 have information on Judy Chicago's response to criticisms on the
 underrepresentation
of women of color?  Specifically, I would like to know whether Chicago responded
 to Alice Walker's claim that the plate honoring Sojourner  Truth was not
 depicted using the
pervasive vulvar image because black women's sexuality was incomprehensible to
 Chicago.  I have read a great deal of information on this subject (including
 Chicago's most recent
autobiography, Beyond the Flower, The Dinner Party and Sexual Politics:  Radical
 Feminist Art), however I have not discovered any response to these allegations.
  Addititionally, I am
interested in similar criticisms regarding the marginilization of women of
 color's experiences in The Dinner Party?

Please respond to the list if you have information regarding this subject.

Also, I strongly encourage a list discussion on this topic.  What do you make of
 the desexualization of the plates celebrating Sojourner Truth and Sacajawea
 (the only two women of color
represented)?  Was this a conscious decision?  What are the implications of the
 desexualization of these plates?  Was Chicago incapable of imagining women of
 color's sexuality?  Or did the
different contexts framing the lives of white women and women of color influence
 Chicago?  For example, women of color were hypersexualized historically (i.e.
 Hottentot Venus), while white
women were desexualized?  Did Chicago attempt to reverse this?  Was Chicago
 attempting to be sensitive to different experiences?   How might Chicago have
 incorporated the vulva form in
these plates, without resignifyiing the hypersexualization of women of color?



your help is greatly appreciated

thanks Coleen
UCSC
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Dear Susan:
    As usual, it's a pleasure to rdead your messages.  This is one, in
particular, indicated you were among my generation of "radical feminists"
in academia.
    Regarding the main su bject, "male and female writers," thought
I'd mention Joanna Russ's little book HOW TO SUPPRESS WOMEN'S WRITING,
published by the University of Texas Press way back in 1983.
    Best regards.  Ruby Rohrlich
rohrlich@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu
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Motherhood is totally compatible with modern feminism, Mary Schweitzer.
Otherwise, mothers (feminists) in the professions wouldn't be knocking
themselves out doing two full jobs, when they could be doing one or the
other comfortably.   Hope your health is on the mend. Ruby
Rohrlich   rohrlich@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu
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This was true especially after World War II ended, when men returned from
the war and were looking for jobs that women were doing and had almost
been drafted to do in the absence of the men.  Women were ousted from
these jobs, so that men could have them, and then the great pressure
began, for women to have babies.  Ruby Rohrlich
rohrlich@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu

On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Sandra Donaldson wrote:

>      There's also the term anti-natalism, which referred to the
> tremendous social pressures on women to become mothers.  The
> glorification of motherhood and vilification of the childless were
> concerns.
>
> Sandy Donaldson
>
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The dull rirlw of Gayle Rubins's article is "The Traffic in Women: Notes
on tdhe 'Political Economy' of Sex.  It is published in Rayna R. Reiter's
TOWARD AN ANTHROPOLOGY OF WOMEN, published by the Monthly Review Press,
1975.  This collection is chock full of articles that are basic to
feminist anthropology and the other disciplines in the social sciences and
humanities.
Ruby Rohrlich   rohrlich@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu


On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Sandra Lorean wrote:

> Does anyone have the full citation for Gayle Rubin's classic article
> "Traffic in Women: Notes on the "Political Economy" of Sex."? Thank you
> in advance,
> Sandy
>
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        Hi.  Thanks to the efforts of a UMBC undergraduate Women's Studies
major and the Women's Studies secretary, the listing of Women's Studies
Programs, Departments, and Research Centers at
http://www.umbc.edu/wmst/programs.html   now includes annotation about
graduate degrees, certificates, emphases, etc.  Please be aware that the
listing covers only those programs that have web sites, and in fact only
those websites that include information about graduate offerings.

        If the information listed is incorrect, please first check the
program's website to see what information is provided there.  Don't write
to me unless the info provided on the program's website is different from
that provided in the annotation.  However, if the info IS different, or if
it's there and we missed it, or if it gets added later, I'd be most
grateful if you'd let me know.

        Also, please do not write to tell me about other graduate programs
at institutions whose women's studies programs do not have a web presence.
The listing I maintain is limited to those WS programs that one can reach on
the web.

        The URL, once again: http://www.umbc.edu/wmst/programs.html

        I hope this proves useful.

        Joan Korenman

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If anyone on the List has a current e-mail address for Dr. Carole
Garrison, please respond privately or let her know I am trying to get in
touch and forward mine to her:
<louis@umbc.edu>

She returned from a 2-year stint in Cambodia probably a good year ago,
is no longer in Akron, may be in Atlanta, and my contact numbers have
changed several times since we last communicated...

Many thanks!
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Does anyone know email for Janice Raymond and Jean Baker Miller? Thanks for
your help.
Judithk493@ao.com
