WMST-L LOG9408E ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 10:25:47 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jo Bellanca Subject: Maria Goeppert Mayer, nuclear physicist Dear All - Thank you very much to everyone who so quickly responded to my post about starting a women scientists' institute. I will gladly receive more reponses! Several people have kindly pointed out the correct spelling of Maria Goeppert Mayer's name, as well as the fact that she won the Nobel Prize in 1963 for the nuclear shell model. I also owe an apology to the nuclear physicists for the comment that nuclear, not atomic physicists, build the bombs. I was (in a rather thoughtless manner) trying to deter comments/ negative publicity (which I often receive from feminists as well as well- meaning but uninformed pc types) due to the fact that I work in atomic physics. Most nuclear physicists do not build bombs either, but study the basic structure and interactions of nuclei. Next time I will leave careless political comments out! Thanks very much again for the information and support for the institute! Jo Bellanca bellanca@insti.physics.sunysb.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 11:18:25 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Robin A. Sheets" Subject: Women's Studies + JD Degree TO: Persons in Women's Studies and/or Law FROM: Robin Sheets, Director Center for Women's Studies University of Cincinnati Cincinnati, Ohio 45221 The College of Law and the Center for Women's Studies at the University of Cincinnati are in the process of designing a four-year joint degree program whereby a student would receive the JD and an interdisciplinary MA in Women's Studies. We would appreciate hearing questions, ideas, and concerns from the following groups: 1) administrators and faculty at schools who have established or who are planning similar programs; 2) students who would be interested in such a joint degree; 3) practitioners who think that a joint degree in law and women's studies would be important in various firms, agencies, and companies. Please reply privately to robin.sheets@uc.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 16:21:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: BARTLETT ANNE Subject: c.f.p.: Society for Medieval Feminist Scholarship Please pardon the cross-postings and length.... Now that people are back from Leeds and Dublin, I'll post this one more time--please pardon the duplication! SOCIETY FOR MEDIEVAL FEMINIST SCHOLARSHIP SESSIONS Let me stress that these sessions are *not* preconstituted! The organizers eagerly await your inquiries and abstracts!!! The following corrects the addresses and topics listed in the 1995 Kalamazoo call for abstracts. For greater efficiency, please submit your proposals directly to each session organizer: 1. "Medieval"/"Renaissance": Feminists Rethink Canonicity and Periodization. Jennifer Summit, 3 Steele's Rd. London NW3 4SE, U. K. fax: 011 44 71 916 2681. Internet: jsummit@ihr.sas.ac.uk *(NEW ADDRESS) This session will explore the meanings of the terms "Medieval" and "Renaissance," as they apply to the study of medieval and early-modern women in current academic settings. Some questions to be addressed include: how does scholarship on women challenge us to rethink conventional historical and aesthetic categories (for example, "modernity")? What happens when medievalists and early-modernists come together to identify and discuss their goals, interests, and differences? 2. Negotiating our Differences: Feminisms in Dialogue. Anne Clark Bartlett, English Dept., DePaul University, 802 W. Belden Ave. Chicago, IL 60614-3214. tel.: (312) 362-5995 fax: (312) 929-9079. Internet: engacb@orion.depaul.edu This roundtable session invites feminist scholars from a variety of disciplines, generations, and methods, in order to map out our critical common ground as well as our distinctive contributions. The goal of this session is to highlight the diversity of approaches and views that comprise feminist scholarship in the 1990's, and to explore our points of contact, conflict, and potential collaboration. I'm looking for ten-minute position papers, to allow for maximum audience participation. 3. Rewriting Texts: The Hazards of Translating Medieval Women's Works. Judith Laird, Department of English, Southwest Texas State University San Marcos, TX 78666-4616 With the recent surge of interest in and acclaim for women writers from centuries past, translations of many previously overlooked texts are now in demand. But what challenges do the contemporary editing, translation, and marketing of medieval women's works raise for teachers and scholars? How does the circulation of translated texts among a new generation of readers require reexamination of the general processes, goals, and techniques of translation? 4. Dressing and Undressing Women: Cloth, Clothing, and Class in Medieval Culture. E. Jane Burns, Dept. of Women's Studies, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, NC 27599. fax: (919) 962-2262 This session invites medievalists from a variety of disciplines--including, but not limited to art history, literature, history, and theology--to examine the relationships between women and clothing. How does the production or embellishment of cloth and clothing indicate or blur social class distinctions and gender identity? How does clothing function both to conceal and to reveal the female body? We look forward to receiving your queries and submissions. Thanks for your attention and patience! Anne Clark Bartlett engacb@orion.depaul.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 18:56:17 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "NAOMI B. MCCORMICK" Organization: SUNY at Plattsburgh, New York, USA Subject: Feminist Book on Sex >Naomi B. McCormick, President of The Society for the Scientific >Study of Sex and Distinguished Teaching Professor at the State >University of New York-Plattsburgh, is pleased to announce the >November 1994 publication of _Sexual Salvation: Affirming Women's >Sexual Rights and Pleasures_ (ISBN: 0-275-94359-3; cost=$22.95, >hardcover). Illuminating the wide-ranging experiences that women of >all ages, ethnic groups, and sexual orientations have had with >sexuality and intimacy, her book links both radical and liberal >feminist scholarship with woman-affirming social science research and >psychotherapeutic work. In addition to forewords by Elizabeth Rice >Allgeier and Albert Ellis, the 304-page book includes chapters on: The >Search for Sexual Salvation; Lessons in Seduction; Love and Intimacy; >Lesbian and Bisexual Identities; Women Sex Trade Workers; Sexual >Victimization and Pornography; Woman-Affirming Models of Sexual >Fulfillment; Sexual Rights and Pleasures in the Next Century. More >information on _Sexual Salvation_ is available from Greenwood >Publishing Group, Inc., 88 Post Road West, P.O. Box 5007, Westport, CT >06881-5007; customer service telephone (203) 226-3571; FAX (203) >222-1502; toll-free, 24 hours-a- day telephone service at (800) >474-4329. ****************************************************************** Naomi B. McCormick Dept. Psychology State University of New York at Plattsburgh Plattsburgh, NY 12901 USA @@@@@@@@ @@ @@ Telephone (518) 564-3076; 564-3382 @@@ (A A) @@@ FAX (518) 564-3397 @@@ L @@@ % \ {} / % E-mail MCCORMNB@SNYPLAVA.BITNET ---- MCCORMNB@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU | | /******\ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 17:50:55 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Rebecca Hill Subject: Re: radical vs. socialist feminisms In a recent post in the Marxist feminism thread, one writer commented that radical feminists did not like Alice Echols' book _Daring to Be Bad_. I am not sure what the point of this comment was. Did the poster mean that *she* did not like the book? Why? Does the fact that some radical feminists disliked Echols' analysis mean that the book is a bad source on the history of feminism? I think that the connections between radical feminists of the late 60s and early 70s and the New Left movements of those periods are hard to ignore. For instance, Christine Delphy cited as a "radical feminist" (as opposed to a Marxist feminist?) uses a sociological analysis in _Close to Home_ which has a clearly Marxist influence: she spends a good deal of time arguing about economic relations etc. in her discussion of the history of the family, and her argument that women are a "class" which is "exploited" is clearly informed by Marxism. Her section on the "bourgeois woman" suggests a good deal of familiarity with French Communists - both "formal" and "informal." A question for the list, though, is just what are the stakes in Women's Studies around these different labels: Marxist feminist, radical feminist, liberal feminist? What is the connection between our current academic work and these debates which go back to the "movement" days of the 60s and 70s? -Rebecca Hill University of Minnesota ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 19:03:46 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Cheryl Tallan Subject: internet by women in government I am interested in receiving any information, both research and anecdotal on the use of internet by women in government. Please reply privately to ctallan@epas.utoronto.ca Thanks Cheryl Tallan ctallan@epas.utoronto.ca ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 12:51:17 +1200 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Prue Hyman Subject: WS conf 95 Could someone please give me the dates of the 1995 NWSA conference please. Prue Hyman, Economics Victoria University of Wellington PO Box 600, Wellington, New Zealand PH: (0064) 4 4955026 (or 4721000 ext 5026) FAX: (0064) 4 4712200 e-mail address: Prue.Hyman@vuw.ac.nz (or HymanP@Matai.vuw.ac.nz) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 21:32:03 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Myrna Goldenberg Subject: Re: WS conf 95 In-Reply-To: <199408300053.UAA26446@holmes.umd.edu> The sixteenth annual conference is June 21-25, 1995, in Laramie, Wyoming. Hope to see you there. Myrna Goldenberg myrnag@umd5.umd.edu On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, Prue Hyman wrote: > Could someone please give me the dates of the 1995 NWSA conference please. > > Prue Hyman, Economics > Victoria University of Wellington > PO Box 600, Wellington, New Zealand > PH: (0064) 4 4955026 (or 4721000 ext 5026) > FAX: (0064) 4 4712200 > e-mail address: Prue.Hyman@vuw.ac.nz (or HymanP@Matai.vuw.ac.nz) > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 23:41:11 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Katherine Side Subject: looking for A. Samuel I'm wondering if someone on the list could help... Alexandra Samuel posted a message to this list, and I responded privately. She can no longer be reached at the same e-mail number. Does anyone have an e-mail number for her? Respond privately please. Katherine Side klside@vm1.yorku.ca ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 14:10:33 GMT+1000 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Chris Atmore Organization: Monash Uni Arts Faculty Subject: Re: fulbright scholar 1. I need a written invitation from a Department of Anthropology, Comparative Sociology, or Women's Studies to enable me to teach (free of charge to the host institution) in the United States for 3-12 months during late 1995. This will fulfil the requirements for my application for a Fulbright Scholarship as a Post-Doctoral Fellow. My interests include cross-cultural gender issues. I specialise in Europe and Australia. Please reply within 10 days. 2. I want to contact Dorinne Kondo at Pomona College. Can anyone provide me with her full address? Please reply privately to Helen Johnson, via: Chris.Atmore@arts.monash.edu.au (Chris Atmore Department of Anthropology and Sociology Monash University Melbourne AUSTRALIA ) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 14:13:27 GMT+1000 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Chris Atmore Organization: Monash Uni Arts Faculty Subject: Re: fulbright scholar 1. I need a written invitation from a Department of Anthropology, Comparative Sociology, or Women's Studies to enable me to teach (free of charge to the host institution) in the United States for 3-12 months during late 1995. This will fulfil the requirements for my application for a Fulbright Scholarship as a Post-Doctoral Fellow. My interests include cross-cultural gender issues. I specialise in Europe and Australia. Please reply within 10 days. 2. I want to contact Dorinne Kondo at Pomona College. Can anyone provide me with her full address? Please reply privately to Helen Johnson, via: Chris.Atmore@arts.monash.edu.au (Chris Atmore Department of Anthropology and Sociology Monash University Melbourne AUSTRALIA) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 15:41:02 LCL Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Alexandra Lavau Subject: angela carter i am researching the texts of Angela Carter and am interested in subscribing to lists dealing with contemporary feminist literature. Does anyone know of any? I've been trawling cyberspace without success. Thanks, Ali Lavau, Macquarie University, Sydney. ALAVAU@pip.engl.mq.edu.au ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 03:43:16 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "MARY L. ERTEL, SOCIOLOGY" Subject: Women being underrepresented in medical research - a great source I'm just getting caught up on my mail, and wanted to give you all full informa- tion on a source I have found to be absolutely marvelous! On Aug 23, Pia Fish, requested cites to women being underrepresented in medical research. This summer, I purchased a marvelous text on this topic. It is _Unequal Treatment: What You Don't Know About How Women Are Mistreated By The Medical Community_, by Eileen Nechas and Denise Foley. Simon & Schuster, 1994, $22.00. Excellent intro and concluding chapters, with information in between on women being excluded from medical research (including more information about N.I.H.), medical information by/about/for white men,; unequal treatment in heart care, breast cancer, AIDS, aging, mental health, vis a vis violence, alcoholics/ drug abuse, poverty, abortion, and patient sexual abuse. I found this book to be well written and very readable. The chapters stand alone as well as in context. Excellent documentation/source list. I found this book in R.J. Julia, a small bookstore in Madison CT (on the CT shoreline) which has an excellent section on women's issues; is also a nice and comfortable place to visit, if you are in area (not paid or related to owners/workers in any way). I'm sure the book is also available in wider distribution. It's easy reading and a great sourcebook. Mary L. Ertel, Sociology, Central Conn State Univ, New Britain, CT ERTEL@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 07:45:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Robert W. Jensen" Subject: help finding lists a friend is looking for discussion lists that will help with research on new social movements, especially in connection with journalism and media. please send suggestions to rjensen@utxvm.cc.utexas.edu. thanks, bob jensen ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 09:53:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jeanette Heinrichs Subject: parallels racism and sexism I am interested in finding books and articles that draw parallels between sexis m and racism. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 11:00:43 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "T. Curtis" Organization: Family & Consumer Studies Subject: Other list I wonder if anyone knows the name/address of the list which addresses men's concerns called (I think) mail-men??? It was discussed on this list earlier in the year, but I lost the post. If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 10:50:52 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Ethel Tobach Subject: Re: parallels racism and sexism In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 30 Aug 1994 09:53:00 EDT from For an analysis of racism and sexism which discusses their relation- ship, please see: Challenging Racism and Sexism: alternatives to genetic explanations. Genes & Gender VII. New York, The Feminist Press, l994. Ethel Tobach & Betty Rosoff, Editors. articles: Part I: Biology, physiology and psychology: Beverly Greene, Ruth Hubbard, Gisela Kaplan and Lesley J. Rogers, Pamela Trotman Reid; Ethel Tobach and Betty Rosoff; Val Woodward Part II: Philosophical and Historical Issues in Racism and Sexism: Garland E. Allen; Linda Burnham; Gerald Horne; Gisela Kaplan Part III: Contemporary Racism andSexism in Different Ethnic communities: Bonnie Ellen Blustein; Frederica Y. Daly; Simona Sharoni; Carmen Luz Valcarcel; Choich- iro Yatani royalties: go to the Collective to send young scholars to meetings. The collective will be represented by Gerrie Casey at the Women in Science meeting in Minneapolis this spring. Ethel T. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 08:51:32 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Karen Anderson Subject: parallels racism and sexism William Chafe's Women and Equality draws parallels between racism and sexism. Karen Anderson Univ. of Arizona ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 13:43:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Bert Kritzer, UW-Madison Political Science" Subject: need summer issue of Belles Lettres Anyone who might have a copy of the summer issue of Belles Lettres and would be willing to mail or fax to me a review in it, please e-mail privately at KRITZER@POLISCI.WISC.EDU (None of the likely sources in Madison have received it). Thanks, Bert Kritzer ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 22:13:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: Sommers et al. on TV Sept 3-4 In light of the list's recent attention to Christina Hoff Sommers' book _Who Stole Feminism_, I thought I might repeat an announcement I made earlier in August, namely, that Sommers and three other writers/journalists will discuss feminism this weekend (September 3-4) on the American television program "The McLaughlin Group." The half-hour show, moderated by John McLaughlin, will also include Katha Pollitt, Julianne Malveaux, and John Leo (in addition to Sommers). In most places, "The McLaughlin Group" is carried on PBS, but in four large metropolitan areas (including New York City and Washington, DC), NBC broadcasts it. In Washington, DC, the show first airs Saturday evenings at 7:30 on channel 4; it is repeated Sundays at 11:30 am. The time(s) may differ elsewhere. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 22:19:02 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Beth Ferri Subject: kristeva list? hello- i remember hearing about a list thru majordomo on julia kristeva - have checked out what i can thru gopher and cannot seem to find it... does anyone know of such a list? and what the address is? please respond privately - thanks much! beth bferri@moe.coe.uga.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 21:24:35 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Janice Dawson-Threat Subject: equal opportunity in search committees After reading 15 messages regarding selection of the right graduate school and programs, and the do's and don'ts on getting a position on the faculty in an institution of higher education, I wonder why no one discusses the possible denial of opportunity these unwritten understandings present to today's job market? Someone briefly eluded to it in their comment about people being more global and less provincial; the advent of internet, CNN, and C-Span opening us up more; the fact that as women we are entering dual career marriages (that doesn't mean he lets her work, it means she really does have a career); so the way I see it these search committees are behind the times and really violating equal opportunity laws when one is denied the opportunity to seriously compete for a job because you received a degree or your finite degree from the advertised "equal opportunity employer". What I want to know is why we can't get a movement going that requires ads (particularly in the Chronicle of Higher Education) to state that these searches will or will not accept so called internal candidates. I'm tired of applying for jobs that reject you because they hired the internal candidate, someone with experi ence of living on that coast, or because you were the internal candidate (someone who lives within 15 miles of the personnel office) you then are granted a complimentary interview but the committee knew from the beginning they weren't hiring internal candidates. I can't win for losing! Secondly, I wanted to say that I believe that we should think of ourselves as professionals in the women studies field. If we demand that everyone who teaches these courses has a degree in the field we would lose a lot of qualified, passionate, professional people. I have always been interested in studying women, but it wasn't until my Ph.D. that an opportunity was provided for me to become professional in my approach. Today I am so committed to women's studies that I won't look for a job unless it includes the opportunity to remain affliated with a women's studies program. I am African-American and I am defying a lot of boxes that people want to place me into. But I have found if I remain professional in my approach, and continue to be good at what I'm doing even my enemies have come to respect me. Sometimes I get the E.F. Hutton treatment. People actually listen when I speak. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 23:21:31 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "D. Atkins" Subject: Body Image Task Force I have been asked to relay a message. Since my post, quite a few people have sent to the Body Image Task Force for copies of their brochures. The BITF core group would like to say that they welcome the requests (that is what they are there for), but would really appreciate it if people would include at least as self-address, stamped envelope and/or a donation if they can. The organization is really struggling to survive financially and the large influx of requests is both exciting and a little draining on their postage and printing budgets. Apparently most people have not been including any postage, and the organization is committed to providing services to anyone who requests it. Don't let this message keep you from writing though. They are happy to give you any help they can. In addition, as Research Coordinator for the organization, you are welcome to send me email with any specific problems or questions and I will try to do my best to help. Dawn Atkins datkins@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 00:41:20 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Andriana Pateris Subject: racism and sexism Paula S. Rothenberg "Racism and Sexism-An Integrated Study" ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 10:42:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: cl36 Subject: Effigy of Hilary (long) Am I the only person who was stunned to read the Associated Press article about Kentuckians burning Hilary Clinton in effigy at a political rally attended by a congressman and a Kentucky gubernatorial candidtate?( For those who might not have seen the article in question, I'm talking about "Kentuckians Burn First Lady in Effigy" in the August 30 _Washington Post_ [p. A2]." I just know that when I got to the line, "'Burn, baby, burn,' chanted Stan Arachikavitz, president of the Kentucky Association of Tobacco Supporters", chills ran up and down my spine. I've tried to figure out why my reaction is so visceral. I know it has something to do with the burning effigy being so reminiscent of lynching imagery (perhaps reinforced by the southern setting): "Arachikavitz poured gasoline on the effigy which hung from a wooden frame like a scarecrow in a dress, along with a tag reading, 'I'm Hillary." But it has to do as well, I think, with the facts that "[a] country band played as _two women_[admittedly my emphasis] set the effigy ablaze" and that an attending congressional candidate said that he "didn't see [the burning] as a hate thing." What, I wonder, constitutes a "hate thing" if not such public symbolic violence and what I see as literal encitement to violence against a woman? As I think about the introductory Women's Studies course I'm about to teach, a course in which I will ask my students to write journal entries that record and analyze the connections between their readings and the life going on in the world around them, I am reminded how difficult that sorting and connecting can be. I know that several things "ring my bells" about in this particular this event. First, as a woman with domestic violence as a part of my childhood and early adulthood, even reports of "symbolic" violence against women hurt me. Second, I am profoundly saddened that lynching imagery is used as positive reinforcement at a political rally. Third , I am saddened too that women were talked into participating--as leaders, no less--in this public act of violence against a woman whose major flaw to the people present is that she presents smoking and secondhand smoke as a public health threat. And fourth, but by no means last, I am saddened that at least one community leader cannot even see the hate implicit in such an act. Now, I apologize for the length of this post; but I'm wondering how List members "read" both the ariticle and my strong reactions to it. Do you, as many of the students in WMST 100 would, I'm just about certain, think I am reading too much into this little rally (literally little: about 100 people attended)? Do you think this is media "overreporting" or an example of media bias (against tobacco interests)? What, if any, is the nature of the difference between the threat implicit in this event and the threat a man issued yesterday about wanting to go to Martha's Vineyard to kill the President, a threat for which he has been imprisoned and sent for psychological evaluation (see today's _Post_). Do you think I have stretched too far emotionally in connecting this event to my personal life and/or to feminist politics? Did any of you have similar reactions? I'd like to use your responses (personal, if you don't think the discussion merits List bandwidth) in upcoming discussions in my WMST class. I will, of course, delete anyone's name or response at her request; but I really want to hear your reactions. Thanks. Dawnelle Loiselle dawnelle@wam.umd.edu _or_ cl36@umail.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 11:00:32 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: FREEZE PEPPA Subject: South America I am a senior political science major at Kenyon College. I have only one semester of school left and am frantically trying to plan the rst of my life. I hope to apply for a Watson Fellowship for next year. I would like to go to South America and do video documentary work. I am interested in women's co-operatives and how they effect the over-all economies of so-called developing nations. I would apppreciate any advice/contacts that list members have to offer. Thanks in advance. Please respond privately. Lesley Wiseman Wisemanl@Kenyon.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 10:47:45 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Rosa Maria Pegueros Subject: Hanging Hillary I saw this article and had a different take on it. It seems to me that burning someone in effigy is a old political symbolic act, and the fact that it is directed against a woman in this case doesn't necessarily indicate woman-hating. Unfortunately, as women become more and more involved in poli- tics, we become more involved in the vicious political games that are played. I think it will be a long time before politics is altered by women's presence in it. The reason that I am responding to the list rather than privately, however, is that I think that there is a danger in taking an isolated incident and drawing broad conclusions from it. I think that we walk a fine line in women's studies because we must discriminate between instances where there is genuine discrimination, misogyny, etc.,where the victims are chosen precisely BECAUSE they are women, and the ones where the gender of the victim is incidental. In this case, it is directed at a woman, the president's wife, but also the author of a health care bill that takes aim at the tobacco industry for its role in damaging the health of Americans. The tobacco industry is a sacred cow in this country; it adds billions of dollars to the GNP both by its jobs and sales here, and its sales overseas. There are even subsidies for tobacco farmers. My point is that in teaching about this in a women's studies class, it must be handled gingerly because it is a complex issue and not just a straightforward instance of woman-hating. Rosa Maria Pegueros PEGUEROS@URIACC.URI.EDU Dept. of History University of Rhode Island ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 12:20:53 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jane Hannigan Subject: Re: Effigy of Hilary (long) Yes, I too was disturbed by the effigy burning and felt it was a hate thing. I hear what Rose has said and I believe the issue is not so much against women as it is an attempt that fosters hatred and seemingly approves hateful acts. It is more distressing that political figures were also involved and did not v`qtmcondem+++[/5?speak out or condemn the action. Peo ple have right to express opinions and object to what they consider unacceptable but I do not think that moving to vicious action is justified--although the law may be read differently. At any cost it is a good discussion for a class because it raisesku?? issues +++S??Yissues that make people think. Jane Hannigan@Zodiac.rutgers.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 13:46:12 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Heather Munro Prescott, Department of History" Subject: conference announcement (repost) Dear Colleagues, This is a repeat of a conference announcement I posted a couple of weeks ago, for the benefit of those who may have been on vacation when the original message appeared. I am posting the following conference announcement for a colleague who is not on e-mail. PLEASE DO NOT SEND REQUESTS FOR FURTHER INFORMATION TO ME. Instead, please direct all inquiries to Linda Ford, whose address and phone numbers are indicated below. Heather Munro Prescott History Department Central Connecticut State University =============================================================================== The Western New England Women's History Conference (a regional branch of the Berkshire Conference) presents the First Annual Western New England Women's History Symposium. The Symposium will be held September 30-October 1 at the Newman Center, University of Massachusetts, Amherst. The registration cost for all attendees, which includes meals, is $35.00. For further information, please contact: Linda Ford Department of History Keene State College Keene, NH 03431-4183 (413) 586-3358 (603) 358-2965 All interested persons are encouraged to attend. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 13:41:52 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Judy Kaufman Subject: Re: Effigy of Hilary (long) I agree that there is a gray area here in whether this is an explicit act of violence against woman. But, I too had a very intense visceral reaction to the story - i.e. another example of public acceptance of violence against women. The other thing to consider here has been media treatment of H. Clinton as "the one who really wears the pants in the family." Since her position has been trivialized, along with Bill's inclusion of her as a spokesperson in the administration - I find it hard to ignore what I see as a connection. She's trivialized - therefore its okay to burn her in effigy. How many white male political leaders have been symbolically burned in effigy? Judith Kaufman Oklahoma State U. Kaufman@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 15:09:36 -0500 Reply-To: korenman@UMBC2.UMBC.EDU Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: appropriate and inappropriate messages It is often difficult to determine when a posting is appropriate for WMST-L and when it's not. Dawnelle Loiselle's recent posting entitled "Effigy of Hilary (long)" is a case in point. Dawnelle does link her concerns to her Women's Studies teaching; on the other hand, her posting invites more general discussion of gender-related societal issues, and those discussions belong for the most part on other lists (e.g., WOMEN@WORLD.STD.COM; subscription requests to MAJORDOMO@WORLD.STD.COM). Unless your reply focuses on Women's Studies teaching, research, or program administration (as, e.g., Rosie Pegueros' did), please do not send it to WMST-L. Replies focusing on your visceral reactions to the story or your thoughts about Hilary Clinton can and should be shared with Dawnelle privately (dawnelle@wam.umd.edu). And before I provoke objections from new subscribers claiming that people can simply delete the messages they don't want to see, let me point out that MANY WMST-L subscribers have limited time (some can read email only at work), limited disk space, and/or limited funds (some people pay for each message they receive). Please be considerate of those subscribers. WMST-L is not an all-purpose Women's Studies list. It focuses fairly narrowly on WS teaching, research, and program administration. 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Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 21:34:49 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Myrna Goldenberg Subject: Re: need summer issue of Belles Lettres In-Reply-To: <199408301844.OAA05735@holmes.umd.edu> I will send you a Belles Lettres. What's your address? Myrna Goldenberg Montgomery College Rockville, MD 20850 I will probably ask Janet Mullaney, the founder-editor of BL, to mail you a copy. Okay? On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, Bert Kritzer, UW-Madison Political Science wrote: > Anyone who might have a copy of the summer issue of Belles Lettres and would be > willing to mail or fax to me a review in it, please e-mail privately at > KRITZER@POLISCI.WISC.EDU > (None of the likely sources in Madison have received it). > Thanks, > Bert Kritzer > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 12:50:16 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Kate Davis Subject: Women Explorers and Feminism I am a grad student at San Francisco State Univ. working on my master's thesis. For the past couple of years I have been researching women explorers. The three women in particular I am researching happen to have been native Californians. Two of them were upper-middle-class and one is definitely upper-class. This research has raised some questions that I would appreciate receiving some feedback on. I should explain that I am not talking about casual travelers. One of the women, Louise Boyd, financed and led 8 Arctic expeditions. Harriet Adams traveled throughout South America from 1904-06 on foot, horeback, and boat (with her husband) covering over 40,000 miles. Ynez Mexia also traveled in South America with only native guides and was the first non-native woman to travel the length of the Amazon without male companionship (other than her guides who were natives). 1. If women specifically rejected identification as "feminist" even though it seems that their actions, writing, thoughts were feminist, can we identify them as feminists in retrospect? If not, how does one identify them in such a way that would explain the disparity between their self- identification and their life-styles? Boyd and Adams made a definite distinction between feminists and suffragists by the way. They defined feminists basically as masculine-appearing and acting women. Adams even went so far as to state that women's place was in the home raising a family. She offered her lack of children as an justification for living outside women's sphere. 2. During the course of my research I have interviewed elderly women who feel that California was a vastly different place for women prior to WWII. Was there something about life in California that offered women more freedom from family and marriage -- or just the luxury of having control over their own lives even if married? I know that class and money make a difference in the amount of independence women enjoyed. However, there were many more wealthy women in the East so that cannot be the whole reason. I know this is long and my questions are kind of rambling. I am still in the process of putting the pieces together. Thanks in advance for your input. Kate Davis SFSU Grad Student mkd@ix.netcom.com 434 Balmoral Way Hayward, CA 94544 510-441-2426