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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 1994 12:44:44 +0100
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
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From:         Lida Osecka <osecka@ARWEN.ICS.MUNI.CZ>
Subject:      Re: Help re Women's Mysteries/Detective Novels
In-Reply-To:  <199401220339.AA12533@aragorn.ics.muni.cz> from "Jane Hannigan"
              at Jan 21, 94 10:38:03 pm

>

 I am a newcomer - excuse my dull question:

dorothy-l, but which listserv?

Lida Osecka,
czech republic, osecka@arwen.ics.muni.cz

> Probably the best person to start with is Amanda Cross (she is Carolyn
> Heibrun) and I would suggest you place the message on Dorothy-L which
> is a listserv devoted to mysteries. They are a very responsive group
> and should provide you with sound guidance. Jane
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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 1994 09:18:32 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
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From:         Joan Korenman <KORENMAN@UMBC.BITNET>
Subject:      DOROTHYL

        Earlier today, Lida Osecka asked:

> dorothy-l, but which listserv?

        DOROTHYL (there's no hyphen before the L) is, as the earlier
message said, a list devoted to mystery literature.  The name comes from
mystery writer Dorothy L. Sayers.  To subscribe, send the usual
subscription message (SUB DOROTHYL Your Name) to LISTSERV@KENTVM (Bitnet)
or LISTSERV@KENTVM.KENT.EDU (Internet).  Messages for distribution should
go to DOROTHYL@KENTVM or KENTVM.KENT.EDU.

        I'm posting this to the list rather than replying privately to Lida
because there seems to be a lot of interest in feminist mystery literature
and thus this information may be of interest to many WMST-L readers.  By
the way, I don't subscribe to DOROTHYL; please don't send questions about
it to me or to WMST-L.  If you have questions, the information I have says
that among the listowners are Kara Robinson (KROBINSO@KENTVM or
KENTVM.KENT.EDU), Diane Kovacs (DKOVACS@KENTVM or KENTVM.KENT.EDU) and
Judith Hopkins (ULCJH@UBVMS [bitnet]).  Any of them should be able to help
you.

        Joan Korenman        Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu
                             Bitnet:   korenman@umbc
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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 1994 11:25:14 EST
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
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From:         CX89000 <CX89@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>

Dear Sir or Madam:
I am looking at this list and realizing that it is not quite right for
me.  I am looking for a list specifically on women and work -- eg.
sex segregation in the labour market.  Does anyone have any info on
listings on this topic?  I would appreciate it very much if someone
would contact me with this.
Sincerely,
Jasper Moiseiwitsch
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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 1994 12:16:43 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Jane Hannigan <HANNIGAN@ZODIAC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Help re Women's Mysteries/Detective Novels

Sorry not to provide correct data but Joan has now atended to that. Jane
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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 1994 13:56:02 EDT
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From:         "Linda Lopez McAlister <dllafaa@CFRVM.CFR.USF.EDU>"
              <DLLAFAA@CFRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      FILM REVIEW ADDED: Ruby in Paradise

  On Saturday, January 22, 1994 I reviewed "Ruby in Paradise" on "The
Women's Show" a weekly feminist radio program on station WMNF-FM (88.5)
in Tampa, Florida.

   To obtain a copy of the list send the following command to Listserv
@UMDD (Bitnet) or UMDD.UMD.EDU (Internet):

GET FILM REV100 FILM

To obtain a list of all the film reviews available, send a message to
the same listserv address that says:

INDEX FILM

To get more than one review, put each command on a separate line:

GET FILM REV6 FILM
GET FILM REV14 FILM
GET FILM REV39 FILM

The opinions expressed in these reviews were mine when I wrote the
review and represent one woman's opinion at a particular time.We have
over 2200 subscribers to WMST-L so there are probably 2199 other
views.  If you would like to share yours, please do NOT do so on the
WMST-L itself, but send your messages to me personally at the addresses
below.  I have appreciated the feedback I've received.  Thanks.

Linda

****Linda Lopez McAlister <mcaliste@chuma.cas.usf.edu>
****HYPATIA  <DLLAFAA@cfrvm.cfr.usf.edu>
****University of South Florida. SOC 107
****Tampa, FL  33620                    (813) 974-5531
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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 1994 14:43:26 EDT
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
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From:         Ellen <FRIEDMAN@TSCVM.TRENTON.EDU>
Subject:      Women's History Month at Trenton State College
In-Reply-To:  <199401211352.IAA22291@umd5.umd.edu>

 Alexandra Juhasz Mon. 2/28 l2:30 Community Commons 113  "Aids TV"
 Adrienne Munich Wed. 3/2  3:30, Forcina Hall 132 "Queen Victoria's Secrets"
 Naomi Wolf  Tues. 3/8 7:30 Student Center 202 "Fire With Fire"
 Marcia Ann Gillespie 3/23 3:30 Forcina Hall 134  "Male/Female Relationships"
 Beverly Greene  Mon. 3/28 3:30 Community Commons 113 "Psychotherapy with
      African-American Women"
 Becky Birtha Tues.4/19 3:30 Student Center 202 Poetry Reading*  Fee$5
 Tama Janowitz Tues. 4/19 4:30 Student Center 202 Reading and Lecture* Fee$5
 *One fee covers both events.  Except as noted, events are free.
Women's History Month at Trenton State College, Trenton, NJ 08648
Contact:  Ellen G. Friedman Friedman@TSCVM.Trenton.Edu, 609 7712539
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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 1994 16:29:34 -0400
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
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From:         "Joan D. Mandle" <JDMANDLE@COLGATEU.BITNET>
Subject:      Guilty If Charged

 The January 13, l994 New York Review of Books carries an article by
Richard Bernstein, a New York Times reporter, on an incident this fall
at the University of New Hampshire. The article, titled "Guilty if
Charged" makes a number of what I find to be very disturbing claims about
the absence
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the absence of academic freedom at that institution. Charges were brought
against a tenured English professor on grounds of sexual harassment, But
the article reports that the evidence against him was very weak and focused
largely on words he used in class which made student "feel uncomfortable."
Nonetheless he was "convicted" and punished by the institution.
I would like to have information concerning this case sent to the list by
anyone who knows more about what happened at UNH. If Bernstein is correct
in his interpretation, we are all at risk of censure by "uncomfortable"
students and academic freedom has little meaning. I am planning on discus-
sing John MOney's research next week in my class based on twin boys, one
of whose penis was destroyed during circumcision. Will I offend my male
students who are sure to be made "uncomfortable" by this discussion. When
I discuss lesbian patterns of sexuality will I be offending others because
I have used the word "sex" or "lesbian" for that matter.
Sexual harassment is serious and should be prevented and/or punished by
colleges and universities as by other institutions, but we must be VERY
clear what we mean by such terms. Discomfort of some kinds (but not others)
in a classroom is not only legitimate but necessary for learning to go on.
I am worried about what looks like the opening salvo of a new McCarthyism with
some of my comrades perhaps on the wrong side.
        I welcome discussion of this issue, this article, and any additional
information list members may provide.
Joan D. Mandle
Director of Women's Studies
Colgate UNiversity             jdmandle@colgateu
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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 1994 16:21:40 CST
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From:         "MARY E. FISCHER" <fischr@VAXA.WEEG.UIOWA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Guilty If Charged

Here at the University of Iowa we have been wrestling over the use of materials
which may be objectionable to students.  The last iteration of policy is that
material of a sexual nature should be preceded by a statement that the students
have a right to leave if they find the subject objectionable.  The medical
school is having fits.  (So are many others, of course.)  One incident was
a claim filed by a female student that she was _forced_ to watch a movie
containing homosexual material.  Both incidents involved homosexual material
so the situation is very cloudy.  Are we talking about academic freedom,
homophobia, or harassment?  I'd like to hear from others on this subject.
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        Mary E. Fischer

        Mary-Fischer@uiowa.edu

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 1994 22:35:58 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
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From:         Grainne Matthews <X92MATTHEW11@WMICH.EDU>
Subject:      Women College Student Retention

This is a repeat request:
I am Assistant Director of a Minority Student Retention program. We are
planning to expend our focus from ethnic minority at risk students to all
students facing challenges to retention and graduation. I would like to see a
much greater emphasis on women, given the multiple obstacles they/we must
overcome to stay in college once admitted.
I need two things:
1. Information to document the obstacles faced by women students
2. Leads on funding sources. OUr current grant is from teh State Education
department and we are exploring the federal DOEducation.
Please respond privately to
x92matthew11wmich.edu
Many thanks
Grainne
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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 1994 22:54:00 EDT
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From:         {Beth Horlitz} <HORLITZ@HARTFORD.BITNET>
Subject:      Judy Chicago

Judy Chicago has a new installation, The Holocaust Project, that is touring
the U.S. right now.  Does anyone know if she has produced an accompanying
book for it and , if so , how I might get it?

Is there a list that deals specifically with the topic of art history from
a feminist perspective?

Thanks,

Beth Horlitz  Horlitz@Hartford.Bitnet
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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 1994 21:02:00 -0700
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
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From:         Wendy Burton <burton@FVC.BC.CA>
Subject:      discussion lists for classes
In-Reply-To:  <199401211915.OAA04369@umd5.umd.edu>

I recently telnetted to inform.umd.edu and downloaded an article by
AKahn and SO'Hare "A computer bulletin board in women's studies
courses".  It's in the email/womensstudies/reading room (I think).
You might find this useful.  There are two or three recent notes
about using listservs for classes, made on wmst-l, and if those
folks don't respond in the next little while, e-mail me and I'll
patch the references to you.
    Wendy Burton (burton@fvc.bc.ca)
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Date:         Sun, 23 Jan 1994 18:22:56 +0200
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From:         Tea Berndtson <TBERNDTSON@CC.HELSINKI.FI>
Subject:      contacts in Peru

I would be very happy if I could get in touch with feminist scholars and
researchers in Peru. My Spanish isn't very good yet so I wish to get in
touch with somebody who speaks English but I appreciate any information you can
give me. I'm going to be in Lima from the beginning of March. Please, answer
privately.

I wish sunny spring to all of you!

Tea Berndtson
University of Helsinki, Department of Sociology
e-mail: Tea.Berndtson@Helsinki.Fi
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Date:         Sun, 23 Jan 1994 09:26:22 -0800
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
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From:         Joan Ariel <jariel@UCI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Judy Chicago
In-Reply-To:  <199401230401.XAA19577@umd5.umd.edu>

Yes, Viking Penguin has published Holocaust Project: From Darkness into
Light by Judy Chicago with photographs by Donald Woodman (husband).  $40
hardcover; $22.50 paperback.

jariel@uci.edu

On Sat, 22 Jan 1994, {Beth Horlitz} wrote:

> Judy Chicago has a new installation, The Holocaust Project, that is touring
> the U.S. right now.  Does anyone know if she has produced an accompanying
> book for it and , if so , how I might get it?
>
> Is there a list that deals specifically with the topic of art history from
> a feminist perspective?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Beth Horlitz  Horlitz@Hartford.Bitnet
>
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Date:         Sun, 23 Jan 1994 12:34:20 -0600
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
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From:         Kate Kelly <KEK941A@VENUS.TAMU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WMST-L Digest - 21 Jan 1994 to 22 Jan 1994

I am responding to the discussion of what constitutes sexually offen-
sive material.  I teach at a university attended by many conservative
Christian students, also by ROTC students, and by a growing population
of Hispanic and African-American students.  When I have taught materials
that could, given this population, be construed as "offensive," I always
preface the materials with a "warning": this material is sometimes con-
sidered controversial.  You are free to leave for this period if you
wish, and will, without penalty, be provided substitute materials.
In this way, students are warned and I am, in some loose way, protected.
However, this entire issue has chilled the presentation of controversial
subjects and has undoubtedly had a negative effect on academic freedom.
When I taught D. W. Griffiths' film, "Birth of a Nation" a couple of
years ago, I prefaced it with the warning that it was offensively racist.
Nevertheless, the predominately white audience snickered at the portrayall
of Blacks in the film (most of them white actors in black face), which
led to one Af-Amer student walking out and dropping the class.  We are
all sensitive but unequally so: standards for offense vary from group to
group, so how are we to proceed?  Perhaps the use of "sensitivity" as an
index for proper behavior in these contexts needs to be replaced by the
hypothetical (not to mention mythical) "reasonable person" standard.
But this hardly solves the problem.  I am swinging towards greater tol-
erance to "insensitivity" (a la W. Goldberg--right on, I say!) bc it
represents the least evil.  Amen.  Kate E. Kelly KEK941A@VENUS.TAMU.EDU
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Date:         Sun, 23 Jan 1994 23:25:35 +0200
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         harriet hartman <hartman@BGUMAIL.BGU.AC.IL>
Subject:      SIROW conference

Does anyone have any information about the SIROW conference March 10-13
at Ariz. State? I believe I have something to contribute and would like
to know who to contact. Please respond privately.
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Date:         Sun, 23 Jan 1994 16:41:29 EST
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
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From:         Jennifer Ting <ST403328@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Feminist Art History panels

I'm posting this to the list, since a couple of people have asked about
feminist art history in the past few months.  The 82nd Annual Conference
of the College Art Association (16-19 February, NYC) features a number
of panels on this topic (including "Gender Issues in Indian Art and Art
History," "The Female Grotesque," and "Daughters of Feminism:  Feminism
as a Passage out of Art History"), as well as panels which don't
specifically thematize feminism but include feminist speakers.

For registration info, contact CAA, Dept. A, 275 Seventh Avenue, NY NY
10001 (sorry, I have no phone #).

I would also be happy to copy the program I have for those who are
primarily interested in identifying feminist scholars within this
discipline.

Jennifer Ting
Department of American Civilization
Brown University


 jen  <-->  st403328@brownvm  <-->  st403328@brownvm.brown.edu
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Date:         Sun, 23 Jan 1994 17:00:00 EST
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From:         Christine Smith <CSMITH@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WMST-L Digest - 21 Jan 1994 to 22 Jan 1994

The subject of what consistutes offensive material has
struck a cord with me, and I would like to know how others
have handled it, both before teaching the materials, and
after students have complained.  I am currently teaching
"Female Sexuality".  After the 2nd class I was reported to the
Dean by a few students, who seemed to be offended by my
"liberalism" regarding sexuality.  The complaints were
extremely vague, so I am not even sure what they specifically
had a problem with.  However, I did teach theories by
MacKinnon and Dworkin (along with Amber Hollibaugh), so my
guess is that they found this stuff "too radical"(and
"male bashing").  The
Dean has no problem with what I am teaching, but she wants
the students to leave her alone.  I have no intention of
lightening up (and I have heard from other faculty that
many students have been raving about the course), but I do want
to address the problems of the small minority of students that
have taken offense with some of the theories, and will no
doubt continue to do so.  If anyone has any suggestions, I
would appreciate them.  You can responde privately, unless
you feel that responses may be of general interest to the List.
     Christine Smith
     csmith@vms.cis.pitt.edu
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Date:         Sun, 23 Jan 1994 23:03:12 -0800
Reply-To:     Angela Ginorio <ginorio@u.washington.edu>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Angela Ginorio <ginorio@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Reference for text on women and violence
In-Reply-To:  <9401212355.AA02500@walker.u.washington.edu>

I'll be teaching a course on Women and Violence to advanced undergradutes
in an evening program. This means that they will be mostly full-time
working people doing a degree in the evening--with very varied
backgrounds (both experiential and course-wise).  What kind of textbook
would you suggest?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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Date:         Sun, 23 Jan 1994 23:35:59 -0700
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From:         Carol Edelman <CEDELMAN@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Judy Chicago

How does one find out more about Judy Chicago's traveling Holocaust tour?
    Carol
cedelman@oavax.csuchico.edu
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 00:04:45 -0800
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
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From:         Harold Frank <hfrank@BCF.USC.EDU>
Subject:      Black Women in Search of Themselves 1894-1994

re:  MIT Conference:  Black Women in Search of Themselves 1894-1994

This conference was held during the past week or so.  I was not able
to attend but am interested in the subject matter and would appreciate
hearing from anyone who did.

I would think a commentary on the conference would be of interest to
WMST-L but please respond to me privately if you are in doubt.

Hal Frank


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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 06:05:25 EST
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From:         Jo Freeman <JFRBC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject:      article search

I'm looking for an article or book chapter on feminsm and Asian American or
Native American women written within the last three years.  I need something
basic, with lots of explanation, some data, and no jargon.  If anyone knows of
pieces fitting this description, please send cite (not just author's name) so I
 can find it.
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 07:06:00 EST
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From:         A Deborah Malmud <adm1@COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      judy chicago

Judy Chicago presented a slide talk on her Holocaust Project at the
recent conference sponsored by Tikkun Magazine in New York City. Tikkun
can be reached at 251 West 100th St, 5th floor, New York City, 10025.
phone: 212-864-4110; fax 212-864-4137. Someone there can probably give
you contact information for Chicago.
A. Deborah Malmud
adm1@columbia.edu
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 08:55:37 -500
Reply-To:     "Giavanna J. Munafo" <gjm9u@darwin.clas.virginia.edu>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         "Giavanna J. Munafo" <gjm9u@DARWIN.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      afr.-american studies list

I learned recently of an African-American Studies list to which interested
scholars can subscribe that is similar to this one. If anyone has the
information re: subscribing, please send it to me privately. Thanks--
Giavanna Munafo
gjm9u@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 09:00:09 GMT
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
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Comments:     DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
From:         SHERIDAN HARVEY <HARVEY2@MAIL.LOC.GOV>
Subject:      DOMINICAN REPUBLIC

           I have a friend who is going to the Dominican Republic in April
           .  She is not on email, and so asked me to ask if any of you kn
           ow women in that country who are involved in women's issues.  M
           y friend does speak reasonable Spanish and would like to meet s
           ome interesting people there.//Please reply to me privately at:
             Harvey2@mail.loc.gov//Thank you.    Sheridan Harvey
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 09:22:14 EST
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From:         "Kathleen Marszycki." <Kathleen.Marszycki@TRINCOLL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Request for Info

>I am trying to locate additional scholarly references to the "crone"
>as a concept used in feminism. I have located the books by Babrara
>Walker but am seeking additional titles. This is for a colleague
>doing some research involving the concept of the crone. Jane
>Please reply to: Hannigan@Zodiac.rutgers.edu


Jane-- am sending my reply over the WMST-L because in the past I myself
have received "negative" comments about responding privately on a subject
that may be of interest to many on the list.  So here goes --

I'm interested in investigating the stereotyping of the "spinster" or, as
you term it, the "crone" within literature.  Two books I would highly
recommend would be NEVER MARRIED WOMEN by Barbara Levy Simon (Temple UP
1987) and OLD MAIDS TO RADICAL SPINSTERS IN THE NOVEL edited by Laura Doan
with an excellent intro my Nina Auerbach (1991).  Good luck and I would
like to see what you compile from your query.

Kelly
kathleen.marszycki@mail.trincoll.edu
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 09:47:54 -0500
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From:         d000wgsp@LEO.BSUVC.BSU.EDU
Subject:      research on violent children

Hi--
    For the umpteenth time yesterday I encountered someone who charged
career women who refuse to stay home with the degeneration of the family and
increased violence among children.  What I'd like to know is, has anyone
done any research to see what % of violent crimes are done by children of
women who have CAREERS, women who go out of the home to work in JOBS,
and women who stay home?  If not, does this sound like a good kind of
research project?    (I'm in literature, not the social sciences, so
I'm not a good judge of what is a plausible subject).  Thanks.
Irene Goldman 00ICGOLDMAN@BSUVC.BSU.EDU
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 09:50:42 -0500
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From:         d000wgsp@LEO.BSUVC.BSU.EDU
Subject:      Re: WMST-L Digest - 21 Jan 1994 to 22 Jan 1994

Regarding teaching potentially objectionable material, what has
always worked for me is bringing up the topic in the classroom and
allowing students to discuss the potential of the material to offend.
If you invite that kind of conversation and agree that some people
might be made uncomfortable by the material, but you have good reason to
teach it anyway, usually the talk remains in the classroom rather than
going above your head.     Good luck!  Irene Goldman  00ICGOLDMAN@BSUVC.BSU.EDU
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 09:51:52 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
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From:         d000wgsp@LEO.BSUVC.BSU.EDU
Subject:      Re: Request for Info

Please note--crones are not always spinsters.  The idea is that women
gain wisdom when they age past their childbearing years.  Many a crone
has children and grandchildren.
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From:         Kirsch Vicki L <vlkirs@MAIL.WM.EDU>
Subject:      article search

    The anthology MAKING FACE, MAKING SOUL/HACIENDO CARAS by Gloria
Anzaldua has numerous recent articles by Native American women and
Asian American women and feminism.

Vicki Kirsch
vlkirs@wm.mail.edu
College of William and Mary
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From:         "Giavanna J. Munafo" <gjm9u@DARWIN.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      PC in the classroom
In-Reply-To:  <199401231837.NAA24900@umd5.umd.edu>

The recent string of queries and suggestions re: what is ok to say/do in
the classroom contributes to a wide-ranging and often much too polarizing
debate about what some critics have called "the PC movement". Women's
Studies classrooms are often attacked under the guise of protecting
students from the "PC" indoctrination that supposedly goes on under the
guise of inclusiveness or sensitivity to differences. As may be obvious, I
object to such objections, for the most part, because I believe that most
of the instructors out there doing this so-called indoctrinating are doing
no such thing. Anti-PC invectives posit a unified, coherent "movement"
determined to police students' attitudes and language. No such "movement"
exists. What does exist is a large number of more or less affiliated or
intellectually congenial teachers trying to undo the real work of
thought-police: ignorance and intolerance. Anyway, to add my two cents,
although a statement that students who find material 'offensive' may,
without penalty, absent themselves from the classroom may solve the
institutional issue of culpability, it may may not best serve our
students. Rather, attempting to create an environment where students who
do disagree or feel uncomfortable can voice their concerns safely and be
supported in them--however strongly we as individuals may disagree with
them--may enable a much more productive dialogue and keep those students
involved (instead of allowing them to opt out). This is a difficult task.
I'd be interested in hearing from others about success stories in this arena.
Giavanna Munafo
gjm9u@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 09:28:45 CST6CDT
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From:         Jyotsna Vaid <JXV@PSYC.TAMU.EDU>
Organization: tamu/psycdept
Subject:      ws survey reminder

I want to thank all of you who have sent in your survey replies (for
the women's studies survey on programs administration/budget etc.
I circulated last week). Since I need to summarize the responses
by next week I would urge anyone else who hasn't replied to do
so by this Saturday (Jan 29). If you deleted the survey - write me
and I can send another copy. Thanks again. Jyotsna Vaid
(Psychology/Texas A&M/College Station, TX. 409-845-2576). e-mail:
jxv@psyc.tamu.edu


Jyotsna Vaid
Dept. of Psychology
Texas A & M University
College Station, TX 77845-4235
(409) 845-2576
(409) 845-4727 (fax)
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 10:25:29 EST
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From:         Margaret Susan Thompson <THOMPSON@MAXWELL.SYR.EDU>
Subject:      Supreme Court RICO ruling

According to an announcement I just heard on the news (c. 10:20 a.m.,
e.s.t.), the US Supreme Court just issued a unanimous ruling that
RICO statutes CAN be used against anti-abortion groups like
"Operation Rescue."  This was described as a "tremendous victory" for
groups like NOW and NARAL, and a "devastating defeat" for groups like
"Rescue."
    Peggy
Margaret Susan Thompson
thompson@maxwell.syr.edu
Dept. of History, 145 Eggers Hall
Syracuse University
Syracuse, NY 13244-1090
315-443-5882, 443-2210
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 10:42:31 -0500
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From:         "Janet E. McAdams" <jmcadam@EMORYU1.CC.EMORY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: article search
In-Reply-To:  <9401241109.AA00787@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>

You might look at "American Indian Women: At the Center of Indigenous
Resistance in North America" in THE STATE OF NATIVE AMERICA, M. Annette
Jaimes, ed. Boston: South End Press, 1992.

A couple of older articles are
Rayna Green, "Native American Women,"SIGNS Winter 1980
and Rayna Green, "The Pocahontas Perplex: The Image of Indian Women in
Anerican Culture," MASSACHUSETTS REVIEW 16, #4 (1975).

On Mon, 24 Jan 1994, Jo Freeman wrote:

> I'm looking for an article or book chapter on feminsm and Asian American or
> Native American women written within the last three years.  I need something
> basic, with lots of explanation, some data, and no jargon.  If anyone knows of
> pieces fitting this description, please send cite (not just author's name) so
 I
>  can find it.
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 09:57:06 CST
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From:         Mary Todd <U24930@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Judy Chicago
In-Reply-To:  Message of Sun,
              23 Jan 1994 23:35:59 -0700 from <CEDELMAN@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU>

You might contact the Spertus College of Judaica in Chicago, where the
echibit will be until sometime in April, for information on where it
will go from there.  Sorry I don't have a phone #, but Spertus is
located on Michigan Avenue.

Mary Todd
Women's Studies
The University of Illinois at Chicago
u24930@uicvm

>How does one find out more about Judy Chicago's traveling Holocaust tour?
>    Carol
>cedelman@oavax.csuchico.edu
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 10:05:00 CDT
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From:         Phyllis Holman Weisbard <PWEIS@MACC.WISC.EDU>
Subject:      Reference source on women's detective novels

There's a new annotated bibliography on female detectives:

DellaCava, Frances A. and Madeline H. Engel
FEMALE DETECTIVES IN AMERICAN NOVELS: A BIBLIOGRAPHY AND ANALYSIS OF SERIALIZED
FEMALE SLEUTHS. NY: Garland, 1993.

    There's an historical/analytic essay and bibliography of 636 novels
featuring 161 sleuths, representing the work of 147 authors (some male) going
back to the 1890s "lady detectives." Note that to be included there has to be
more than one novel featuring the same character.
    Phyllis Holman Weisbard
    pweis@macc.wisc.edu
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 12:28:34 -0500
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From:         Sarah Elizabeth Chinn <sec8@COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: judy chicago
In-Reply-To:  <199401241355.AA08813@mailhub.cc.columbia.edu>

There was a long and very interesting article in the _Village Voice_ about
a month or two ago about the Holocaust Project. It was critical of Chicago
in general and the project in particular, and was written from an
explicitly Jewish feminist perspective.  Definitely worth taking a look at.

Sarah Chinn
sec8@columbia.edu
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 12:09:13 -0600
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From:         blake debra j <djblake@UMAXC.WEEG.UIOWA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Chicano and Chicana literature
In-Reply-To:  <199401212030.PAA14254@umd5.umd.edu>

Two writers who have best addressed these issues are Cherrie Moraga and
Gloria Anzaldua. Moraga's works are: Loving in the War Years and The Last
Generation. Anzaldua's work: Borderlands/La Frontera. These texts
also address lesbian issues within the Chicano culture, especially
Moraga's works.
    Occupied America: A History of Chicanos by Rodolfo Acuna and
Aztlan: Essays on the homeland (I think that's the title) are also
interesting perspectives. Also, a great deal of Chicano/a literature deals
with these topics.
    Debbie Blake  djblake@umaxc.uiowa.edu

On Fri, 21 Jan 1994, AMY KASTELY wrote:

> For a student who is a Mexican-American man from El Paso, I would
> be grateful for references to work by Chicano and Chicana writers
> that would help him think about marginalization, cultural imperialism,
> double vision, and related notions.
> Please send messages to me and I will compile a list for a general
> posting.
> Thank you,
> Amy Kastely
> amy@vax.stmarytx.edu
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 12:35:46 CST
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From:         Deb Morrow <CORZINES@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU>

THE WOMEN'S STUDIES PROGRAM AT SOUTHERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY AT
CARBONDALE (SIUC) IS INTERESTED IN YOUR INDIVIDUAL AND/OR UNIVERSITY'S
APPROACHES TO THE FOLLOWING FOUR CONCERNS.

(1)  DOES YOUR UNIVERSITY/DEPARTMENT/COLLEGE OFFER SPLIT TENURE
     POSITIONS FOR DUAL-CAREER COUPLES WHO ARE IN THE SAME FIELD?

(2)  DOES YOUR UNIVERSITY/DEPARTMENT/COLLEGE OFFER HELP IN FINDING
     PROFESSIONAL POSITIONS FOR DUAL-CAREER COUPLES WHO MAY NOT BE IN
     THE SAME FIELD, OR WHO DO NOT WANT A SPLIT-TENURE POSITION?

(3)  DOES YOUR UNIVERSITY/DEPARTMENT/COLLEGE ALLOW A WOMAN TO DELAY
     THE TENURE CLOCK FOR PREGNANCY?

(4)  DOES YOUR UNIVERSITY/DEPARTMENT/COLLEGE HAVE A MECHANISM TO HIRE
     SOMEONE TO TAKE A FACULTY MEMBER'S CLASSES DURING HER MATERNITY
     LEAVE SO THAT WOMEN ARE NOT SEEN AS A UNIQUE CLASS IMPOSING ON
     THEIR COLLEAGUES?  ALTHOUGH CURRENT POLICY OFTEN ALLOWS LEAVE, IT
     IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE IF THE BABY IS BORN DURING THE SEMESTER.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT OUR HIGHER ADMINISTRATION IS LOOKING
INTO, AND ASKED OUR INPUT.  THIS SEEMED TO BE A LOGICAL STARTING PLACE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT.  PLEASE RESPOND PRIVATELY TO:
CORZINES@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU; OR IF YOU WISH TO RESPOND IN WRITING, DEBBIE
MORROW, WOMEN'S STUDIES PROGRAM, MAILSTOP #6518, SIUC, CARBONDALE IL 6290
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 10:39:42 -0800
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From:         "Marilyn P. Safir" <safirm@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: research on violent children
In-Reply-To:  <9401241448.AA00530@walker.u.washington.edu>

This Blaming of mother's with careers smacks of "backlash". In the Late
'50's-60's there were attacks on working mothers and what were called
their latch key kids who wer "terribly nreeglected" and "out on the
streets juvinal delinquents". Lois Hoffman ( and coauthor whose name I
have forgotten and date of publication - I am on sabbatical without most
of my books) analyzed the data that "proved that mothers working out of
the  were responsible for the increase incrime" and showed that low SES -
Poverty was cause.  Infact it was found that the children who "suffered"
tended to be those whose mothers who wanted to work but stayed home "to
be with the Kids" or those that had to work but didn't want to "suffered"
equally ie if mother was unhappy it efects the kids-  Generally speaking
the only difference between kids whose mothers worked or didn't work out
of the home was that kids in the first group were more indepandent than
those whose mothers were homemakers.   according to todays statistics
only about 10% of US families are tradition with the father the only
bread winner and obviously those families are primarily in the higher
income brackets.  Marilyn
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 14:05:52 EST
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From:         "Kathleen Marszycki." <Kathleen.Marszycki@TRINCOLL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Request for Info

>Please note--crones are not always spinsters.  The idea is that women
>gain wisdom when they age past their childbearing years.  Many a crone
>has children and grandchildren.

I wasn't implying that crones = spinsters.  However, as I'm trying to
clarify these "categorizations" that have been with us women for centuries,
I would like to suggest that the negative definition of crone as "a
withered, witchlike old woman" may have eventually linked the spinster to
the crone in the eye of the male, especially within the context of
"withered" implying "not (or no longer) fertile" and therefore superfluous
to them?

I believe Auerbach makes a good connection of these images we're all
familiar with through folktales, fairytales, etc. to the present with the
notorious witchlike spinster figure of Glenn Close in "Fatal Attraction."
More importantly, how do we read these continuing negative connotations?
If I'm off base here, I'd like to know.

Kathleen.Marszycki@mail.trincoll.edu
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 14:13:54 EST
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From:         "Myers, Joann" <JZLY@MARISTB.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Request for Info
In-Reply-To:  In reply to your message of MON 24 JAN 1994 09:22:14 EST

Am I wrong?  I've always thought CRONE was used to describe a
woman of a certain age (past menopause) who was wise; while
SPINSTER was any unmarried woman past the nubile (marriagable)
age...
JoAnne
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 14:28:09 EST
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From:         Shelley Haley <shaley@ITSMAIL1.HAMILTON.EDU>
Subject:      Black women in the academy

This is in reference to Hal Frank's query about the recent conference at
MIT.  First of all, the title of the conference was Black Women in the
Academy Defending Our Name, 1894-1994--not "in search of ourselves."

I went both as a presenter and a participant;it was an incredibily
empowering, but sometimes frustrating experience.  There were 2010
attendees and I suffered serious culture shock returning to the
overwhelming whiteness of central NY.

Shelley Haley
Dept of Classics
Hamilton College
shaley@itsmail1.hamilton.edu
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 14:31:41 EST
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From:         "Myers, Joann" <JZLY@MARISTB.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Request for Info
In-Reply-To:  In reply to your message of MON 24 JAN 1994 14:05:52 EST

Kathleen just posted something else that stimulated the recesses
of my brain: re:'the negative definition of crone as "a withered, witchl
ike old woman"...linked..in eye of the male...implying "not (or no
longer) fertile" and therefore superfluos to them?'
Awhile back I was talking with a colleague who is a behavioral biologist
who mentioned that 'witches' were usually women past their childbearing
years, who were either widowed or not married who had property, skills,
etc., and therefore did not need a male, and were,thus, threatening to
males.  The way to remove these women of independent means was to
accuse them of being witches, and either they died provingthey were
not witches, or they died because they were (drowning, burning, hanging)
Have any of you come across a citation for the above?
JoAnne
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 14:20:32 -0500
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From:         Linda Pershing <LLP@ALBNYVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Locating Paula Rothenberg

I am trying to locate a phone number or email address for Paula Rothenberg.
I know that she is affiliated with the New Jersey Project, but need
something more specific.
        Please respond privately. Thanks, Linda Pershing, Dept. of Women's
Studies, SUNY Albany
        LLP@uacsc1.albany.edu  or  LLP@ALBNYVMS.bitnet
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 12:12:31 -0800
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From:         Brenda Brasher <brasher@SCF.USC.EDU>
Subject:      Crones, et al.
In-Reply-To:  <9401241921.AB11925@chaph.usc.edu> from "Kathleen Marszycki." at
              Jan 24, 94 02:05:52 pm

There has been a lot of work on crones & so forth by Mary Daly [see
GynEcology, for example] and in the Goddess movement in general --
trying to work to reclaim this and  similar language as words of
power & wisdom for  mature power and wisdom for women.

Brenda E. Brasher
University of Southern California
brasher@usc.edu
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 15:40:37 -500
Reply-To:     "Giavanna J. Munafo" <gjm9u@darwin.clas.virginia.edu>
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From:         "Giavanna J. Munafo" <gjm9u@DARWIN.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      Native-Am. Women & Feminism
In-Reply-To:  <199401241927.OAA09828@umd5.umd.edu>

Here's another reference that Jo Freeman and others on the list may find
helpful re: Native American Women and Feminism: "Who is Your Mother?: Red
Roots of White Feminism," Paula Gunn Allen in _Multi-Cultural Literacy_,
eds. Rick Simonson and Scott Walker (Graywolf, 1988).
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 16:08:44 -0500
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From:         martha ecker <mecker@ULTRIX.RAMAPO.EDU>
Subject:      World Philosophy Course

Does anyone have a syllabus for a "World Philosophy" course?  I need a
few examples as soon as possible.  Please respond privately.  Thanks.
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 16:34:56 EST
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From:         "Kathleen Marszycki." <Kathleen.Marszycki@TRINCOLL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Request for Info

>Am I wrong?  I've always thought CRONE was used to describe a
>woman of a certain age (past menopause) who was wise; while
>SPINSTER was any unmarried woman past the nubile (marriagable)
>age...
>JoAnne


This is very interesting -- then why do some (obviously not all)
dictionaries NOT mention the crone's wisdom?  rather selective defining,
wouldn't you say?

kathleen.marszycki@mail.trincoll.edu
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 16:22:22 EST
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From:         Kathy Feltey <R1KMF@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Request for Info
In-Reply-To:  Message of Mon,
              24 Jan 1994 14:05:52 EST from <Kathleen.Marszycki@TRINCOLL.EDU>

I am asking for this information for a student who is doing research on
women involved in anti-feminist social movements.  She is aware of Dworkin's
Right-Wing Women and Kristin Luker's The Politics of Motherhood.  Are there
other sources she can reference as she develops her research agenda?  Please
answer privately to Kathy Feltey (R1KMF@AKRONVM).  I will post what I get if
folks are interested.  Thanks in advance!
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 16:01:47 -0500
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From:         "JENNIFER R. SCANLON" <SCANLOJR@SNYPLAVA.BITNET>
Organization: SUNY at Plattsburgh, New York, USA
Subject:      feminist/pop culture research in Mexico

I will be in Mexico this summer, conducting research on popular magazines
for adolescent girls.  If anyone on this list has any contacts who work on
feminist/popular culture issues in Mexico, I would appreciate receiving
their names and addresses.  I plan to be there during the month of July.
Thanks,

                                        Jennifer Scanlon
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 17:10:11 +119304128
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From:         Susan Smith <scsmith@POLAR.BOWDOIN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: research on violent children
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "d000wgsp@LEO.BSUVC.BSU.EDU" at Jan 24,
              94 09:47:54 am

Regarding violence in children, I would suggest a book entitled Boys Will
Be Boys by Myriam Miedzian. She makes the point that we do not have
violent children, we have violent boys.
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 17:13:15 -0500
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From:         Jane Elza <jelza@GRITS.VALDOSTA.PEACHNET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Request for Info
In-Reply-To:  <199401241710.MAA21926@umd5.umd.edu>

i just read a science fiction short story in a book entitled the hotel
andromeda in which crones were infertile older women who were eaten
because they secreted a hormone younger women needed to become fertile.
this probably doesn't help you, but i thought i'd throw that in since
crone is not a word currently used much.
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 17:15:49 -0500
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From:         martha ecker <mecker@ULTRIX.RAMAPO.EDU>
Subject:      World Philosophy Program

I'm sorry, I really need information about the requirements for a World
Philosophy program or major, not a single course.  Thanks.  Please
respond privately.

Martha Ecker
mecker@ultrix.ramapo.edu
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 16:31:37 CST
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From:         Mary Todd <U24930@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Request for Info
In-Reply-To:  Message of Mon, 24 Jan 1994 14:31:41 EST from <JZLY@MARISTB>

Joann Meyers asked about witches being women who had property but
no men in their lives.  Carol Karlsen's _The Devil in the Shape
of a Woman_ supports that theory with regard to the witchcraft
episodes in colonial New England.

Mary Todd
Women's Studies
The University of Illniois at Chicago
u24930@uicvm

>Awhile back I was talking with a colleague who is a behavioral biologist
>who mentioned that 'witches' were usually women past their childbearing
>years, who were either widowed or not married who had property, skills,
>etc., and therefore did not need a male, and were,thus, threatening to
>males.  The way to remove these women of independent means was to
>accuse them of being witches, and either they died provingthey were
>not witches, or they died because they were (drowning, burning, hanging)
>Have any of you come across a citation for the above?
>JoAnne
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 17:36:51 -0600
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From:         Dorothy Dean <ddean@CSD4.CSD.UWM.EDU>
Subject:      crones

Ursula LeGuin has written some nice fiction about crones.  One story I
recall particularly is about who would make the best representative of
humanity to send into space.  A crone is what she proposes.  Nicely done
story.
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 19:14:23 EST
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From:         Gary Daily <HIDAILY@RUBY.INDSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Request for Info

You might take a look at Carol F. Karlsen, _The Devil in the Shape of
a Woman_ and John Demos, _Entertaining Satan_.
gary daily
Indiana State Univ.
hidaily@ruby.indstate.edu





> Kathleen just posted something else that stimulated the recesses
> of my brain: re:'the negative definition of crone as "a withered, witchl
> ike old woman"...linked..in eye of the male...implying "not (or no
> longer) fertile" and therefore superfluos to them?'
> Awhile back I was talking with a colleague who is a behavioral biologist
> who mentioned that 'witches' were usually women past their childbearing
> years, who were either widowed or not married who had property, skills,
> etc., and therefore did not need a male, and were,thus, threatening to
> males.  The way to remove these women of independent means was to
> accuse them of being witches, and either they died provingthey were
> not witches, or they died because they were (drowning, burning, hanging)
> Have any of you come across a citation for the above?
> JoAnne
>
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 19:19:25 EST
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From:         Jesse Lemisch <LEMJJ@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Womanism

Various nets have recently posted notice of a journal on "Womanism."
What is womanism? How is it like/unlike feminism?
                                          Jesse Lemisch
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 16:49:10 -0800
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From:         Elizabeth S Reis <LZREIS@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Request for Info

Regarding the request for information on accused witches and property: see
Carol Karlsen, __The Devil in the Shape of a Woman: Witchcraft in Colonial New
England__ (New York, 1987).  Karlsen argues that accused witches in New England
held substantial property or unusual economic power (because they didn't have
fathers, brothers, or sons) and thus challenged the traditional notions of
women's place.  It's a great book and works very well in the classroom.
Lizzie Reis, Dept. of History, University of Oregon
email: lzreis@oregon.uoregon.edu
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 20:04:28 -0400
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From:         Kamini Grahame <PGRAHAME@BENTLEY.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Black Women in Search of Themselves 1894-1994

This week's Chronicle of Higher Ed has some coverage of the MIT conference.
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 20:08:31 -0400
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From:         Kamini Grahame <PGRAHAME@BENTLEY.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: article search

The anthology Making Waves: An Anthology of Writings by and ABout Asian
American Women has a section on Activism. Published by Beacon Press, 1989.
Yes I do realize that it's a little older than you might want.
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 19:17:08 EST
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From:         Michelle Segar <Michelle.Segar@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU>
Subject:      help!

Please take me off your list.  It was an error
that I joined. I really need to sign off.
If you have any questions please call me
at 313-764-2767.  Thank you very much.
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 21:22:23 -0800
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From:         Margaret Hobart <mhobart@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: research on violent children
In-Reply-To:  <9401241903.AA01652@walker.u.washington.edu>

what is interesting to me about this discourse about career women being
to blame for violent children/boys is the way in which race is so
present and yet so unmarked.  We must contrast this with the equally
vehement arguments that "welfare mothers" (in the cultural imagination,
young black women) must go to _work_.  As Patricia Hill Collins argues, a
lively discourse exists blaming welfare mothers for the problems of the
inner city, including crime and violence.  Apparently women of color
staying home to be with their children constitute a bad influence, while
career women (read: white women) going to work destroy their children's
lives. hmmmm.

Margaret Hobart
mhobart@carson.u.washington.edu
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 1994 21:40:44 -0800
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From:         Margaret Hobart <mhobart@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      race, gender and battering
In-Reply-To:  <9401241903.AA01598@walker.u.washington.edu>

I am pursuing a couple of questions regarding woman battering and would
appreciate feedback and resources.  I would be happy to converse with
anyone who has similar interests:

-I am looking for feminist works and or theory which would help me
explore the ways in which constructions of battering,
, violence, and "victim" hold unmarked assumptions re: race
and sexuality as well as gender.  I am particularly (but not exclusively)
interested in how these understandings operate in the  criminal justice
system.

-I am also interested in feminist theory re battering.  Catherine
MacKinnon poses the argument that in this Patriarchal culture, rape is
sex, and women are defined primarily by their vulnerability to being
raped.  Is there a similar theory re battering?  ie, if sex is rape, is
marriage (or being in a relationship) enslavement? or abuse?  If there is
not a clear parallel argument, why not?  Some theorists have discussed
the history of the marriage liscence in relationship to property
concerns, but is anyone familiar with work that takes this idea further?

Please respond privately,

Margaret Hobart

mhobart@carson.u.washington.edu
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 13:38:32 +0200
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From:         Eileen Boris <boris@CC.HELSINKI.FI>
Subject:      Re: research on violent children
In-Reply-To:  <199401250531.HAA16223@kruuna.Helsinki.FI> from "Margaret Hobart"
              at Jan 24, 94 09:22:23 pm

Margaret Hobert makes an important point in reminding us of Patricia
Hill Collins observation.  As Nancy Fraser and Linda Gordon point out in
their fine article in the latest signs on "Dependency", the dependency
of poor women on welfare is bad, but that of other women on husbands was
good.  Now in the 1990s this is shifting in some quarters with the
acceptance or recognition of the wage earning of married women but the
continual degradation of solo mothers on welfare who are paid to stay
home while other women must leave the home for wage earning--it appears
that we have some contradictory discourses even about married women
working outside of the home in jobs that perhaps in the case of
so-called career women challenge male hierarchies. . .

Eileen.Boris
Howard Univ.|
1993-94 at Renvall Institute, Univ. of Helsinki
Finland
Eileen.Boris@Helsinki.Fi
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 09:23:37 EST
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From:         STRETCH OR DROWN/ EVOLVE OR DIE <finkel@KENYON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Request for Info

Two sources might be helpful. Zillah Eisenstein did some stuff on the
right-wing agenda in an article that appeared in Signs in the early 80s. I
don't have the exact reference in front of me.  Also see Susan Faludi's
Backlash which has a fair amount on women of the new right.

Laurie Finke
finkel@kenyon.edu
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 09:00:16 CST
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From:         Barbara Bixby <bixbybarbara%faculty%Carthage@CNS.CARTHAGE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Sandra Harding's address

I am trying to reach Prof. Harding for a speaking engagement in the fall-does
anyone have an office number/address where she can be reached. Many thanks.

Barbara Bixby
Chair
Dept. of Political Science
Carthage College
Kenosha, WI
53140

brb@cns.carthage.edu
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 08:59:18 -0600
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From:         JOSEPHME@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU
Organization: SAINT LOUIS UNIVERSITY  St. Louis, MO
Subject:      Query for Librarians re:1994 NWSA Meeting

I'm in the process of requesting travel funds from my library director for
professional development and I'm planning to request support for attendance
at the 1994 NWSA meeting in Iowa City since I'm the liaison librarian for
Women's Studies.  Since this isn't a library-type meeting, I think my cause
would be helped if I could say that other women's studies librarians plan to
attend.  So, if you're an academic librarian with WST duties and think you
may attend NWSA, I'd appreciate hearing from you.  Please reply PRIVATELY
and let me know if you mind if I share your name with any others who may also
be interested.  I'll reply privately to anyone I hear from.  Thanks.

Miriam Joseph
Pius XII Memorial Library
Saint Louis University
Josephme@sluvca.slu.edu
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 09:55:20 CST
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From:         "Pauline B. Bart" <U17334@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Judy Chicago

Judy Chicago's Holocaust show is currently in Chicago at the Spertus
Museum till the end of January.  "Our" public radio critic let loose
with kla misgynist blast at her calling her man hating and homophobic,
soo kshe reallymust say something here as she has in her other shows.
You can call Spertus Museum in CHiago for other information or contact
Pat Murphy at the Center for theStudyoof WOmen and Gender at the Univ of
Illinois, kChicago lwhoi knows udy and how to reach her. Judy elicits as
lmuch rage as Kitty MacKinnon does.
Pauline B. Bart
U17334@UICVM.UIC.EDU (University of Illinois at Chicago)
Everything is data, but data isn't everything...
Don't kill the messenger!
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 11:11:33 -0500
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From:         Harrison-Pepper Sally <harrison-pepper_sally@MSMAIL.MUOHIO.EDU>
Subject:      Poetry re Mother/Daughter

A colleague in dance is looking for a poem or perhaps a section of a short
story that deals with a Mother/Daughter relationship, or even a
Grandmother/Granddaughter relationship, to which she can stage a dance.  She
would especially like material that is, as she put it, "tempestuous."   This
list was very helpful the last time I put out such a request for her (that
time for an eco-feminist poem), and I am hopeful that we'll be able to help
her again.

Thank you and please reply privately to:

Sally Harrison-Pepper, School of Interdisciplinary Studies
Miami University, Oxford OH       fax:  513-529-5849
e:    Harrison-Pepper_Sally@msmail.muohio.edu
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 12:00:39 -0500
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From:         "Nancy Garner, History, Wright State. Univ.,
              Dayton" <NGARNER@WSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Request for Info

On Jan. 24th, JoAnn Myers wrote:
>Awhile back I was talking with a colleague who is a behavioral biologist
>who mentioned that 'witches' were usually women past their childbearing
>years, who were either widowed or not married who had property, skills,
>etc., and therefore did not need a male, and were, thus, threatening to
>males.  The way to remove these women of independent means was to
>accuse them of being witches, and either they died proving they were
>not witches, or they died because they were (drowning, burning, hanging)
>Have any of you come across a citation for the above?

a good citation for this interpretation is Carol F. Karlsen, The Devil
in the Shape of a Woman:  Witchcraft in Colonial New England.  New York:
Norton, 1987.
Nancy Garner
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 10:57:47 -0600
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From:         Karen Baird <POLS1JH@UHUPVM1.UH.EDU>
Subject:      gender/pub. policy

Someone recently asked for studies re: gender and public policy, and
specifically on implementation. (I erased the message or I would have
sent this privately.)  I came across a reference to _Women and Men of
the States. Public Administration at the State Level._  Ed. by Mary
 Guy, 1992. It might be useful.   Karen Baird  POLS1JH@UHUPVM1.UH.edu
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From:         "Giavanna J. Munafo" <gjm9u@DARWIN.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      NWSA Conference

Not long ago the NWSA office posted an announcement re: their email
address and how to reach them during an interim period. I'd like
information about contacting them to request conference information and
renew my membership, if anyone has it.
Thanks--
Giavanna Munafo
gjm9u@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 11:30:49 -0500
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From:         "Barbara J. Peters" <PETERS@OSHKOSHW.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: research on violent children

Date sent:  25-JAN-1994 11:04:18
>what is interesting to me about this discourse about career women being
>to blame for violent children/boys is the way in which race is so
>present and yet so unmarked.  We must contrast this with the equally
>vehement arguments that "welfare mothers" (in the cultural imagination,
>young black women) must go to _work_.  As Patricia Hill Collins argues, a
>lively discourse exists blaming welfare mothers for the problems of the
>inner city, including crime and violence.  Apparently women of color
>staying home to be with their children constitute a bad influence, while
>career women (read: white women) going to work destroy their children's
>lives. hmmmm.
>
>Margaret Hobart
>mhobart@carson.u.washington.edu

In the heart of white bread America the anti-welfare sentiment is so strong
it is palpable.  Career women are a threat because they upset the power
boat.  Welfare women (here in the McCarthy valley they are mainly white)
are great scapegoats because they are powerless and by virtue of being
alone and mothers, it means they were sexually active.  It doesn't matter
whether they were sexual in a marriage.  It does also not matter that for
every welfare mother, there is a father somewhere not bearing the brunt of
any public outrage. It is very frustrating.
We even have a man in McCarthy's hometown who is petitioning to do away
with welfare altogether.  If you have children, you take care of them.
Never mind what happens to the children.  This is also the land where a
state legislator just proposed to publish the names of parents of juvenile
delinquents in the newspaper.  He has since recanted.
        Teaching about this in classes elicits strong reaction and
response.  I put the students through a budget exercise in which they have
to pay for the needs of their "families" including child care.  They never
have enough money left to pay for child care.  Then, they begin to
understand.  Some one (so far it's always been a man) always asks... "Well,
then, why do they have children?"  Aargh!
BARBARA PETERS            University of Wisconsin Oshkosh
                          Dept. of Sociology
                          Oshkosh, Wisconsin 54901
                          (414) 424-0848
Bitnet Address            peters@oshkoshw.bitnet
Internet Address          peters@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 13:25:12 -0500
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From:         "Diana H. Scully" <dscully@CABELL.VCU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: NWSA's new address & phone #'s
In-Reply-To:  <01H7LF76B6DE99DQAO@Gems.VCU.EDU>; from "ly15" at Jan 12,
              94 12:11 pm

>
> NWSA moved in September, 1993.  New address: 7100 Baltimore Ave., Suite 301,
> College Park, MD 20740.  New Phone #'s: 301-403-0424 or 403-0525.  We are
> still part of the Univ. of MD.  Loretta Younger, Office Manager
>
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 14:05:16 -0500
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From:         "Deborah A. Curry, University at Albany" <HAROBED@ALBNYVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      THE WOMANIST

From:   ALBANY::HAROBED      "Deborah A. Curry, University at Albany" 20-JAN-199
   4 15:18:00.17
To:     AFAS IN%"AFAM-L@MIZZOU1.BITNET"
CC:     HAROBED
Subj:   THE WOMANIST


   I have been asked by Layli Phillips to disseminate this information
on appropriate listservs.  If you need more information, please contact
her directly.     deborah
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   THE WOMANIST: A NEWSLETTER FOR AFROCENTRIC FEMINIST RESEARCHERS

    Statement of purpose: _The Womanist_ is meant to be a gathering place for
Afrocentric feminist researchers who are struggling to devise, develop, and
disseminate womanist methodologies within traditional (or non-traditional)
academic disciplines.  Many of us find ourselves working alone in situations
where womanist perspectives are considered foreign or even unaccceptable, and
many of us are not aware of other womanist researchers we can turn to for
information and corroboration.  _The Womanist_ is meant to be a place where
we can share ideas, ask questions, and engage in supportive criticism, in
order to strengthen our mission, de-marginalize our activities, and provide
wider access to our perspectives.

                THE WOMANIST
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                Institute for African American Studies
                University of Georgia
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 11:38:26 PST
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From:         Dawn Atkins <spirit@ARMORY.COM>
Subject:      Re: Request for Info

The is a book , "The Crone: Woman of Age, Wisdome and Power" by Barbara
G. Walker (Harper & Row, 1985).  I haven't read it yet, but it looks
really interesting.  My mother enjoyed it quite a bit.

Dawn Atkisn
BITF
spirit@armory.com
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 13:39:57 -0600
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From:         blake debra j <djblake@UMAXC.WEEG.UIOWA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: race, gender and battering
In-Reply-To:  <199401250620.BAA16990@umd5.umd.edu>

    I'm interested in some of the same issues regarding race,
sexuality and violence, however I'm just at the beginning of my research
too. I would appreciate knowing what you come across. thanks
Debbie Blake  djblake@umaxc.uiowa.edu

On Mon, 24 Jan 1994, Margaret Hobart wrote:

> I am pursuing a couple of questions regarding woman battering and would
> appreciate feedback and resources.  I would be happy to converse with
> anyone who has similar interests:
>
> -I am looking for feminist works and or theory which would help me
> explore the ways in which constructions of battering,
> , violence, and "victim" hold unmarked assumptions re: race
> and sexuality as well as gender.  I am particularly (but not exclusively)
> interested in how these understandings operate in the  criminal justice
> system.
>
> -I am also interested in feminist theory re battering.  Catherine
> MacKinnon poses the argument that in this Patriarchal culture, rape is
> sex, and women are defined primarily by their vulnerability to being
> raped.  Is there a similar theory re battering?  ie, if sex is rape, is
> marriage (or being in a relationship) enslavement? or abuse?  If there is
> not a clear parallel argument, why not?  Some theorists have discussed
> the history of the marriage liscence in relationship to property
> concerns, but is anyone familiar with work that takes this idea further?
>
> Please respond privately,
>
> Margaret Hobart
>
> mhobart@carson.u.washington.edu
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 11:57:39 PST
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From:         Dawn Atkins <spirit@ARMORY.COM>
Subject:      Re: Request for Info

Yes, I have several references on crones and the burning times.  I study
as much as I can find on the subject and have yet to see a feminist
analysis of the witch burnings that didn't bring up this point.
Older women are dangerous to patriarchy, they have the time, energy
and often the experience to become leaders among women in their communities,
many were herbalists and midwives, so as such were a target of the
Christian churches and the new male medical establishment.

Chapters on this are included in the following books:

Gyn/Ecology by Mary Daly
    Beacon Press, 1978
The Great Cosmic Mother by Monica Sjoo & Barbara Mor
    Harper & Row, 1987
Dreaming the Dark by Starhawk
    Beacon Press, 1982
The Gospel According to Woman by Karen Armstrong
    Anchor Press, 1987
The Devil in the Shape of a Woman by Carol F. Karlsen
    ww Norton, 1987
Femicide by Jill Radcliff & Diana E.H. Russell
    Twayne Publishers, 1992

Each as a chapter devoted to the "
Sorry, screen messed up.

...devoted to the "witch-craze."  Anyone wanted more information is welcome
to call or e-mail me directly.

Dawn Atkins
Body Image Task Force
P.O. Box 934
Santa Cruz, CA  95061-0934
(408) 426-1821
spirit@armory.com

Oh, it is my opinion that much of the distain for older women and portrayal
of them as ugly and dangerous is direc tly linked to this period in history.
We not only continue to live with the legacy, we pass is on thru many
f ^?orms, but especially thru our fairy tales.
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From:         Caroline Brettell <cbrettel@SUN.CIS.SMU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Mother/Daughter Relationships
In-Reply-To:  <199401251953.OAA22302@umd5.umd.edu>

I would be interested in poems about mother/daughter relationships too so
post them to the general mailing or would the person who is receiving them
please post a list at the end. On the same subject, I am thinking about a
course on mothers and daughters and would be interested in suggestions for
course materials--works of literature, but also historical and social
scientific analyses that focus on the relationship (positive and
negative). I have the impression that this relationship is much
maligned--it is a source of problems. Is this the case? Cross-cultural and
multicultural material must also be included.

Thank you to everyone for their help. If you reply privately I will post a
list at the end.

Caroline Brettell, Southern Methodist University
cbrettel@sun.cis.smu.edu
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 15:14:05 EST
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From:         Jennifer Hammer <HAMMERJ@ELMER1.BOBST.NYU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Mother/Daughter Relationships

For the person thinking about a course on mothers and daughters, you
may be interested in THE ANCHOR OF MY LIFE: MIDDLE CLASS AMERICAN
MOTHERS AND DAUGHTERS, 1880-1920, by Linda W. Rosenzweig.  This book
is published by NYU Press, and is part of our History of the
Emotions series.  This book specifically addresses your question
about the nature of this relationship, challenging the late-
twentieth century assumption that the mother-daughter relationship is
necessarily defined by hostility, guilt, and antagonism.

If you'd like more information, please contact our offices at NYU
Press, 70 Washington Square South, NY, NY 10012 (phone: 212-998-
2575/fax: 212-995-3833), or e-mail me at the address below.  I hope
you find this information helpful.

With best wishes,

Jennifer Hammer
Assistant Editor
New York University Press
HammerJ@elmer1.bobst.nyu.edu


>I would be interested in poems about mother/daughter relationships
too so post them to the general mailing or would the person who is receiving
 them
please post a list at the end. On the same subject, I am thinking about a
course on mothers and daughters and would be interested in suggestions for
course materials--works of literature, but also historical and social
scientific analyses that focus on the relationship (positive and
negative). I have the impression that this relationship is much
maligned--it is a source of problems. Is this the case? Cross-cultural and
multicultural material must also be included.

Thank you to everyone for their help. If you reply privately I will post a
list at the end.

Caroline Brettell, Southern Methodist University
cbrettel@sun.cis.smu.edu
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 15:25:49 EST
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From:         Kathe Davis <KDAVIS@KENTVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Poetry re Mother/Daughter
In-Reply-To:  Message of Tue,
              25 Jan 1994 11:11:33 -0500 from
              <harrison-pepper_sally@MSMAIL.MUOHIO.EDU>

For a poem to dance to, I recommend "SHE" by Catherine Davis (no relation),
in earlier editions of Mary Anne Ferguson's IMAGES OF WOMEN.  It is in any
case a great presentation of a beloved "bad" mother.  k.d.
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From:         SUE MANSFIELD <SMANSFIELD@BENSON.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: NWSA Conference

The NWSA national office is still off e-mail.  You can call
Loretta Younger, the national office manager, at 301-403-0524,
however.
Sue Mansfield
SMANSFIELD@BENSON.CLAREMONT.EDU
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 14:12:48 MST
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From:         Boris DeWiel <borisdew@ACS.UCALGARY.CA>
Subject:      Jean Bethke Elshtain
In-Reply-To:  <199401252036.PAA28705@umd5.umd.edu>; from "Dawn Atkins" at Jan
              25, 94 11:38 am

I've just read Jean Bethke Elshtain's *Democracy on Trial*, the
transcript of her Massey lectures broadcast on CBC radio (up here
in Canada, eh). I was surprised by her perspective, which seemed
liberal in the classical sense. Is she considered an apostate
from academic feminism? Are her books considered suitable for
WMST classrooms?

Boris DeWiel
borisdew@acs.ucalgary.ca
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From:         Eileen Boris <boris@CC.HELSINKI.FI>
Subject:      Re: research on violent children
In-Reply-To:  <199401251821.UAA06488@kruuna.Helsinki.FI> from "Barbara J.
              Peters" at Jan 25, 94 11:30:49 am

Margaret Hobart's comments interested me as well as others who have
replied to her on the list.  Patricia Hill Collins makes an important
point that illuminates the ways that racialized gender informs public
policy even when silent.  For another superb analysis of the shifting
meanings of dependency--how women on welfare are dependent because they
are not going out and getting a job like married women with children
increasingly are (how the rising labor force participation of married
mothers is shifting the discourse on women's wage earning and further
denigrating women's mother work), see Nancy Fraser and Linda Gordon, "A
Genealogy of Dependency: Tracing a Keyword of the U.S. Welfare State,"
SIGNS, 19 (Winter 1994): 309-36.  Perhaps the trend towards accepting
mothers necessary wage labor assumes that women are laboring in women's
jobs and so "career" women--higher status employees presumingly--appear
invaders into men's work and aspirations and thus dangerous in ways that
women with just a job are not. Has anyone done empirical work on greater
acceptance of wage earning mothers?  Is there a shift in the discussion
of the "work and family dilemma" that so haunted the 1980s?  In Finland
where I am this academic year, over 70% of women are in the paid labor
force, almost all in full time labor. Cutbacks in social provision are
threatening the services, though, that women depend on: child and elder
care, school lunches, health care availabililty in hours, etc. (This is
not to idealize a system where occupational segmentation by sex reigns
and where the social partners in the welfare state--labor and
capital--are dominated by men.)

Eileen Boris
Howard University but at Univ. of Helsinki for 93-94
Eileen.Boris@Helsinki.Fi
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 17:50:00 EDT
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From:         Joan Korenman <KORENMAN@UMBC.BITNET>
Subject:      Hints for Reducing Mail Volume

        Hi.  Mail volume on WMST-L seems to be increasing.  If WMST-L is to
continue to serve as a useful professional tool, the mail volume cannot be
permitted to get out of hand.  Thus, I'd like to offer a few suggestions
for sending messages:

        1)  Read through ALL your messages before you reply, especially if
you're replying to the list.  You may find that someone else has already
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 15:51:59 -0700
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From:         "Ruth Dickstein,
              University of Arizona Main Library" <DICKSTEI@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU>
Subject:      "Step" salaray systems

I have been asked to post the query.
We at the University of Arizona Association for Women Faculty are being
asked to endorse a salary "step" system that our Provost Paul Sypher used
at UC Irvine. He feels that it is more equitable towards women than our
current merit system. Calfornia faculty women, what do you think? We are
meeting with the Provost Feb. 7 and need some information before our
meeting with him.
Please respond to Maureen Kelly    mekelly@ccit.arizona.edu
Thank you
Ruth Dickstein
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 16:07:43 -0800
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From:         Jacquelyn Marie <jmarie@SCILIBX.UCSC.EDU>
Subject:      Women's seminar in the Crimea

There will be an international grassroots Women's Seminar, "Women's
Rights in the Home and in the World" from April 20-25, 1994 in Alushta,
the Crimea, Ukraine.  This will also be a sub regional meeting toward the
UN World Conf. on Women in Beijing, China in Sept 1995.  For more
information, write Sister to Sister Network, PO Box 1710 Carmel Valley,
Cal. 93924 USA or Hope Center for the Defense of Women's Rights, 18,
Vinogradnaya Str., Apt 12, Alushta 334270, Crimea, Ukraine.  FAX 0656034790
Local phone number is 408/475-2879 in California.

Incidentally I was at the first conference in Alushta and found it very
interesting, Alushta beautiful and the women full of energy and ready for
feminism.  Jacquelyn Marie, McHenry Library, Un. of Cal, Santa Cruz 95064
jmarie@scilibx.ucsc.edu
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 20:00:59 -0600
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From:         Jane I Olmsted-1 <olmst001@MAROON.TC.UMN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Mother/Daughter Relationships
In-Reply-To:  <01H840IUZYASDF7OZA@VX.CIS.UMN.EDU>

Has anyone mentioned Susan Koppelman Cornillon's collection of short
stories, Mothers and Daughters?  She's the editor, and the stories are all
by women.

Jane Olmsted
University of Minnesota
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 21:31:21 +0500
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From:         "Keri L. Ellis" <clellis@MTU.EDU>
Subject:      Paula Giddings

I am currently reading Paula Giddings's book _When and Where I Enter:  The
Impact of Black Women on Race and Sex in America_ (I think that's the
title, I don't have the book with me).  I haven't gotten very far yet, so
before I continue, I'd like to know if anyone on the list has any opinions
of this book or any suggestions for other reading in African-American
women's history.  Please respond privately to clellis@mtu.edu.  Thanks in
advance!


Keri Ellis (clellis@mtu.edu)

"La colere peut etre folle et absurde; on peut etre irrite a tort; on n'est
indigne que lorsqu'on a raison au fond par quelque cote."--Victor Hugo
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 21:31:19 CST
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From:         Felicia Bender <C391738@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Womanism
In-Reply-To:  Message of Mon, 24 Jan 1994 19:19:25 EST from <LEMJJ@CUNYVM>

It is my impression that womanism is a term associated primarily with Alice
Walker.  She has written a short paragraph defining womanism (womanism is to
feminism as lavendar is to purple)...the main difference between womanism and
feminism, as I understand it, is of course its focus on Black women.  But it
parts also in that it is non-seperatist (except occasionally,"for health") and
includes men in a very basic way--men being instrumental in a womanist
ideology as the locus of Black survival working with Black women for the
struggle for the the Black family to survive.  This is, needless to say, a
"reader's digest condensed version" of womanism.  Other facets of womanism in-
clude Clenora hudson-Weems' _Africana Womanism_, of which I regret I know
little about at the moment.
                             Felicia Bender c391738@MIZZOU1
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 20:35:51 -0800
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From:         Margaret Hobart <mhobart@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Mother/Daughter Relationships
In-Reply-To:  <9401252022.AA17603@tolstoy.u.washington.edu>

Another take  on Mother Daughter relationships is a book called _Loss of
the Groundnote: women writing about the loss of their mothers_  edited by
Helen Vozenilek.  these are narratives, not scholarly pieces, but they do
illuminate some of the tensions and feelings and potentials in the
relationship.
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 00:52:50 -0500
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From:         Kathleen Barker <barker@LEVY.BARD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: research on violent children
In-Reply-To:  <199401251147.GAA27104@umd5.umd.edu>

In response to Hobart and Boris: 1) I think it is really interesting that
just at the point that jobs are being created that are less and less
stable, we find an opposition to welfare.  Indeed, it is welfare that
supports corporate notions of motherhood-dependency and contingent jobs.

2) That argument is rather far afield from the ideological persistence of
the right-wing and their churches (sorry for any offence, but perhaps it
is an insensitivity which encourages rather than discourages discourse)
which castmo mothers, not fathers, in the primary care-taking role -- so
moms are responsible, etc.  I strongly recommend reading L.B. Silverstein:
"Transforming the debate about child care and maternal employment" in the
American Psychologist, #46, 1025-1032.  She got alot of flack for this
article, but to me, and my students, she appropriates the traditional
arguments about women's work in the home and negates current paradigms and
suggests new ones.  Most useful about this article: she takes apart
retrograde child-working mom research.  Read this article.

*********************************************************************
* Kathleen Barker                            *
* Internet: barker@levy.bard.edu                            *
* Bard College                                        *
* Work: (914) 758-6822 X 225                        *
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 1994 22:55:48 -0800
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From:         Ellen Cronan Rose <ecrose@NEVADA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Mother/Daughter Relationships
In-Reply-To:  Your message of Tue,
              25 Jan 94 13:57:48 -0600.
              <199401260159.RAA26406@post-office.nevada.edu>

I suggest you get in touch with Elaine Hansen at Haverford
College, who is writing a book about mothering in contemporary
women's fiction, using African-American, Native American, and
lesbian texts, among other more expectable, and couching her
study in feminist mothering theory.  You can reach her on the
net at ehansen@haverford.edu.  And you can mention my name as
entree.

Best wishes, Ellen Rose
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 08:30:06 EST
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From:         Kathy Feltey <R1KMF@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Mother/Daughter Relationships
In-Reply-To:  Message of Tue,
              25 Jan 1994 13:57:48 -0600 from <cbrettel@SUN.CIS.SMU.EDU>

There's a wonderful book of poetry by an Irish lesbian feminist writer (her
name escapes me at this moment) called "Moving Into the Space Cleared by
Our Mothers."  Many of the poems are about her relationship with her mother
at different points in their relationship.  Kathy Feltey (R1KMF@AKRONVM)
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From:         "Giavanna J. Munafo" <gjm9u@DARWIN.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      mother/daughter

Sorry to send this to the list, but I've deleted all the previous messages
already. Try looking at Adrienne Rich's _Of Woman Born_, a text that I
used to use in my composition classes (excerpts) to get a rise out of
students who'd never considered how a mother might experience childbirth
and parenting as both a joy and a nightmare. Rich, as always, is
excruciatingly direct and compelling.
Giavanna Munafo
gjm9u@darwin.clas.virginia.eduu
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 08:07:52 -0600
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From:         Kate Kelly <KEK941A@VENUS.TAMU.EDU>
Subject:      Mysteries by Women of Color

Dear WMST Readers:  Thanks to all from this list and from DOROTHYL who
contributed suggestions for contemporary mysteries by women of color and
lesbians.  The list is evolving, but I am becoming too busy to research
it properly.  Therefore, I've decided simply to post what I have recev'd
without full information:

Nikki Baker IN THE GAME (lesbian mystery; of color??)
Eleanor Taylor Bland, DEAD TIME, SLOW BURN (Afroam, I think)
Lucha Corpi, DELIA'S SONG, Arte Publico Press, Houston (Chicana
  detetctive?)
Linda Hogan, MEAN SPIRIT (Chickasaw Indian)  often sold in bkstores
  as a mystery, but apparently not entirely conventional
Dolores Komo (titles?  racial identity?)
Mercedes Lambert, DOGTOWN (white lawyer works with Chicana pros-
  titute to solve cases)
Barbara Neely, BLANCHE ON THE LAM (wins the "most posted" award)
  (and it received several awards); she has written another novel
  as well.  Afroam.

Susan Moody, the "Penny Series."  Apparently Moody herself is white
  but has created a detective of color.  Some readers don't care much
  for this series.  British.

This is all for now.  Will keep you posted.  Kate E. Kelly KEK941A@
VENUS.TAMU.EDU
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 09:37:11 -0500
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From:         "Robyn R. Warhol" <rwarhol@MOOSE.UVM.EDU>
Subject:      feminist theory anthologies

Of the many interdisciplinary anthologies of feminist theory now
available, which are the best ones to use in womens' studies courses (I
mean classes that are not cross-listed with another department or
discipline)?  I am interested in hearing from instructors who have taught
such courses at introductory and/or senior levels.

Thanks for replying to:
Robyn Warhol
rwarhol@moose.uvm.edu
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 09:57:38 EST
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From:         Marjanne Gooze' <MGOOZE@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: feminist theory anthologies
In-Reply-To:  Message of Wed,
              26 Jan 1994 09:37:11 -0500 from <rwarhol@MOOSE.UVM.EDU>

Although there are many fine anthologies, none seem complete to me and we in Wo
men's Studies are always supplementing the ones we use with other texts and xer
oxed text pakets.  We have found it necessary to do this for inclusivity: women
 of color, lesbians, women and aging.  For the past several years we have used,
 Richardson & Taylor Feminist Frontiers (II now III), sometimes with Johnetta
Cole's All American Women.  This is for the Intro. course.  For the senior, gra
udate level course in Theory, I and several others have used: Jagger and Rothen
berg, Feminist Frameworks (new edition), Tong's Feminist Thought, Collins' Blac
k Feminist Thought, and a reading packet since one of these really include psyc
holanalytic or postmodern (Cornell, Butler, etc.) feminisms.  I would like to h
ear what others are using.

Marjanne E. Gooze'
Dept. of Germanic and Slavic Langs.
University of Georgia
Athens, GA 30602
Telephone: Office: (706) 542-2450; Home: (706) 549-2831
E-Mail: MGOOZE@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 10:25:00 CDT
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From:         Phyllis Holman Weisbard <PWEIS@MACC.WISC.EDU>
Subject:      mothers and daughters

There are two bibliographies that are very useful in reviewing the literature
and fiction on mothers and daughters:

MOTHERS & MOTHERING: AN ANNOTATED FEMINIST BIBLIOGRAPHY, by Penelope Dixon
(Garland Pub., 1991) covers the research on the mother-daughter relationship
especially in chapter 2:  "Mothers and Daughters: Together and Apart."
There are also chapters on "Lesbian and Black Mothers, Daughters and Sons:
Additional Burdens," "Mothers and Sons," "Feminism: A Framework for Mothering,"
and "Psychoanalysis: A Feminist Tool."

For a thematically arranged guide to mothers and daughters in short fiction,
see

MOTHERS AND DAUGHTERS IN AMERICAN SHORT FICTION: AN ANNOTATED BIBLIOGRAPHY OF
TWENTIETH-CENTURY WOMEN'S LITERATURE, compiled by Susanne Carter. (Greenwood P.,
1993.) 242 stories are covered, divided into seven thematic chapters: abuse and
neglect, aging, alienation, death, expectations, nurturance, and portraits. A
critical summary is provided for each story.
*****************





    Phyllis Holman Weisbard                (608) 263-5754
    Acting Women's Studies Librarian       pweis@wiscmacc (Bitnet)
    University of Wisconsin System         pweis@macc.wisc.edu (Internet)
    Room 430 Memorial Library
    728 State Street
    Madison, WI 53706
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 08:24:19 PST
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From:         Theresa <60840883@WSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Womanism
In-Reply-To:  Message of Mon, 24 Jan 1994 19:19:25 EST from <LEMJJ@CUNYVM>

Re:"womanism" you should see Alice Walker's book, _In Search of Our Mothers' Ga
rdens_ which begins with a definition of womanism.  I can't quote it exactly, b
ut that is, I believe, the first reference to it, and the difference, I believe
, is that womanism is more inclusive of all women than feminism is perceived to
be.  Theresa
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 11:54:13 -0500
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From:         Leslie Regan Shade <shade@ICE.CC.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      GENDER and COMMUNITY

I'm quickly looking for sources re gender and community, and/or gender
and the civic arena, or even of social theorists who have dealt with the
notion of community (and deserve some critical feminist analysis!)   I'm
pretty vague with what I'm designating as "community"--what I've
collected so far spans sociological to geographical treatments.  Any
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Here's what I've come up with
so far. Please email me privately and I'll compile a list of collected
sources later for posting on WMST.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

Leslie Shade
McGill University
Graduate Program in Communications
[shade@ice.cc.mcgill.ca]


Bellah, Robert N., et.al.  The Good Society.  NY: Vintage Books, 1992.
Bellah, Robert N., et.al.  Habits of the Heart: individualism and
commitment in American life.  Berkeley: University of California Press, 1985.

Benhabib, Seyla.  Situating the self: gender, community and postmodernism
in contemporary ethics.  Oxfiord: Polity Press, 1992/Routledge, 1993.

Boulding, Elise. Building a Global Civic Culture: education for an
interdependent world.  NY: Teacher's College Press/Columbia University, 1988.

Frazer, Elizabeth; Nicola Lacey.  The Politics of Community: a feminist
critique of the liberal-communitarian debate.  Toronto: University of
Toronto Press, 1993.

Rose, Gillian. Feminism and geography : the limits of geographical knowledge.
Minneapolis : University of Minnesota Press, 1993.

Young, Iris Marion.  "The ideal of community and the politics of
difference:, pp. 300-323 in Feminsim/Postmodernism, ed. Linds J.
Nicholson. Routledge: 1990.
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 12:15:12 -0500
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From:         Elizabeth Mazur <PSYMAZUR@ACS.EKU.EDU>
Subject:      Mother/daughter relationships

I strongly recommend the book Double Stitch, a collection of essays,
poems, and stories by Black women, all about mothers and daughters.
(1991, Beacon Press).  It should be in soft cover now.

Elizabeth Mazur
psymazur@acs.eku.edu
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 09:21:33 -0800
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From:         Ann Weinstone <syd@IGC.APC.ORG>
Subject:      African-American Studies LIst

A student of mine would like to subscribe to the African-American
studies list. If anyone has the address, please send it to me
privately. Thank you.
Ann Weinstone
Mills College
syd@igc.apc.org
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 13:00:41 EST
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From:         Jeri Carter <jcarter@JAMES.PSYCH.RUNET.EDU>
Subject:      Request for info, Middle-East

A graduate student here at Radford is doing her thesis research on U.S.
corporate women working in the middle east, looking at cultural issues,
barriers (or lack of) to their ability to represent their companies, work
with middle-eastern colleagues, provide supervision and leadership, etc.
She and I would appreciate any references, resources, and suggestions you
might have.  We are familiar with Nancy Adler's work.  Please respond
privately.
Jeri Carter
Radford University
jcarter@james.psych.runet.edu
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 13:17:33 +119304128
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From:         Susan Smith <scsmith@POLAR.BOWDOIN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: violent boys
In-Reply-To:  <no.id> from "Barbara J. Peters" at Jan 25, 94 11:30:49 am

Miedzian (Boys Will Be Boys) states that, " the single factor most highly
linked to empathetic concern (of boys) is the level of paternal
involvement in child care."
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 14:14:28 EST
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From:         VALERIE WAGONER <v.wagone@MSUACAD.MOREHEAD-ST.EDU>
Subject:      Re: info on witches and crones
In-Reply-To:  <199401260514.AAA16567@umd5.umd.edu>; from "Automatic digest
              processor" at Jan 26, 94 12:00 (midnight)

Hi all,

Information regarding crones and women healers being labeled as witches
can also be found in Ehrenriech and English's book "For Her Own Good".
I believe Thomas Szaz touches on it in "The Manufacture of Madness" also.

I don't have ready access to these books, so I don't have the dates or
citations handy. If JoAnn or anyone else would like more specifics, I'll
ferret the info out for you.

See ya,
Valerie
v.wagone@msuacad.morehead.st.edu

P. S. I have also read "The Crone..." Excellent book!
>
> Date:    Tue, 25 Jan 1994 12:00:39 -0500
> From:    "Nancy Garner, History, Wright State. Univ.,
>          Dayton" <NGARNER@WSU.BITNET>
> Subject: Re: Request for Info
>
> On Jan. 24th, JoAnn Myers wrote:
> >Awhile back I was talking with a colleague who is a behavioral biologist
> >who mentioned that 'witches' were usually women past their childbearing
> >years, who were either widowed or not married who had property, skills,
> >etc., and therefore did not need a male, and were, thus, threatening to
> >males.  The way to remove these women of independent means was to
> >accuse them of being witches, and either they died proving they were
> >not witches, or they died because they were (drowning, burning, hanging)
> >Have any of you come across a citation for the above?
>
> a good citation for this interpretation is Carol F. Karlsen, The Devil
> in the Shape of a Woman:  Witchcraft in Colonial New England.  New York:
> Norton, 1987.
> Nancy Garner
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 14:47:20 EST
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From:         "Heather L. Alderman" <HA7570A@AMERICAN.EDU>
Organization: The American University
Subject:      No subject

tell listserv signoff wmst-l ha7570a@auvm.american.edu Heather Alderman
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 19:44:00 GMT0
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From:         Diane Bailey <dbailey@CIX.COMPULINK.CO.UK>
Subject:      Boston Women's Health Book Collective

Does anyone have a direct phone number for the Boston Women's Health
Book Collective, apart from 617-625 0271 which is only an answer tape
giving their helpline hours?

One of my colleagues has sent them four faxes over the past two weeks
and has received no response, so we're desperate for another way to
reach them.

We're about to make a documentary on sex selection, and we understand
they have issued a paper that is highly relevant, but we haven't seen
it.

Or does anyone have a copy of what they have issued on the subject.

We are feminist film makers.

Reply directly, rather than to the list, please.

Diane Bailey
dbailey@cix.compulink.co.uk
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 19:44:00 GMT0
Reply-To:     dbailey@cix.compulink.co.uk
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Diane Bailey <dbailey@CIX.COMPULINK.CO.UK>
Subject:      Sex Selection

Another angle on my other message, for those who read by Subject line.

We're about to make a documentary on sex selection, and we understand
the Boston Women's Health Book Collective have issued a paper that is
highly relevant, but we haven't seen it.  Since we're having great
difficulty contacting the Collective, does anyone here have a copy of
what they have issued on the subject?  Or recall other material
illustrative of Women's Movement attitudes to this issue.

We are feminist film makers.

Reply directly, rather than to the list, please.

Diane Bailey
dbailey@cix.compulink.co.uk
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Date:         Sun, 4 Oct 1992 04:01:54 LCL
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From:         Kirsch Vicki L <vlkirs@MAIL.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Feminist Theory Anthologies

    I have finally realized that anthologies are probably the "best
buy" in the book buying market these days -- and with a little push
from students I have shifted my Feminist Theory readings in that
direction -- This is our Women's Studies capstone course (405) and it
also attracts students majoring in other areas as well as graduate
and law students.  This semester, my syllabus includes:

THEORIZING BLACK FEMINISMS, ed. Stanlie M. James & Abena P.A. Busia
AMERICAN FEMINIST THOUGHT AT CENTURY'S END, ed. Linda S. Kauffman
MAKING FACE, MAKING SOUL/HACIENDO CARAS, ed. Gloria Anzaldua
FEMINIST LITERARY THEORY, ed. Mary Eagleton

We are also reading Rosemary Tong's FEMINIST THOUGHT, Betty Friedan's
THE FEMININE MYSTIQUE, Judith Roof's A LURE OF KNOWLEDGE: LESBIAN
SEXUALITY AND THEORY, Mary Daly's OUTERCOURSE and Helene Cixous &
Catherine Clement's THE NEWLY BORN WOMAN.

Needless to say, we will not be reading every essay in these books,
but the students will have an excellent collection of resources.  As
several of these books are new adoptions, I'm very excited to see how
the semester goes...

Vicki Kirsch
vlkirs@mail.wm.edu
College of William and Mary
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 15:16:01 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Katy Milligan <kmilli@CCAT.SAS.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Womanism
In-Reply-To:  <199401260541.AAA20133@umd5.umd.edu> from "Felicia Bender" at Jan
              25, 94 09:31:19 pm

According to Felicia Bender:
>  Alice Walker...has written a short paragraph defining womanism (womanism is
 to
> to feminism as lavendar is to purple)...
>

This is from the beginning of _In Search Of Our Mother's Garderns_.
Walker gives four definitions.  The fourth reads "Womanist is to
feminist as purple to lavender."

Katy Milligan
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 15:44:38 EST
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Ginny Daley <vld@MAIL.LIB.DUKE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: feminist theory anthologies

    FYI this is taken from a proposal for a new women's studies
   anthology that is in the works:

   On the occasion of the 10th Anniversary of the Duke Women's Studies
   Program, the Council on Women's Studies [at Duke] is undertaking a
   project to produce a new basic text for Women's Studies studients,
   both at Duke and across academia.  A HISTORY OF FEMINIST THOUGHT,
   edited by Eugenia DeLamotte and Jean O'Barr, is intended to meet
   the need for an international mulitcultural anthology that surveys
   what Gerda Lerner calls 'the creation of feminist consciousness'
   from Antiquity to the present.  It will fill gaps for feminist
   scholars who need broader historical contexts for their research,
   and for teachers who need a textbook that does not have to be
   supplemented with multicultural and international materials....
   The anthology is intended to break new ground in its scope,
   content, and methodology.  No other collection of historical
   feminist documents, for example, invites comparison of Chinese and
   Western feminism, or of Scandinavian, Indian, and American
   feminists in the twentieth century.  This will also be the first
   such collection to include documents in Russian feminist history,
   such as the writings of a medieval peasant and of Nadezhda Durova,
   a cross-dresser who fought in the War of 1812....Readings will be
   selected for their relevance to contemporary feminist inquiry about
   such issues as women and sexuality, motherhood, racism, knowledge,
   violence, militarism, lesbianism, and aging.

     the proposal goes on for several more paragraphs.  i don't
   anticipate that we will see the book in print before 1995.  if you
   are interested in more info about the project, you may e-mail me
   and i will send you a copy of the proposal or pass your questions
   on to the WS program.

   ginny daley
   vld@mail.lib.duke.edu
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 15:52:32 EST
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         judy long <JLONG@SUVM.BITNET>

Dear colleagues,
I just spent two stimulating days in Albany dealing with issues of women's heal
th, reproductive rights and related topics.  The only downer was when a US
Congressmember, in accepting the Margaret Sanger Award, drew an unflattering
comparison between herself and Sanger, portraying Sanger as a bad woman, bad
mother, etc.  She quoted from Halberstam's book on the fifties (!!).  I would
like to write her one of my loving, sisterly letters.  When I do, i would like
to suggest other sources on Sanger she (or her staff) could draw on.  Can you
suggest a list of feminist biographies  and/or other research on Sanger?
Many thanx for  this help.
 --JUDY LONG,          SOCIOLOGY DEPARTMENT,      SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY   --
 --103 SIMS IV, SYRACUSE, NY 13244-1230, USA     (315)443-4580          --
 --Bitnet: JLONG@SUVM        Internet: JLONG@SUVM.ACS.SYR.EDU           --
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 15:16:44 -0600
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         "tonight, tonight,
              won't be just any night..." <0231722@NORTHWEST.MISSOURI.EDU>
Subject:      scholarship seeker

     As a junior undergrad at Northwest (maryville, MO), I am looking
for any scholarships that might be available for my senior year.  Here is
some info about me... if you know of or come across a scholarship which I
would be qualified for, please respond privately.
Name:  Natalie E. Banks
Status:  Junior, will have 95 credit hours at end of semester.
         Pyschology major, philosophy minor.
         Wish to pursue Ph.D. in psychology, preferably at University
          of Colorado @ Boulder.
         Military dependent of active duty Army Nat'l Guard.
         Female, age 19.
Interests:  Psychology, philosophy, creative writing, women's studies,
            and parapsychology.

I will be happy to receive info about ANY scholarship, so even if there
is a question, send it on in!

Thank you for your efforts--

Natalie E. Banks
0231772
Northwest MO St. Univ.
Maryville, MO  64468-6009
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 14:18:38 -0600
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Gretchen T Legler-1 <legle002@MAROON.TC.UMN.EDU>
Subject:      Test

I am new to the Women's Studies List and am only sending test. No need to
respond.

Gretchen Legler
University of Minnesota
legle002@maroon.tc.umn.edu
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 21:31:20 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Lucy Candib MD <lcandib@UMASSMED.UMMED.EDU>
Subject:      Harsh supervision by women

Can anyone refer me to feminist discussions of the occasional problem of
the woman supervisor or teacher who is harsher or more critical of the
women she supervises or teaches than of male trainees or students?
I would like to sort out some of the factors that might set up such a
phenomenon--isolation, tokenism, desperation--and wonder if anyone has
written about it, in any field.  Thanks.
Lucy M. Candib, M.D.
Family Health and Social Service Center
875 Main St.
Worcester, Massachusetts 01610
508-756-3528
lcandib@umassmed.ummed.edu
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 21:47:27 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         lin3@HUSC.HARVARD.EDU
Subject:      Asian American feminism

The South End Press just published  The_State_of_Asian_America:_Activism
    116 St. Botolph St.            and Resistance in the 1990s
    Boston, MA 02115            Edited by K. Aguilar-San Juan
    (617) 266-0629
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 20:50:10 MST
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Ann_Hall@MTS.UCS.UALBERTA.CA
Subject:      Lisa Moore

Is there anyone out there who would have the
e-mail address for Lisa Moore at the University
of Texas, Austin? If so, please respond privately
to USERMAHA@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 23:12:53 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Iana Pattatucci <luciana%bchem.dnet@DXI.NIH.GOV>
Subject:      dominant groups

I am interested in locating researchers and/or published articles specifically
addressing how heterosexism and homophobia constrain the lives of those in
the dominant group(s).  This topic has been dealt with peripherally in several
articles.  However, is there anyone working on this directly?

iana
luciana%bchem.dnet@dxi.nih.gov"
iana@glib.org
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 00:26:10 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Arnie Kahn <FAC_ASKAHN@JMUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      electronic women's studies

There have been some postings lately about using electronic
communications in WS classes.  As someone mentioned, I have a paper on
the InformM gopher at the U. of Maryland gopher on this topic.

My experience is that electronic bulletin boards and email work best
wen (1) students have some incentive for posting, and (2) formal,
at-the-computer training is given at the start of the semester.

My class of 25 in Psych of Women are posting 30+ messages per week on
the bb--really.  It becomes a safe, women-space for students to
discuss what's on their minds as they go through the course.  The
results are quite phenomenal.

Arnie
Arnie Kahn   fac_askahn@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
             fac_askahn@jmuvax
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 06:45:11 EST
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Allan Hunter <AHUNTER@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Subject:      Re: dominant groups
In-Reply-To:  Your message of Wed, 26 Jan 1994 23:12:53 -0500

Unabashed plug for my own work!

Same Door, Different Closet:  A Heterosexual sissy's Coming-Out Party
in feminism and psychology 2(3): 367-85 and reprinted in HETEROSEUXALITY
[a fem and psych reader] Ed. Wilkinson and Kitzinger (Sage 1993),
150-168

(for a theory of what patriarchy, heterosexism, and homophobia do to
males, esp. those attracted to women).

-Allan Hunter
<ahunter@sbccvm>
<ahunter@ccvm.sunysb.edu>
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 08:49:55 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         "Marsha E. Hass" <HASSM@COFC.EDU>
Organization: College of Charleston
Subject:      Re: Harsh supervision by women

In management, this has been characterized as part of the "Queen Bee" Syndromne.
I hope this helps.

This is in respone to query on women being more critical of female trainees,
 etc.
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 09:21:00 EST
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         RHODA UNGER <UNGER@APOLLO.MONTCLAIR.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Harsh supervision by women

There hasn't been much discussion of this issue since the early 70's when
there was some work on the Queen Bee Syndrome.  The only more recent source
I can think of is some of the chapters in a book called Competition which
was published by the SUNY Press.  One of the editors was Valerie Minor, but
that's the best I can do.  Hope it helps.  Rhoda Unger
unger@apollo.montclair.edu
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 08:47:24 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         "Edwards, J. Michele" <EDWARDS@MACALSTR.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Harsh supervision by women

Lucy,
See Competition: A Feminist Taboo? edited by Valerie Miner and Helen E.
Longino, especially the 1st essay, "Competition: A Problem for Academic Women,"
by Evelyn Fox Keller and Helene Moglen.  The last several essays are clustered
under the heading "Feminist Transformations" and may be of interest too.

J. Michele Edwards (Music Dept.)  612/696-6521    Bitnet: edwards@macalstr
Macalester College, St. Paul, MN 55105          Internet: edwards@macalstr.edu
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 16:38:00 +0100
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         "Pirjo Elovaara." <KVIVET@GEMINI.LDC.LU.SE>
Subject:      request to info

Hello dear wmst-l readers! I am writing on behalf of our head.
She is looking for contacts with scholars h
ho are (=who are) doing
some research about women in Switzerland. It would be great to
find some Swiss scholar in Lausanne or Geneve.
Can anybody help. Please answer privately: kvivet@gemimi.ldc.lu.se.
Thanks for help!
Please answer as soon as possible!!!
Pirjo Elovaara
kvivet@gemini.ldc.lu.se
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 10:51:13 EST
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Jesse Lemisch <LEMJJ@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Harsh supervision by women
In-Reply-To:  Message of Thu,
              27 Jan 1994 09:21:00 EST from <UNGER@APOLLO.MONTCLAIR.EDU>

re: Queen Bee Syndrome, note the flourishing of such themes as part of back-
lash in the mass media, eg, the Sigourney Weaver character in "Working Girls"
(?) and apparently the new Michael Crichton novel, in which the "Queen Bee"
coerces her mail empoyees into sex.
                                   Jesse Lemisch
                                   lemjj@cunyvm
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 10:55:35 EDT
Reply-To:     Jean.L.Potuchek@cc.gettysburg.edu
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Jean Potuchek <Jean.L.Potuchek@CC.GETTYSBURG.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Harsh supervision by women

Rosabeth Moss Kanter's mid-1970s book, *Men and Women of the Corporation,*
included a discussion of this phenomenon.  Kanter focused on the
*structural* issues -- the ways that women supervisors were often granted
less discretion by their supervisors than were men, were more likely to be
blamed if something went wrong, and therefore were much less tolerant of
errors by those they supervised.

- - - - -
Jean L. Potuchek
Women's Studies Coordinator
Gettysburg College
jpotuche@gettysburg.edu
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 11:13:54 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         "Mr. Kenneth Ehrensal" <ehrensal@ACAD.CSV.KUTZTOWN.EDU>
Subject:      Apple Computer, Inc. (fwd)

I am fowarding this message which I received from another discussion
list.  I thought that it would be of interest
to others on this list.

------------------------
Forwarded Message
------------------------


Dear Colleagues,

I received the following e-mail message on an INTERNET conference that I
am part of.  I am passing it on to you and hope that you may take this
small action in support of lesbian and gay rights.

Don McCormick Core Faculty, BA Program in Liberal Studies Antioch
University Los Angeles

---------------------------------------------------------------
I am sending you this because I think that it is important.  Please read
this message and decide whether you think that your contribution can make
a difference.  Then ACT!

Apple Computer is under a well organized phone-fax-mail attack by the
Religious Right, demanding that Apple Computer drop its pro-human rights
policy of non-discrimination against lesbian and gay employees.
Basically, far right groups including religous fundamentalists are
pressuring the company to "see the light" and discriminate.  Right now
there are about 500 callers in opposition to every 1 in support of current
policies.

Let's change this!

You can send an electronic mail message to this e-mail address

          murphy.s@applelink.apple.com

You can also write or call

     Michael Spindler, President
     Apple Computer
     20525 Mariani Avenue
     Cupertino, CA 95014

     (408) 996-1010

and say that you support the company's non-discrimination policy, which
includes sexual orientation and benefits for partners of lesbian and gay
employees. Thanks, and PLEASE forward this to anyone you know who might
support this cause.

P.S. If you don't have the time to write something, copy this and send it
out, and maybe add something about how you own a Mac, or are Mac-dependent
(you know you are!).


-----------------cut here---------------------------------------

I strongly support your current non-discrimination policy, especially in
regard to lesbian and gay employees, as well as benefits for partners of
those employees.  I also would like to recognize Apple's brave role as a
pioneer in the search for equal opportunity, and hope that more companies
will follow and not be pressured by the far right to discriminate against
people based on who they are.

With my sincerest thanks and hopes that you will receive more support for
your actions,

-----------------cut here---------------------------------------
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 12:13:06 -0600
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Caroline Brettell <cbrettel@SUN.CIS.SMU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: research on violent children
In-Reply-To:  <199401241958.OAA13704@umd5.umd.edu>

On Mon, 24 Jan 1994, Marilyn P. Safir wrote:

  Infact it was found that the children who "suffered"
> tended to be those whose mothers who wanted to work but stayed home "to
> be with the Kids" or those that had to work but didn't want to "suffered"
> equally ie if mother was unhappy it efects the kids-  Generally speaking
> the only difference between kids whose mothers worked or didn't work out
> of the home was that kids in the first group were more indepandent than
> those whose mothers were homemakers.

I find this extremely interesting. It is my impression that one of the
major goals of working mothers is to make their children independent--to
teach them how to make decisions for themselves and to have a certain
degree of responsibility for their own actions. My mother was a working
journalist in the 1950s--in fact, I was the only child with a working
mother in my class.
She interviewed other women (singers, theatrical people, etc) and from my
reexamination of many of her articles it seems that many women then
stressed independence in their children as highly desirable. I think my
mother was searching for kindred spirits in these interviews--some
affirmation of her own goals and values.

Just a comment

Caroline Brettell
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 14:13:06 EST
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         GaeaH@EDC.ORG
Subject:      Job Announcement and Inquiry

FIRST MESSAGE

*Received this in the mail.*

Bloomburg University
Temporary Postition Fall 1994 Semester
Date of Notice: November 23, 1993
Job Title/Rank: Instructor/Assistant Professor of Chemistry

Description:
Temporary Position, One-semester replacement in ACS-approved Chemistry
Department beginning late _August 1994_. Instructional responsibilities will be
in introductory inorganic chemistry. Twelve contact hour average per semester.

Qualifications/Experience:
A minimum of MS/Ph.D preferred, specialization in inorganic chemistry. Quality
teaching experience, or potential in general/inorganic chemistry is expected.

Appointment Date: Classes begin on August 28, 1994
Salary: Dependent on qualifications and experience.

Application Process:
Send letter of application, three letters of reference, resume, statement
outlining teaching philosophy and interests, copies of all transcripts to Dr.
L. L. Mack, Department of Chemistry, Bloomsburg, PA 17815. For more
information, call 717/389-4107. Bloomsburg University is an affirmative
action/equal opportunity employer. Persons of color, women, and all other
protected class members are especially urged to apply.

Application Deadline:
Application letters must be postmarked no later than Monday, February 21, 1994.

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SECOND MESSAGE

The Women's Educational Equity Act (WEEA) Publishing Center is looking for
samples of evaluation tools and information on evaluation techniques for the
'93-'94 WEEA Program Grant recipients. If you have any information, please
contact:

Katherine Hanson (KatherinH@edc.org)
Director
WEEA Publishing Center
Education Development Center, Inc.
55 Chapel Street
Newton, MA 02158-1060
800/225-3088; in MA, 617/969-7100
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 14:44:55 EST
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         STRETCH OR DROWN/ EVOLVE OR DIE <finkel@KENYON.EDU>
Subject:      modest suggestion about requests

Can I make a modest suggestion about how we handle requests for information?
Given that we have had discussions lately about the list's volume,
and that Jean has broken in to remind us of the problem of volume, would it be
possible to initiate a general policy that when someone makes a request we all
respond _privately_ even if it is something of interest to the whole list and
that, if there is enough interest, the requester agree to post a summary to
the whole list?

Let me suggest that there are other reasons why this might simply be a good
policy.  I admister a program in which I often get requests for information
about things I know little about. I try to save as much information as I think
might at some point be useful to someone.  If answers to requests keep
dribbling in one by one, it's very difficult for me to archive material in a
way I can retrieve it.  However, if I can get all the responses at once I can
save them neatly in one message and retrieve them easily when I want them.

I am referring here primarily to requests for bibliographic information and
short responses of that nature.  Discussions of pedagogy, for instance, might
be handled differently.  Anyway it's a suggestion.



                                     ,,,
                                    (o o)
+-------------------------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo--------------------------------+
|        Laurie Finke, Women's and Gender Studies, Kenyon College            |
|                  Gambier, OH 43022       phone: 614-427-5276               |
|        home: 614-427-3428, P.O. Box 731     mail: FinkeL@Kenyon.Edu        |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 14:48:40 EST
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         GaeaH@EDC.ORG
Subject:      Films: First of Five

Several weeks ago, I began gathering women's film titles for postings on
HandsNet. Those who responded asked that I share the lists on WMST-L. This
lists mainstream films, the second lists documentaries and non-popular, the
third lists WEEA films, the forth lists WEEA films distributed by others, and
the fifth lists organizations that distribute women's films.

Gaea Honeycutt
GaeaH@edc.org
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Mainstream Women's Films

The following is a listing of mainstream/popular films with strong and/or
memorable female characters found at your local video store or theater.

HOME VIDEO
Baghdad Cafe
Beaches
Camille Claudel
Coal Miners Daughter
The Color Purple
Daughters of the Dust
Dim Sum: A Little Bit of Heart
Entre Nous
Fried Green Tomatoes
Gas, Food and Lodging
The Getting of Wisdom
The Handmaid's Tale
Heartland
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings
I've Heard the Mermaids Singing
Lady Sings the Blues
A League of Their Own
Lianna
Little Vera
Little Women
The Long Walk Home
Marilyn
Mermaids
My Brilliant Career
The Nasty Girl
Norma Rae
One Sings, the Other Doesn't
Passion Fish
Places in the Heart
Prince of Tides
A Room of One's Own
Shame
She's Gotta Have It
Silkwood
Steele Magnolias
Stella
Strangers in Good Company
Tell Me a Riddle
Terms of Endearment
Thelma and Louise
What's Love Got to Do with It
Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown

CURRENTLY AT LOCAL THEATERS
Farewell My Concubine
Heaven and Earth
The Joy Luck Club
Like Water for Chocolate
The Pelican Brief
The Piano
Shadowlands
Summerhouse
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 14:49:37 EST
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         GaeaH@EDC.ORG
Subject:      Films: Two of Five

Women's Documentary Films

Many of the following women's documentary films may be obtained through your
local video store or an independent video distributor.

Judy Chicago: The Birth Project
Killing Us Softly
Maxine Hong Kingston: Talking Story
Maya Angelou: Rainbow in the Clouds
Slaying the Dragon (images of Asian American women in film)
Speaking Our Peace (women in peace movements)
Still Killing Us Softly
Taking Our Bodies Back


OTHER FILMS
Gay Youth (40 minutes with accompanying study guide)
Wolfe Video
P.O. Box 64
New Almaden, CA 95042
800/642-5247

Running Mate: Gender and Politics in the Editorial Cartoons  (47 minutes)
First Run Icarus Films
153 Waverly Place
Sixth Floor
New York, NY 10014
800/876-1710
Fax: 212/989-7649

Women Seen on Television (10 minutes, 50 seconds)
Letting Go Foundation, Inc.
02000 SW Palatine Hill Road
Portland, OR 97219
503/635-7511


Gaea Honeycutt
GaeaH@edc.org
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 14:49:37 EST
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         GaeaH@EDC.ORG
Subject:      Films: Three of Five

WEEA Videos on Women

The following is a listing of videos about women created and developed by
Women's Educational Equity Act (WEEA) Program grant recipients.

DISTRIBUTED BY WEEA PUBLISHING CENTER

Sandra, Zella, Dee and Clare: Four Women in Science (19 mins.), $43.00
purchase, $7.00 rental
Dr. Lenore Blum
Part of EXPANDING YOUR HORIZONS IN MATH AND SCIENCE, a comprehensive program
that helps educators and parents encourage young women consider careers in
science and technology, this video takes a look at the careers of four women--
an astronomer, a veterinarian, a laser physicist, and an engineer.

It's Her Future (17 mins.), $43.00 purchase, $7.00 rental
Marilyn Levin
A winner of LEARNING magazine's award for audiovisual excellence, IT'S HER
FUTURE encourages young women, their parents, and their teachers to explore the
range of training opportunities and benefits available in nontraditional
careers. The film delves into the advantages and disadvantages of
nontraditional career programs and thus helps students make timely and
realistic decisions. Accompanying decision guide.

Don't Go to Your Room . . . And Other Affirmations of Empowerment for Women
with Disabilities (60 mins.), captioned or non captioned, 63.00 purchase, $7.00
rental
Access Oregon
This one-hour videotape addresses the double barrier of being a woman and
having a disability. 12 women in one-on-one interviews discuss employment,
relationships, sexuality, abuse, health, parenting, empowerment; and how to
confront stereotypes and the manifestation of these myths.


Gaea Honeycutt
GaeaH@edc.org
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 14:51:55 EST
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         GaeaH@EDC.ORG
Subject:      Films: Fourth of Five

WEEA Films Distributed By Others

With Silk Wings: Asian American Women at Work (4 videos)
National Asian American Telecommunications Association
CrossCurrent Media
346 Ninth Street, Second Floor
San Francisco, CA 94103
415/863-0814

Attaining Equity and Excellence in Postsecondary Classroom Interaction of Deaf
Students
Barbara Bodner Johnson
Gallaudet University
Washington, DC 20002
202/651-5530

Disabled Women and Girls: Networking across the Generations
YWCA/NYC
610 Lexington Avenue
New York, NY 10022
212/673-4284

Mixed Messages: Teens Talk about Sex Romance, Education and Work
Breaking Through: Portraits of Winners
The  NETWORK, Inc.
Publications Department
300 Brickstone Square, Suite 900
Andover, MA 01810
508/470-1080

Competing Voices: The Administrative Interview
Competing Voices: The Administrative Challenge
Center for Educational Equity
American Institutes for Research
P.O. Box 1113
Palo Alto, CA 94302
415/493-3550

You Are the Game: Sexual Harassment on Campus
Indiana University
Field Services Department
Bloomington, IN 47405-5901
812-855-8087

Breaking Stereotypes: Teens Talk About Raising Children
Educational Equity Concepts, Inc.
114 East 32nd Street, Suite 701
New York, NY 10016
212/725-1803

Nothing But Options
Math/Science Network
678 13th Street, Suite 100
Oakland, CA 94612
510/8936284

We All Count in Family Math
EQUALS
University of California
Lawrence Hall of Science
Berkeley, CA 94720
510/642-1823

Women in Science Videotape Series
Agency Instructional Technology (AIT)
Box A 1111 West 17th Street
Bloomington, IN 47401
800/457-4509

Ms. 99-128: Theatre Arts for Female Offenders
Institution Programs, Inc.
P.O. Box 18583
Oklahoma City, OK 73154
405/752-2198

Positive Images: Portraits of Women with Disabilities
Women Make Movies
462 Broadway, Suite 501
New York, NY 10013
212/925-0606


Just Between Sisters: Futures Unlimited
Consortium for Educational Equity
Rutgers University
Livingston Campus #4090
New Brunswick, NJ 08903
201/932-2071

The Sooner the Better
The Time Has Come
Spectrum Media
58 Hovey Street
Watertown, MA 02172
617/491-4300

Gaea Honeycutt
GaeaH@edc.org
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 14:51:56 EST
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From:         GaeaH@EDC.ORG
Subject:      Films: Fifth of Five

Organizations with Women's Videos

The following are organizations that provide women's videos or information on
women's videos.

Her Own Words (Women's History, Literature, & Art)
P.O. Box 5264
Madison, WI 53705
608/271-70083

National Women's History Project
7738 Bell Road
Windsor, CA 95492-8518
Phone: 707/838-6000
Fax: 707/838-0478

WAVE: Women's Audiovisuals in English: A Guide to Non-Print Resources in
Women's Studies
University of Wisconsin System
Room 430 Memorial Library
728 State Street
Madison, WI 53706
608/263-5754

Wolfe Video
P.O. Box 64
New Almaden, CA 95042
800/6425247

Women Make Movies
462 Broadway, Suite 501
New York, NY 10013
212/925-0606
Fax: 212/925-2052

Gaea Honeycutt
GaeaH@edc.org
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 14:57:43 EST
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         VALERIE WAGONER <v.wagone@MSUACAD.MOREHEAD-ST.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Harsh women supervisors
In-Reply-To:  <199401270727.CAA23191@umd5.umd.edu>; from "Automatic digest
              processor" at Jan 27, 94 12:00 (midnight)

To the person requesting info on harsh women superisors:

You may want to check in the Nursing literature. I understand this is
common in that field, especially in ER Nursing.

I also dug out the cites for the books on women healers and crones being
treated as witches. Here they are:

Ehrenreich and English (sorry forgot to write down their first names
    (1978). "For Her Own Good". Andover Books/Doubleday:
    NY.

Szaz, Thomas (1970). "The Manufacture of Madness". Harper and Row: NY.


Later.

Valerie
v.wagone@msuacad.morehead.st.edu
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 22:07:18 +0200
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Eileen Boris <boris@CC.HELSINKI.FI>
Subject:      Re: your mail Sanger
In-Reply-To:  <199401262131.XAA17821@kruuna.Helsinki.FI> from "judy long" at
              Jan 26, 94 03:52:32 pm

I'm responding to the list instead of Judy Long because others might
want to know about this resource: for Margaret Sanger there is an entire
historical editing project on it: The Margaret Sanger Papers Project
located at the Department of History, NYU. Esther Katz is the editor,
co-director.  The phone is 212 998 8620

Eileen Boris--Howard Univ. but for this academic year,
Eileen.Boris@Helsinki.Fi
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 14:28:30 -0600
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Caroline Brettell <cbrettel@SUN.CIS.SMU.EDU>
Subject:      Thank you everyone re mothers/daughters

Just wanted to thank everyone who has sent, privately or publically,
suggestions on mother/daughter literature. I have my work cut out for me.
This list is wonderful for exchanging information and pooling ideas.

Cheers,

Caroline
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 16:25:27 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Kimberly M Stull <stullkim@STUDENT.MSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: scholarship seeker
In-Reply-To:  <199401270450.XAA10952@umd5.umd.edu> from "tonight,
              tonight," at Jan 26, 94 03:16:44 pm

Natalie Banks
I have some info for army dependents.  Will you post your e-mail
address and i'll send it along
thanks,
kim
(stullkim@student.msu.edu)

>
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 1994 11:00:00 -0700
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Karen Kidd <KKIDD@ROCKY.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Request for Info

        Jane Hannigan recently requested information about the "crone."
I replied to her privately, but thought others might also like to know
that one of my colleagues here is an excellent and willing resource
person on this topic.  I encourage "crone" researchers to contact:
Dr Carolyn Harrison/The Claremont Graduate School/ 121 E 10th St/
Claremont, CA 91711/Phone (909)621-8000x3692.  Much of Carolyn's research
is focused on women and aging, and she has worked with this symbol a lot.
                                        --Karen Kidd, Claremont Grad Sch
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 13:41:19 -0700
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Diane Price Herndl <dpherndl@NMSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: discussion lists for classes
In-Reply-To:  <199401211912.OAA03899@umd5.umd.edu>

I've been meaning to respond to this post for a couple of days, and only
just found the citation.  There is an excellent discussion of using
electronic lists in a classroom in the December 1990 issue of _College
English_: "Computer Conferences and Learning:  Authority, Resistance, and
Internally Persuasive Discourse," by Cindy Selfe and Marilyn Cooper (both
of Michigan Tech; Cindy is the editor of _Computers and Composition_).

I used such a list in a Women Authors class last semester and, though it
didn't provoke what I considered earth-shatteringly wonderful discussion,
it was useful to the functioning of the class; students who were confused
could confess that ahead of time and I knew where to begin our discussions
to best address their needs.  It seemed to me that the real benefit was
that I made women get involved with technology in a way that they had been
afraid to before.  Over half the women in the class thanked me for
introducing them to e-mail, and have remained active on it; four of them
even started their own discussion group for work on their writing.

A related aside:  Cindy Selfe and Marilyn Cooper were here last week to
talk about technology, post-modernism, and access to technology.  Cindy
pointed out something of relevance to this list:  Menus on most new
"interactive" computer software are formatted as a "desktop," something
she points out is explicitly race- and gender-oriented to those in power
(those who are familiar with "desktops").  Why, she asked, if we really do
want to involve more women with computers are such entry-screens not
formatted as something else--say, a kitchen counter or cabinet?

Diane Price Herndl
NMSU
dpherndl@nmsu.edu
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 15:08:21 PST
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From:         "Monica P. Kendel" <KENDEL@UVVM.UVIC.CA>
Subject:      feminist opinions of transexuals

hello women studies
monica kendel here in search of info for dr holly devor at the university of
victoria.  i am looking for feminist opinion/commentary/debate on transexuals/
transexualism.  i realize that much of the commentary would be found in
letters to editors, or opinion pages, or e-mail communiques, or other obscure
sources...and are therefore not searchable through the usual methods!
if you have any leads, know relevant dates and sources of debates, know of key
people, i would appreciate your lovely assistance.  personal replies would
be appreciated.  hope to hear from you soon.  thanks.

monica kendel
university of victoria
victoria, b.c.
kendel@uvvm.uvic.ca
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 21:17:46 EST
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         pat ulbrich <R1PMU@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      evaluations

We are in the process of developing an evaluation form for WS courses.
Has any one developed evaluations specifically for WS courses?  If so, we'd
appreciate hearing from you/getting a copy of the evaluation.  Thanks in
advance.
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 23:49:40 -0200
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From:         Cecilia Maria B Sardenberg <cecisard@SUNRNP.UFBA.BR>
Subject:      Re: research on violent children
In-Reply-To:  <D07CD81D6001A1CC@brfapg.bitnet>

I have been following the discussions about children of working mothers
with great interest. In Brazil it was only in the 1970's that
women (middle class women, that is ) began to join the labor
market in greater numbers. But the
discussions here focus more on the conflicts experienced by the working-
mothers, than what the fact that the mother works may do to children.
Because domestic service is so cheap here and so easily found,
middle-class working mothers can leave their children with full-time
(live-in) babysitters. However, most of the women I know have 'guilty'
feelings about leaving their children with the sitter, going to work, and
enjoying being out of the house... To compensate, they end up spoiling
their kids, turning them into real 'brats' (which does not mean that they
end up as 'violent children'). Because the 'cult of motherhood' and
the 'blame the mother' supermarket-psychology offered are still very strong
here,
Brazilian working mothers have a heavy 'double day' load to carry, and
'liberation' has only come half-way. Note, however, that I talk about
middle-class women. Poor working mothers experience a much different
situation: they do have what to be concerned about, since many of them are
forced to leave their children alone (usually under the care of the
eldest who may be quite young herself), or worse, send them out in
streets to work and to be exposed to all kinds of violence.

Has any research been done in the US on the problems/conflicts
experienced by working mothers ? I'm just curious.

Cecilia Sardenberg
NEIM/FFCH/UFBA
Salvador, Bahia, Brazil
cecisard@sunrnp.ufba.br
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 1994 23:47:21 LCL
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Kirsch Vicki L <vlkirs@MAIL.WM.EDU>
Subject:      gender and community

------- Forwarded Message Follows -------

I tried to send this message privately but received the message "host
unknown"  I must have transcribed Leslie's address wrong--

Hi, Leslie.
Let me first say that I teach an entire course
on "Women's Community: Real and Imaginary" and there seems to be more
written in this area all of the time.  I'm not sure what aspect of
"gender and community" you are particularly interested in, but I'm
guessing you are interested in theoretical rather than historical
perspectives.  In this light, I suggest:

Janice Raymond's A PASSION FOR FRIENDS
Sarah Lucia Hoagland's LESBIAN ETHICS
parts of Shari Benstock's WOMEN OF THE LEFT BANK: PARIS, 1900-1940
Starhawk's DREAMING THE DARK
both anthologies THIS BRIDGE CALLED MY BACK and MAKING FACE, MAKING
SOUL/HACIENDO CARAS by Gloria Anzaldua

Let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Yours,
Vicki Kirsch
vlkirs@mail.wm.edu
College of William and Mary
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 07:51:37 -0500
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From:         Jane Elza <jelza@GRITS.VALDOSTA.PEACHNET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: electronic women's studies
In-Reply-To:  <199401270921.EAA06135@umd5.umd.edu>

I am trying to incorporate electronic communications into my classes. In
the Intro to women's studies with 8 students, it did not work because I
left it up to them to participate and the computers are available only in
the library. In my Women and Politics class this quarter, I listed
several questions with instructions, including one to brouse the U of
Maryland women's studies list for info relevant to their papers, which
they can then mail to the class address. I've asked them to find the
caucus updates and mail them as an exercise.
The computer people changed the menus the day before classes, making my
instructions invalid. The new menus, unlike the old, do not list the u of
m gopher site, which requires we exit to ga. southern's or go to veronica
and type women's studies, then go to u of maryland. we cannot go directly
to inform.umdd.umd.edu from a prompt because student use machines are not
set up to do that unless they are in the computer science lab which is
reserved for computer science courses.
Despite these difficulties, students have been interested in using the
technology. However, I've tried to get the index to the women's studies
at u of m and can't from either their address or mine. sending the
request to listserv didn't work. it suggested i say get lists, which led
to the lists of electronic bb for women. I did give to l4 students in the
class, but i'd really like the index. Does anyone else have these problems?
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 07:59:41 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Von Bakanic <BAKANICV@COFC.EDU>
Organization: College of Charleston
Subject:      forwarded posting

An undergrad as asked me to post the following request.  She is trying to
develop a curriculum for high students as part of an independent study:

    Does anyone know of any Intro to WS anthologies appropriate for
high school students?  OR does anyone know of any interdisciplinary
anthologies about women appropriate for high school students? OR can anyone
recommend texts specifically about women's history appropriate for high
school students?

Please reply privately to:
    Joyce Carpenter
    carpenterj@cofc.edu
Thanks.

    Joyce A. Carpenter
        Philosophy & Women's Studies, College of Charleston,
        Charleston, SC 29424; Phone 803-953-7810
        e-mail: carpenterj@ashley.cofc.edu

_____________________________________________________________________
Von Bakanic                                  (803) 953-7105
Dept. of Sociology                           internet address:
College of Charleston                        bakanicv@cofc.edu
Charleston, S.C. 29424
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 08:13:27 -0500
Reply-To:     Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Jane Elza <jelza@GRITS.VALDOSTA.PEACHNET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: evaluations
In-Reply-To:  <199401280245.VAA25876@umd5.umd.edu>

this is the evaluation form i came up with for our 3 hr intro women's
studies course.
   The purposes of this course are to introduce the student to the scope
of women's studies, explain the approaches to feminist scholarship, and
to provde understanding of the roles women have played in society. Please
rate the course on a scale of l-5 with 5 being the highest on the
following criteria. Circle the appropriate choice.
I. Objectives:

   I better understand:                scale is here
   A. the roles women have played
   B. why they have played those roles
   C. the consequences of thsoe roles
   D. the variety of feminism
   E. the various approaches to studying women;.
   F. the need to study women
   G. This course was/was not an appropriate intro to ws because (several
lines)
II. Course:
   A. the course presented a variety of views fairly
   B. the use of guest presenters made the course interesting
   C. the course was too structured/unstructured (circle choice)
   D. the best aspects of this course were (lines)
   E. to improve this course I would (lines)
III. texts
   A. the required texts were appropriate
   B. the required texts were easy to read
   D. the teacher related the texts to dicussion
   D. please comment on how useful you found the texts, noting any
weaknesses or strengths you found relevant (lines)
IV. professor
   The professor:
   A. knew the material
   B. conveyed the material in an understandable manner
   C. presented the material fairly
   D. was responsive to the students
   E. the teachers rates high in comparison to other teachers i have had
at vsu
   F. please comment on any teaching techniques which you found
especially useful/unhekpful (lines)
V. Guest Presenters
   The lecture given by the presenter was informative and contributed to
my understanding of the topic. presenters' names are then listed with
scale to side.
VI. additional comments
    lines
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 07:33:08 -0600
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Patti Self <FRCDPAS@OSUVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: evaluations

Pat,
   We have one that is a combination of earlier versions.  Send me your
snail mail address and I'll forward you a copy.  We will soon have some
data on WS, Chem, Bio, and FRCD courses as well with it.
Patti Self
frcdpas@vms.ucc.okstate.edu
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 09:38:40 -0500
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From:         Bobbie Kolehouse <bkolehou@UWSPMAIL.UWSP.EDU>
Subject:      Re: research on violent children
In-Reply-To:  your message  of Thu Jan 27 12:13:06 -0600 1994

  Infact it was found that the children who "suffered"
> tended to be those whose mothers who wanted to work but stayed home "to
> be with the Kids" or those that had to work but didn't want to "suffered"
> equally ie if mother was unhappy it efects the kids-  Generally speaking
> the only difference between kids whose mothers worked or didn't work out
> of the home was that kids in the first group were more indepandent than
> those whose mothers were homemakers.

>I find this extremely interesting. It is my impression that one of the
>major goals of working mothers is to make their children independent--to
>teach them how to make decisions for themselves and to have a certain
>degree of responsibility for their own actions. My mother was a working
>journalist in the 1950s--in fact, I was the only child with a working
>mother in my class.

My mother worked outin the 60's and has ever since. She's always claimed it
made us independent. What is independence? Self-reliance? How much?
Initiative? In what areas? Decision making -- things happen whether we are
active or passive. Perhaps the point is not independence, but the
degree of nurturing we receive.

Somehow working seems positioned opposite nurturing. Nurturing defined as
the training in life that gives a person the ability to interact in their
culture in a positive way. (I realize how vague and contingent this is)

When a parent's not *being there* all of the time (e.g. being at work), is
viewed as leaving the children unnurtured -read- unmothered. Mothers can't
win, and single fathers are either heros or inept victims who must marry
because the children need a mother.

But parents can nurture or not, *on site* or not, though their capacity is
likely tied to the nurturing they received.

Rambling thoughts in the morning...

Bobbie Kolehouse        bkolehou@uwspmail.uwsp.edu
University Library
UW-Stevens Point
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 10:01:50 -0500
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From:         Bobbie Kolehouse <bkolehou@UWSPMAIL.UWSP.EDU>
Subject:      Re: research on violent children

Infact it was found that the children who "suffered"
> tended to be those whose mothers who wanted to work but stayed home "to
> be with the Kids" or those that had to work but didn't want to "suffered"
> equally ie if mother was unhappy it efects the kids-  Generally speaking
> the only difference between kids whose mothers worked or didn't work out
> of the home was that kids in the first group were more indepandent than
> those whose mothers were homemakers.

>I find this extremely interesting. It is my impression that one of the
>major goals of working mothers is to make their children independent--to
>teach them how to make decisions for themselves and to have a certain
>degree of responsibility for their own actions. My mother was a working
>journalist in the 1950s--in fact, I was the only child with a working
>mother in my class.

My mother worked outin the 60's and has ever since. She's always claimed it
made us independent. What is independence? Self-reliance? How much?
Initiative? In what areas? Decision making -- things happen whether we are
active or passive. Perhaps the point is not independence, but the degree of
nurturing we receive.

Somehow working seems positioned opposite nurturing. Nurturing defined as the
training in life that gives a person the ability to interact in their culture
in a positive way. (I realize how vague and contingent this is)

When a parent's not *being there* all of the time (e.g. being at work), is
viewed as leaving the children unnurtured -read- unmothered. Mothers can't
win, and single fathers are either heros or inept victims who must marry
because the children need a mother.

But parents can nurture or not, *on site* or not, though their capacity is
likely tied to the nurturing they received.

Rambling thoughts in the morning...

Bobbie Kolehouse        bkolehou@uwspmail.uwsp.edu University Library
UW-Stevens Point
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 10:22:38 -0500
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Christine Sue-Chan <chris@DGP.TORONTO.EDU>
Subject:      Desktop Metaphor

I forwarded Diane Price Herndl's comments about the perceived race and
gender biases of computer interfaces to a colleague who is completing
his Ph.D. in Computer Science in the area of Human Computer Interfaces under the
supervision of a female faculty member who is cross-appointed to the
Department of Pscyhology and Computer Science.

Here is their response:

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When user interfaces are created, the designers attempt to make them as easy
to learn as possible.  One way this is done is by using knowledge
that the people who are expected to use the software already have.  The
desktop metaphor was developed at Xerox  because at that time computers
were thought of as office tools and thus it made sense for them to use
the familiar elements of an office, i.e. a desktop, paper and file folders.
Any culture biases in this design are, in our opinion, excusable because the
designers simply had no idea that the desktop metaphor would become as widely
used as it is today.  We would argue that culture biased interfaces are
desirable, as taking advantage of the knowledge inherent in a culture is
a powerful way to make the interface easier to learn.  Of course this means
that different interfaces are desirable for different cultures, which has
the advantage that local software companies may have an edge in developing
software for their market.

We would strongly disagree however that the desktop metaphor is in any way
gender biased, if we restrict ourselves to western culture -- the culture
for which it was designed.  The office has never been an exclusively male
preserve.  In fact, any computer analyst will tell you that computer
interfaces are generally designed for secretaries, who, when the desktop
metaphor was designed, tended to be female (this is probably still true;
whether this is desirable or not is irrelevant to our argument).  As further
evidence in support of our assertion, it should be noted that many of the
members of the Apple Human Interface Group (Apple is the company largely
responsible for popularizing the desktop metaphor) are female, including
the head of that group, Joy Mountford.

Other metaphors, such as the suggested kitchen metaphor, are probably very
appropriate for certain types of software, such as a household management
program, as its users would be familiar with the elements of such a
metaphor, in addition to the fact that such a metaphor would be a
better fit to the application (a very important design consideration).
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 10:19:09 -500
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From:         "Giavanna J. Munafo" <gjm9u@DARWIN.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      women and whiteness results

I'm posting this information to the list because I think
many subscribers may find it useful. Here are the
suggestions I received re: my Women and Whiteness
research query to the list:

Blee, Kathleen M.: _Women of the Klan_
Brady, Maureen: _Folly_ (novel--lesbian/race-relations)
Caraway, Nancie: _Segregated Sisterhood: Racism and
    the Politics of American Feminism_
Erickson, Peter: "Profiles in Whiteness" in
    the _Stanford Humanities Review_ (Winter, 1993)
Fowlks, Diana: _White Political Women_
Frye, Marilyn:  essays in _The Politics of Reality_ (1983)
Frye, Marilyn: _Willful Virgin_
Hall, Kim F.: in _Women, "Race," and Writing_
Hooks, Bell: "Representing Whiteness" in _Black Looks_
Kaye/Kantrowitz, Melanie:  essay in _The Issue is Power_
Pratt, Minnie Bruce:  _Rebellion:  Essays_ (1991)
Rich, Adrienne:  selected essays from _Lies, Secrets,
    and Silence_ (1979) and _Bread, Blood, and Poetry_ (1986)
Russo, Ann:  essay "We Cannot Live without Our Lives"
    in _Third World Feminism_
Seagrest, Mab:  _My Mama's Dead Squirrel _
Spelman, Elizabeth:  _Inessential Woman_ (1988)
Ware, Vron:  _Beyond the Pale:  White Women,
    Racism, and History_
Welch, Sharon:  _A Feminist Ethic of Risk_  1990
Wilson, Barbara: _Murder in the Collective_
    (novel--lesbian/race-relations)
Young, Lisa: in _Women, "Race," and Writing_

Many Thanks to: Kim F. Hall, Debian Marty,
Cynthia Nieb, Tiffany Hogan, Kathleen Barker,
Marilyn Edelstein, Lisa Majaj and others whose
names I may have misfiled.If anyone still has
something to add, let me know privately.

Giavanna Munafo
gjm9u@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 10:57:13 EDT
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From:         "Linda Lopez McAlister <dllafaa@CFRVM.CFR.USF.EDU>"
              <DLLAFAA@CFRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Call for Nominations: Editor of HYPATIA

 Time flies. It is already nearly four years since HYPATIA's editorial office
moved to the University of South Florida. Since it is our policy to rotate the
editorship of the journal every five years, it is once again time for
Hypatia's Executive Board of Associate Editors to call for nominations for a
new general editor.

  The new editor will serve for a term of five years beginning July 1, 1995.
The qualifications are: a record of publications in the field of feminist
philosophy; an affiliation at an institution willing to provide at least
minimal support for the journal; experience in editing and administration or
business; willingness and ability to work with the various philosophical
orientations represented in contemporary feminist philosophy. Nominations for
a joint editorship will be considered. Self-nominations are encouraged. In
nominating oneself, enclose a copy of your cv; in nominating another, include
the nominee's address, phone, and your reasons for the nomination. Qualified
nominees will receive guidelines for developing a full proposal. Proposals
will be evaluated and ranked by the Hypatia Executive Board (the Associate
Editors) with assistance from officers of the three divisions of the Society
for Women in Philosophy. Final selection will be made by the Board in
consultation with Indiana University Press. Nominations should be sent to
Hypatia, University of South Florida, SOC 107, Tampa, FL 33620. Deadline for
receipt of nominations is June 1, 1994. Contact the editorial office of the
journal for additional information via e-mail at the address below or by phone
at (813) 974-5531.
***************************************************************************

****Linda Lopez McAlister <mcaliste@chuma.cas.usf.edu>
****HYPATIA  <DLLAFAA@cfrvm.cfr.usf.edu>
****University of South Florida. SOC 107
****Tampa, FL  33620                    (813) 974-5531
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 10:44:15 -0600
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From:         mcvay pamela anne <pmcvay@UXA.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      LOST Niki Beno. address

Sorry to post to WMST-L.  Niki, I lost your address for smail-mailing
information about using electronic bulletin boards in the classroom as
well as deleting your e-mail address.  Could you send the message again,
pamela mcvay
pmcvay@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 10:53:38 -0600
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From:         Caroline Brettell <cbrettel@SUN.CIS.SMU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: working/mothering/nurturing/independence
In-Reply-To:  <199401281600.LAA14200@umd5.umd.edu>

The problem is indeed that somehow mothering and nurturing is opposed to
working. Many working mothers are always there at the other end of the
telephone for their children. My mother (again in the 50s) often took her
lunch hour at 10am to watch us in a school play. She was always there for
advice etc. But independence to her was self-reliance. She did not bake
the cookies for me for the school bake sale; she taught me how to do it;
she helped; but I did it.

Again more thoughts about this backlash issue. Working mothers should be
praised for all that they get done not blamed for all the ills of society!

Caroline
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 08:48:38 PST
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From:         Theresa Thompson <60840883@WSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      women's leadership

I am not certain this topic belongs on this conference, but it is academic and
it does relate to women's studies.  I do encourage private responses.  My probl
em, if it is a problem, is this:

I was recently nominated for an award from the Association of Faculty Women at
my university (the award is for Outstanding Doctoral Candidate of the Year). I
have no problem with the idea of awards and recognition of what women are doing
in doctoral studies.  However, the award requires that a candidate submit a pac
ket of information (pretty standard stuff: cv, recommendations, personal statem
ent)--and here is where I feel a problem.  The directions for writing the perso
nal statement ask the candidate to discuss two things: her   research and her
"professional potential (leadership, etc.)."  As I wrote this document--a true
horror for me, as I never can state why I do what I do--I realized that my rese
arch areas place me almost in direct opposition to the notion that "leadership"
has anything to do with my "potential" in this profession, as I understand it.
The end of my personal statement ends up quoting Virginia Woolf from _Three Gui
neas_ when she questions the desire of women to enter into male-dominated acade
me, to accept awards and distinctions!  Not a good way to win this award, I adm
it.

I am unclear.  My research area for my dissertation is Leslie Silko and how Ind
ian women writers can envision a non-hierarchical, non-patriarchal society with
greater clarity than middle-class white women because (when they revise cultura
l myths) they have experienced such possibilities in their own stories and cult
ures rather than simply imagined such possibilities.  (At least, that's a very
oversimplified view of the work.)  After talking about the value of non-hierarc
hical systems, I find my own position toward "leadership" is a problem: how can
one value traditional notions of leadership?  I think what I do isn't leadershi
p at all; I share. Why should we value those who "lead" rather than those who c
hoose to play a more subdued or quiet role?  Is academe irredeemably "tainted"
by power relationships even to the extent that if one quietly does one's job, a
nd incorporates non-hierarchical values into teaching and researching, that per
son cannot be seen as "outstanding"?????

I am not certain what I am asking here, but I do know that I need help in recon
structing a less insulting personal statement!  I can't "win" any award, I susp
ect, by pointing out that these women have essentially bought into the patriarc
hal notions of "value."

Please respond privately,

Theresa Thompson
<60840883@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu>
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 12:26:03 LCL
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Ruth Ginzberg <RGINZBERG@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU>
Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University
Subject:      Where Do They Learn...???

I am becoming increasingly frustrated with the HUGE numbers of
students who seem to have gotten their entire impression of "feminism"
or "Women's Studies" or "Women's Liberation" almost entirely from
popular media images of these things, and almost entirely to the
exclusion of any serious study whatsoever of the political or
intellectual histories of these social & political movements.

Does this strike anyone else as an increasingly severe problem
(especially given popular media backlashes which seem to be currently
fashionable)?  And if so, what do you do about it?  I am not as much
concerned with the students who DO enroll in WmSt courses as I am
about the ones who DON'T.
----------- Ruth Ginzberg (rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu) ------------
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 11:39:00 CST
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From:         Renee McBride <QC0305@UOKMVSA.BITNET>
Subject:      (COPY) request for papers

Pardon any duplication.

Renee McBride
Univ. of Oklahoma
-------------------------TEXT-OF-FORWARDED-MAIL--------------------------------
     Professor Anita Skeen (Department of English, Michigan State University)
and Professor Dorothy Miller (Center for Women's Studies, Wichita State
University) are interested in brief narratives (1-3 pages) from unmarried
academic couples (same and opposite sex) about significant issues and problems
related to their professional and personal lives.  Areas for consideration
might include treatment by the university, treatment by the departments,
career moves, salary, working together (both teaching and research), and
success stories. Data and personal narratives will be used by Skeen and Miller
in a book chapter on unmarried couples in the academy for a book to be
published by the University of Illinois Press.  Confidentiality, if desired,
will be protected.
     Send responses to Anita Skeen, Department of English, 201 Morrill Hall,
Michigan State University, E. Lansing, Mil 48824 or Dorothy Miller, Center for
Women's Studies, Wichita State University, Wichita, Kansas 67208.  E-mail
address for Skeen is 21798as@msu.edu and for Miller is
DCMILLER@TWSUVM.UC.TWSU.EDU.   Deadline for material: February 20, 1994.


End of Anita's text.  I am sure she would appreciate a cross-posting if some
of you are on other appropriate lists; I belong only to this one.  Thanks,
all. Anne Tracy.
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 11:10:46 -0800
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From:         "Marilyn P. Safir" <safirm@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: research on violent children
In-Reply-To:  <9401281440.AA12047@tolstoy.u.washington.edu>

When I originally posted that children of working mothers wer more
independant, I wasn't implying that this was bad - I think that all of us
would agree that idependance is important and positive.  Refering back to
some of the research - I think again Lois Hoffman - findings of quality
time become important.  In addition - if I remember correctly,
middle SES and higher children of homemakers didnot spend that much more
time with their "non" working mothers.  I am sorry that I can't be more
specific as I don't have my library with me here.  What I was trying to
do waS TO CHALLANGE tODAY'S SOCALLED FINDINGS- AND TO SHOW THAT iN THE
PAST THEY WERE CONNECTED WITH POVERTY AND NOT WITH MOTHER'S OCCUPATIONAL
STATUS  marilyn
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 14:14:44 EST
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From:         Chris Delbes <CDELBES@AMERICAN.EDU>
Organization: The American University
Subject:      Percentage of women lawyers

Hi everyone,

I am sorry for posting a request to the list, since it's been so heavy
lately.  As a non-law student, though, it has been hard for me to
find the following information, for lack of access to law libraries
during non-office hours.    All I need is to know the number of
women lawyers in 1970-1971, 1971-1972, 1972-1973 and 1992-1993.  Apparently












any major American Bar Association would have it.  If anyone out there
is a law professor, who would easily have this info., I would truly appreciate
it if you send it to me privately (not to the list).  Please send me
also the exact source of it.

Thank you very much, and happy new year to everybody.
Chris Delboni
<cdelbes@american.edu>
Fax # (202) 363-0402
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 15:32:40 -0500
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From:         Maureen McHugh <MCMCHUGH@IUP.BITNET>
Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania
Subject:      Re: Feminist Theory Anthologies

We are considering having a WS retreat in order to refocus/revitalize our
program.  We are eight years old with a minor and we usually do alot of campus
programming.  The faculty are only very loosely connected with the program.
The retreat would serve as the starting point for a self study (evaluation).

Have any of you had a successful retreat that was similar in purpose?  How much
time is needed to reach some decisions, or to design some structures for
subsequent decisions?  Would a one day retreat be long enough?  Were there any
incentives in place to recruit participants to the retreat?   Did you have
refreshments or pot luck?  Did you have an outside group facilitator, or did
your director run the retreat?  Any kind of suggestion or description would be
appreciated.  Respond privately and I will summarize the suggestions.

Maureen McHugh, Director, WS, IUP, Indiana PA
Internet:  MCMCHUGH@GROVE.IUP.EDU

P.S. Thank you in advance
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 17:24:39 -0500
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Sender:       Women's Studies List <WMST-L@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Jane Hannigan <HANNIGAN@ZODIAC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Request for Info

Yes, one of my colleagues, Kay Vandergrift, called Carolyn and found it
very helpful for her research. It is one of the wonders of Internet that
we can "communitize" with colleagues all over the world that make teaching
and research move forward quickly with expertise like that recommended
by Karen Kidd. Jane
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 17:45:18 -500
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From:         "Giavanna J. Munafo" <gjm9u@DARWIN.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      women and whiteness again (fwd)

Typo in the original transmission address. Here's the message:



---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 17:40:34 -500 (EST)
From: "Giavanna J. Munafo" <gjm9u@darwin.clas.Virginia.EDU>
To: wsst-l@umdd.umd.edu
Subject: women and whiteness again

Before I  get any more kind notes, I forgot to add the references with
which I began into the 'final' list of resources on women and whiteness.
Hence, Frankenberg's _White Women, Race Matters_, Morrison's _Playing in
the Dark_, and Carby's _Reconstructing Womanhood_ should be included. On
whiteness, but not on women per se, I must also mention Roediger's _The
Wages of Whiteness_, Lott's _Love and Theft_, and Dyer's "White." Thanks
to all contributors and sorry for the oversight.
Giavanna
gjm9u@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 18:26:00 CST
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From:         LEA MAYBERRY <BLEAM@KSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Where Do They Learn...???

On Fri, 28 Jan 1994 at 12:26:03 LCL, Ruth Ginzberg
<RGINZBERG@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU> writes:
> I am becoming increasingly frustrated with the HUGE numbers of
> students who seem to have gotten their entire impression of "feminism"
> or "Women's Studies" or "Women's Liberation" almost entirely from
> popular media images of these things, and almost entirely to the
> exclusion of any serious study whatsoever of the political or
> intellectual histories of these social & political movements.
>
> Does this strike anyone else as an increasingly severe problem
> (especially given popular media backlashes which seem to be currently
> fashionable)?  And if so, what do you do about it?  I am not as much
> concerned with the students who DO enroll in WmSt courses as I am
> about the ones who DON'T.
I suggest a solution of one-to-one meetings with older feminists.  That is how
I got "introduced" to feminism.  I met many elderly suffragists at a local nurs
ing home.  They shared their experiences and theories.  It was from that experi
ence and my own personal experiences that allowed me to seek feminism beyond wh
at is presented via the "media" version.  I have encouraged young feminists to
do the same so that they receive a much "fuller" view of feminism.  Hope this h
elps.  bleam@ksuvm.ksu.edu
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 one cannot help but lead by example. if others follow, you have led.
this is the arguement that mothers can change the world by teaching their
children to share. leading does not necessarily require hierarchy nor
does it require telling people what to do. can you direct social change
without leading? i don't think so, because you are in opposition to the
status quo and leadership is directional.
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 20:39:24 EST
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From:         Allan Hunter <AHUNTER@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Subject:      Re: Where Do They Learn...???
In-Reply-To:  Message of Fri,
              28 Jan 1994 12:26:03 LCL from <RGINZBERG@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU>

On Fri, 28 Jan 1994 12:26:03 LCL Ruth Ginzberg said:
>I am becoming increasingly frustrated with the HUGE numbers of
>students who seem to have gotten their entire impression of "feminism"
>or "Women's Studies" or "Women's Liberation" almost entirely from
>popular media images of these things, and almost entirely to the
>exclusion of any serious study whatsoever of the political or
>intellectual histories of these social & political movements.
>
>Does this strike anyone else as an increasingly severe problem

And while we're at it, is anyone bothered by the tendency for courses
in Feminist Theory to introduce feminist theory as if it sprung into
being no earlier than 1990?  Does ANYONE teach the intellectual and
theoretical history of modern feminist thought?

-Allan Hunter
<ahunter@sbccvm>
<ahunter@ccvm.sunysb.edu>
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 1994 21:04:02 LCL
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From:         Kirsch Vicki L <vlkirs@MAIL.WM.EDU>
Subject:      the Stone Center

If anyone on the list is associated with the Stone Center in Boston,
could you please contact me privately.  Thank you.

Vicki Kirsch
vlkirs@mail.wm.edu
College of William and Mary
