========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 09:03:20 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Anne Carson Subject: Re. Withdrawal of consent Regarding the professor's response to the student, it sounds as if you did well considering the situation. One might also have tactfully suggested that the student discuss this with a counselor (professional or peer), since it seems clear that he was experiencing a lot of guilt, self-doubt, and anger over the incident. I have known other law and pre-law students (male) who sought to deal with personal problems by casting them in a strictly legal light. This is not to negate the legal issues involved, but to point out that treating people badly does not always cross the line into crime. Legalism can be a cop-out from truly accepting responsibility for one's actions. Anne Carson Cornell University ac3x@cornellc.bitnet / ac3x@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu (internet) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 10:19:11 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Nathaniel Paradise" Subject: sexist lang. in legal writing My wife, Donna, a junior associate in a large law firm, went out on a limb this week and wrote up an eight page memo explaining why her firm and others like it have trouble keeping women with the firm. The memo covered the gamut, from blatantly discriminatory practices to institutional practices that support cultural beliefs that women need to care for children but men don't. For example, she pointed out that the firm offers a fairly generous maternity leave, which is great, but the fact that it does not offer an identical paternity leave helps ensure that women will be "mommy tracked" and men won't. She included specific recommendations for change. The memo has gone through several levels of partner, and at each level the response has been positive and grateful for her input. This morning she received a visit from the managing partner of the local office; he was equally positive ("you know my daughter says some of the same sort of things") and said her memo would be the agenda for the meeting of the managing partners next week. My request to you: Among other things the managing partner asked Donna if she knew of a _concise_ guide to eliminating sexist language in _legal_ writing. Any suggestions out there? Natan Paradise nparadis@pennsas.upenn.edu P.S. sorry to take up so much of your cyberspace, but I'm _very_ proud of Donna. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 11:08:56 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: PHILDON@MOREKYPR.BITNET Subject: WOW - Good Goin', Donna Im just read Natan Paradise's memo and am impressed with Donna's courage as well as with the lawyers she works with. Their response seems to be positive and action oriented. By the way, someone commented the other day that the best 'cure' for sexist males is having a daughter who is career oriented - more 'prookf'. Donna Phillips ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 09:21:00 MDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: LHAMPLYONS@CUDENVER.BITNET Subject: RE: We need your Feedback Again. On my campus, there was an election for the faculty Committee on Women; abut 30 women were on the ballot, some in no way women's advocates. The results put 2 of the women's advocates types on the Cte and (I think) 4 others. The prime mover of many developemnts was not elected. She ignored the election result and has continued to attend every meeting, and is in fact the Cte's organizer, memo sender etc. Others of us have continued to attend but less diligently-- we have a meeting today with the President, in fact. So it seems as though in large part the election was ignored; the election was open, not just for women faculty, so some men probab;y voted for the only women they'd heard of--the few who'd been here for over 10 years, whereas the action is among the 89/90/91 entrants. The trouble with self-selection os that it opens us to accusations of restrictiv e practices, the kinds of things we have abhorrred among male groups on campus in the past. Difficult question. Liz Hamp-Lyons LHAMPLYONS@CUDENVER.BITNET ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 11:52:09 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Patt McRae" Subject: Prison teaching I have just finished teaching in the central prison [male] for South CArolina. This was my first effort and it challenged me in many ways as a teacher and as a woman. I have had contact with several males who teach in male prisons but do not know of any women who teach/have taught in either a male or female prison. When I was still in Texas, I had several friends who were artists in residence at the male and female prisons and published some of their work poetry etc. I would like to throw out the following questions to the list members, male and female: 1) If you've taught in prisons, what was different? was it different based on gender? [I found I could *never* attain the level of comfort my male colleagues eventually attained in an all-male setting..the gender issue seemed inescapable]; 2) How did it challenge you as a teacher if that challenge was different from your regular teaching? How did you meet those challenges? If you've taught in both male and female institutions were the challenges different, if so , how? South Carolina after a year long effort a decade ago does not offer higher education to the women's prison. The director of my program says that while he is sure there must be some penal institutions out there that offer higher edu- cation to women, he has not heard/nor read of any. Does anyone out there know of such programs or where they can be located? The past two issues of Journals of Continuing education all address *male* institutions...leading one to think there are no similar offerings for *female* institutions. While males lead in numbers of prisoners, the number of women being convicted has risen. This rise in convictions is considered to be related to the rise in drug use/dealing. While I do adhere to the notion that one should be responsible for one's action and, as my student inmates say, "if you do the crime, you should do the time", the question becomes one of what is the purpose of imprisonment and is the in- carceration period an appropriate time to attempt to alter the causes of social unrest/crime or simply a punitive measure. It is ironic that while in prison it is one of the few times that the female inmates might have that they are free enough of familial responsiblity [most of them are single parents] to focus of getting their education without competing demands. I apologize for the length of the posting and, if it is not appropriate for this list, please respond to me privately..or if it looks like the mail volume will be too large, respond privately and I will synopsize the responses to the list. Thanks for your consideration. Patricia McRae University of South Carolina Bitnet: T350134@univscvm ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 10:12:00 MDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "AVRIL TORRENCE, ENGLISH DEPT. LOC. 5945" Subject: Re: sexist lang. in legal writing Natan: an excellent general text is -Language, Gender, and Professional Writing- (Francine Wattman Frank and Paula A. Treichler). While it doesn't specifically designate law as one of its professions, it does provide extensive examples and non-sexist revisions from many areas. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 11:27:17 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Marsha Miller Subject: New Name for Faculty Women's Club?? For a limited time only, say, next Monday May 4 at midnight, I would appreciate receiving thoughts/comments on the following scenario [send directly to me, please]: Indiana State University has had a Faculty Women's Club for a number of years. It does admit men. It has meetings with topics such as women's health issues, women and conflict; hosts a promotion/tenure workshop every year, a retirement tea and a spring dinner (this year: working for women). As a member I got a ballot this am. They want to change their name. The choices: 1. remain Faculty Women's Club 2. Association for Academic & Professional Women 3. ISU Coalition of Professionals Bridging Gender Differences 4. Faculty Women's Association for Professional Growth I can't make up my mind; I definitely think that dropping "club" is essential. I think that Coalition... is horribly vague. I would like people at institutions with similar groups to tell me just the name of the group. P.S. We also still have a Faculty Wives Club (sigh). Thanks in advance. Marsha Miller, Instruction Librarian Indiana State University Libraries Terre Haute IN 47809 Internet: libmill@cml.indstate.edu. Bitnet: libmill at indst Phone: 812/237-2604 Fax: 812/237-2567 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 12:27:13 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Antje Wiener Subject: Re: sexist lang. in legal writing In-Reply-To: <9205011421.AA09106.9106@alfred.ccs.carleton.ca>; from "Nathaniel Paradise" at May 1, 92 10:19 am Nathaniel Paradise writes: > > My wife, Donna, a junior associate in a large law firm, went out on a limb > this week and wrote up an eight page memo explaining why her firm and others > like it have trouble keeping women with the firm. The memo covered the gamut, > from blatantly discriminatory practices to institutional practices that > support cultural beliefs that women need to care for children but men don't. > For example, she pointed out that the firm offers a fairly generous maternity > leave, which is great, but the fact that it does not offer an identical > paternity leave helps ensure that women will be "mommy tracked" and men won't. > She included specific recommendations for change. > The memo has gone through several levels of partner, and at each level the > response has been positive and grateful for her input. This morning she > received a visit from the managing partner of the local office; he was equally > positive ("you know my daughter says some of the same sort of things") and > said her memo would be the agenda for the meeting of the managing partners > next week. > My request to you: Among other things the managing partner asked Donna if > she knew of a _concise_ guide to eliminating sexist language in _legal_ > writing. Any suggestions out there? > > Natan Paradise nparadis@pennsas.upenn.edu > > P.S. sorry to take up so much of your cyberspace, but I'm _very_ proud of > Donna. You write about Donna as if she were an OBJECT. I get sick when I read such messages re: to "my wife" to begin with and finishing with "I am very proud of her". Sounds as if she were a well trained dog, and you received the laurels anyways! awiener@ccs.carleton.ca > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 12:30:20 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Antje Wiener Subject: Re: WOW - Good Goin', Donna In-Reply-To: <9205011517.AA10885.10885@alfred.ccs.carleton.ca>; from "PHILDON@MOREKYPR.BITNET" at May 1, 92 11:08 am PHILDON@MOREKYPR.BITNET writes: > > Im just read Natan Paradise's memo and am impressed with Donna's > courage as well as with the lawyers she works with. Their response > seems to be positive and action oriented. By the way, > someone commented the other day that the best 'cure' for sexist > males is having a daughter who is career oriented - more 'prookf'. > Donna Phillips Well, this is the easiest way for men to "tolerate" women's demands: They "produce" a daughter, who initiates change or approves it, thus, they do not have to confront their own machismo as a POLITICAL problem, they do not have to change, since they have a daughter, ... or a wife, for that matter. awiener@ccs.carleton.ca > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 13:32:48 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: jill carraway Subject: Faculty women's groups At Wake Forest University, we have a similar group that meets twice a year. Committees from the group have worked on tenure issues, childcare, recruitment and retention of miniority faculty and administrators, and others. The name of this group is Association of Women Faculty and Administrators. Jill Carraway Automation Librarian jill@lib.wfunet.wfu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 13:39:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: LAURA KRAMER Subject: Re: sexist lang. in legal writing In teaching the sociology of gender, and trying to integrate race,ethnicity, class, age, orientation... I struggle with my students to move them away from reaching conclusions about people based on little evidence, and away from generalizing - the goal becomes to develop a more complicated view of and explanation of reality (realities) - I see complexity as a necessary though not sufficient condition for insights. I am very disturbed when I encounter the opposite tendency on this list (or otherwise) among feminist scholars, of whom I have greater expectations. (but there I go, doing what I warn my students against - thinking I can reach a conclusion about people just because they are on this list!) I am hesitant to send this, since I guess there'll be so much of the same response as my own the net will get overloaded, but this is not the week to be silent. laura kramer kramer@apollo.montclair.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 13:41:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: LAURA KRAMER Subject: sexist lang.... Sorry for second message, but i gues i thought my last one would be obviously a protest against the flaming of natan and donna - then realized perhaps it isn't obvious. laura kramer@apollo.montclair.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 14:08:29 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Allan Hunter Subject: Re: sexist lang. in legal writing In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 1 May 1992 12:27:13 -0400 from Antje Weiner has entirely valid political problems with men who sit back and watch women (esp. their wives and daughters) do all the work towards eliminating patriarchy, as if patriarchy were not men's responsibility (after all, responsibility is accountability!). Antje Weiner also has entirely valid political problems with men (like me) who jump in and participate in feminist process as if we had our own stake in feminist success, whereas in fact we know that men are not oppressed as men and in fact are privileged by patriarchy to our own benefit. We should be silent and learn from women, who alone have the authority to speak as feminists. I don't know whether Antje Weiner has said anything whatsoever about the problems that result from men who wish to critically engage with patriarchal process going forth and starting up things called "gender studies" instead of "women's studies", or some other set of terms that cease to emphasize the origins of these understandings: women said it first and it happens to be the most meaningful contribution to social and political thought, as well as personal understandings, since who knows when, and men would love to coopt it while claiming many of its brilliant insights as their own. But whether Weiner would say so or not, it strikes me as a legitimate concern, too. This is NOT intended as a giggly skewering of Dr. Weiner. I do see a lot of sense and a lot of importance to each of these points. I, too, am concerned and would like to be politically creative (if not "politically correct") in figuring out what to do about my oppressive social location and my responsibility for it. But a sense of humor kind of helps! - allan hunter ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 14:16:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: NAME Subject: women's studies curriculum The Univ. of Missouri-Kansas City is trying to revive its women's studies program after several years of being without a director. As part of our process, we are trying to update our curriculum. I would appreciate receiving information from other programs about courses, degree requirements, governance structures, etc. Please send materials to Kristin Esterberg, Dir. of Women's Studies University House, Univ. of Missouri-Kansas City, Kansas City, MO 64110. Thanks! kesterberg@vax1.umkc.edu (or kesterberg@umkcvax1) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 14:59:44 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: jpotuche@CC.GETTYSBURG.EDU Subject: RE: We need your Feedback Again. Liz Hamp-Lyons writes that "The trouble with self-selection is that it opens us to accusations of restrictive practices, the kinds of things we have abhorrred among male groups on campus in the past." We have avoided this problem by using a very open self-selection process. At the beginning of each year, we send out a memo to all paid employees of the college and to all students who have ever taken a women's studies course inviting them to participate on our Women's Studies Program Advisory Council. We also put a notice in the campus newsletter, and hold an informational session for anyone who wants to know more about what the Advisory Council does and how it works. The only restriction on membership is that members must attend (bi-weekly) meetings regularly and serve on at least one subcommittee. Out of this process, we end up with a group of 15-20 active, interested members -- mostly faculty, but also some students, support staff, and administrators. --------------- Jean L. Potuchek Women's Studies Bitnet: jpotuche@gburg Gettysburg College Internet:jpotuche@cc.gettysburg.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 15:46:09 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jo Ellen Green Kaiser Subject: Re: sexist lang. in legal writing In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 1 May 1992 14:08:29 EDT from Come on, people. Allen Hunter is being too gingerly in addressing the issues raised about Donna the lawyer. Donna's husband could not have aided her in her battle because he does not work for her firm! I admit that Donna's husband has perhaps not had his consciousness raised enough about his possessiveness toward his wife and her achievements. But I would hope we would respond to him helpfully, acknowledging his sympathies for his wife's feminist work, rather than unhelpfully flaming him. Isn't our goal to enlighten men about their ties to an oppressive culture, rather than to alienate men entirely? ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 14:40:08 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jacqueline.Ross%VPAcad%VH@TOPNET.UWSA.EDU Subject: re: Prison teaching I used to be the director of and taught in a University of Wisconsin System prison program in the state of Wisconsin. PREP (Postsecondary Re-Entry Education Program) offers coursework leading to academic degrees in 3 prisons, including a women's prison. As part of the curriculum, PREP regularly offers Women's Studies courses to both women and men. In addition, partly as a result of a grant-funded curricular transformation project, issues regarding race, gender, and ethnicity are integrated into virtually all the coursework. PREP also provides an arts and humanities series, counseling, mentoring, re-entry skill programming, etc. I have written articles on my experiences relative to teaching about gender both to women and men in prison as have others in the PREP program. In addition, a few others -- notably Holly Devor -- has written about teaching in such settings. While I am no longer with PREP, the program still exists. You may wish to contact Judith Toland or Dan Abbott, PREP Program, UW Centers, P.O. Box 8680, 150 E. Gilman, Madison, WI 53708-8680. Or you may contact me. Jacqueline Ross, Director UW System Women's Studies Consortium 1636 Van Hise Hall 1220 Linden Dr. Madison, WI 53706 608-262-3056 Jacqueline.Ross%vpacad%vh@topnet.uwsa.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 16:34:35 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Nathaniel Paradise" Subject: how/does one respond to a flame? Frankly, I don't know where to begin. I'm angry, I'm hurt, I feel violated. On a day when entire neighborhoods are going up in the flames of violent, undirected, destructive flames, I was able to console myself in a counterexample: Donna's initial success in confronting oppressive conditions constructively, with the real hope that as a result conditions would improve for Donna and other women at her firm. Now Antje Wiener has poisoned that small joy. Flame. You don't know me, or Donna, or our relationship; you know nothing about the people she works with. Maybe to you I'm just an object, a man-thing to be despised. One who conveniently pulls a wife or daughter out of a hat to foster the illusion that I really care whether the world is a shitty place for women. Maybe I can't convince you otherwise and maybe I shouldn't try. But if Donna's memo is taken seriously by the firm, and if it results in change, then the men in her firm will indeed be forced to confront "their own machismo" as a political problem. They can't possibly adopt her proposals unless they first ackowledge that their behavior, their view of the world, and their expectations have to change. It will cost the firm money, it may cost them some business, it will mean a basic change in what they demand from new associates, and most importantly, it will force a tacit admission that the system they set up and benefited from is fundamentally unfair. This does not constitute mere "toleration." Just to give more background, Donna's firm has been hiring about half women for some time now, but the women don't stay. The partners, concerned about this problem but without understanding why it happens (because they're men) has been having lunch meetings with associates to talk about work conditions. Donna went to such a meeting, but came away convinced they just don't get it. So she wrote the memo. (Oh, and this is a firm that is already fairly progressive as large law firms go: in addition to hiring half women, they offer three months paid maternity leave and are starting to subsidize daycare at a center near the firm.) So there is much to be positive about here; I don't think it's fair to characterize it as a bunch of men pulling out the occasional wife or daughter to avoid confronting the issues. I'm sorry you were offended that I wrote I'm proud of Donna, but dammit, I am, and why shouldn't I be? Writing that memo was hard for her, hard because it meant confronting everything she hates about her job. Hard because she then told her bosses about it. Hard because she didn't know how they would respond. It was scary! But she did it, and it's the first time she's done something like that. So hell yes, I'm proud, and I thought I could share that feeling with people I thought the most likely to understand how hard it was for her to do it, and therefore to share in that pride (as some of you have in private memos: thank you). As for "my wife," I wrote that to indicate relationship (relationships are important, remember?) and to explain why I was posting for someone else. If it had been a friend, I would have written "a friend." And I was intentionally careful to name her to try and avoid the "object" problem. But I guess some people will be offended no matter what you do. As for accepting laurels, send them to Donna, please. But since you bring it up, yeah, I think I deserve some credit. Who do you think has been discussing these issues with Donna every night? Who do you think she showed a draft of her memo to? Who do you think is going to do a lot of the legwork putting together a concise guide to avoiding sexist language in legal writing because she has little time and I am more familiar with the literature? And finally, who the hell do you think does most of the shopping, cooking and cleaning so that she can work 8-6 and develop her legal career? In fact, I'm going to wrap up this response so I can start getting dinner ready. I like to have it ready to go on the table when she gets home. ;-). --Natan nparadis@pennsas.upenn.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 16:22:40 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Mary Kay Schleiter Subject: LA in the Classroom I am interested in hearing how other people have incorporated analyses of the events in Los Angeles in their teaching. I am teaching a course entitled "Class, Status, and Power." We spent the class period today discussing the situation from the perspective of the changing class structure, the concentration effects of inner city isolation, the feminization of kinship, and the loss of legitimacy of the social system, among other things. Following class, a number of students organized a campus-wide nonviolent protest. I urge everyone to spend class time focusing on these events. Students came up after class and thanked me, saying that few of their other instructors had mentioned it, even in a class that discussed the Chicago riots of the 1920s. One student was particularly upset that her instructor in Gender and Society (a part-time instructor) announced last night that she would not have time to cover "the chapter on women of color." Mary Kay Schleiter mks@cs.uwp.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 14:34:00 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Pegueros@HISTR.SSCNET.UCLA.EDU Subject: Flaming Natan I don't see how Natan was particularly possessive or offensively so. We all take pride in the accomplishments of our spouses, lovers/partners, children. To say "I am so proud of her" is not the same as Torvid's delight in Nora's dancing the Tarantella. Consider the source--a male colleague whose feminism is at least partly evidenced by his participation on this list. A strong femal attorney--not a "Doll" performing for the delight of her proprietary husband. Come on, folks. Let's not be so hard on each other! The *REAL* enemy is out there. Rosie PEGUEROS@HISTR.SSCNET.UCLA.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 16:50:17 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Antje Wiener Subject: Re: sexist lang. in legal writing In-Reply-To: <9205011952.AA18731.18731@alfred.ccs.carleton.ca>; from "Jo Ellen Green Kaiser" at May 1, 92 3:46 pm re: "unhelpfully flaming" men from: Antje Wiener There was not intention of my part to "flame" anybody. I simply wanted to call people's attention towards the fact that in order to inform us (the subscribers of wmst-l) about Donna's action, it was not necessary to claim her as someone's "wife". It is the positioning of an actor which comes into play here, and I think it is quite valid to think about how to position somebody when we talk about her in the first place. In this case, the relationship was not necessary to appreciate the fact. So, my comment was meant to such references. I think we all need to recall every now and again how we relate ourselves to "others", how we word messages. Why, by the way, did N. not write "I am the husband of", in case he considered that important? I do not know, how the term "flaming" was brought in here, to me (I am a native German speaker with English as my 3rd language) this sounds a little tough. awiener@ccs.carleton.ca ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 17:04:32 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: carole marmell Subject: Re: how/does one respond to a flame? In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 1 May 1992 16:34:35 EST from Antje Wiener may have a valid point in that the relationship is not relevant to the achievement. But it was expressed with such a heavy load of judgment that the point was lost. I would like Natan to look at a flame as the problem of the flamer. It's not your responsibility to know ahead of time what pushes someone's buttons, although it is for you to hear them when they tell you (reasonably). Carole Marmell socwlr @ uhupvm1 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 15:33:52 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: allen@SONOMA.EDU Subject: NEH I am passing along some information I received recently that I found particularly disturbing. I will be quoting parts of a letter from Paul Lauter. "The Bush administration has taken yet another step (surprise!) in its campaign to pack federal agency governing boards, like the Supreme Court, with conservative ideologues. It has nominated eight persons for six-year terms on the Council or the National Endowment of the Humanities. Of these, at least four are members of the right-wing National Association of Scholars (NAS)....We are calling for the establishment of an independent commission to investigate the packing of the NEH Council and its review committees....In the meantime we are asking that the nominations be tabled. ACTIONS NEEDED: Write, fax, or call members of the Senate committee charged with responsibility for the nominations and oversight of the Endowment....We suggest that you not use institutional stationary--that is being used against people. But mention your affiliation and work. Sendany information about NEH proposals inexplicably turned down to: Union of Democratic Intellectuals, c/o Ph.D. Program in Sociology, CUNY Graduate Center, 33 West 42nd St., New York, NY 10036. Members of the Senate Committee are: Edward Kennedy (D, MA), Claiborne Pell (D, RI), Howard Metzenbaum (D, OH), Christopher J. Dodd (D, CT), Paul Simon (D, IL), Tom Harkin (D, IA), Brock Adams (D, WA), Barbara Mikulski (D, MD), Jeff Bingaman (D, NM), Paul David Wellstone (D, MN), Orrin Hatch (R, UT), Nancy L. Kassebaum (R, KS), James M. Jeffords (R, VT), Dan Coats (R, IN), Strom Thurmond (R, SC), Dave Durenberger (R, MN), Thad Cochran (R, MS)." If you wish to have the entire letter, write to the UDI address. Julie allen@sonoma.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 15:54:42 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: jo hinchliffe Subject: WMST advisory committees The following response to the question about organizing women's studies is from Tannis MacBeth Williams who is the coordinator of the Women's Studies program at the University of British Columbia. ---(Forwarded from: Tannis.MacBeth.Williams@mtsg.ubc.ca, Dated: Thu, 30 Apr 92 18:22:42 PDT)--- Return-path: Received: from mtsg.ubc.ca by mtsa.ubc.ca via MTS-Net; Thu, 30 Apr 92 18:23:04 P Date: Thu, 30 Apr 92 18:22:42 PDT From: Tannis.MacBeth.Williams@mtsg.ubc.ca To: jo.hinchliffe@mtsa.ubc.ca Message-ID: <3754492@mtsg.ubc.ca> I'm coordinator of Women's Studies undergraduate programme at University of British Columbia. We have a major and are not a department. Members of the WOmen's Studies Coordinating Committee (decision making body re curriculum, transfer credit, essentially everything) are appointed by the Associate Dean of Arts for Interdisciplinary Programmes, following close consultation with the Coordinator. Essentially, our committee makes suggestions which I discuss with her and we then agree on whom to ask to sit on the committee. I have veto power if she makes a suggestion (and if it's not someone the committee suggested first, then I take it to the committee for their reaction) and she also has veto power for our suggestions - seldom occurs but occasionally if she intends to ask someone we've suggested to do some other time-consuming committee work. Even prior to having a symapthetic feminist Asoc Dean doing the appointements, I insisted to the previous men responsible that a) our committee had to have major input and veto power (didn't call it that, but if he suggested someone we found unacceptable I just said no and we proceeded to try to find someone else we both found acceptable). there has always been a man on the committee, and this year, the first of our major, wehn we knew there would be a lot of work so have a large committee of 10, we have two men. They of course are carefully selected, too. The make-up of the committee is crucial and you are right to be leery. Sometimes I find it helps just to say that one aspect of feminist scholarship is to operate collectively and so the committee has to be involved in all decisions except very minor ones. The membership of the committee is major not minor. Men recognize when they are out of their depth and usually accept that explanation. For all of this to work, the coordinator and committee has to avoid proposing people who are known to be complete anathema to the Dean (or whomever), and try to have as many people as possible whom they respect as scholars. For us over the years this has meant that one or two people whom we might find helpful don't ever sit one the committee, but we've never had to put up with bad ones and this seems a fair exchange. Let me know if you have further questions. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 22:55:54 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Carole Farber Subject: New Name for Faculty Women's Club?? In-Reply-To: note of Fri, 1 May 1992 11:27:17 EST from Marsha Miller At The University of Western Ontario, London, Ont. we do have a number of groups. A University Women's group, which is mostly faculty wives, etc. but most importantly, for the past 12 years, we have had a wonderful inter- employee women's group dealing with myriad issues called Western's Caucus on Women's Issues -- we deal with everything from Women's Safety on Campus, Employment and Pay Equity, Mentoring for Promotion and Tenure, the new anti- feminist strategies, etc.etc. Anyway -- maybe this is of interest. ssccmf@uwocc1.uwo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 May 1992 10:49:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: DD069@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Subject: George Egerton I am researching George Egerton (Mary Chavelita Bright), an Australian writer of the turn of the century, author of such works as KEYNOTES, DISCORDS, SYMPHONIES. I would appreciate any information you may wish to share about this author. Thanks, Diva Daims ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 May 1992 13:21:37 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: ethel tobach Subject: Re: how/does one respond to a flame? In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 1 May 1992 16:34:35 EST from Natan should be supported and encouraged to share with us the victories that he has seen and helped to achieve. Women need as many allies as they can garner...so we are not all perfect. How many of us European women still make mistakes in trying to understand and be allies in the struggle of women and people of color? Should we stop? Should we not delight in measures of success? I donot intend the following to be understood as equating the struggle for feminist principles with the struggles of the African-American people today, but I see a thread of a continuous process here. The out- rage in the case of the acquittal of the LA police and the subsequent outpouring of violent anger and mayhem reflect the complexity of the results of racism breeding violence, in all directions. The continuous thread is the appropriate outrage of women today against the attacks of those in power against them taking the form of hitting out at all the signs and symbols of that attack...but we must see the discontinuities ...the differences...and make for unity against our real enemies. As a white-haired participant of the April 5 demonstration in Washington, I delighted in the young, the many men, the many people with children... The only ones who benefit when we fight among ourselves are our enemies. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 May 1992 14:15:11 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jo Ellen Green Kaiser Subject: Re: LA in the Classroom In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 1 May 1992 16:22:40 -0500 from I think we have an obligation to connect the events of this past week to our classes if the content of our classes concerns 1. American 20th politics or 2. race. I think it would promote useful discussions in other classes as well. I was teaching Audre Lorde last week, and used the LA riots to explore the source of black anger in America (I should say sources) jgkais00@ukcc.uky.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 May 1992 13:22:12 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Andrea H. Swank" Subject: Re: how/does one respond to a flame? In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 1 May 1992 16:34:35 EST from Natan, you have admirably and eloquently summed up not only the difficulties in -language- that we are all working with on this list, but the difficulties in putting such effort into practice. How does an enlightened person begin to institute the changes in systems so far entrenched in patriarchal systems? As I have learned on this list, a major part of any Women's Studies dept. is learning how to work with/against/in the existing bureaucracy--and of course, this all begins with individuals. It takes an enormous amount of energy to calmly and strategically (war metaphor here, sorry) remantle systems that support only a tiny and priveleged part of our society--and it takes loving and supportive individuals to support such pioneers. Such are the dynamics, clearly, between you and Donna. Be well & fight the good fight. --Andrea Swank ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 May 1992 19:17:00 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Morton@SOC.SSCNET.UCLA.EDU Subject: UCLA reaction to LA rebellions Hello everyone, In response to a query on what to say in classrooms about LA, I thought I'd share with you some official memos from UCLA administration officials to show you what's happening on THAT level. UCLA was closed Friday, May 1. One comment about what to say...from my perspective as a graduate student in sociology... the media have definitely played a major role in defining what has happened (no surprise there). But I think this point needs to be stressed, especially to your average college student. The moral outrage and individualization of what has happened does not necessarily reflect the reality. The following days and weeks will see a battle of meaning played out in the media and in electoral politics. We need to stress that the looting was not just an African American phenomena, it was not just south central LA, it was not just gang members/thugs. Looting occurred in many areas, by many ethnicities. One probation officer reported seeing guys with yarmulkes looting! It occurred all over LA. We need to recognize that the structural injustices which have been adding up over the years are the causes of this, not just the King verdict, not just the Latasha Harlins matter (the 15 yo girl shot in the back by a Korean store owner who was only given probation for the killing). The media and the right wing have already shown signs of wanting to make this a matter of individual psychology/pathology. This is being used as an excuse by George to show once again he is not a wimp. I went out today to help clean up and join the peaceful protesters. It is a scary sight to see soldiers armed with automatic rifles in the streets of a u.s. city. But now that the soldiers are here, the media is drawing back. We need to ask why aren't they monitoring the soldiers as much as they did the looters? 11 of the 40 people killed so far were killed by the cops. Sorry to take up so much space. It's a tense time. All that follows is the official memoranda by UCLA administration. ================ Subject: Statement by UCLA Chancellor Young concerning April 29 Violence in LA I empathize with the understandable outrage that members of the Los Angeles and UCLA communities are feeling as a result of the Rodney King beating case, especially when viewed in the context of other incidents that many believe show societal indifference to African Americans and other ethnic groups. I also wish to express my concern for the innocent residents of Los Angeles- area communities that have been victimized by the violence which has resulted. The tragic events of last evening have caused anxiety for many members of our campus community. A series of incidents occurred in Westwood Village, including some looting of stores, but only minor incidents have been reported on campus. I want to reassure students, faculty and staff that the campus is open, and classes and activities are proceeding. To the extent that some members of the UCLA community may be unable to get to campus or to perform their regular duties as a result of these events, I ask departments and units to show flexibility and understanding. I have requested faculty, where appropriate, to discuss in classes the response to the King decision and related events of concern to students. I have also requested faculty, where appropriate, to excuse students from classes today and friday to permit them to attend rallies, conferences and teach-ins addressing these events. In the longer term, I have decided to implement the following measures: (1) With assistance from my office, the Academic Senate and student leadership will be working to organize panels of faculty and other experts to discuss the King case and resulting events; (2) We will make available to students and faculty places on campus where discussions regarding these events can take place; (3) We will assure that our student and staff and faculty counseling services are responsive to those who may need assistance during these stressful times. I urge all members of our campus community to act responsibly in expressing their views on these recent developments. =================== Here is a message from UCLA Physical Sciences Dean Clarence Hall: We have just concluded the meeting with the Chancellor and all deans. 1. The campus will not be sealed. However, owing to the legal ramifications of a curfew, no faculty, staff, or students can be required to stay on campus--see below. 2. Special precautions should be taken in special areas of concern. For example, Chair Houk may wish to ask for addtional police patrols because of the potentially lethal contents of the building and threat to sensitive experiments. 3. Those faculty and students staying on campus, monitoring experiments for example, should have issued to them a letter signed by the Chair. The letter should state the reason for their need to be on campus after hours. This letter can be presented to police should they be stopped on their way home or returning during early morning hours to campus. 4. It has not been decided if classes will be cancelled for Friday. There is a 50-50 chance that they will be--more info to follow. Cancellation of campus events on Friday night and weekend still up in the air. 5. Special precautions are being taken to protect the library and its holdings. 6. Emergency personnel from the hospital have the appropriate identification--regarding curfew. 7. All campus police vacation and off-time cancelled. All community service workers will act as police and patrols. UCLA campus currently one of the least effected campuses of UC regarding civil disturbance. No other UC campuses can send Police units to any other campus. Two campus police units at Riverside have been overturned and burned. A (or more than one) rally on UCLA campus is underway. 8. Dean of Law School has noted that Civil Rights unit of US Attorney General Office has ordered a re-opening of the case, and has given top priority to an investigation. Students should be made aware of this fact--stressing that there is a proper and effective way for seeking redress. 9. Departments are urged to determine if any of their students are homeless or because of the dangers can not return home. Departments should facilitate finding housing for these individuals with faculty, staff, and other students. Stress levels amongst students and staff are running high. Dean of Law suggests that minorities (all) are concerned with the seeming breakdown of the legal system. Please urge your faculty to take whatever steps they can to communicate with students, fellow faculty, and staff regarding their support. Note again, many deans are reporting a high anxiety level amongst non-academic staff in their departments. ============================ Please note the time of this message - 3:35 PM Thursday afternoon. UCLA Campus Community: I have just spoken with Mayor Tom Bradley's office concerning his call for a citywide curfew today at dusk (7:36 p.m.). The Mayor's office has informed me that the curfew is intended to discourage loitering and the gathering of crowds on city streets and that individuals engaged in normal, lawful and non-threatening activities or travel will not be in jeopardy of arrest. Regularly scheduled events are being permitted to proceed and, in fact, are encouraged. Therefore, the UCLA campus will not be closed, and normal educational activities will proceed. Organizers and sponsors of public events should make their own determinations as to whether they wish to proceed with scheduled activities. Consistent with my earlier statement today, faculty and supervisory staff should show flexibility and understanding with regard to any special circumstances and concerns of students and employees. Employees engaged in nonessential services who express a desire to leave campus before normal departure time should be permitted to do so whenever possible. Charles E. Young Chancellor 4/30/92 3:00 p.m. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 May 1992 22:46:01 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Frances Wasserlein Subject: OutRights/Les Droits Visibles I'm sending the following to this list in the hope it will receive wide distribution in Canada and elsewhere. Please send it to others. Be sure to address your enquiries to the address below, not to me, and not to the list. Thanks. OutRights/Les Droits Visibles, the second pan-Canadian conference on lesbian and gay rights will be held in Vancouver British Columbia on October 9, 10 and 11, 1992. The conference will be a participatory forum where lesbians and gay men from coast to coast [in Canada] can exchange inforamtion and develop strategies--political, organizational, legal--to take us into the future. There are six preliminary themes for the conference: AIDS/HIV and the Law, Are We Family?; Lesbians and Gays in Law; Combatting Homophobia; Mobilizing our Communities, and Strategies for Lesbian and Gay Rights. Topics to be addressed over the weekend include custody, immigration, spousal benefits, issues for Native gays and lesbians, coalition building, trade union organizing for lesbian and gay rights, domestic partnerships, organizing by lesbians and gays of colour, community education, anti-racist work, lesbian and gay studies, using the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and many more. There will also be a number of exciting cultural events on the conference program. Registration fees for OutRights/Les Droits Visible will be set on a sliding scale. All events will be wheelchair accessible, and childcare will be provided. Simultaneous translation into French and English and signing in ASL will be available at as many sessions as possible. Details on programming and registration will be available soon. For more information, or to become a publicity contact for your region, call 604 683 4176, fax 604 251 4356 or write to OutRights/Les Droits Visible at 321-1525 Robson Street, Vancouver, BC V6G 1C3. If and wheb you write or phone, mention you saw this notice so the organizers can gauge the effectiveness of this posting. Thanks again. Frances_Wasserlein@sfu.ca ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 May 1992 11:46:00 MDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: LHAMPLYONS@CUDENVER.BITNET Subject: RE: parenthood and tenure As a Briton, it has always seemed to me that Americans put their focus in the wrong place on this issue. When my second son was born in UK (18 years after the first, when I was wholly status-less!) I had 26 weeks of leave on what averaged to 80% pay. I took about 14 weeks before the birth: I made a great deal of progress on scholarly work in those weeks; almost a sabbatical. I got less done afterwards in the remaining weeks at home but still more than being at work. That year was a year of equal or greater progress than other years. I see stopping/slowing the tenure clock as a sacrifice a woman scholar seems to have to make, and that I don't think she should. Better to change the system to enable women to progress AND society to reproduce. (Now that my son is 7 I'd like to slow the pre-full professor clock so that I could spend more time with him; the system forgets that children (maybe boys more than girls) have other needy times than immediately post-birth.) Liz Hamp-Lyons LHAMPLYONS@CUDENVER ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 May 1992 11:58:00 MDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: LHAMPLYONS@CUDENVER.BITNET Subject: RE: sexist lang. in legal writing Antje- jeez! the man turned to WMST-L for help and he gets a Grade A flame: I'd like to hear YOUR notion of educating men to respect and value women's languageL Liz Hamp-Lyons LHAMPLYONS@CUDENVER ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 May 1992 12:19:19 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: cliff staples Subject: Re: Union of Democratic Intellectuals In-Reply-To: Message of Sat, 2 May 1992 22:46:01 PDT from To Everyone on the Net: A few days ago I recieved the following letter, membership application, and statement of principles from the Organizing Committee for a Union of Democratic Intellectuals via snail mail. I haven't seen it appear on any of the lists to which I subscribe, so I thought I'd make it available to all who might be interested. I have a feeling many of you will be heartened to hear of the formation of the UDI. I was. My guess is many of you will join, and will start planning to form your own local chapter. I am. I AM POSTING THIS TO THE FOLLOWING LISTS: MAIL-MEN; WMST-L; QUALRS-L; PMC-TALK; GENDER; I ENCOURAGE YOU TO PASS IT ALONG TO OTHER LISTS NOT MENTIONED ABOVE. regards, Cliff Staples ud153289@ndsuvm1 ________________________________________________________________ Organizing Committee for a Union of Democratic Intellectuals Ph.D. Program in Sociology, CUNY Graduate Center 33 W. 42nd St., New York, NY 10036 April 22, 1992 Dear Friends and Colleagues: The conservative attack on democratic culture has reached a fever pitch. From the Mapplethorpe case to the Bush Adminstration's firing of John Frohnmayer, from the conservative attacks on "political correctness" to the University of Minnesota administration's decision to abolish the Humanities department, we have been treated to an object lesson in contemporary doublethink. Even as repression of artistic and intellectual expression has become more intense, the right wraps itself in the mantle of Freedom. At the same time, university administrations use budget cuts to justify eradicating the major gains of the past twenty years: diversity in programs and curriculum and open admissions policies that brought tens of thousands of women, African Americans, Latinos and Asians into colleges and universities. Similar political reaction aims to thwart the gradual opening of some media outlets to new voices, as well as the partial cracking of elitist culture that has dominated the art world, the music industry and print journalism. For the bare fact is that while the popular, political left suffered major setbacks in the 1980's, cultural democracy has made significant inroads into some major institutions such as the university and the media. Today, we are witnessing a massive counterattack from the right that aims at nothing less than silence. The organizing committee for the Union of Democratic Intellectuals has set for itself the task of bringing together teachers, artists, students, writers, editors, and others who do intellectual work to actively oppose the program of silencing and repression, but also to provide and active voice for resuming efforts to democratize our culture. UDI is a grassroots effort to gather intellectuals in local chapters as well as nationally. We have already begun to work with other groups to provide a forum for militant opposition to the right and conservative counterattacks on democratic culture, and to foster discussion on the development of affirmative alternatives. In addition, we have enclosed (see below) the Draft Statement of principles and a list of members of the organizing committee. If you agree that the time is overdue to speak out and that we need a _permanent_ organization of democratic intellectuals in _all_ major cultural sites, please fill out the attached membership form and send it in right away. Then form a chapter in your city, area or campus and join hundreds of us who have waited long enough. Stanley Aronowitz, for the Organizing Committee __________________________________________________________________ November 23 Organizing Committee for a Union of Democratic Intellectuals: Stanley Aronowitz, Sociology, CUNY Graduate Ctr., Larry Badendyck, English, Nassau Community College, Linda Brodkey, English, Univ. of Texas, William DiFazio, Sociology, St. John's Univ., Mario Di Gangi, English, Columbia Univ., Pamela Donovan, graduate student, Sociology, CUNY Graduate Ctr., Susan Douglas, Communications and Cognitive Science, Hampshire College, C.K. Edel, Urban Studies, Queens College, Richard Flacks, Sociology, Univ. of Calif.- Santa Barbara, Richard Goldstein, _Village Voice_, Lawrence Grossberg, Speech Communication, Univ. of Illinois-Urbana, Dorothy Heard, Rutgers Graduate School of Education, Patrick Horrigan, graduate student, English, Columbia Univ., Irene Kacandes, Germanic Languages, Univ. of Texas, Frank Kirkland, Philosophy, Hunter College, Agustin Lao, Cultural Studies, CUNY Graduate Ctr., Paul Lauter, English, Trinity College, Michael Lewis, graduate student, Sociology, CUNY Graduate Ctr., Maria Milagros Lopez, Psychology, Univ. of Puerto Rico, Wahneema Lubiano, English, Princeton Univ., Jane Marcus, Women's Studies, CUNY Graduate Ctr., Susan O'Malley, English, Kingsborough Community College, Pat Mann, Philosophy, City College of New York, Jay Mazur, graduate student, CUNY Graduate Ctr., Kim Paice, graduate student, Art History, CUNY Graduate Ctr., Joan Parkin, graduate student, Comparative Literature, CUNY Graduate Ctr., Dana Polan, English, Univ. of Pittsburgh, Elayne Rapping, Media Studies, Adelphi Univ., David Robinson, Cultural Studies, CUNY Graduate Ctr., Bruce Robbins, English, Rutgers Univ., Cynthia Rodriguez, Brooklyn, New York, Andrew Ross, English, Princeton Univ., Michael Rothberg, graduate student, Comparative Literature, CUNY Graduate Ctr., Mary Russo, Cultural Studies, Hampshire College, Sohnya Sayres, English, Cooper Union, Ellen Schrecker, History, Yeshiva Univ., Scott Sensenig, graduate student, Liberal Studies, CUNY Graduate Ctr., Ann Snitow, English, New School for Social Research, Florence Tager, Education, Medgar Evers College, Ellen Willis, Journalism, New York Univ., Ron Winley, graduate student, Philosophy, CUNY Graduate Ctr., George Yudice, Spanish, Hunter College __________________________________________________________________ Membership Card Organizing Committee for a Union of Democratic Intellectuals Ph.D. Program in Sociology, CUNY Graduate Center 33 W. 42nd St., New York, NY 10036 (212) 642-2428 NAME_______________________________________ ADDRESS___________________________________________________________ CITY/STATE/ZIP____________________________________________________ AFFILIATION_______________________________________________________ _____Annual Membership ($25) ______Sustaining Membership ($50) _______ Student/Low-Income/Unemployed ($10) please make checks payable to Union of Democratic Intellectuals __________________________________________________________________ DRAFT STATEMENT OF THE ORGANIZING COMMITTEE FOR A UNION OF DEMOCRATIC INTELLECTUALS We come together, in shared commitment to democratizing culture and society, as teachers and students, writers and editors, artisits and scholars and others who do intellectual work. In calling ourselves intellectuals, we identify with a long tradition of independent, critical, and politically engaged thinking. Like our predecessors we understand the complex connection between ideas and action. Like them we see our role not as serving but as speaking truth to power. In calling ourselves democratic, we affirm a radical vision of society based on the free and equal participation of all people in every area of social life. beginning in the 1960's, movements for political, cultural, and sexual freedom and empowerment have reshaped the institutions in which we work -- in education, in media, the arts -- into centers for democratic ferment and change. We have fought to open our institutions to a broader and more diverse group of people. We have raised new social and political questions. We have violated taboos on controversial and disturbing images. We have introduced new forms of knowledge and areas of study that transcend established academic disciplines. Above all, we have consistently questioned how our institutions function, for whose benefit, and to what social ends. Our efforts have played an important role in challenging the elitism, bigotry, and repressive moralism of the dominant culture. Today, these achievements are under ferocious attack. As conservatives won national power, we continued to defend our advances and even to extend them. But now, as our very success in resisting the right has made us a prime target. In conservative newspeak, demands for equality and support for cultural diversity become "reverse discrimination" that oppresses white men; recognizing that ideas and images have a political dimension is "politicizing" the university and the arts. Artistic innovations, curricular changes, or philosophical perspectives that deviate from the classical cannons of Western humanism are denounced as abdications of standards and a descent into barbarism. And the campaign against "political correctness," which claims to defend freedom of thought against a supposed tyranny of the left, actually seeks to limit debate by stifling criticism of racism, sexism, homophobia and cultural conformity. Linking the particulars of the rights cultural agenda is a common theme: hatred and fear of democracy. It is time to confront this hatred and fear by launching a movement for democratic cultural change. We found this movement on the following principles: _We are multiculturalists_. In an increasingly heterogeneous society, only a polyglot culture that accepts and appreciates the variety of human experience can be truly democratic. We therefore reject a false universalism that seeks to impose a semblance of unity by obliterating difference or ignoring the imbalances of power among groups in our society. Similarly, we condemn assertions of difference that aim to dominate or dehumanize people, enforce conformity to restrictive cultural identities, or avoid principled criticism. We seek a multicultural education, whose content and approaches to teaching embody these concerns, as the crucial first step toward a democratic, multicultural politics. _We demand access to and full participation in educational and cultural institutions for people of all social groups_. We will press for admissions and hiring policies and financial and social supports that make such goals possible, while opposing budget cuts and tuition increases that undermine them. We will challenge racist, sexist, homophobic, and anti-semitic violence and intimidation wherever they appear, as well as all institutional policies and informal practices that reinforce the domination or exclusion of any group. _We support free expression and uninhibited debate_. We will oppose all attempts to limit free speech and academic freedom -- on any grounds -- and all efforts to restrict the flow of information, ideas, and images -- whether through overt censorship, profit-minded decisions of arts or entertainment conglomerates, the privatization of scientific information, or the use of concepts like "responsible opinion" and "good taste" to limit dissidents' access to public forums. We are committed to self- questioning, self-criticism, and open, public debate among ourselves, and on this point we refuse to let our opponents rewrite history: before the current campaign, "political correctness" was _our_ term --- democratic radicals' ironic use of old left jargon to comment on dogmatism within our own social movements. _We oppose discrimination against political and cultural dissidents_. We will combat biased academic hiring, firing, and tenure decisions, political pressure to stifle curricular innovations, politically restrictive criteria for government grants, and the packing of public educational and cultural agencies with right-wing ideologues. We condemn the government's efforts to force recipients of federal funds -- whether artists or birth- control providers -- to give up their First Amendment rights. _We challenge basic assumptions about education_. While traditionalists see education as the reverential transmission of a body of authoritative knowledge, such as "the great books," we view it as a process of generating new knowledge by critically examining our cultural heritage and questioning the values and power relations that shape all forms of intellectual activity. We question the institutional, hierarchical structures of knowledge: the sanctity of the canon, the distinction between "high art" and popular culture, the division of knowledge into rigid academic disciplines, and the supposed neutrality of science, scholarship, and criticism. _We are alarmed about the new directions schools and colleges are taking_. Today's educational institutions are under pressure to train a technically sophisticated and politically docile work force. Increasingly, education is starved of public money and resources while institutional priorities are set by multinational corporations and government elites. teachers are regarded not as scholars and intellectuals but as overworked, underpaid cogs in knowledge machines. We will analyze and contest these dangerous changes in our educational institutions, their efforts to stratify and channel students, and their subservience to centers of economic and political power. As we form this union, we recognize that we are not alone in defending democratic principles and opposing the right's attacks. Many such groups, local and national, have come to life in recent months; they represent, we believe, a turning of the political tide. We call on our colleagues and friends to join us in adding our collective strength to this new democratic wave. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 May 1992 15:50:41 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Allan Hunter Subject: Antje's diatribe / men in feminism / feminists affecting men In-Reply-To: Message of Sun, 3 May 1992 11:58:00 MDT from I would like to speak 43 % on behalf of Antje Werner's position, altho not of Antje herself (& I have this inclination to think that being de- fended by a man wouldn't be on her political wish list if you know what I mean? so this is NOT about HER...) -- Consider that this is a Women's Studies list; and that Women's Studies is considered to be different from the patriarchal Study of Women (by men, who were always the Ones Who Study): WS is women studying, and it tends to focus on women studying women, although not exclusively (men are considered valid subjects for women to study from their own point of view, which changes the view of men). Okay, I think part of what Antje was driving at was that men's participation is invariably the partici- pation of men who have had men's experiences and those experiences make what we see and how we interpret it different...and problematic for the WS enterprise of "What would you get if you started studying the world from women's perspective and out of women's experience instead?" If I have misconstrued her meaning, it is nevertheless a common feminist con- cern about men within feminism, within feminist theory courses, and on this list, I think. Having said that...here's the 57 % or so of what I have to say that is not supportive of that position, plus the bottom line if there is one (as I see it, of course)-- WS has been allowed, if just barely, into the academic setting in a way that "Feminist Theory, Tactics, and Implemen- tation" most likely would not have been; in other words, I'll bet even the most cautiously construed Women's Studies program is often accused of being a political program rather than an academic field of study. But feminism itself tends to deny the validity of that split: in other words, LET'S HOPE THEY ARE RIGHT AND THAT WOMEN'S STUDIES IS FEMINIST PRACTICE as well as, or as that which includes, the study by women of women and the world in which they live. Well, what that happens to have to do with men on the list, in feminism, and so forth is that the responsibility for ending patriarchy is mine, because I am in and of it and my activities and interactions can either help maintain it, engage it critically, end it, etc...and, in fact, I'm sure that at various times and in various ways mine do a little of both. As a man it would be awfully hard to avoid participating in things that maintain my own social location as privileged, whereas figuring out how to be a femin- ist (if we still call it that when it's a male's participatory activ- ities we're referring to) or a whatchamacallme (if we don't call it that) who's doing or trying to do effective things to end patriar- chy is not easy or obvious. NOT LISTENING to women sounds like a bad idea. Listening as a non-participant and obeying direct instructions without trying to figure things out on my own also sounds like a bad idea (then women are still taking responsibility for men's responsi- bilities). Well, it seems to me that in any feminist forum it would be useful to have separatist spaces that privilege women's voices, and to have other spaces that are clearly not separatist and in which the usefulness of engaging us menfolk, asking us to take feminist theory seriously, and respond back to you thoughtfully and as responsible participants is assumed. I don't even know about that, because maybe there is much to be gained by the ambivalence of having men located as participants-but-not-really, to semi-marginalize us. But I do think that such specialization would occasionally make sense. How do you construct issues of separatism / men's participation and so forth in your classrooms? Do you think that the current confused and ambivalent concern about "Gender Studies" versus men in "Women's Studies" versus men ignoring and not being in ANY version of such things is a healthy and useful ambivalence, or should we try to re- concile it in theory and practice? Would specializing the forums as I mentioned be good by clarifying, or bad by dividing up a process that might be better left unified? And are any of these issues in some way reconcilable for purposes of this list so as to lessen the likelihood of tensions when one person's sense and expression of anger at male over-participation is another person's sense that a man who is trying to work with women against patriarchy has been un- duly flamed? (It is even decently likely that some folks could be annoyed that I am asking you to direct your attention to these matters, because once again here's a man whose posting could be viewed as a deflection of female attention from where it might otherwise be going. Please don't hate me personally for that; I get your point...) - allan hunter ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 May 1992 17:07:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: KRUSE@XAVIER.BITNET Subject: responding to flames/LA in the classroom I'm responding most directly to Andrea Swank's question, "How does an enlightened person begin to institute the changes in systems so far entrenched in patriarchal systems?" But I'm considering this question in the context of the self-critical process I've engaged in in light of the LA rebellion. Coincidentally, this was the week I had slated to discuss Malcolm X in my ethics class (on the heels of Thoreau, King, and Beauvoir's *The Ethics of Ambiguity*) *and* multicultural issues in my feminist theory class. (The feminism class is a philosophy core elective and most of the students in it have no exposure to feminist thought, and about half the class is there simply to fulfill the requirement, not out of any real interest in feminist theory. So please no flames about how I don't spend *more* time on feminism and multiculturalism. It takes long enough to get these overwhelmingly white, suburban, Catholic students to understand how feminist critique is relevant to their lives and practices.) Given the demographic makeup of my classes, I found it imperative to emphasize how it is incumbent upon us as white, mostly middle- and upper-middle class members of a structurally racist culture to become sensitized to and reflect upon the ways in which we contribute to and participate in racist attitudes and practices (often unconsciously) simply because racism is so deeply rooted in our culture. I found that it was very important to stress that *I* was implicated in this as much as the white students I was addressing. If I hadn't done this, the message would have failed to get across at all (it was difficult enough as it was), so I had rhetorical reasons for doing it. But I had ethical reasons as well, and this is where the issue of admitting men into feminist discourse comes in. After an explosive 8:30 A.M. ethics class (in which one of my few African American students had spoken courageously to a class full of white students, many of whom were quite defensive, about the pain he feels at being objectified as an instant criminal suspect on campus and elsewhere simply for being a Black male), I turned to preparation for the feminism class. And I realized the extent to which I had postured myself as an *insider* all semester in the feminism class, and how different that experience was from my struggle that morning to engage in discourse as a sympathetic outsider (further complicated by my position of power/ privilege as teacher of the class), and what a tremendous amount of emotional energy it had taken to try to "do the right thing" as well as I could as a white woman, a white product of a deeply racist culture, and an instructor with a power advantage in the classroom situation. I also became aware (finally!) that my position in the feminist theory course was not critically unproblematic, either. I have a lot to sort out here, and I expect it to take a long, long time, but I think I've learned a couple of lessons worth sharing with the list. In the first place, it's entirely understand- able why we as women are suspicious of men who seem to be sympathetic, just as it's entirely understandably why women of color would be suspicious of white feminists, lesbians would be suspicious of hetero feminist discourse and framing, etc. No outsider can *ever* have an insider's understanding of the insider's oppression, and the outsider's understanding will *always* be limited by this. And at least some of these limitations are highly significant. But on the other hand, I'm also learning, as a white person, how very difficult it is (and yet how ethically and humanly imperative it is) to face squarely the fact that as a white person produced, constructed, and conditioned by a white supremacist culture, my own attitudes and practices must almost inevitably somewhere, somehow, be unconsciously racist. The process of weeding those attitudes and practices out is a lifetime one, and it's not easy. (One thing that I've discovered adds to the difficulty, but is also necessary, is that I can't ask for premature absolution--or any kind of absolution, for that matter--from the Black community). And I can't say that I'm thrilled about having been born and raised into a culture that demands this sort of hard work and self-criticism. But I believe it to be a moral imperative. I imagine that the position of sympathetic men vis-a-vis feminism must be similar in some ways. As a result of what I've gone through over the last days, I think I've gained an appreciation of the difficulties that men sympathetic to feminism must go through. I've always supported inclusion as opposed to separatism (although qualified by the fact that men *do* have to establish that they're serious about recognizing boundaries and not co-opting feminism--inclusivism doesn't have to be critically naive!). But now I understand a little better what a *committed* sympathetic outsider must have to go through. So let's not be too hard on Nathaniel Paradise. It's certainly necessary to be cautious when members of relatively privileged groups want to enter into dialogue with us. But caution and premature dismissal are two different things. And I think it pays for us to remember that in different discourses, the shoe may be on the other foot for some of us--we may find ourselves relatively privileged by reason of our class, race, sexual orientation, generation, etc. So keep fighting the good fight, Natan. Felicia Kruse Department of Philosophy Xavier University ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 00:49:08 MST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: ATNFR@ASUACAD.BITNET Subject: Re: Psychology of Women texts/resources In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 27 Apr 1992 15:58:40 EDT from The December issue of the Psychology of Women Quarterly has a bunch of articles that would be useful, particularly ones by Bernice Lott and Lillian Comas Diaz. Nancy Felipe Russo, Ph.D. Director, Women's Studies ASU, Tempe, AZ 85287-1801 (602)965-2358 FAX:(602)965-2357 BITNET: ATNFR@ASUACAD ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 10:08:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: JDMANDLE@COLGATEU.BITNET Subject: women and social policy I need suggestions for locating recent discussions of social policy affecting women in the United States. Colgate students are interning in social a gencies which serve women. I would like to offer them some materials which could provide them with a broad perspective on women and social change/ social policy. Thanks for your help. Joan Mandle Director of Women's Studies, Colgate University jdmandle@colgate ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 10:31:52 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: viveka von rosen u Subject: Re: women and social policy no didn't recieve previous messages. maybe "r" doesn't work or maybe its the only thing that works v ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 11:51:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: KBECKWITH@WOOSTER.BITNET Subject: Re: Antje's diatribe / men in feminism / feminists affecting men I find it interesting and disheartening that today--as I scroll through my messages on WMST list, there is more participation--in terms of numbers of persons, length of messages, and seriousness of discourse (at least intended by the authors) about what one man has said in one sentence about his wife, an attorney, than there has been about the jury's decision in the trial of the LA police officers and the subsequent riots in LA. If this is a representation of the balance of concerns of women's studies scholars, then Women's Studies and the feminist movement as represented in the academy are serious difficulty. Neither intellectual nor political change can be brought about in universities or in the nation with this type and level of apolitical discourse. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 13:00:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: MURPHY@GENESEO.BITNET Subject: Re: women and social policy Sorry, I can't seem to respond directly to Joan Mandle, but here are some sources on women and social policy Mimi Abramovitz, Regulating the Lives of Women: Social Welfare Policy from Colonial Times to the Present, 1991. Mimi Abramovitz, Putting an End to Doublespeak about Race, Gender and Poverty: An annotated Glossary for Social Workers, 36 Social Work 380-384 Sept 1991 Linda Gordon ED. Women the State and Welfare, U Wisc press 1990 Affilia: Journal of Women & Social Work Smart and Smart, Women, Secuality and Social Control, Routledge, Kegan Paul, 1978 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 13:05:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: MURPHY@GENESEO.BITNET Subject: Re: women and social policy Whoops, the previous message was from Pat Murphy Murphy@geneseo. The references are from a syllabi on Women and Social Welfare policy taught at Hunter. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 13:29:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: the focus of WMST-L (yet again) Earlier today, Karen Beckwith complained that there was so little discussion on WMST-L about the jury's decision in the trial of the LA police officers and the subsequent riots in LA. Her message compels me to remind people yet again that such discussion is not the province of WMST-L. Rather than compose a new message, I'll simply quote from one sent to the list only a few weeks ago: > This list is not and cannot be an all-purpose Women's Studies and > women's issues list. Its focus is the academic side of Women's > Studies teaching, research, and program administration. While I agree > emphatically that broader political discussion is relevant to Women's > Studies, there are other electronic forums for that purpose. WMST-L > already has a problem with heavy mail volume just in handling the > messages for which it was established. If it broadened its scope the > way some would like, it would cease to be useful for the many people > who have more limited time and/or e-mail space. > > We've gone over this same ground many times before. WMST-L is not > going to broaden its scope. The User's Guide contains an entire section > devoted to other gender-related lists to which people can subscribe for > discussions of political and social issues. > > Please be considerate of other subscribers whose time and/or e-mail > space may be more limited than yours. If you want messages about the > academic side of Women's Studies, subscribe to WMST-L. If you also want > other sorts of gender-related discussions, subscribe in addition to other > forums that exist for that purpose. That way, everyone can tailor their > subscriptions to their needs. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 13:52:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Freda B. Birnbaum" Subject: Appropriate discussion topics for WMST >I find it interesting and disheartening that ... there is more participation >... about what one man has said in one sentence about his wife, an attorney, >than there has been about the jury's decision in the trial of the LA police >officers and the subsequent riots in LA. ... then Women's Studies and the >feminist movement as represented in the academy are serious difficulty. ... Well, I'm pretty concerned about this situation but the fact is, this list's mandate IS academic women's studies. I'm sure people are expressing their views on other appropriate lists. +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Freda Birnbaum, Sr. Programmer/Analyst Teachers College, Columbia University | | BITNET: BITNET%"FBBIRNBAUM@CUTCV2" 525 W. 120th St., CCIMS, Box 43 | | 212-678-3491 (Eastern time) New York, NY 10027 USA | +------------- Call on God, but row away from the rocks -----------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 13:57:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: RE: women and social policy Earlier today, Joan Mandle wrote: > I need suggestions for locating recent discussions of social > policy affecting women in the United States. Colgate students are > interning in social agencies which serve women. I would like to offer > them some materials which could provide them with a broad perspective > on women and social change/ social policy. Thanks for your help. One work that might prove useful is WOMEN AND SOCIAL WELFARE: A FEMINIST ANALYSIS, by Dorothy C. Miller (New York: Praeger, 1990). Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 16:10:16 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: frenzella elaine de lancey Subject: Re: Appropriate discussion topics for WMST In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 4 May 1992 13:52:00 EDT from Since there seems to be some concern about the appropriateness of bringing in a "worldly" subject as the jury decision in the Rodney King case, why not view it obliquely; that is, why isn't anyone willing to introduce the issue of a female (woman) juror who, according to her comments on recent interviews, said that she believed that the case constituted excessive force; that she went into the jury room believing this, but couldnot hold to her opinion. As an African American woman who struggles constantly with the rather tenuous relationship between womanists and feminists, I was extremely troubled by this woman's revelation. If she folded as she said she did, then she helped to create a moral vacuum.Moreover, she yielded what Belenky and others call "Subjective knowledge" on one level, for a specious kind of "procedural knowledge." As I stood with other female students in our new Women's Center listening to this woman's anguish, I was both appalled and frightened. On one level this offers specific examples as to why AFrican American women find it difficult to "ground with our sisters." Who will watch our backs? What forces were operating in that jury room? So many questions come to mind. Could her social conditioning have contributed to her refusal to listen to her own "moral" voice? to her own knowledge? It seems to me entirely appropriate to discuss this aspect of the Rodney King case on this list. Indeed, it is a Woman's Issue. F. E. De Lancey Director Women's Center Drexel University ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 17:03:46 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Antje Wiener Subject: Re: how/does one respond to a flame? In-Reply-To: <9205012225.AA21712.21712@alfred.ccs.carleton.ca>; from "Nathaniel Paradise" at May 1, 92 4:34 pm Nathaniel Paradise writes: > > Frankly, I don't know where to begin. I'm angry, I'm hurt, I feel violated. > On a day when entire neighborhoods are going up in the flames of violent, > undirected, destructive flames, I was able to console myself in a > counterexample: Donna's initial success in confronting oppressive conditions > constructively, with the real hope that as a result conditions would improve > for Donna and other women at her firm. Now Antje Wiener has poisoned that > small joy. Flame. > You don't know me, or Donna, or our relationship; **** Nathaniel: I am sorry to have ruined your day. THis was not my intention. I was simply referring to the wording of your message and commenting on the discourse within which our wording is situated. I wanted to draw people's attention to this kind of a discourse. And I know that many women - even if they are married - do NOT wish to be referred to as somebody's wife. This, of course, does not have ANYTHING to do with YOUR relationship. It is another thing, however, for you to draw the type of analogies as you did in the above part of your message. To bring in the LA riots, and implicitely suggest that those flames were to be seen in any analogy to what I have written is not only illegitimate, it is quite dangerous. Then to talk about violence in the same flow, indicates a reversed subject/object relation (only NOW: A.W., the woman, violates the man). What other than getting out your emotions did you intend with that part of your message? I was only referring to "a man's discourse" (obviously without knowing you) and addressing this on an abstract level, of course, this did not say anything about Donna's success (which, no doubt was great). I was talking in political terms. Not on a personal level. YOur comment (see above) as personnally informed and morally grounded it sounds, however, is according to my perception, highly political. Antje awiener@ccs.carleton.ca ********************************************************** you know nothing about the > people she works with. Maybe to you I'm just an object, a man-thing to be > despised. One who conveniently pulls a wife or daughter out of a hat to foster > the illusion that I really care whether the world is a shitty place for women. > Maybe I can't convince you otherwise and maybe I shouldn't try. > But if Donna's memo is taken seriously by the firm, and if it results in > change, then the men in her firm will indeed be forced to confront "their own > machismo" as a political problem. They can't possibly adopt her proposals > unless they first ackowledge that their behavior, their view of the world, and > their expectations have to change. It will cost the firm money, it may cost > them some business, it will mean a basic change in what they demand from new > associates, and most importantly, it will force a tacit admission that the > system they set up and benefited from is fundamentally unfair. This does not > constitute mere "toleration." > Just to give more background, Donna's firm has been hiring about half women > for some time now, but the women don't stay. The partners, concerned about > this problem but without understanding why it happens (because they're men) > has been having lunch meetings with associates to talk about work conditions. > Donna went to such a meeting, but came away convinced they just don't get it. > So she wrote the memo. (Oh, and this is a firm that is already fairly > progressive as large law firms go: in addition to hiring half women, they > offer three months paid maternity leave and are starting to subsidize daycare > at a center near the firm.) > So there is much to be positive about here; I don't think it's fair to > characterize it as a bunch of men pulling out the occasional wife or daughter > to avoid confronting the issues. > I'm sorry you were offended that I wrote I'm proud of Donna, but dammit, I > am, and why shouldn't I be? Writing that memo was hard for her, hard because > it meant confronting everything she hates about her job. Hard because she then > told her bosses about it. Hard because she didn't know how they would respond. > It was scary! But she did it, and it's the first time she's done something > like that. So hell yes, I'm proud, and I thought I could share that feeling > with people I thought the most likely to understand how hard it was for her to > do it, and therefore to share in that pride (as some of you have in private > memos: thank you). > As for "my wife," I wrote that to indicate relationship (relationships are > important, remember?) and to explain why I was posting for someone else. If it > had been a friend, I would have written "a friend." And I was intentionally > careful to name her to try and avoid the "object" problem. But I guess some > people will be offended no matter what you do. > As for accepting laurels, send them to Donna, please. But since you bring > it up, yeah, I think I deserve some credit. Who do you think has been > discussing these issues with Donna every night? Who do you think she showed a > draft of her memo to? Who do you think is going to do a lot of the legwork > putting together a concise guide to avoiding sexist language in legal writing > because she has little time and I am more familiar with the literature? And > finally, who the hell do you think does most of the shopping, cooking and > cleaning so that she can work 8-6 and develop her legal career? > In fact, I'm going to wrap up this response so I can start getting dinner > ready. I like to have it ready to go on the table when she gets home. ;-). > --Natan nparadis@pennsas.upenn.edu > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 17:25:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: Re: Appropriate discussion topics for WMST Frenzella Elaine De Lancey has called attention to an important and troubling issue, and one that is indeed a "woman's issue," but the fact that it is a woman's issue does not necessarily make it an appropriate topic for WMST-L. WMST-L is not a "women's issues" list. It was established to deal with the academic side of Women's Studies that "women's issues" lists by and large ignored. Admittedly, the distinction is not always clear, but in general if the message is not directly concerned with Women's Studies teaching, research, or program administration, it should probably be sent not to WMST-L but to GENDER (if it concerns communication, broadly defined), FEMAIL, WOMEN, WON (Women's Online Network), or other lists that focus on women's issues. The addresses of all these lists appear in the WMST-L User's Guide (as well as in a message to the list about two weeks ago). Please, please, please....be considerate of your fellow WMST-L subscribers who may not have as much time and/or e-mail space as you do (some even have to pay for each message they receive). Reserving WMST-L for messages about the academic side of Women's Studies keeps the number of messages at a more manageable level and permits people to tailor their list subscriptions to best meet their individual needs. Many thanks for your understanding and cooperation. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 19:18:13 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: ethel tobach Subject: Re: Appropriate discussion topics for WMST In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 4 May 1992 16:10:16 EDT from Taking a chance that I will be out of order, I want to second the com- ments of Frenzella Elaine De Lancey, and state that I think that women's studies programs have an obligation to view the events of the world in relation to their studies. In this case, especially, an issue has emerged that immediately was tied in to the choice of juries in rape cases (I believe it was Anne Quinlan(sp?). The dubious point has been made that the jury in Ventura was really composed of the peers of the police from LA. This is considered one of the prime examples of democratic procedures in court...having a jury of one's peers. The fact there are African- American police who could have sat on the jury is of course overlooked. But more to the point: when a woman brings rapists to court trial, who are the peers? Other people who might be rapists? What is the true meaning of a jury of one's peers? I am ignorant...maybe some of our women's studies colleagues from forensic and legal fields might clarify. The events in today's world are unfortunately "natural experiments" of- fering data for our examination and analysis in the light of developing feminist scholarship. Ethel Tobach ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 20:06:13 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Ethel Tobach Subject: Re: Appropriate discussion topics for WMST In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 4 May 1992 19:18:13 EDT from Ethel, while not a lawyer, I do teach on social change and the law, thus I agree that the recent events in Los Angeles are pertinent to a discussion on a Woman's studies list. Having said such, let me quote from the Bill of Rights what the Constitution says about the type of jury to be impounded for I think you raise a serious and often mis-quoted and misunderstood requirement. ARTICLE VI: In all criminal prosecutions the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial by an *impartial* jury of the State and the district wherein the crime shall ahve been committed......[emphasis added] I must confess to feeling at a loss when teaching students how to account for this jury's verdict as well as the recent acquittal verdict of a man who video- taped his wife being tied up and raped by him. The 8 woman, 4 man jury stated that it was just *rough sex games*..and the man has been quoted as saying after his acquittal, "How can a husband rape his wife?" If these are the social norms and due process has been observed, how can one quarrel with the verdict.despite the clear evidence on a videotape...I very much expect this question from my students at least once during the Summer II session. Patricia McRae University of South Carolina ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 22:17:18 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Frank Dane Subject: Re: Appropriate discussion topics for WMST In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 4 May 1992 19:18:13 EDT from Though I don't care to try to defend the patriarchal history of the jury system, I do think it necessary to point to a distinction between the legal, constitutional concept of a "jury of peers" and the social concept of "peer". Ethal Tobach's recent posting seems to have neglected this distinction, and until such time as we manage to change the constitutional concept of peer we need to educate students about such distinctions (else how will awareness of a need for change be brought about?). Constitutionally, the "jury of peers" refers only to a representative sample of the community in which the charge is brought against the defendant. I do not have a constitutional right to a jury of social psychologists should I be charged with a crime, I only have a right to a jury that is chosen by a selection system that does not contain an inherent bias toward excluding members of the community (the U.S. Supreme Court's definition of a "fair" jury selection system). The legal notion of peer, therefore, refers only to the selection process, not the composition of the gender, race, creed, or other characteristics of those who actually remain on the jury at the end of the voir dire process. Clearly, the problem lies in the systemic definition of the community as the "victim" of the crime, and that definition, among other aspects, may need to be changed. But one needs to know what it is that one is changing in order to promote change from a reasoned perspective. "peer" as a legal concept is quite different from "peer" as a social concept. Francis C. Dane, Assoc. Prof. & Chair Department of Psychology, Mercer University Macon, GA 31207-0001 USA FDANE@UGA.BITNET ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 21:57:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: csanford Subject: College women's aspirations The Associated Colleges of the Midwest Committee on Women's Concerns is developing a bibliography for a project we are currently working on for ourselves and the Deans. We have done one computer search with some success. It would be helpful if any of you have comments or evaluations on information sources you are familiar with that you could share with us. We have identified the following categories: -literature on college women's aspirations, including women of color -literature on o -literature on college women's & men's aspirations -college women's aspirations in the sciences -the impact of women's studies programs on women's aspirations -instruments for assessing women's aspirations, self-esteem, etc. -remedies or what to do about negative effects including in the sciences -climate on campus(mainly issues of sexual harassment) This will be an annotated bibliography. Thanks, Carolyn Sanford You may respond directly to me: csanford@carleton.edu Carolyn Sanford Carleton College Library Northfield, MN 55057 507/663-4266 p.s. We are interested in any comments you have on this topic. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 May 1992 05:05:33 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Allan Hunter Subject: apolitical discourse vs. Los Angeles, etc. In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 4 May 1992 11:51:00 EDT from Men's valid or invalid participation in feminism is NOT apolitical! - allan ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 May 1992 08:44:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: PEARSON@LEMOYNE.BITNET Subject: Nancy Hensel article My apologies, I accidently deleted the request for the information and so am unable to respond in person. I found this quite easily and quickly in the library: it turns out to to be an ERIC document #ED338128, and also available in print, possibly also in the library or from the publisher. The publisher is ASHE-ERIC Higher Education Reports, The George Washington University, One Dupont Circle, Suite 630, Washington, DC 20036, 1991, and the cost is $17. Gretchen E. Pearson, Le Moyne College, Syracuse, NY pearson@lemoyne.bitnet ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 May 1992 09:17:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: To stop mail or unsubscribe (repeat) Now that the semester is winding down, some of you will be permanently leaving your institutions and thus losing your e-mail accounts. Please remember to unsubscribe from WMST-L before you leave. To do this, send the following message to LISTSERV@UMDD (if you subscribed on Bitnet) or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU (if you subscribed on Internet): UNSUB WMST-L If you're not losing your account but are simply planning to be away for a few weeks--or for the summer--you needn't unsubscribe. You can simply have your WMST-L mail stopped temporarily. To do this, send the following message to LISTSERV@UMDD (if you subscribed on Bitnet) or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU (if you subscribed on Internet): SET WMST-L NOMAIL Please note that NOMAIL is one word. When you want mail to start arriving again, send the following message to the same address: SET WMST-L MAIL Note: BE SURE TO SEND ALL THESE MESSAGES TO LISTSERV, NOT TO WMST-L! You should receive a message from LISTSERV confirming whatever you've asked it to do. If you encounter difficulties sending your mail to LISTSERV's Bitnet address, try the Internet address (and vice versa). If neither address works, contact me PRIVATELY at the addresses below. DO NOT SEND MESSAGES TO WMST-L ABOUT YOUR SUBSCRIPTION PROBLEMS. I will be repeating this message fairly regularly as the semester comes to a close. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 May 1992 12:25:04 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jo Ellen Green Kaiser Subject: Query: studies of black women poets I teach women's studies classes in women poets. I am having trouble locating information on black women poets, particularly on those women writing in America from 1900 to 1950. I am especially interested in black women poets of the Harlem Renaissance. Also, more specifically, does anyone know the connection between Brooks' kitchenette poem, with its "dream," in the Bronzeville book, and Hughes' "Montage of a dream deferred" which came out a few years afterward? Suggestions of other lists that might be useful to me for this topic also appreciated! Jo Ellen Green Kaiser jgkais00@ukcc.uky.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 May 1992 12:37:08 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: jshackel@AMETHYST.BUCKNELL.EDU Subject: Job Opening One Year Job Opening in Sociology The Department of Sociology and Anthropology at Bucknell University seeks to make a one year appointment at the rank of lecturer or assistant professor beginning in September, 1992. Our top priority is to find an individual who is an outstanding teacher. Areas of specialization are open, although we would prefer candidates who can teach race and ethnic relations, gender studies, social mobility, or political sociology. A background in social science writing, allowing a candidate to teach in Bucknell's "writing across the curriculum" program, would be valuable as would a strong background in either methods or social theory. Bucknell is a private, comprehensive university where teaching is emphasized and faculty are strongly supported in their instructional efforts. The sociology program is particularly strong in gender studies, law and society, and human services while our anthropologists specialize in Japan, Africa, and Latin America. Women and minorities are particularly encouraged to apply. Bucknell is located in a picturesque town convenient to major metropolitan areas. Applications are due by May 15, but we will be interviewing candidates as qualified candidates appear in our pool. Thus, early communication is encouraged. Contact: Carl Milofsky, Department of Sociology and Anthropology, Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA 17837; (717)425-3468 or (717)524-1117; e-mail Milofsky@macJ02.Bucknell.edu. Jean Shackelford jshackel@bucknell.edu. 717-524-1476 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 May 1992 13:50:03 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Ginny Daley Subject: re: black women poets check out ann allen shockley's AFRO-AMERICAN WOMEN WRITERS, 1746-1933: A CRITICAL GUIDE AND ANTHOLOGY (G.K. Hall, 1988). she has two sections devoted to black women writers from 1900-1933, several of whom are poets. the appendices on "biographical sketches of new negro movement writers who did not publish prior to 1933" and "additional selected sources for new negro movement writers" should also give some other leads. ginny daley women's studies archivist/bibliographer vld@mail.lib.duke.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 May 1992 13:19:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: MAHER@UNOMA1.BITNET Subject: Czech Library Dr. Jirina Siklova, Dept. of Social Work and Gender Studies, Charles University, Celetna 20, 110 o Prague 1 Czech. requests books, journal, offprint donations on Women's Studies. If you have anything to help this nascent program, please send them to the above address. Thanks. Sue Maher at MAHER@UNOMAI.BITNET ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 May 1992 11:25:01 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Betty J Glass Subject: Re: Query: studies of black women poets In-Reply-To: Jo Ellen Green Kaiser "Query: studies of black women poets" (May 5, 12:25pm) A new list announcement was just made about "AFAS-L," Discussion of African American Studies and Librarianship. Try posting your query there to help launch it: e-mail address: AFAS-L@KENTVM The list is moderated by 7 academic librarians from various institutions. Betty Glass University of Nevada, Reno glass@equinox.unr.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 May 1992 13:29:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: MAHER@UNOMA1.BITNET Subject: czech library Dear Subscribers--I apologize for the ungrammatical message I just sent out--I was interrupted and had to sign off very quickly. If you need more information on the new gender studies center in Czechoslovakia, send a private message to MAHER@UNOMAI.BITNET. I can mail you the flyer I just received. Sue Maher ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 May 1992 15:08:26 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: allen@SONOMA.EDU Subject: re: black women poets In Conditions Five: The Black Women's Issue there is an excellent essay by Gloria T. Hull on Angelina Weld Grimke. This issue is thirteen years old, and there has been much more published since that time--I just happen to know of this. Julie allen@sonoma.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 May 1992 17:48:11 CEN Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Bonna Boettcher Subject: Re: Query: studies of black women poets In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 5 May 1992 12:25:04 EST from In addition to other sources already mentioned, you might check your library's holdings of *The Dictionary of Literary Biography* published by Gale Research, Inc. I am quite certain they have done a volume on writers of the Harlem Renaissance (I'm not at the library and thus, cannot check the exact volume number). Bonna Boettcher Western Kentucky University BITNET: BONNA@WKYUVM ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 May 1992 00:58:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Laura.Julier" <21798JUL@MSU.BITNET> Subject: Job Opening GET THIS JOB!!! Ok, fine, then I want it. Seriously, tho, it's near Philly ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 May 1992 11:07:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Paula ACQ Henry Subject: Re: Query: studies of black women poets The title in the series referred to by Bonna Boettcher is: Afro-American Writers from the Harlem Renaissance to 1940 [Dictionary of Literary Biography, volume 51] Gale Research Company, 1987 This would probably be available in most academic library reference collections. Paula Henry Henry@geneseo.bitnet Henry@uno.cc.geneseo.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 May 1992 16:19:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: Women's Studies (& WMST-L) in India Yesterday, I received the following message from a relatively new subscriber in India. I thought other WMST-L subscribers might find the message of interest and so, with permission, I am posting it. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ************************************************************** Dear Joan Korenman, It is indeed a new experiance for me out here joining your WMST-L. Within a short period the material I have received have created lot of enthusiaism amongst our Humanities departments. Moreover I am passing on the materials to Mother Teresa Women's University which doesn't have this facility atpresent which is unfortunate though I am filling the gap. This university was established mainly for women studies program. If there is anything I can do to help the the subscribers of WMST-L in this field, let me know. Thanks S.Kuppuraj Department of Computer Science University of Madras Madras 600005 Tamilnadu, India. email: unimad!kupraj@iitm.ernet.in or kupraj!unimad!iitm!sangam ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 May 1992 21:11:00 MDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: LHAMPLYONS@CUDENVER.BITNET Subject: RE: Women's Studies (& WMST-L) in India S Kuppuraj (what is your personal name, please? we are very informal here): I have a graduate student who is Indian (Malayalam) who will be spending the summer in India. She wants to work on women's language issues; do you know of any researchers I could give her names/addresses of to contact while she is there? Thanks for any help. Liz Hamp-Lyons (Dr) Assoc Prof U of Colorado, Denver LHAMPLYONS@CUDENVER.BITNET ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 May 1992 10:23:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Phyllis Holman Weisbard Subject: Librarians attending ALA in SF To librarians on WMST-L: I'm planning on attending ALA in San Francisco June 25-July 1 and am looking for someone with whom to hsare a hotel room. Please contact me directly if you might be interested. If you already have accommodations set up but would like to meet at some point during the convention, please contact me also. Phyllis Holman Weisbard (608) 263-5754 Acting Women's Studies Librarian pweis@wiscmacc (Bitnet) University of Wisconsin System pweis@macc.wisc.edu (Internet) Room 430 Memorial Library 728 State Street Madison, WI 53706 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 May 1992 12:01:27 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: ethel tobach Subject: RE: Women's Studies (& WMST-L) in India In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 6 May 1992 21:11:00 MDT from If people can get hold of the New York Times for May 5, 1992, P. D8, edition L, there is a diagram illustrating the difference between the Toyota manufacturing process and the old Henry Ford process...an interesting use of a "she" as a group leader on the assembly line...good for textbook or teaching use. Ethel Tobacah ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 May 1992 12:15:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: JDMANDLE@COLGATEU.BITNET Subject: PART TIME JOB OPENING I will be hiring a person to teach one course in Spring l993 in the Psychology of Gender or the Psychology of Women at Colgate University in Hamilton New York. If you know of anyone in the area who might be interested ple please let me know. Joan D. Mandle Director of Women's Studies jdmandle@colgateu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 May 1992 12:26:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Arnie Kahn Subject: A Women's Studies Job I have received the following announcement from Jackie White. If you have any questions, direct them to her at whitejg@uncg.bitnet Arnie From: IN%"WHITEJG@UNCG.BITNET" 7-MAY-1992 09:32:28.80 To: IN%"fac_askahn@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU" CC: Subj: Ddirector of Women's Studies at UNCG University of North Carolina at Greensboro Director of Women's Studies The University of North Carolina at Greensboro is seeking a Director for the Women's Studies Program, the appointment anticipated to run from 1992-94. The Program is housed in the College of Arts and Sciences and the Director reports to the Associate Dean of the College. Founded in 1972, the Women's Studies Program offers an undergraduate major and minor and supports and encourages research and scholarship related to women and gender across the University. In collaboration with the Women's Studies Program Committee, the Director is responsible for the administration of the Program, for planning a visiting speakers program and symposia on women's issues, and for fund-raising and alumnae relations. The Director works closely with the Friends of Women's Studies, an alumnae support group, to identify ways in which academic inquiry and community interest in women's issues can be mutually supportive. It is expected that the successful candidate will hold the Ph.D. (or its equivalent) in an academic discipline and will have demonstrated a commitment to the advancement of women's studies through a combination of scholarly and administrative activities. The primary appointment is in the Women's Studies Program, although an adjunct (courtesy) appointment in an academic department can also be arranged. The Director will teach two courses per year, one of which will be the multidisciplinary core course "An Introduction to Women's Studies: The American Woman" (WMS 250), and will be encouraged to maintain a program of research or scholarship. It is anticipated that the successful candidate will serve for two years, beginning August 1st, 1992; no renewal of the appointment beyond this period is anticipated. Salary is negotiable. Applicants should send a curriculum vitae, statement of interests in and involvement with the discipline of women's studies, and arrange to have three letters of recommendation sent to: Women's Studies Search Committee, College of Arts and Sciences, Room 100 Foust Building, University of North Carolina at Greensboro, Greensboro, NC 27412-5001. The deadline for applications is May 29th, 1992. EEO/AA:W/M/V/D. Minorities and women are strongly encouraged to apply. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 May 1992 12:21:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Snow Leopard Subject: Attn: Joan! Please set me to nomail Joan, Can you please set me to nomail? Since my codes are set there to SWTEXAS, I can't do it from here and I need your help. I am just too busy to keep up with all of this. Thank you. -Traci ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 May 1992 12:28:03 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: MFAH@ECNUXA.BITNET Subject: meta-price yes, this concerns Price Caldewll's recent messages, but it is not a rebuttal to him. Much of the discussion out of this has been interesting, but I wonder about Price's rhetorical choices. Why say these things here? Price's comments are obviously designed to be inflamatory - shall we continue to allow him to *demand* our attention? Clearly, as his last message demonstrates, he will not understand the perspective on rape and sex shared by the other members of this network. A good fight sometimes stirs us up, but arguing with this person will not change his views. what it has done, however, is take the focus of this line away from issues facing feminists and women's studies in academics. maybe he just cant stand to be left out.... ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 May 1992 14:17:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: RE: meta-price As some of you are aware, the recent message entitled "meta-price" was sent to WMST-L in error. It referred to a discussion that's been taking place on GENDER and should have been sent there. I've written to the person who sent the message to inform her of the error. I'm sending this message to the list just in case some people were wondering whether they've failed to receive some WMST-L mail. Answer: no. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 May 1992 14:35:52 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Stephanie Riger Subject: women engineers Does anyone know of a national association (or, preferably, one in the Chicago area) of women engineers, particularly mechanical engineers? Please reply privately. Stephanie Riger u29322@UICVM ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 May 1992 13:53:04 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Stephanie Riger Subject: tenure roll-back Does anyone know of cases where the tenure clock was rolled back for reasons other than family responsibilities? In particular, do you know of instances when the tenure clock was rolled back for a junior faculty person who became swamped with advising, dissertation committees, etc. and so did not publish enough? If you do know of cases, please send me a contact person's name, or tell me wha t arguments were used to try to roll back the clock (and if they were successful). Thanks in advance for your help, Stephanie Riger, Director of Women's Studies (M/C 360), Univ. of Il. at Chicag o, Box 4348, Chicago, IL. 60680 Bitnet: u29322@UICVM ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 May 1992 13:57:23 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Stephanie Riger Subject: dual relationships policy I would appreciate receiving copies of dual/amorous relationship policies (whic h say that faculty should not have an intimate relationship and supervisory relationship with someone at the same time). What arguments were used to get these policies adopted? Thanks in advance, Stephanie Riger, Women's Studies Program (M/C 360), Univ. of Il. at CHicago , Box 4348, Chicago Il. 60680 Bitnet: u29322@UICVM ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 May 1992 17:23:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: ZIRKEL@HLYCROSS.BITNET Subject: info about men I am set to teach a course entitled "The Psychology of Gender" for the fall, and find as I am thinking about it that I am much less aware of information specifically about male gender development, etc. I have some materials that focus on the differences between men and women and some that focus primarily on women, but would like something that addresses men a little more by themselves for the male students in the class to feel a little more connected. Any ideas? This is a course primarily for upper-division students who have had Intro to Psych before. Thanks in advance! Sabrina Zirkel College of the Holy Cross zirkel@hlycross bitnet ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 May 1992 17:50:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: PBRUSH@SNYESCVA.BITNET Subject: Re: Prison Teaching Subject: Prison teaching On Friday, 1 May 1992 at 11:5209 EDT Patt McRae said: > >South Carolina after a year long effort a decade ago does not >offer higher education to the women's prison. The director of >my program says that while he is sure there must be some penal >institutions out there that offer higher education to women, he >has not heard/nor read of any. Does anyone out there know >of such programs or where they can be located? The past two >issues of Journals of Continuing education all address *male* >institutions...leading one to think there are no similar >offerings for *female* institutions. > In New York state, the Albion Correctional Facility at Albion offers an Associates Degree from Genessee Community College. At the Taconic Correctional Facility at Bedford Hills, both Associates and Bachelors Degrees are offered from Mercy College at Dobbs Ferry, New York. Bayview Correctional Facility in New York, NY, offers an Associates Degree from Mercy College. Mercy College used to be a women's college, but may now be coeducational. New York has other women's prisons (e.g. Beacon and Groveland) that do not offer higher education programs. However, women in the NYS corrections system may request transfer to a facility that does offer such a program. Because access to college is considered a privilege and not a right, requests for transfer to continue education may or may not be approved. The above information it may be incomplete in the sense that there may be other women's prisons and other higher education programs in the NYS corrections system. Peter Brush PBRUSH@SNYESCVA Empire State College Around here prisons are springing up like mushrooms after a warm rain. Sadly, it is the only growth industry. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 May 1992 18:23:28 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Mary Beth Oliver Subject: Re: info about men In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 8 May 1992 17:23:00 EST from I would recommend Joseph Pleck's book, _The Myth of Masculinity_ (1981), MIT Press. I know it's a little dated, but I think that he brings an interesting perspective to the literature on male gender development. He also does a good job of explaining the assumptions of other theoretical perspectives as well. Good luck! Mary Beth Oliver Virginia Tech olivermb.vtvm1 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 May 1992 18:37:44 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: MIKE Subject: Re: info about men Don't tell any of your friends but you might consider Robert Bly "Iron John" ... I don't care much for the perspective but it has been a very influential book in the MCP crowd. Mike Keenan Department of Management Western Michigan University Kalamazoo, MI 49008 (616) 381-0163 keenan@gw.wmich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 May 1992 17:49:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: ASHELDON@UMNACVX.BITNET Subject: Re: info about men This book is not about the psychology of men in the strict sense (i.e. textbook psychology) but it seems like a readable source for much discussion: Kimmel & Messner, _Men's Lives_. macmillan. Amy Sheldon asheldon@umnacvx ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 May 1992 18:00:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: ASHELDON@UMNACVX.BITNET Subject: Re: dual relationships policy The U of Minnesota policy on sexual harassment includes a statement about amorous relationships. It's been a while since I've read it but it says that such policies are not acceptable where there is a power differential and that consent of the less powerful party (e.g. student in a fac-stud relationship) will not be considered an acceptable justification when there's been an abuse. For copies of the policy write to: EEO/Affirmative Action Office 419 Morrill Hall U of Minnesota Minneapolis, MN 55455 Director: Patricia Mullen Special Assistant: Janet Spector They may be able to answer questions about the formulation of the policy. Amy Sheldon ASHELDON@UMNACVX ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 May 1992 17:12:02 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Kali A. K. Israel" Subject: Re: info about men You might want to look at Lynne Segal's SLOW MOTION: Changing Masculinities, Changing Men (Routledge 1990) and Victor Seidler, ed., THE ACHILLES HEEL READER: Men, Sexual Politics, and Socialism (Routledge, 1991). Both of these are largely British, so they might not be suitable for your class (tho Segal has quite a bit on US and a little on Australia), but they may give you some useful references. On the US historical sides, you might want to look for Mark Carnes, David Leverenz, and [David?] Gilmore. Rutgers's Center for Historical Analysis had a conference on masculinities in the spring of 1990--you could write them (RCHA, 88 College Ave., New Brunswick, NJ 08903) and ask if they could send you a photocopy of the conference program, just to get hold of the names of involved folks. Also, in the current (winter 92) issue of RADICAL HISTORY REVIEW, there's a good piece by Gail Brederman on race, class, and ideas about masculinity in the late 19th/early 20thcs. and a piece by Patricia Cline Cohen, which I've not yet read, called "Unregulated Youth: Masculinity and Murder in the 1830s City." I mention all this historical stuff not just because I AM an historian, but because students sometimes can feel more confident and "safe" identifying the social construction of gender in the past FIRST, and then you can work forward! Good luck. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 May 1992 17:18:42 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Kali A. K. Israel" Subject: Re: info about men I should also have mentioned Michael Kimmel, ed. CHANGING MEN: New Research [strike that--] New Directions in Research on Men and Masculinity, Sage 1987, and same editor, MEN CONFRONT PORNOGRAPHY (Meridian, 1990)--the latter has a wide array of political and intellectual perspectives, so you can use it to introduce them to the DEBATE, rather than pushing them in one given direction. I find Scott Malcolmsen 's essay in that collection particularly provocative. Another source of a LOT of references is Kenneth Clatterburgh, CONTEMPORARY PERSPECTIVES ON MASCULINITY: Men, Women, and Politics in Modern Society (Westview, 1990)-- he's a philosopher, I think, and aims to be "impartial" in giving an overview. His bibliography is quite useful even if you don' t find the book itself suitable for your class. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 May 1992 22:59:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: WMST-L membership figures I thought some of you might like to know that as of today, there are more than one thousand WMST-L subscribers! 1001, to be precise. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 May 1992 12:15:00 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: DWONG@POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU Subject: Inexpensive housing avail. in D.C. Several people have asked about summer housing in various cities. The Career Development Office newsletter at Pomona College just carried the following announcement--hope it's useful to someone: HOUSING FOR WOMEN IN D.C. Thompson-Markward Hall is a temporary residence for young women (18 to 35 years old). It is located on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C. Accomodations feature furnished single rooms with a telephone. Rooms at Thompson-Markward Hall rent for $130.00 per week. This fee includes breakfast and dinner Monday through Saturday and Sunday brunch. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 May 1992 15:07:32 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Lucy Candib MD Subject: men's development I think it worth looking at and commenting on the assumptions underlying the "classic" writing on men's development. Women either do not exist, or appear as biologically complementary to women, in these materials, yet there are some insights about men, by men, that we should continue to examine and question. Especially for a readership of college men, the personal qualities of the individuals studied makes these materials (Vaillant, Levinson, and Perry) especially relevant: Erikson EH. Identity: Youth and Crisis, Norton, 1968. Erikson EH, Erikson JM. On Generativity and Identity: From a Conversation with Erik and Joan Levinson. Harvard Educational Review 1981; 51:249-269. Levinson DJ, Darrow CN, Klein EB, Levinson MH, McKee B. Seasons of a Man's Life. Knopf, 1978. Perry WG. Forms of INtellectual and ethical development in the college years. Holt, Rinehart, & Winston, 1970. Vaillant, GE. Adaptation to life. Little, Brown, 1977. Lucy M. Candib, M.D. Family Health and Social Service Center 875 Main St. Worcester, Massachusetts 01610 508-756-3528 lcandib@umassmed.ummed.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 May 1992 21:41:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: GV4@PSUVM.BITNET Subject: Re: Antje's diatribe / men in feminism / feminists affecting men In-Reply-To: AHUNTER AT CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU -- Sun, 3 May 1992 15:50:41 EDT Does it ever bother anyone that Alan takes more space per message than any of the 1000 other members of this list? It makes me uneasy, despite the fact that I agree with the general message. M. Gergen The medium (or the long of it) can also be the message! ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 May 1992 23:43:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Arnie Kahn Subject: WMST-L at APA If you're attending the American Psychological Association meetings in DC in August and are interested in a psychologist WMST-L dinner, please let me know. There's a possibility that Joan Korenman, listowner of WMST-L will join us. Likely dates would be either Saturday or Sunday of APA. Please send mail to me, not WMST-L. Address below. Arnie Kahn fac_askahn@jmuvax (bitnet) fac_askahn@vax1.acs.jmu.edu (internet) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 May 1992 00:18:18 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Patie" Subject: Re: Antje's diatribe / men in feminism / feminists affecting men In-Reply-To: Message of Sat, 9 May 1992 21:41:00 EDT from RE: the length of Allan's messages: Doesn't bother me since I'm not sure he does exceed the length of the others. Am a fairly wordy person myself..I've just been practicing restraint longer than Allan. I've learned a lot from his messages and have certainly improved my own syllabi and teaching as a result... as well as the many other *supporters* on the list. As a grandmother I don't bake because God(dess) made gourmet deli bakeries; as a netter I don't object to long messages because God(dess) gave me a delete key:-) Patricia McRae University of South Carolina ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 May 1992 15:12:07 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Allan Hunter himself Subject: Let's NOT discuss allan, ok? In-Reply-To: Message of Sun, 10 May 1992 00:18:18 EDT from Stop! Ick! The hoped-for discussion of men and our proper place in feminist dialogue has already shown signs of becoming a discussion of allan and his hyperactive keyboardings. I really hate to admit it but when one man's participation becomes the topic of conversation on a women's studies list, he is a disruption. sorry! I'll quit! What I've been doing is theorizing; my favorite feminist theorists taught me that theory is a verb and belongs to all of us and not just lofty, socially important published people. I love to theorize. The art of changing what the world is by re-seeing parts of it differently is what I do. But I guess it's no more appropriate here than personal discussion of gendered experiences is, and it's interfering with the list's intended purposes. I have (I hope!) a solution: when I have something to say that is a theoretical assertion instead of useful information (93 % of what I post), instead of posting it, I'll post a SHORT description of a file that will be available to those who want to read it, and they can request it from me and engage me (and perhaps others) in theoretical discussion without it clogging the list. Please accept my apologies for my denseness and self-centered unwillingness to acknowledge this sooner. - allan hunter PS - if you have comments about this posting, please send them to me unless you really really think they belong on the list, ok? ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 May 1992 16:23:12 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: K_COOK@UNHH.UNH.EDU Subject: RE: Let's NOT discuss allan, ok? c'mon folks, allan isn't Price!! it could be far worse, no? Kimberly J. Cook, k_cook@unhh.unh.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 May 1992 07:44:24 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: BONNIE COX Subject: mail set wmst-l nomail ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 May 1992 16:13:15 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Michael Walsh Subject: adolescent romance fiction .ce Adolescent romance fiction .sk I am doing research on adolescent romance fiction, and since this a new area for me would appreciate any help the WMST list could provide. I have been particularly impressed by the work of Carol Thurston, Linda Christian-Smith and Angela McRobbie, the last two dealing with adolescent fiction and magazines. I have been reading in the field of romance generally, and would like to discover more writings in the specific area of romance for teens and pre-teens. .sk Thank-you. Jacqui Reid-Walsh ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 May 1992 13:39:00 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "ELIZABETH HERR 'HERR_B@CUBLDR.Colorado.EDU'" Subject: Eastern European Women and Male Democracy Just a note to look at the May 1992 issue of the World Monitor Magazine. It has an article about the disillusionment of Eastern European Women who have helped their male comrades get rid of the soviet party structure, only to find themselves excluded (once again....) from the benefits. Where they once held 20 - 35% of all seats in parliaments, etc, they are now faced with a complete loss of voice, jobs, and daycare....So they are organizing! I corroborates my thought that men have been fickle allies of women at best, and that the interest of patriarchy overrides equlity by a large margin! namaste, Elizabeth Herr Herr_b@cubldr.colorado.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 May 1992 13:43:00 PST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: SMITHD@CLARGRAD.BITNET Subject: infor I'd like to receive some references concerning the relationship bteween capitalism, men and rape that would be appropriate for under grads. Thanks D. Smith SMITHD@CLARGRAD ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 May 1992 18:19:17 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Carole Farber Subject: adolescent romance fiction In-Reply-To: note of Sun, 10 May 1992 16:13:15 EDT from Michael Walsh I thought you might be interested to know of a "Romance Readers Anonymous" network RRA-L@Kentvm.bitnet. This may be a good source of info. You sub- scribe in the usual way: send a message to RRA-L saying subscribe your name. Hope it is of interest. Carole ssccmf@uwocc1.uwo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 May 1992 18:22:44 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Carole Farber Subject: adolescent romance fiction In-Reply-To: note of Sun, 10 May 1992 16:13:15 EDT from Michael Walsh OOPPSS!!! Of course you send your wish to subscribe to Listserv@Kentvm.Bitnet ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 May 1992 20:30:27 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Lucy Candib MD Subject: men's development I had one other thought after my last set of suggestions for readings. What about Peggy Sanday's book, Fraternity Gang Rape: Sex, Brotherhood, and Privilege on Campus}i (NYU, 1990). It would offer some material about young men's development that college men could analyze, reconsider, and maybe use to do some self-examination. It is well written and easy going. Apart from the title, which might put off a few (despite its truthfulness), I think it would draw relatively naive readers into its analysis. Lucy M. Candib, M.D. Family Health and Social Service Center 875 Main St. Worcester, Massachusetts 01610 508-756-3528 lcandib@umassmed.ummed.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 May 1992 20:49:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Arnie Kahn Subject: anthology The message below is from Sharon Jenkins, who is not a member of WMST-L who asked me to distribute her message. For further information, you can contact her at the address below. Arnie ************************************** I pass on for network distribution a flyer that I got at the UT- Arlington Women and Work Conference last weekend. The content follows: A Call for Materials for "We Believe You, Anita: Women Speak Out About Sexual Harassment", an anthology of writings by women expressing our feelings and the memories of our experiences which were brought up by the Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas hearings. We will consider first-person experiences in any form: accounts, commentary, copies of letters to Anita Hill. Manuscripts should be typewritten, double-spaced, and limited to 2,000 words. There is no minimum length. Please enclose a stamped self-addressed envelope for reply and mail it to: Anthology Jane Berry Marcellus 117 E. 2nd St. Tucson, AZ 85705 Include sufficient postage if you want your manuscript returned. Please post this flyer, copy it, share it. We seek submissions from a broad spectrum of women. Contributors will receive two copies of the book as payment. Date due: May 15, 1992 P.S. Arnie, my new email address is jenkinss@terrill.unt.edu. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 May 1992 21:00:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: Two announcements I have received the following two announcements: 1) Feminism and Classics: A Symposium (U. of Cincinnati) 2) International Research Associates in W.S. (Northeastern U.) For more information, contact the people named in the announcements, not WMST-L or me. Joan Korenman (korenman@umbc) ****************************************************************** 1) FEMINISM AND CLASSICS: A Symposium November 5-7, 1992 Department of Classics, University of Cincinnati Session Topics: * The Challenge of Feminist Scholarship to the Profession of Classics * Postmodern Theory, Feminism, and Classics * The Absence of Women's Voices as a Problem for Feminists in Classics * The Ideology of Gender Roles Plenary Session Speakers: Phyllis Culham, Helene Foley, Judith Hallett, Marilyn Arthur Katz, Sarah Pomeroy, Nancy Rabinowitz, Amy Richlin, Marilyn Skinner. Vernon Manor Hotel, 400 Oak Street, Cincinnati, Ohio. For a descriptive brochure, registration form, and information about hotel accommodations, please write to Ann Michelini (Phone: 513-556-1941) or Kathryn Gutzwiller (Phone: 513-556-1936), Department of Classics, ML #226, University of Cincinnati, Cincinnati, OH 45221-0226 ********************************************************************* 2) International Research Associates in Women's Studies Northeastern University The Women's Studies Program at Northeastern University offers Research Associate positions to five visiting scholars researching women or gender issues. Scholars are in residence for the academic year (or for shorter periods) at Northeastern University in Boston, Massachusetts, as Interational Research Assocates in Women's Studies. International Research Associates are provided with office space and library borrowing privileges. Although Research Associates must have their own financial support, they receive free computer time on Northeastern's mainframe system as well as postage, telephone, fax, and copying. Northeastern University has one of the strongest faculties in Women's Studies in New England. The Women's Studies Program sponsors many seminars, lectures, and colloquia, including the Boston Feminist Theory Colloquium. Research Associates are invited to participate in these activities during their affiliation with Northeastern. Scholars may apply by sending a brief statement of their project, with dates of expected residency and curriculum vitae to Professor Laura L. Frader, Coordinator, Women's Studies Program, 524 Holmes Hall, Northeastern University, Boston, MA 02115 by June 1, 1992. 617-437-4984. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 May 1992 15:23:11 BST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Judith.Newman@NEWCASTLE.AC.UK Subject: job Applications invited (3 copies) with names of 3 referees for Lectureship in English Literature, any postmedieval field, Start 1 October 1992.Salary L12860-17827. Closing Date 29 May 1992 Director of Personnel, Registrar's Office,University , Newcastle Upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, Great Britain ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 May 1992 12:21:01 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: kfresco@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU Subject: NEH action I forward information in a mailing received from Teachers for a Democratic Culture and dated April 21: "Earlier this month the Bush Administration released the names of eight new nominees to the NEH Advisory Council, selected without substantial consultation with the humanities community. The views of some of the nominees, who have expressed hostility toward recent innovations in the humanities [according to the accompanying press release: who are opponents of feminism and multiculturalism], are quite disturbing. Four of the nominees are members of the National Association of Scholars; at least four more NAS members are already on the 27 person NEH Council. None of the new nominees, moreover, appears to work in a field of the humanities outside the European tradition. Now we learn that serious allegations have been made about political tampering with the review process for NEH grants. It appears that certain schools of criticism, points of view, and individual scholars have become de facto ineligible for NEH support, despite positive recommendations by peer review committees." TDC wants letters and phone calls urging the Senate Committee on Labor and Human Resources, chaired by Sen. E. Kennedy, to delay voting on these nominations so as to allow a proper period of time for comment. TDC is also calling for the appointment of a task force to investigate the recent administration of the NEH. The House Appropriations Subcommittee, chaired by Rep. Sidney Yates (Dem., IL) will have a budget hearing in May so letters to Yates are also encouraged. Primary Senate staff members for this issue: Kathy Druse (Kennedy's ofc) (202) 224-4543 and Alexander Crary (Sen. Pell's ofc) (202) 224-7666. If your senator is on the committee, it would help to contact his ofc: Metzenbaum (202) 224-2315; Dodd (202) 224-0354; Simon (202) 224-5575; Harkin (202) 224-6265; Brock Adams (202) 224-3239; Mikulski (202) 224-4654; J. Bingham (202) 224-5521; Wellstone (202) 224-5641; Hatch (202) 224-6770; Kassebaum (202) 224-2962;J. Jeffords (202) 224-5141; D. Coats (292) 224-5623; Thurmond (202) 224-8688; Durenberger (202) 224-3244; T. Cochran (202) 224-0136. "If you have infomation about the administration of the NEH ... we ask you to send it to the Senate Committee or directly to us. [Gerald Graff/Gregory Jay, P.O. Box 6405, Evanston, IL 60204, (312) 743-3662, FAX (312) 743-4548] We especially need to hear from anyone with experience of the NEH grant and peer review process who can confirm charges of bias or improprieties." ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 May 1992 13:46:28 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: JMURPHY@MAINE.BITNET Subject: policy prohibiting consensual relationships The University of Southern Maine has revised the SExual Harrassment Policy to strongly discourage employees from having sexual/romantic relationships with anyone under their supervision (including students who are enrolled in their courses). The enforceability of this policy has not been tested in the courts yet. The policy enables a third party to make a claim of "unfair treatment" resulting from such relationships. For a copy of the policy please contact: EEOC/USM/Portland, ME 04103 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 May 1992 20:47:01 +0100 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Sterling G. Bjorndahl" Subject: Re: dual relationships policy > I would appreciate receiving copies of dual/amorous relationship policies (whic > h say that faculty should not have an intimate relationship and supervisory > relationship with someone at the same time). What arguments were used to > get these policies adopted? > Thanks in advance, > Stephanie Riger, Women's Studies Program (M/C 360), Univ. of Il. at CHicago > , Box 4348, Chicago Il. 60680 Bitnet: u29322@UICVM It seems to me that under Canada's new rape shield legislation, a sexual encounter or relationship between supervisor and supervised would be assumed to be legally rape unless you could show a lot of evidence to the contrary. Is someone on the list more familiar with this legislation than I am? -- Sterling G. Bjorndahl, bjorndahl@Augustana.AB.CA or bjorndahl@camrose.uucp Augustana University College, Camrose, Alberta, Canada (403) 679-1516 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 May 1992 20:52:31 +0100 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Sterling G. Bjorndahl" Subject: Re: dual relationships policy It now occurs to me that the posting I just sent on this subject really has nothing to do with women's studies. I apologize if that message was outside of the scope of this list. -- Sterling G. Bjorndahl, bjorndahl@Augustana.AB.CA or bjorndahl@camrose.uucp Augustana University College, Camrose, Alberta, Canada (403) 679-1516 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 May 1992 09:26:23 -0400 Reply-To: bn279@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Tamar M. Fox" Subject: Re: adolescent romance fiction Although I have not read books from this series, you may want to look at Sunfire Historical Romances. I understand that they are a step above the others. See _Media Spectrum_, Vol. 16 No. 2 pullout: Historical Fiction: A Bibliography, p. 11. -- Tamar M. Fox UM School of Information & Library Studies Tamar.Fox@um.cc.mich.edu OR bn279.cleveland.freenet.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 May 1992 09:40:06 -0400 Reply-To: bn279@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Tamar M. Fox" Subject: Women's Issues in Librarianship I am a grad student enrolled in a course entitled "Education in a Multicultural Society. For a class project, I am designing a grad level course on Women's Issues in Librarianship. I am interested in comments from people who have either enrolled in such a course or taught one. So far, I have come across Sue Searing's article in WLW Journal "Women's Issues Enliven Library School Course at UW-Madison" -Spring 1989. Please respond to me privately and I will post later to the list. Thanks, Tami -- Tamar M. Fox UM School of Information & Library Studies Tamar.Fox@um.cc.mich.edu OR bn279.cleveland.freenet.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 May 1992 08:47:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: SPRINGFI@UWLAX.EDU Subject: help in Singapore I have a Filipina student whose sister lives in Singapore. Both were "picture brides." My student suffered intolerable abuse before divorcing. Her sister is in a similar situation. My question is: is there a contact, through e-mail or other, in Singapore, who could give the name and address of a women's group or shelter for a non-citizen. The sister is mentioning suicide. I would appreciate any insight anyone might have to offer. Thank you. By the way, I will be off e-mail for the summer beginning this Monday, 18 May. Consuelo Springfield Women's Studies Dept. University of Wisconsin-La Crosse "springfi@uwlax.wisc. edu" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 May 1992 11:41:00 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "ELIZABETH HERR 'HERR_B@CUBLDR.Colorado.EDU'" Subject: Re: dual relationships policy The University of Colorado has adopted a sexual harassment policy which basically discourages relationships between superiors and subordinates, at all levels. To my understanding, they are not prohibited (nor could you ever truly stop two people who care for each other....) but in case of an ensuing conflict or problem, due to the inherent power differential, the party with the "power-over" will be held responsible, regardless. Seems like a reasonable policy to me. Namaste, Elizabeth Herr Herr_b@cubldr.colorado.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 May 1992 13:10:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: UAHEBP01@UAHVAX1.BITNET Subject: Recommended books in Women's Studies I would like to get some advice on recently published books in Women's Studies. We are trying to fill some gaps created by budget difficulties which prevented our ordering any books for our library for about two thirds of the last fiscal year. What I need now is a core of recommended titles published during the time we missed. So here's my question. What do you consider the best half a dozen or so Women's Studies books published in the last yaer and a half to two years? Which are the choicest titles, which our library should not be without? Send your candidates to me privately, at UAHEBP01@UAHVAX1 (Bitnet) or UAHEBP01@ASNUAH.ASN.NET (Internet), and I will form a composite list to share with all of you via WMST-L. Thank you for your help. -Liz -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Elizabeth Pollard Bitnet: uahebp01@uahvax1 Systems Librarian Internet: uahebp01@asnuah.asn.net Univ. of Ala./Huntsville Compuserve: 72457,1560 Huntsville, AL 35899 Phone: (205) 895-6313 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 May 1992 14:42:46 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: jill carraway Subject: WS Book Collections I could not post directly to the address for Elizabeth Pollard. Two booksyou might like to consider for your Women's Studies collection are Safe Sea of Women by Bonnie Zimmerman (Boston: Beacon, 1990) A fine analysis of lesbian writing and criticism Good Bibliogaphy Gay and Lesbian Library Service ed. by Cal Gough and Ellen Greenblatt (Jeffeson, NC: McFarland,1990) Excellent source for both librarians and scholars intersted in lesbian issues. Important bibliography. Jill Carraway jill@lib.wfunet.wfu.edu Wake Forest University Winston-Salem, NC ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 May 1992 17:08:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Susan A Holton Subject: Women's Advocate I am writing the recommendations for the President's Council on Women's Issues. One issue which came out during all of our focus groups was the need for some sort of "women's advocate" on campus. The exact role and duties of such an advocate are not clear. I wonder if any of you have such a position/person on campus? If so, I need to hear about that. If not, have any of you heard of such a position...or do you have thoughts on how that could be done. Thank you for your thoughts on this. Susan A Holton, Bridgewater State College ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 May 1992 16:10:58 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Stephanie Riger Subject: WS clip art I am looking for clip art for the newsletter for our Women's Studies Program. I would be happy to be informed of sources that would be appropriate, preferabl y on the computer (and, of course, inexpensive or even free). Thanks in advanc e, Stephanie Riger, Director, Women's STudies Program, Univ. of Il. at CHicago , u29322@UICVM ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 May 1992 14:09:16 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: jo hinchliffe Subject: feminist research A group of faculty here at the University of British Columbia are looking for help in drawing up "guidelines for feminist research". In particular they are wishing to do this to inform the work being done in the Faculty of Medicine (or not being done!) but could extend these guidelines to cover all faculties. If any other institution has developed these it would be helpful to receive a copy. Please mail to: Jo Hinchliffe Women's Studies Research Centre University of B.C. 314-2206 East Mall Vancouver, B.C. Canada V6T 1Z3 Thanks. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 May 1992 16:49:00 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "ELIZABETH HERR 'HERR_B@CUBLDR.Colorado.EDU'" Subject: address for Suan Feiner,private request From: IN%"femecon-l@bucknell.edu" 14-MAY-1992 13:52:38.89 To: IN%"femecon-l@bucknell.edu" "Multiple recipients of list" CC: Subj: e-mail address for Susan Feiner Does anyone know if Susan Feiner has an e-mail address, and if so, what it is? She teaches at Hampton University in Virginia. Please reply to me personally (not to the list!) at Ross B. Emmett Augustana University College Camrose Alberta Canada emmett@augustana.ab.ca ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 May 1992 22:16:52 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: lisa handler Subject: sorority research Hi -- I am doing research on sororities. I am interested in literature on them from any discipline, as well as any anecdotal tidbits that folks might have to offer about incidents on their campuses, sorority women in women studies class es or invitations to women studies faculty or students to speak, give workshops etc. Ever heard of a feminist in a sorority? Please respond privately, and t hanks in advance for any info. Lisa Handler [lhandler@ccvm.sunysb.edu] or lhandler@sbccvm (bitnet) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 May 1992 22:29:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Kate.See" Subject: sorority research A student and I are doing qualitative research on fraternities and the current social construction of masculinity. As we review the literature, I will let you know if we come up with materials relevant to your sorority work. It would be very interesting to think about the comparative construction of gender in fraternities and sororities--so keep me appraised. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 May 1992 00:20:41 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: sorsha@WAM.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: sorority research In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 14 May 92 22:29:00 -0500. <9205150231.AA26570@umd5.umd.edu> To Lisa and Kate: Have you also considered women in co-ed organizations? I am a "brother" (*grumble*) of Alpha Phi Omega, an international co-ed service fraternity. It started out as an all-male fraternity, and today both women and men are considered brothers of APO. If you find any other such fraternities it might be interesting (though you must decide if it's relevant to you) to research women in them. I, of course, would be happy to supply anecdotal tidbits. :) Laurie sorsha@wam.umd.edu -- ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* .Send burnt offerings to....."I don't FEEL tardy." - DLR.........IT'S GROOVE.. ...sorsha@wam.umd.edu..............................................O'CLOCK!... ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 May 1992 00:27:06 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: sorsha@WAM.UMD.EDU Subject: thanks! Many thanks to all who sent me info on women performance artists. We ended up discussing Annie Sprinkle, Valie Export, and Susie Bright in particular, and how they use sexuality in their work. We raised more questions than we answered (of course), but we had a fascinating discussion going. This got us thinking that our department would really benefit from a class devoted to how women represent their sexuality (sexualities?) in the arts. Does anyone know of such a class that currently exists? If so, I would greatly appreciate organizational information on the class...books, themes, etc. Also, we'd like to see a class on women's mythology...any clues there? I am doing this as a favor to my prof, since our WMST department is not yet hooked up to WMST-L. All suggestions should be sent to me, so I can print them out and give them to her. If you like, I will post suggestions sent to me or mail them out privately. Thanks again! Laurie sorsha@wam.umd.edu -- ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* .Send burnt offerings to....."I don't FEEL tardy." - DLR.........IT'S GROOVE... ...sorsha@wam.umd.edu..............................................O'CLOCK!.... ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 May 1992 09:56:14 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "L. THIELEN-WILSON" Subject: Re: feminist research You might send away for: "On the Treatment of the Sexes in Research" by Margrit Eichler and Jeanne Lapointe. A brief booklet published by the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada. Box 1610, Ottawa K1P 6G4. Cat. no. CR 22-22/1985 ISBN 0-662-53610X ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 May 1992 15:16:44 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Liz (ASECB@ASUACAD)" Subject: thanks! *** Reply to note of 05/14/92 21:28 I just subscribed to the women's studies list--and learned that you have held discussion about women performance artists. I am a graduate research assistant for Dr. Hulick in the Aristory depadepart- ment at Arizona State University. She and I are working on a project entitled "Gender Equity and Photography of the Nude." In conjunction with an exhibition of nude photographs to be held in the spring of 1994, we are scheduling a performance work to be held within the gallery setting. So far, we have contacted and/or accumulated information about Rachel Rosenthal and Carolee Schneeman. I would like to also contact Annie Sprinkle, Valie Export, and Susie Bright. Did you perchance receive information as to how to contact any of these artists. I appreciate any info you can offer me regarding these artists or otheperformance artists that might fit into the above-mentioned title. Thank you so much. I just subscribed yesterday and don't know what I have missed, but do know that such information could help me greatly. ---- Take care, asecb@asuacad Liz Birkholz asecb@asuvm.inre.asu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 May 1992 17:29:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Susan A Holton Subject: Re: sorority research Sororities are blossoming again on our campus. And so I would be quite interested to read the discussion on this issue. May I encourage you to include the information and discussion to all of us - not to individuals through personal mail (or if you go that route, please include me!). Thanks. Susan A Holton, Bridgewater State College sholton@rcnvms.rcn.mass.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 May 1992 17:00:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: SPRINGFI@UWLAX.EDU Subject: Sorority research I think that Beth Bailey's FROM FRONT PORCH TO BACK SEAT: A HISTORY OF COURTSHIP IN AMERICA looks at sororities a bit. In any case, it is a great read. I use an essay, "Fraternities and Rape on Campus" by Patricia Yancey Martin and Robert Hummer that appears in the anthology, RACE, CLASS, AND GENDER edited by Margaret Andersen and patricia Hill Collins. Good luck. Consuelo Lopez Springfield Women's Studies Dept. Univ. of Wisconsin-La Crosse ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 May 1992 18:28:06 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: J.BERG@ACAD.SUFFOLK.EDU Subject: Re: dual relationships policy Our liberal arts faculty voted last year for a policy similar to one some others have mentioned--that sexual relationships between supervisors and supervised, including faculty and students, are strongly discouraged, but not absolutely banned. However, the senior party is advised that he or she will have no credible defense should a complaint of harassment be made. I'm not sure if this policy has actually been adopted yet, or if it's still going the rounds of various governing bodies. The policy was adopted (to the extent that it was) in part because of a very sticky case in which the consensuality of a relationship was disputed by the parties involved. John Berg j.berg@acad.suffolk.edu berg@suffolk.bitnet ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 May 1992 15:50:00 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Pegueros@HISTR.SSCNET.UCLA.EDU Subject: Bread and Roses Bookstore goes under Our local feminist bookstore, Bread and Roses, is the latest victim of the recession. It is closing on May 30. It is located at 13812 Ventura, just west of Woodman (0ff the Woodman exit from the Ventura Freeway) in Sherman Oaks. They are having a huge closing sale. It would help the owner to sell the as much of the stock as possible; she has lots of bills to pay. Hope you can help. Rosie PEGUEROS@HISTR.SSCNET.UCLA.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 May 1992 18:46:24 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Janie Johnson Subject: Women in 'History of Psychology' I've just been informed that I will be teaching our course on 'history and systems of psychology' during the spring 1993 semester. I've been collecting some bibliography on women in the history and systems of psychology: i.e., women who influenced psychology as well as how women have been depicted in the history of psychology. I would very much appreciate any recommendations anyone could make. I vaguely recall a couple of new books being mentioned on wmst-l and I cannot now find those references. One, as I recall, was a readings book and I think the other was a history of women in psychology. Janie Johnson jxjohnson@ualr.edu jxjohnso@ualr (bitnet) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 May 1992 16:19:55 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Lucy Candib MD Subject: sororities Peggy Reeves Sanday has a small amount of material on sororities in her book Fraternity Gang Rape: Sex, Brotherhood, and PRivilege on Campus. New York University Press, 1990. Lucy M. Candib, M.D. Family Health and Social Service Center 875 Main St. Worcester, Massachusetts 01610 508-756-3528 lcandib@umassmed.ummed.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 May 1992 08:47:56 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Alison Shaiman - Computer Services Division Subject: Bread and Roses Bookstore goes under In-Reply-To: In reply to your message of FRI 15 MAY 1992 18:50:00 EDT Please contact me at WC41@setonmus.bitnet. I know of some bookstores in the NY-NJ area that you might want to contact. Perhaps they might buy off some of your stock (a thought). Good Luck - Alison Shaiman ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 May 1992 10:32:17 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Ginny Daley Subject: Sorority research to the person doing sorority research: i'm sorry i did not retain your original message and i don't remember the exact nature of your request for information. however, reading all these responses jogged my memory about a nugget of sorority history we have here in my department. buried deep within the papers of the Southeast Women's Educational Association is an assessment of the social "climate" at duke's women's college campus dated november 5-6, 1926. SWEA was going to offer a "test" vocational orientation course for women here and someone had written up this report prior to planning the class. the report describes the three women's fraternities on campus and the relationship between them and the YWCA and the student government and how all of these women's organizations impact the student life for women on campus. it talks about the relationship bween fraternity and non-fraternity girls, who gets bids, and whether student governemtn officers are likely to be fraternity girls, etc. i think there is some discussion about the relationship between these women's groups and the parallel structure of men's groups as well. the report runs about 6 or 7 pages (typed). if it is something you'd be interested in, e-mail me privately and i'll be glad to send you a copy. ginny daley women's studies archivist/bibliographer spcial collections department I think that Beth Bailey's FROM FRONT PORCH TO BACK SEAT: A HISTORY OF COURTSHIP IN AMERICA looks at sororities a bit. In any case, it is a great read. I use an essay, "Fraternities and Rape on Campus" by Patricia Yancey Martin and Robert Hummer that appears in the anthology, RACE, CLASS, AND GENDER edited by Margaret Andersen and patricia Hill Collins. Good luck. Consuelo Lopez Springfield Women's Studies Dept. Univ. of Wisconsin-La Crosse ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 May 1992 11:34:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: WPSADGV@WMMVS.BITNET Subject: Dual Relationship Policy William and Mary adopted a policy and procedures concerning "con- sensual amorous relationships" on June 28, 1991. The reason for the policy was to clarify our sexual harassment policy (so that offenders could not use initial consent to a relationship as a defense of their behavior); the initial form of the policy was guided by material contained in the AAUP discussion of the issue guided by material contained in the AAUP discussion of this issuein "Academe" (I believe in the Spring of 1990). The policy was initially rejected by the Faculty Assembly, went through some re- vision and was then revised again by the State Attorney General's Office (Virginia). They have assured us that this policy should stand up to any legal challenge (to give an indication of the politics behind this our contact in the Attorney General's office had been responsible for defending the Virginia Military Institute's refusal to admit women!). The policy reads, in part: ..faculty members are advised against participating in amorous relationships with students enrolled in their classes or with students whom they otherwise evaluate, grade, or supervise....Whenever such a situation arises or is foreseen, the faculty member shall report the situation promptly and seek advice and counsel from an appropriate administrat- ive superior. That superior shall take effective steps to insure unbiased supervision or evaluation of the student. The procedures direct that "Members of the university community who believe themselves to be affected adversely by a violation of this policy may initiate a complaint with the appropriate dean.... Failure to comply with the foregoing policy shall be handled in accordance with the provisions for handling allegations of misconduct described in the Faculty Handbook..." Thus, although the policy is worded such that the possibility of such relationships is not precluded, they must be dealt with publically if the faculty member is to avoid possible sanction. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 May 1992 11:36:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: WPSADGV@WMMVS.BITNET Subject: Dual relationships As usual I can't send a message without some problem--my address if you are interested in more information about William and Mary's policy is Deborah G. Ventis, WPSADGV@WMMVS ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 May 1992 12:13:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: RE: Women in 'History of Psychology' On May 15, Janie Johnson wrote: > I've just been informed that I will be teaching our course > on 'history and systems of psychology' during the spring 1993 > semester. I've been collecting some bibliography on women in > the history and systems of psychology: i.e., women who > influenced psychology as well as how women have been depicted > in the history of psychology. I would very much appreciate > any recommendations anyone could make. I vaguely recall a > couple of new books being mentioned on wmst-l and I cannot now > find those references. One, as I recall, was a readings book > and I think the other was a history of women in psychology. Though this is not my field, I do know that WMST-L participant Janis Bohan has recently edited a text that looks as if it would be VERY useful both for considering how women have been depicted in psychology and for information about early women psychologists. Its title is RE-PLACING WOMEN IN PSYCHOLOGY: READINGS TOWARD A MORE INCLUSIVE HISTORY (Kendall/Hunt Publishing Company, 1992). It's available in paperback. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 May 1992 14:08:09 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: jpotuche@CC.GETTYSBURG.EDU Subject: Women's Studies Opportunities in Hong Kong I am making inquiries for a friend of mine who is currently in India and has just learned that she will be moving to Hong Kong in August. My friend is Indian, has a Master's degree in Women's Studies, and has been teaching courses at Gettysburg College for the past three years in both women's studies and on the literature and civilization of India. She is very interested in finding opportunities in Hong Kong that will allow her to continue her interest in women's studies. If anyone knows of such opportunities, will you please respond to me privately. Thank you. --------------- Jean L. Potuchek Women's Studies Bitnet: jpotuche@gburg Gettysburg College Internet:jpotuche@cc.gettysburg.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 May 1992 18:09:44 MST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: ATNFR@ASUACAD.BITNET Subject: Re: Women in 'History of Psychology' In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 15 May 1992 18:46:24 EDT from For the impact of feminist/women on psychology see the 1991 special issue of the Psychology of Women Quarterly on Women's Heritage in Psychology edited by myself and Agnes O'Connell. For biographies our most recent book Women in Psychology: A Bibliographic Sourcebook (Greenwood Press, 1990) is useful--it also contains references to all the early works by such people as Furumoto, Scarborough, Stevens & Gardner, etc. Furumoto has some more recent stuff in the American Psychologist, and Janis Bohan has a new book designed for teaching purposes. There is also a new centennial volume on the History of Psychotherapy (Don Friedheim, ed) that has a chapter on women conributors to psychotherapy by agnes and myself as well. Nancy Felipe Russo, Ph.D. Director, Women's Studies ASU, Tempe, AZ 85287-1801 (602)965-2358 FAX:(602)965-2357 BITNET: ATNFR@ASUACAD ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 May 1992 23:24:15 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List Comments: Resent-From: lisa handler Comments: Originally-From: From: lisa handler Subject: thanks for sorority info ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 May 92 23:19:15 EDT From: lisa handler Subject: thanks for sorority info To: wmst-l folks To all who responded to my request for information about sororities -- THANK YOU. Not only was it helpful but it was encouraging. Some of you require personal responses. They are coming in a day or two (as soon as I finish this paper....) In the meantime, thanks again, and if anybody still wants to pass on info, feel free. Lisa Handler [lhandler@ccvm.sunsyb.edu -internet] [lhandler@sbccvm -- bitnet} . QUIT ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 May 1992 15:36:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Donna JAcques Subject: MEN'S STUDIES You may want to suggest to this person that Women's Studies has developed as the scholarly aspect of the Women's Movement because at one time the main bodies of all scholarly pursuits represented ONLY the male/masculine (?) perspective. Although the women's or feminist perspective may no be being incorporated into this male view to present a more balanced viewpoint, I don't think, the pendulum has swung to the other direction...when that is the only viewpoint being presented. An integration of viewpoints may be evolving now. I still, however, do not think that your friend will have any trouble finding a viewpoint in which the feminine has been devalued or ignored...it is still around. djacques@pearl.tufts.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 May 1992 15:45:58 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Marianne Waltz Subject: films on pregnant women I am compiling a list of movies on video dealing with pregnant women, pregnancy and newborns for a friend of mine who is going to have a baby and frankly, needs some comedy and lighthearted portrayals to allay some of her fears. Does anyone have some favorites? Thanks. marwalt at nervm marianne waltz ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 May 1992 15:48:40 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: PHILDON@MOREKYPR.BITNET Subject: mail to feminist.mitvma -call EXTENDED CALL THE WILMA E. GROTE SYMPOSIUM FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF WOMEN * * * * * * * EXTENDED CALL * * * * * * * THEME: Families: A World Perspective November 6-7, 1992 Morehead State University Morehead, Kentucky EXTENDED CALL FOR PAPERS The 1992 Morehead State University Symposium for the Advancement of Women will focus on women and families. Possible presentations will include (but not be limited to) such topics as: blended families, boomerang children, changing parental roles, child abuse, children's literature, communication, dual career reslationships, elder care, elder abuse, family composition, family health issues, family law, family leave, families in literature, generational relationsh, incest, mass media's portrayal of the family, poverty and the family, sandwich generation, single parent families and spouse abuse. You are invited to submit your ideas for workshops, research, writing, etc, for presentation at the conference by sending the following: 1. a cover page including title of paper or workshop, author's name(s), and title(s), amd mailing address telephone number (include area code) of author who is to be contacted and 2. THREE COPIES of an *abstract* of 500 words or less which describes the major focus of your work and, if possible, related results and conclusions. All submission will be reviewed by at least two experts in the field. Submissions should be postmarked by *JUNE 30, 1992* with an August 15 notification of acceptance date. Send abstracts to: Program Committee Families: A World Perspective UPO 1384 Morehead State University Morehead, KY 40351-1689 TELEPHONE (606) 783-2004 FAX (606) 783-2678 BITNET PHILDON@MOREKYPR ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 May 1992 15:53:04 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Beth Rushing Subject: Re: films on pregnant women In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 19 May 1992 15:45:58 EDT from This is a very interesting request, and I'm looking forward to seeing the responses. Unfortunately, the only film on pregnancy/newborns I've seen is "Look Who's Talking", and I don't think I'd recommend it at all. The original Three Men and a Cradle (French) was, as I recall, OK for stuff on babies and people bungling around trying to take care of a baby, but stay away from the hollywood version of that story. Actually, this request came on the list at the very moment that I was preparing to post a request for films on abortion/reproductive rights/ reproductive technologies. I'm scheduled to do a presentation on reproduction in a workshop on gender & justice, and would like to show a video on one or all of these topics. Where possible, I'd appreciate receiving the ordering information, too. The audience will be graduate students and continuing education students. If you don't feel this information is interesting to the list, please post your messages to me at the address below: Beth Rushing (NRUSHING@KENTVM) Dept. of Sociology Kent State University ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 May 1992 14:09:00 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Betty J Glass Subject: Re: films on pregnant women In-Reply-To: Marianne Waltz "films on pregnant women" (May 19, 3:45pm) Just don't let her see "Born Alive." There's a flick for zero population growth proponents! Betty Glass glass@equinox.unr.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 May 1992 20:28:31 GMT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List Comments: Converted from OfficeVision to RFC822 by PUMP V2.2X From: "Linda Lopez McAlister/HYPATIA" Subject: films on pregnant women In-Reply-To: note of 05/19/92 18:11 If you're looking for comedic portrayals of pregnancy the classic one that comes to my mind is the Agnes Gooch character in "Auntie Mame." I think it was Peggy Cass who played the role. Linda **********HYPATIA: A Journal of Feminist Philosophy************ Linda Lopez McAlister, ed. Women's Studies Dept., College of Arts and Sciences, University of South Florida, Tampa FL 33620 (813)974-5531 or ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 09:20:45 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: VILLERS@OUACCVMB.BITNET Subject: pregnant women Soaps have had many pregnant situations. How about "I love Lucy"? There is always the last episode of "Murphy Brown". Anne Villers Villers at ouaccvmb.bitnet ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 09:37:28 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: jpotuche@CC.GETTYSBURG.EDU Subject: Women in Development Position Gettysburg College seeks applications for a one-semester Visiting Assistant Professor of Women's Studies with a specialty in Women in Development. The position is for the spring semester (January-May) of 1993. The visiting professor will teach two undergraduate courses and lead a faculty development seminar on Women in Development. Gettysburg College is a highly selective liberal arts college located an hour and one-half from the Baltimore/Washington area. Salary and benefits are competitive. Applicants should send a cover letter and vita to Jean L. Potuchek, Women's Studies Coordinator, Gettysburg College, Gettysburg, PA 17325. Applications received by September 10, 1992 will receive fullest consideration. Gettysburg College is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action employer; minorities and women are especially encouraged to apply. --------------- Jean L. Potuchek Women's Studies Bitnet: jpotuche@gburg Gettysburg College Internet:jpotuche@cc.gettysburg.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 07:01:07 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Betty J Glass Subject: Re: films on pregnant women In-Reply-To: "Linda Lopez McAlister/HYPATIA" "films on pregnant women" (May 19, 8:28pm) >From the small screen, try to capture reruns of this season's "Murphy Brown." She just delivered her baby this week. Several episodes reflected the concerns of a career woman facing pregnancy and motherhood after thirty something. Betty Glass ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 09:07:50 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: montgome@SONOMA.EDU Subject: Abortion Rights Films To the persona doing a presentation on Reproductive Rights: I suggest you contact your local chapter of The National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL). It's probably called Ohio-NARAL. They have fims films that cover issues of abotion and birth control access at most of the chapters of this national organization. K. Montgomery MONTGOME@SONOMA.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 12:09:20 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Mary McCullough Subject: Re: Women in 'History of Psychology' In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 15 May 1992 18:46:24 EDT from for a reference list on the history of women in psychology, look at Rhoda Unger and Mary Crawford's new book published by McGraw Hill (Intro to Women's Studies ). Also, Crawford and Gentry's Gender and Thought published by Springer Verlag has a very good chapter on this topic. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 09:40:06 MST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: nancy felipe russo Subject: Re: mail to feminist.mitvma -call In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 19 May 1992 15:48:40 EDT from Re the announcement on the Morehead State University's conference on families-- can anyone tell us what "boomerang children" are? Nancy Felipe Russo, Ph.D. Director, Women's Studies ASU, Tempe, AZ 85287-1801 (602)965-2358 FAX:(602)965-2357 BITNET: ATNFR@ASUACAD ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 12:14:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "KATHLEEN GILBERT" Subject: boomerang children To Nancy Felipe Russo's request for a definition of boomerang children-- these are adult children who have flown the nest and, for a variety of reasons, have flown back. The term I've heard more often is "baby boomerangers" (as in baby boomers that, once you toss them out, they always return). Actually, given that we prize independence in the US culture, the notion that children will come back to stay with parents (often in a multigenerational household) is seen as a serious problem. The most common reasons for boomeranging are finishing college and living at home till they find a job , young couples living with parents until they can "get on their feet," usually to gather together a down-payment on a house, and women with dependent children returning to live with their parents for social support (both tangible and emotional). As you might expect, the bulk of the burden of care falls to the mother (sometimes by default, mother may be divorced or widowed--more often by design, the maternal role). From my reading of the literature, it's quite stressful for all involved, battles over power , expectations of role performance. Some families collapse under the strain, some have the boomeranger(s) move out as soon as they can--some willingly, some not. When we discussed this in class, one of my students told me about "a family I know" in which this was a problem. Seems the two sons moved back in after they'd tried living on their own and didn't like it. Mom and Dad hinted about moving out and the kids didn't take the hint. So the parents actually bought a condo out of state and moved! Not only that, they didn't sell the house they'd been living in--as of my student's telling of the story, the kids were still in the family home. May be a folk tale of the '90's, but it's interesting. Kathy Gilbert GILBERTK@KENNETH ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 12:18:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "KATHLEEN GILBERT" Subject: the post I just sent The address on my last post should read: GILBERTK@IUBACS, not what was posted. I was talking to a student--you guessed it--named Kenneth as I typed it in. Sorry :-) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 13:02:32 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "susan sue contratto" Subject: Feminist Pedagogy and men in class Last year and for 8 weeks this fall, I will run a feminist pedagogy support group for graduate students teaching in our women's studies program. Last year we spent an inordinate amount of time talking about the troublesome man in the classroom prob- lem. Does anyone know of any readings on this topic? Also, I am new to the list. Are there times in the past when this iss ue and others about teaching have been discussed extensively? Could someone let me know if this is the case. Thanks Susan Contratto Susan.Contratto@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU (internet) USER=LNQH@UMICHUM (Bitnet) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 11:15:24 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Betty J Glass Subject: Re: mail to feminist.mitvma -call In-Reply-To: nancy felipe russo "Re: mail to feminist.mitvma -call" (May 20, 9:40am) Boomerang children sounds like the ones that come back: as in after college, to live with (off of) their long-suffering parents who once saw an end to the tunnel. 8-) Betty Glass ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 14:50:24 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: PHILDON@MOREKYPR.BITNET Subject: boomerang children Hi, nancy and all others who are wondering about this term, 'boomerang children'. The term refers to adult children who for a variety of reasons (divorce, loss of job, finiancial difficulties, etc.) return to h=their parents' home to live. There are many problems associated with these moves: financial difficulties for the parents, responsibilities of children, semantics regarding who makes decisions, return to parent/child interactions, to name a few. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 14:54:52 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: PHILDON@MOREKYPR.BITNET Subject: boomerang kids Well, I had not read "all" my mail when I sent the last message. Like kathy G., I know of a case where parents moved from their spacious home to a very small home with lots of land, just to escape the children. The children came anyway and after the parents put movile homes all over their property, they finally gave up and moved back to a large home to accomodate all of the kids. Seems to me like a litle tough love is in order here! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 15:08:15 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Jayati Lal" Subject: WID job opening Could the person who just posted the one semster (Spring 1993) job opening in the Washington area please resend that message to me personally at the address below? I accidentally deleted the message while making space for the large volume of new mail received last week. Thanks -- Jayati. Jayati Lal 323 Uris Hall Bitnet: kx8j@cornella.bitnet Department of Sociology Internet: kx8j@cornellacit.cornell.edu Cornell University Ithaca, N.Y. 14853-7601 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 15:26:08 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: WRI@VTVM1.BITNET Subject: Feminist pedagogy for engineers I am preparing a workshop for engineering graduate students and would like to include some feminist pedagogy techniques. I have information about the feminist science classroom (biology, nursing, primatology), but I haven't been able to find anything about mathematics or engineering. Any resources or people I can contact? Thanks. Carol J. Burger Director, Women's Research Institute Virginia Tech wri@vtvm1.bitnet wri@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 15:48:41 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: jpotuche@CC.GETTYSBURG.EDU Subject: RE:Feminist pedagogy for engineers This is a response to Carol Burger's query. Sue Rosser's book *Female- Friendly Science* (New York: Pergamon Press, 1990) does include some information (albeit not much) specifically about engineering and math. A better source for you may be Elizabeth Fennema and Gilah Leder (eds.), *Mathematics and Gender* (New York: Teachers College Press, 1990). A final resource that I can suggest is the Penn State National Space Grant College & Fellowship Program at Pennsylvania State University. They are sponsoring a conference next week entitled "Recruitment and Retention of Women in Science, Engineering and Math: What Works?" The director of the Space Grant Program is Dr. Sylvia Stein. The contact person for the conference is Karen Wynn, 10 S. Frear, Penn State University, University Park, PA 16802 (telephone: 814-863-8286). I hope this helps. Jean --------------- Jean L. Potuchek Women's Studies Bitnet: jpotuche@gburg Gettysburg College Internet:jpotuche@cc.gettysburg.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 13:59:29 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Betty J Glass Subject: Program Announcement Is the "Political Correctness" Backlash Controlling Women's Right to Know? Information Suppression in the Information Age is the theme of the Association of College & Research Libraries/ Women's Studies Section's program at the annual conference of the American Library Association in San Francisco. When: Monday, June 29, from 9:30 a.m.-12:30 p.m. Where: Moscone Center, Esplanade 306 Keynote Speaker: Gloria T. Hull, Professor of Women's Studies at the University of California at Santa Cruz, on: "Backlash and Talking Back: Maintaining Feminist Freedoms" Speaker: Christine Jenkins, doctoral candidate and former school librarian, on: "Old Problems, New Labels: P. C., Pressure Groups, and Library Service to Young People" Speaker: Ellen Broidy, History & Film Studies Librarian at the University of California at Irvine, on: "Serving Notice on Business as Usual: Women's Studies and the Academic Library" Non-librarians who will be in the San Francisco area on this date do not have to register to attend a program meeting. If you would like to visit the massive exhibit area, though, ask at the Registration Desks about a vi visitor's day pass. -- Betty Glass, Co-Chair, ACRL/Women's Studies Section 1992 Annual Conference Program Planning Committee ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 17:01:00 PST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: PCC@SBITP.BITNET Subject: texts for feminist drama course A grad student on my campus is designing a course on women and drama, to be offered jointly in a dramatic arts dept and a women's studies dept. She plans to cover the history of women in performance drama, way back in time and also cross-nationally. Can anyone suggest reading assignments and texts that have worked well in such courses? Pat Cohen pcc@sbitp.bitnet ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 11:02:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: CAROL KENT Subject: Films on Abortion Unfortunately, I didn't keep the address of the person who wanted titles of films on abortion. I'm not sure if you meant documentaries or fiction. Anyway, you may be interested in two mainstream films which were produced when abortion was illegal and deal with that subject: *Blue Denim* with Carol Lynley (1959) and *Love With The Proper Stranger* with Natalie Wood (1964). Carol Kent Georgetown University ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 21:13:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: "Education and Gender" syllabus available Beth Goldstein of the University of Kentucky has sent WMST-L her syllabus for a course entitled "Education and Gender." It has just been added to the SYLLABI FILELIST under the name EDUC_AND GENDER. Many thanks to Beth for this very valuable addition. To obtain a list of all available syllabi, send a mail message to LISTSERV@UMDD or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU that says: INDEX SYLLABI To obtain specific syllabi, send a message to the same address saying GET [FILENAME] SYLLABI, where "[FILENAME]" is the name of the file you want. For example, GET EDUC_AND GENDER SYLLABI . To obtain more than one syllabus, put each command on a separate line: GET EDUC_AND GENDER SYLLABI GET MUSIC PRFRMNCE SYLLABI GET URBAN SOC_MVTS SYLLABI If you have syllabi (in electronic form) that you'd like to contribute to the WMST-L files, please write to me privately at the addresses below, not via WMST-L. Many thanks. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 22:33:18 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Lucy Candib MD Subject: pregnancy and humor To the person looking for funny movies about pregnancy: I think it is admirable of you to want to help your friend with laughter, but I look at this issue a little differently. I think pregnancy raises a number of fears for all of us, some quite common (like fear of being fat, or ungainly, or out of control, or sick,) as well as fears unique to each person related to experiences of pregancies of people close to her (like her mother or sisters) that may have been frightening. Not to mention all the legitimately scary things that can (but don't usually) go wrong, and all the ways doctors try and succeed in scaring people. It seems to me important for someone (not usually her doctor) to help her identify what is so fearsome for her, so she can get past it to welcome the changes the pregnancy will inevitably bring. I think movies that poke fun at pregnancy run the risk of verifying exactly the things she's afraid of, and may not succeed in lightening her worries. In my work with pregnant women, I think people get to a place where they can laugh about how awkward and ungainly and impossibly amazing it all it, but I think they have to have accepted the process first. Just to make this submission to the list faintly academic, there is one book out about the experiences of pregnant therapists written from a psychoanalytic point of view: Fenster S, Phillips SB, Rapoport ERG. The Therapist's Pregnancy: Intrusion in the Analytic Space. Hillsdale, N.J.: Analytic Press, 1986. I realize this may not have been advice that you were soliciting, but I think about this one a lot. Lucy M. Candib, M.D. Family Health and Social Service Center 875 Main St. Worcester, Massachusetts 01610 508-756-3528 lcandib@umassmed.ummed.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 May 1992 23:17:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: ASHELDON@UMNACVX.BITNET Subject: Re: mail to feminist.mitvma -call Boomerang children are the ones who leave and then come back home to live, presumably as adults, and presumably because they can't adequately support themselves at the moment, are between jobs, etc. Amy Sheldon ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 May 1992 08:04:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: To stop mail or unsubscribe (repeat) Now that the semester is winding down, some of you will be permanently leaving your institutions and thus losing your e-mail accounts. Please remember to unsubscribe from WMST-L before you leave. To do this, send the following message to LISTSERV@UMDD (if you subscribed on Bitnet) or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU (if you subscribed on Internet): UNSUB WMST-L If you're not losing your account but are simply planning to be away for a few weeks--or for the summer--you needn't unsubscribe. You can simply have your WMST-L mail stopped temporarily. To do this, send the following message to LISTSERV@UMDD (if you subscribed on Bitnet) or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU (if you subscribed on Internet): SET WMST-L NOMAIL Please note that NOMAIL is one word. When you want mail to start arriving again, send the following message to the same address: SET WMST-L MAIL Note: BE SURE TO SEND ALL THESE MESSAGES TO LISTSERV, NOT TO WMST-L! You should receive a message from LISTSERV confirming whatever you've asked it to do. If you encounter difficulties sending your mail to LISTSERV's Bitnet address, try the Internet address (and vice versa). If neither address works, contact me PRIVATELY at the addresses below. DO NOT SEND MESSAGES TO WMST-L ABOUT YOUR SUBSCRIPTION PROBLEMS. I will be repeating this message fairly regularly as the semester comes to a close. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 May 1992 08:28:46 -0500 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: mlove@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU Subject: Re: boomerang kids This is the way our house came on the market. The people we had bought it from had moved there because the house they lived in was too big after the children moved out. Then, not only did they move back in, but they brought their children with them. So the couple did buy a condo--one bedroom! Sharon D. Michalove Academic Advisor, Department of History, UIUC 309 Gregory Hall, 810 South Wright Street Urbana, IL 61801 217-333-4145 mlove@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu ****************************************** "There is, indeed, no single quality of the cat that man could not emulate to his advantage." Carl van Vechten ******************************************* ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 May 1992 09:14:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Rodman, Barbara" Subject: feminist pedagogy Re: the request about feminist pedagogy-- Off the top of my head, I don't know an article specifically about the "troublesome man" problem; just what kind of trouble do you have in mind? The man who is present seemingly only to heckle? Or one who talks too much or too little? I'm not sure the same responses are helpful in every case. Perhaps some of the literature on the problems of workshop type classes in general would be helpful. The last two years, as part of our department's training of graduate ta's (in English) I worked up a series of descriptions of troublesome students (The But-I've-always-gotten-A's-before student, The Heckler, The Student-who-never-comes-to-class, etc.) and then gave them to small groups (3-5 people, including new ta's, experienced ta's, some "regular" faculty) for discussion. The descriptions included variations on the general theme, then encouraged the group to come up with suggestions for appropropriate responses. A follow-up question was, "What if that doesn't work? What would you do next?" It allowed for discussion of variations in personal style, consideration of more than one alternative, etc. One question was, have you been in classes where a problem like this occurred? Have you been the student involved? I've also suggested that we do a little role playing along these lines, allowing more experienced ta's to act out the various parts. Also, you may be interested in Kathleen Weiler's book, _Women Teaching for Change_. It is relatively recent and just out in paperback. I think it provides a wonderful analysis of what is feminist pedagogy and why it is significant--in fact, I bought a copy for my 20 year old daughter who is thinking of going into teaching, and she has been reading it for "fun." I'd be delighted to continue the discussion of feminist pedagogy with you and have appreciated the times this group shared teaching experiences (for example, the uses and misuses of journals was very helpful), but I'm not sure everyone else feels the same way. Feel free to contact me privately. Barb Rodman DITBR@TTACS1 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 May 1992 10:29:08 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: JOANNA Subject: Re: Women in 'History of Psychology' In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 20 May 1992 12:09:20 EDT from I THINK THE UNGER AND CRAWFORD BOOK IS CALLED WOMEN & GENDER:A FEMINIST PSYCHOLOGY. IT IS VERY GOOD. HAVE THEY ALSO DONE AN INTRO WOMEN'S STUDIES TEXT? ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 May 1992 11:22:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: WPSADGV@WMMVS.BITNET Subject: The Famine Within I would like ordering information for the film "The Famine Within" and our audio-visual department is having difficulty locating a source--does anyone have information readily available about where it can be obtained? Also, if you have used the film, would you recommend it? Thanks, Deborah G. Ventis, College of William and Mary WPSADGV@WMMVS ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 May 1992 13:29:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: RE: feminist pedagogy Earlier today, Barb Rodman wrote: > I'd be delighted to continue the discussion of feminist pedagogy > with you and have appreciated the times this group shared > teaching experiences (for example, the uses and misuses of > journals was very helpful), but I'm not sure everyone else feels > the same way. Feel free to contact me privately. I just thought I'd point out that WMST-L's focus is Women's Studies teaching, research, and program administration. It seems to me that discussions of feminist pedagogy would thus be very appropriate for the list as a whole. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 May 1992 16:11:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Arnie Kahn Subject: problem students >I'd be delighted to continue the discussion of feminist pedagogy >with you and have appreciated the times this group shared >teaching experiences (for example, the uses and misuses of >journals was very helpful), but I'm not sure everyone else feels >the same way. Feel free to contact me privately. I think this is the kind of discussion that belongs on WMST-L. I hope it doesn't become private. I'm very interested and I'll add a third type of problem student--the radical feminist who has on her own studied much of the material, dominates the class discussion, and won't allow more conservative students to express their views without attacking them. Arnie Kahn fac_askahn@jmuvax (bitnet) fac_askahn@vax1.acs.jmu.edu (internet) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 May 1992 17:22:14 MST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Donnie Curtis Subject: Literary mentorships I am posting this request for a colleague (Lynette Felber) who does not have access to e-mail. She is looking for references having to do with theory or speculation about cross-gendered literary mentorships or friendships (Anais Nin/Henry Miller, Dorothy Richardson/H.G. Wells, Mary Wollstonecraft/William Godwin, etc.). She is looking at dialogues with mentors in letters, diaries and fiction as a kind of gendered discourse, in which these women, in defin- ing themselves against male mentors, find their voices as women writers. She has also been asked by an editor to find some references to cross-gendered mentorship in sociology or psychology journals, but she hasn't found much that she can relate to literary mentorship. One help- ful article was a review article in Signs by Jeanne Spizer in 1981. If you want to reply directly, my address is (internet) dcurtis@lib.nmsu. edu or (bitnet) dcurtis@nmsu. Thanks in advance -- Donnie Curtis ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 22 May 1992 09:59:56 SST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Leong K Y Subject: Re: help in Singapore In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 14 May 1992 08:47:00 CDT from >I have a Filipina student whose sister lives in Singapore. Both were >"picture brides." My student suffered intolerable abuse before >divorcing. Her sister is in a similar situation. My question is: >is there a contact, through e-mail or other, in Singapore, who >could give the name and address of a women's group or shelter for >a non-citizen. The sister is mentioning suicide. I would appreciate >any insight anyone might have to offer. >Thank you. >By the way, I will be off e-mail for the summer beginning this >Monday, 18 May. >Consuelo Springfield >Women's Studies Dept. >University of Wisconsin-La Crosse >"springfi@uwlax.wisc. edu" I'm afraid I've just read the above message, but I can't reply to the person requesting this information personally as she is off e-mail. I wonder if anyone else can pass this information to her? There is an association here in Singapore called AWARE (The Association of Women for Action and Research). There is a telephone conselling service for women in crisis. The no. to call in Singapore is 293-1011. Its operating hours are 4-10 p.m. Monday to Friday. The centre is located at the following address and it is open 2-7 p.m. Monday to Friday. AWARE 64A Race Course Road Singapore 0821 Hope this information is of some help. Regards, Kah Yeun. ccevky@nusvm.bitnet ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 May 1992 20:18:00 PST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: JVASQUEZ@SCUACC.SCU.EDU Subject: Re: help in Singapore Perhaps you can call/write/e-mail some of the religious organizations in Singapore. Specific religious groups may be able to make some temporary arrangements for your friend. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 May 1992 21:51:00 MDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: LHAMPLYONS@CUDENVER.BITNET Subject: RE: feminist pedagogy Barb I hope you and others will continue the feminist pedagogy thread on the list, not in private Liz ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 May 1992 23:59:26 GMT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List Comments: Converted from OfficeVision to RFC822 by PUMP V2.2X Comments: Resent-From: "Linda Lopez McAlister/HYPATIA" From: "Linda Lopez McAlister/HYPATIA" Subject: Summer HYPATIA **********HYPATIA: A Journal of Feminist Philosophy************ Linda Lopez McAlister, ed. Women's Studies Dept., College of Arts and Sciences, University of South Florida, Tampa FL 33620 (813)974-5531 or *** Forwarding note from DLLAFAA --CFRVM 05/21/92 17:14 *** To: SWIP-L --CFRVM From: Linda Lopez McAlister/HYPATIA Subject: Summer HYPATIA The Spring, 1992 issue of HYPATIA, a special issue on feminist philosophy and language, is in libraries, bookstores and subscribers hands by now. Turning our attention to the summer issue, I thought some of you would like to see the table of contents. It has just gone to the typesetter so it should be out around the first of August. Here it is: TABLE OF CONTENTS HYPATIA 7(3) Summer, 1992 Andrea Nye A Woman's Thought or a Man's Discipline? The Letters of Abelard and Heloise Margaret Walker Feminism, Ethics, and the Question of Theory Maxine Sheets-Johnstone Corporeal Archetypes and Power: Preliminary Clarifications and Considerations of Sex Annie Prichard Antigone's Mirrors: Reflections on Moral Madness Melinda Vadas The Pornography/Civil Rights Ordinance v. The BOG: And the Winner Is...? Patricia Scaltas Virtue Without Gender in Socrates Larry May and Robert Strikwerda Male Friendship and Intimacy Julie Nelson Thinking About Gender Symposium on Susan Bordo's "Feminist Skepticism and the `Maleness' of Philo- sophy" Ann Garry Why Care About Gender? Judith Butler Response to Bordo's "Feminist Skepticism and the `Maleness' of Philosophy" Maureen Milligan Reflections on Feminist Scepticism, The "Maleness" of Philosophy and Post- modernism Linda Fisher Gender and Other Categories Jane Upin Applying the Concept of Gender: Unsettled Questions Susan Bernick Philosophy and Feminism: The Case of Susan Bordo Susan Bordo "Maleness" Revisited Book Reviews Amanda Leslie-Spinks Patterns of Dissonance: A Study of Women in Contemporary Philosophy. By ROSI BRAIDOTTI. New York: Routledge, 1991. Amy Morgan Thinking Through the Body. By JANE GALLOP. New York: Columbia University Press 1988 and Honey-Mad Women: Emancipatory Strategies in Women's Writing. By PATRICIA YAEGER. New York: Columbia University Press, 1988. Lori Gruen Rethinking Ecofeminist Politics. By JANET BIEHL. Boston: South End Press, 1991. S. Elise Peeples and A. D. Miller The Ship That Sailed into the Living Room: Sex and Intimacy Reconsidered. By SONIA JOHNSON. Estancia, N.M.: Wildfire Books, 1991. Notes on Contributors Announcements Calls for Papers/Guidelines for Contributors Books Received **********HYPATIA: A Journal of Feminist Philosophy************ Linda Lopez McAlister, ed. Women's Studies Dept., College of Arts and Sciences, University of South Florida, Tampa FL 33620 (813)974-5531 or ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 22 May 1992 08:40:22 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Anne Carson Subject: Re: Literary mentorships In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 21 May 1992 17:22:14 MST from Winifred Gerin, in her massive biography of Charlotte Bronte, writes at length about the "master-pupil" relationship which appears in Bronte's novels and which appears to have been based on Bronte's relationship with the older man she worked with (and loved) in Belgium. This is not mentorship in the profess- ional/artistic sense, but seems to be along the same lines. Anne Carson Cornell University Ithaca, NY ac3x@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 22 May 1992 08:46:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: DOREEN Subject: Dan Quayle and Murphy Brown While buried in end-of-semester work I managed to miss the comments of our illustrious VP on the topic of Ms. Brown's baby. Can anyone fill me in? Also, do people think Quayle is just babbling mindlessly on this one, or does he represent in some way the agenda/priorities of the government? Doreen MAttingly dmattingly@vax.clarku.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 22 May 1992 08:14:59 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Betty J Glass Subject: Re: Dan Quayle and Murphy Brown In-Reply-To: DOREEN "Dan Quayle and Murphy Brown" (May 22, 8:46am) I don't know about agendas/priorities, but I just heard a rumor that V.P. Quayle is recommending formal censure of retired Federal Marshall Matt Dillon for his lifestyle decision not to marry Miss Kitty, thus undermining family values and contributing to recent looting in L.A. 8-) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 22 May 1992 10:11:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: AA0383@UOKMVSA.BITNET Subject: male students I have been a student in women's studies courses, or courses focused on women's issues and in three of them there were male students. The first one was in a course on contemporary feminist thought, only one man was enrolled..maybe 15 women, he tried to dominate each discussion with personal experiences which appeared to be efforts to disassociate himself from the patriarchial structures under discussion. Most of the women in the class were "new" feminists, or just investigating this fascinating kind of thinking and looking at the world. The younger students (I'm a re-entry woman) wanted to meet him on his ground...combatively, at the very least in a confrontation that was angry and certainly not aimed at coming to a common ground. My mentor (and professor) consistently met him with comments that first validated him point of view and then, focused dispassionately on the subject of the course. The one I remember best was "I'm sure that's true, Charles, but this course is focusing on women and women's issues first." She assigned one of the "women returning" to him...that is when we were in small groups..the assigned person..sat directly across from him gave him full eye-contact, and talked to him as an equal, after a time, he began to miss classes and then dropped out altogether. In another course, the man would pop up with full-blown descriptions of sexual harrassment that he had received at the hands of female supervisers and workers. Much to the dismay of the other students he tried to answer every point that was made by any other student as well as the professor , thus dominating the class time. In this instance--"Counseling Women" was the course--the students took the matter into their own hands and began using reflective techniques with him as if he were a counseling client...he did respond well, and after a 4 class absence returned to finish the course. But it was clear all through the course that he didn't get it. In my own class I told the student who was taking intersession class so he could play baseball in the spring semester that I knew the material was new to him, and that he might be uncomfortable, but we welcome discussions of difference, and he was invited to take part any time, but that the course was focusses in feminist research issues, In addition I asked that when he came to class each day as well as when he read or otherwise prepared for class, that he put on a pair of glasses called "feminism" and wear them understanding that he was taking on a new point of view, like trying on clothes or glass frames. I also told him that I was not trying to convert him, and he could do anything he wanted to with the glasses when he left the classroom. The entire class enjoyed the process and the image. In a larger class, a male student came to visit for one day in order to help him decide about enrolling. We did small group work and then processed the material. In the group which contained the male student, each member had been conscious of the fact that all looked to the man for approval and deferred to him when he chose to talk. When this was aired he remained silent and refused to engage with the subject. However, he did not enroll in the course. These matters seem to me to be connected to level of feminist thought development. The intro class is a different matter from the advanced course where often the experienced women students in the class will take up the matter themselves. However, the intro course needs firm focus on discussion of difference and validation of personal experience as part of the theoretical presentation. Indeed, domination, subordination, difference and acceptance of other points of view is necessary early in the class. There is no reason that the intro class should not be aware of the process that is going on in their own classroom. Sometimes, this diffuses issues and gives all the students some distance without discounting their passion and individual difference. Jane Quaid Rickman, WS U of OK ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 22 May 1992 09:31:48 MDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: daniels@HG.ULETH.CA Subject: Re: Dan Quayle and Murphy Brown great response from betty glass!!! it is interesting that the v.p. was most concerned that so-far-unnamed- baby boy brown will not have a male role model. what about frank and jim and miles and phil and eldon. sure, you might say... well they are all a bit weird, but they would not be any less weird if murphy were to have married one of them! it will be fun to see how all this unfolds next season. assuming the new writers (diane english, if you are on this list,....why are you leaving the show????) keep up the political issues position of the show to date. there will have to be plot lines regarding maternity leave, access to child care, child care in the work place, gender socialization, boy toys vs girl toys, crib safety... the list could go. how will the v.p. respond to those issues which have little or nothing to do with being married and having a father in the home (unless he stays home with the kids, that is.)? this tv series has become important and maybe we need to thank the v.p. for bringing this forward. murphy would have been trashed if she had had an abortion. now she is being trashed for having the baby (in other words not having the abortion). this real-life rock/hard place reality for many women should be kpet front and centre in the election races from now until november! dayna daniels DANIELS@HG.ULETH.CA ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 May 1992 12:27:35 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Ginny Daley Subject: women's movement research i am working with a history graduate student who is in the early stages of shaping her dissertation topic. she wants to focus on the WOMEN'S LIBERATION MOVEMENT and maybe the ROLE OF SEXUALITY in the movement. i have been helping her locate primary resources (archival records, folks to interview, etc.) does anyone have suggestions for resources (people, manuscripts)? she is familiar with the published sources. do you know of anyone else doing research on the women's liberation movement or sexuality during this time period that she might be able to contact? i seem to remember some discussion of former REDSTOCKING women? did anyone compile the list of who is where and doing what? please respond to me privately and thanks for any insights! ginny daley women's studies archivist/bibliographer duke university vld@mail.lib.duke.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 22 May 1992 11:36:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: UAHSEF01@UAHVAX1.BITNET Subject: RE: Dan Quayle and Murphy Brown Dan Quayle and Murphy Brown are threatening to become the biggest non-issue of the campaign year. After two tough week where the administration has had to deal with the realities of 12 years of urban and social neglect I believe they are trying to sidestep the harder issues by going back to those good old "family values" issues that worked so well for Ronald Reagan (who, according to his own daughter, does not have the slightest idea how one might incorporate family values into family life). The story has broken down something like this. On Tuesday Quayle delivered a speech in San Fransicso where he blamed the riots in LA on the breakdown of family values. He criticized father who leave their families (rather weakly as I recall) and then claimed that it doesn't help when television shows such as Murphy Brown golrify unwed motherhood and call it just another lifestyle choice. Diane English, creator of Murphy brown, issues a statement to the effect that if the VP thought single mothers were a disgrace then he needed to work to make sure that abortion remained safe and legal in this country. Marlin Fitzwater, the White house press secretary the next day criticized the Murphy Brown show for depicting a successful woman ( a role model) having an illegitimate child. Later, after he was reminded that the TV character could have had an abortion, Fitzwater praised the show for extolling pro-life values. Quayle has refused to back down on the issue and has spent the last two days condeming the media for its lack of family values and for promoting or glorifying illegitimacy. Bush has avoided the issue directly so far except to say that he believes in the "family values thing." Clinton has come out in favor of family values (really risky political move there) but is criticizing the president and vp for using the Brown issue to serve as a smokescreen to cover the "real" issues. This morning Hillary Clinton said that Quayle may have done the country a service by bringing this issue to light, because it renews focus on family values. The important questions here, I think, are obviously not about promoting family values, but the obvious implications that anything other than a two-parent (mother/father) unit cannot be a real family and as such, all those single parents cannot instill family values in their children--or any values for that matter. Moreover, the issue of illegitimacy is something that is disgraceful in this country according to Quayle. It doesn't take much imagination to figure out what these comment might do to the self esteem of children who have been born to single mothers. Finally, this issue does remove the administration from rhetoric dealing with substantive issues like poverty and homelessness, and joblessness, and puts it back on a level where they can talk a good game without having to do anything about it. Sorry this posting has gone on for so long--but I've spent the last few days steaming. it sort of makes single me go out and have a baby just for spite ;-). Susan Fillippeli UAHSEF01@UAHVAX1 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 22 May 1992 11:33:20 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: carole marmell Subject: Re: Dan Quayle and Murphy Brown In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 22 May 1992 09:31:48 MDT from Bad news, group: today's Houston Post carried the results of a telephone survey (unscientific, of course) that asked if readers agreed with Danny or Murphy. This question had the largest response of any, with 12,000 replies, edging out the previous largest, Thomas/Hill. Ready for this? 85% agreed with Quayle. I'll bet (also unscientific) that cities with crime rates out of control are desperate to believe in simple solutions. (Maybe that's why Houston has a teen curfew.) The point is, that just because all of us agree with each other doesn't make us the majority. Carole Marmell/Univ of Houston socwlr @ uhupvm1 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 22 May 1992 15:30:44 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: PHILDON@MOREKYPR.BITNET Subject: Thank you I just wanted to let the Women's Studies list know that this morning our Board of Regents passed the Women's Studies Minor, with two courses: Introduction to Women's Studies and the Capstone. The chairperson of the BOR's only comment was one of commendation. There were no negative votes. We are very grateful to those of you who aided us when we had questions regarding how certain elements could be worded or enacted. You were very supportive and we want you to know your support and encouragement were carried with us this morning. Thank you! Donna Phillips and the AD Hoc Committee on Women's Studies Morehead State University ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 22 May 1992 18:57:25 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "L. THIELEN-WILSON" Subject: Re: problem students Arnie: I'm a little reluctant to express my curiosity here, but the radical feminist in me is forcing me to do so. Why do you characterize the problem student who has studied much feminist theory, "dominates the class discussion, and won't allow more conservative students to express their views without attacking them" as RADICAL FEMINIST??????? Leslie Thielen-Wilson ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 22 May 1992 17:04:00 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "ELIZABETH HERR 'HERR_B@CUBLDR.Colorado.EDU'" Subject: Re: Dan Quayle and Murphy Brown There was a very interesting debate on the MacNeil/Lehrer report on TV last night about the last "family issue debate" spawned by Quayle's Murphy Brown remark. There were five panelists, 3 men, 2 women, from various angles of the family policy, welfare, public policy discussion. There seems to be a strong willingness to pick up on this issue by all sides. The women were very concerned about the recent round of motherbashing, both working with welfare recipients and the black community in large cities. The men were policy consultants and analysts. I didn't see the full debate - no time- but it seems that family issues will be a rather heated election issue. Stay tuned for more, as the media and voters pick it up, I guess. namaste, Elizabeth Herr Herr_B@cubldr.colorado.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 22 May 1992 22:33:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Arnie Kahn Subject: radical feminist label >Arnie: I'm a little reluctant to express my curiosity here, but the >radical feminist in me is forcing me to do so. Why do you characterize >the problem student who has studied much feminist theory, "dominates >the class discussion, and won't allow more conservative students to >express their views without attacking them" as RADICAL FEMINIST??????? > >Leslie Thielen-Wilson I called them "radical feminists" because they were more "radical" than the other members of the class. Perhaps it was an unfortunate phrase that has other, and positive meanings, in other contexts. I should have used the phrase, "more sophisticated about sexism and the oppression of women than other members of the class." Arnie Kahn fac_askahn@jmuvax (bitnet) fac_askahn@vax1.acs.jmu.edu (internet) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 22 May 1992 21:19:27 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Kathryn Kerns" I've been watching the Murphy Brown debate with considerable interest and not a small amount of anger. I first heard these opinions of Linda Chavez and another conservative woman on a public TV program on Sunday--I forget the title of the program because I stumbled onto it midway through--something like "To the Contrary." I am a single mother at 45 having adopted my grand nephew last year. My niece decided to carry her baby to birth then give it up for adoption. I was fortunate in that she decided she'd really like to have me adopt it. I cut the cord at birth and the midwives at the birthing center put him into my arms and we've been together ever since. He is now going on 15 months old and thriving. I have noticed an interesting reaction from people who are more conservative. When they hear I have adopted a child as a single woman, they seem disturbed, but when they hear he is related to me, all is well--I have kept him in the family. My anger at the stupid comments I've heard of late has to do with the assumption that any man is better than no man. Studies seem to show that kids do better with a man in the family, but why do they do better? I seem to recall having seen studies where much of difference could be explained by the greater wealth that a family could enjoy because women are still not paid equitably. Some fathers are abusive. I really cannot believe that children are better off with them. And, I realize that some mothers are abusive and I would not recommend children being forced to live with them either. One of the women on the McNeil Lehrer (sp?) show pointed out that one of the reasons that there were so many single parent families was that women were not putting up with the violence as women in the past had done. The other woman pointed out that everyone seems to be assuming that single mothers are all women who had children out of wedlock when many have been abandoned. I wish someone would force Quayle to read The Hearts of Men and maybe a few books on abuse. Kathy Kerns cn.kmk@stanford ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 23 May 1992 07:54:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Patricia McRae" Subject: Re: Thank you In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 22 May 1992 15:30:44 EDT from I would like to add to the good news of Donna Phillips and announce that the Certificate of Graduate Study in Women's Studies passed the final hurdle at the Commission on Higher Education on May 7, 1992. The University of South Carolina will begin to offer the certificate in August 1992. Those interested in learning more about the program may contact Dr. Sue Rosser, Women's Studies Program, 1710 College Street, Columbia, S.C. 29208, (803) 777-4007) Once again power through unity. Patricia McRae Government and International Studies University of South Carolina ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 23 May 1992 08:00:22 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Patricia" In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 22 May 1992 21:19:27 PDT from The whole debate around family values focusing on the remarks of Dan Quayle and directed toward Murphy Brown brings back painful memories of the past and exa- cerbates current situations where a woman is considered *not a woman* if she is not married, nor has been able to keep a marriage together [note the wording here..her responsibility] After my divorce my daughters and I had to reformu- late what being a family meant..there were men in our lives, certainly, [I am Irish/Mexican and part of a rather large extended family]. I found I had to go back to my culture away from the concept of nuclear family to rediscover ideas like "Children are *our* children"; where there was a more communal approach to a family's survival. When I became a *re-entry* student I found myself adrift in terms of role models for how *do* women do things like returning to school when there is no husband/family to support them. Sadly in feminist theory classes I studied there was a quite limited if none existent discussion of *the family* and alternative visions of what that might look like. All of this with a total lack of awareness of how discounting of a woman's value such appro aches bear. Fortunately, a friend gave me a copy of Gloria Anzaldua's book, THE BORDERLANDS: LA FRONTERA where she talks about reclaiming what is useful from a patriarchal past. My daughters are grown married women with children of their own now and I am approaching the mid-century mark as I finish my dissertation and prepare to accept my first *official* teaching post. And, again, I find myself unanchored in terms of how to value who I am as a woman. The relationship with my child- ren is changing [not better or worse, but different]; I am viewed differently [since my children are no where in evidence nor is there a man in evidence] and I'm not sure how to deal with the same...that is to say, the tune is familiar but I don't know the dance steps. I am valued for the work I do, but not even acknowledged as being a woman, something I've rather liked and enjoyed for many years now. And now the politician's are again finding their voice on this, and like others on the list I find myself angry. I disagree that there is little lost if there is not a father present..it depends on how one defines father. Certainly my daughters and I lost something by there not being a father/husband who was a caring parent and husband in our household. Uncles, godfathers, male cousins all remain important members of our circle...and...that is different from an in-house father/husband. Does that make it untenable that a woman cannot rear a child as a single parent? Certainly not. And I find it sad beyond belief that such efforts which are often truly valiant in nature have once again drawn criticism to the woman for failing to instill family values, however weakly and ambiguously they are being defined. While I realize this might be skirting the purpose of the list and before Joan feels obliged, let me ask: Are there any courses out there being taught in such a way as to explore a redefinition of family; or explores the defini- tion of responsibility in terms of family [responsibiity is learned]; or if family values such as being discussed by Quayle, et al, are so important, is there a strongers sense of holding males responsible for their role as fathers being taught in classes or, alternatively, are women being taught that perhaps sometimes we've let men, including our male children off a bit too easily in terms of self-responsibility? I would be interested in hearing from some of you who teach directly in Women's Studies courses on some/all of these topics. Patricia McRae Government and International Studies University of South Carolina T350134@UNIVSCVM ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 23 May 1992 18:49:17 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "L. THIELEN-WILSON" Subject: Re: feminist pedagogy Several years ago, out of desperation in trying to cope with two "problem students", I wrote the following guidelines for group discussion/interaction. Ever since then, I distribute these guidelines to my students on the FIRST day of class. I discuss the ways in which power operates within/through language and "speech", and how we (anyone) can be racist or sexist or [ ] despite our good intentions. In fact, even if the course I am teaching is not explicitly feminist, I require students to read the three articles listed below. Explicitly feminist courses have additional readings. I have found that distributing these guidelines on the first day of class AS WELL AS: emphasizing group work and round table discussions; requiring students to consider themselves and each other as valid sources of knowledge; requiring that students seek to understand why they believe and say the things they believe and say; and requiring students to critically reflect on the racist, sexist, homophobic, classist, able-bodiest, etc. assumptions that they themselves (and most of us) are likely working with, in effect, functions as a preventative measure against "problem students". At the very least, it enables me (and often other students) to directly address the problem student in class. For example, I can more easily interrupt George/ia in order to say, "o.k., let's hear from some of the other students on this issue". Or when a student expresses racist beliefs (which happens ad nauseum), I can urge her--along with myself and the entire class--to try to figure out why she (and lots of others) thinks/feels the way she does (this usually involves appeal to analysis of systemic oppression and critique of liberal individualist assumptions, including the assumption that a precondition for taking responsibility for changing oneself and the world is to establish individual "blame".) Setting the terms for discussion on the first day of classes means that students are less surprised and somewhat less threatened when I (or others) "challenge" what they say or how often they say it. I should add that since I have used these guide-lines, I have not had to act on the "threat" that concludes the discussion guide. I should also say, that while these guidelines may make some students think twice before they speak, our class discussions are typically very vibrant and a vast array of views are expressed and critiqued. Finally, I teach philosophy, and for both male-stream and explicitly feminist philosophy courses I require the students to read: Douglas Hofstadter's "Changes in Default Words and Images, Engendered by Rising Consciousness" (from his book Metamagical Themas: Questing for the Essence of Mind and Pattern); Robert Baker's "Pricks and Chicks: A Plea for Persons" (in S. Bishop and M. Weinzweig eds. Philosophy and Women), and; Maryann Ayim's "Wet Sponges and Band-Aids: A Gender Analysis of Speech Patterns" (in G. Nemiroff, ed. Women and Men: Interdisciplinary Readings on Gender). For my explicitly feminist courses I also have students read works which emphasize the ways in which language functions to help create oppressive realities. Marilyn Frye's book "The Politics of Reality" and Audre Lorde's book "Sister Outsider", are especially helpful (and interesting!) in this regard. Students either love or hate these last two texts, and either way, terrific discussion ensues. I apologize for taking up so much e-mail space. Below are the guide-lines I use. I would be interested in any feed-back, positive or negative. Leslie Thielen-Wilson lthiwil@uwovax.bitnet ------------------------------------------------------------- GUIDELINES FOR GROUP DISCUSSION--L. Thielen-Wilson GOAL OF DISCUSSION: To communicate with one another in a manner which encourages everyone--especially the timid and the inarticulate--to feel free to express their thoughts and concerns; to maintain a level of integrity and honesty in the conversation, to understand what people are saying, and why, and- -of course--to work together towards clarifying the concepts, issues, questions, etc. at hand. I. GROUP RESPONSIBILITIES (Including ALL listeners and speakers): 1. Sit so that you can see everyone and everyone can see you. 2. No sub-group discussions, exchange of comments, or whispering. Only ONE person should speak at a time. 3. Keep eyes and ears open (literally). Be sensitive to signs which would indicate that others want to speak. ANYONE who notices that someone wants to speak should help that person to do so (e.g., let the rest of the group know). 4. Feel free to point out (in a "nice" way) when you think that someone is not observing the discussion guidelines (e.g., they are hogging the conversation or being rude to someone). II. LISTENERS' RESPONSIBILITIES 5. LISTEN. Give the speaker your full attention. Wait until the person speaking has finished speaking before you speak. DO NOT INTERRUPT. 6. Don't withdraw when you hear things you disagree with. If the conversation gets "heated", try to understand why the speaker feels angry. Ask questions, lend support, etc. III. SPEAKER'S RESPONSIBILITIES 7. Don't make others have to interrupt you. Be aware of the time you are using: how often do you speak in comparison to others? Is the discussion time divided up more or less equally among members? 8. Be ULTRA-sensitive to signs of others trying to speak. 9. DO NOT raise your voice to drown out others. 10. Don't preach or be judgmental. It is fine to have strong opinions and beliefs, but don't present these as the final word on the matter. Keep the conversation going. 11. Try to express not only what you believe, but why you believe it. Be self-reflective: challenge your own assumptions. (OVER) 12. When others say things you disagree with, begin by giving them the benefit of the doubt: find out if you have understood them correctly. Ask for clarification, etc. If you still disagree, explain why you disagree, WITHOUT PERSECUTING the other. 13. Try to encourage others to join in the conversation. Create a relaxed atmosphere. Ask questions which people might feel they can respond to. Ask for people's opinions about some topic you have been thinking about or something you can't figure out. Philosophy is--among other things--a quest for conceptual clarity and "the best possible reasons" for holding some beliefs as opposed to others. Some people think philosophy is the quest for truth. Whatever it is, it requires that we keep the conversation going. Adversarial attitudes and tactics tend to silence people, and this is obviously counter-productive for philosophers. We can--and ought to--learn how to be critical and rigorous thinkers in a way that does not depend on undermining others. This is indeed one of my goals for the students in this course. The above guidelines are a step towards such a goal. NB* I expect students to take these guidelines seriously, and to be committed to working towards creating a non-adversarial, anti- sexist, anti-racist, anti-classist (...) classroom environment. Learning to recognize sexism, racism, and classism will take some practice (it is part of what this course is all about), and of course, mistakes will be made by many of us in the course of our learning. However, should any student choose to disregard these guidelines and manifest inappropriate (i.e., hurtful, violent, disrespectful) ways of interacting and communicating his/her beliefs, s/he will be asked to leave the classroom. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 23 May 1992 23:15:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: Two reminders I'd like to offer two brief reminders. Yes, many of you can probably guess what one of them is, but the other may not be so apparent, so I'll start with that one. 1) Please include a subject header (preferably an accurate subject header) whenever you send a message to the list. In addition to making it easier for your fellow subcribers to decide whether to read your message, you'll also make it possible for me to include your message in the daily digest. Because of the primitive macros that I use to construct the digest, I CANNOT include messages that lack a subject header. And now the reminder you've all been waiting for :-) : 2) WMST-L is not the appropriate forum for messages that deal with gender-related social issues (e.g., Dan Quayle and Murphy Brown). These messages should be sent to GENDER, FEMAIL, WOMEN, or some of the other lists set up to deal with such issues. For more information about such lists, see section 12 of the WMST-L User's Guide. If you've deleted your copy of this Source of Profound Wisdom, you can retrieve one from the WMST-L filelist by sending the following message to LISTSERV@UMDD (Bitnet) or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU (Internet): GET GUIDE WMST-L Many thanks for your understanding and cooperation. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 23 May 1992 20:22:50 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: John FROST Subject: Re: WS clip art In-Reply-To: <9205142114.AB14433@lclark.edu> Hi, you posted a request for WS clip art a few weeks ago. I was wondering if you had had any responses to you quest yet. I too am still looking and haven't found anything... But I do have many sites for Mac users....of normal clip art...actually just one or two sites...with good stuff. frost ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 25 May 1992 10:10:54 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Susan Drain Subject: RE: Dan Quayle and Murphy Brown In-Reply-To: <9205222318.AA06321@epas.utoronto.ca>; from "UAHSEF01@UAHVAX1.BITNET" at May 22, 92 11:36 am I'd like to raise another point about "Murphy Brown" -- my first reaction on hearing Quayle's statement about the last show was both anger and a kind of relief -- anger for all the reasons that posters to this list have identified, and relief because I could see that the backlash against women is still not a conspiracy. You see, the first Murphy Brown show I've seen was last week's (I was visiting my seventy-year-old mother, who tells me "Murphy Brown" has been going steadily downhill over the past year, but is still more worth watching than anything else outside public television). By the end of the programme I was _steaming_ and what looked to me like a betrayal of everything I thought this character was supposed to represent ... she was the butt of every cliched joke the writers could resurrect. And then, I'm choking again as I think about it, they capped w3it with that godawful singing of the song -- "you make me feel like a natural woman". You mean this woman had been unnatural all these years because she hadn't had a baby? All that career and those friendships were only a cover-up for the unnatural absence of motherhood? Right there, I was spluttering and pointing out to my mother how the backlash was operating, insisting on a single vision of womanhood, narrowing the range of "acceptable" choices for identity and fulfilment ... well, you know what I mean. The next morning I got up to the television clips of Quayle, and groaned at the overt backlash it represented (as opposed to the less obvious I had seen in the programme itself). I was slightly cheered, however, (the above-mentioned relief) to realize that the left hand of the backlash doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Quayle was attacking his allies, though he doesn't seem to understand that. let's not tell him. If the various forces of the backlash ever did get together, they might accomplish their repressive aims -- and it's too repressive out there already. Susan Drain English Victoria College, University of Toronto drain@epas.utoronto.ca P.S. Since I'm already taking up space, could I put in a plea for clearer identification from posters? When you sign your name with only an email address or an abbreviation (U of ABC, or the like), you might as well be anonymous -- there are people on this list well outside the boundaries of your state and nation, and they can't be expected to recognize cryptograms which may be locally familiar! :-) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 25 May 1992 09:27:22 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: elizabeth bounds Subject: the politics of grading As I reflect on my first year of teaching (one reason I haven't been very activ e onthe list), I have been thinking about grading and would like some help. Thi s year I have taught 4 larger classes (roughly 50 students each) and one semina r (10 students). I have no problems in assignments/grading in teh seminar which was on feminist ethics)--between class participation, journals, etc. I knew ho w hard people had worked and felt at ease with how I judged their work. he larg er classes are a different problem. They are core requirement religion courses filled with students with very little understanding of b humanities and often n ot very much interest. Grades were dependent on written work. I ended up with a B average which, to many students is easy grading (they have a different scale than I do). On the one hand, I am oposed to the hierarchy of grades, etc. (you know what I mean, I think). Onthe other hand, my commitment to critical thinki ng, the MAIN thing I hope they take away from my courses leads to me to try to figure out how grades can operat in that process. Further, I have tried to thin k about what forms of assignments can help the students to be more critical. Af ter listening to a colleague here I have been thinking about contract grading-- having each student contract for a set of assignments and a grade. Believing th at some of you must be doing this, I was wondering if any were using this syste m for larger calsses. ow do you balance grades based on the number of assignmen ts turned in in relation to the quality of the assignments. Do you hand out a c hecksheet suggesting criteria for grading the quality of assignments? Have you tried student grading , with students working in small groups? What about rewri ting--I allowed students to rewrite this past semester and wa pleased with the resultsz. The motivation was , of course, a good grade, but the motivation serv ed to let them work with me on being better writers. And, as I suspected, a sma ll enough number of the students were motivated to do this so tht my grading bu rden was not excessive. can be more specific, but want to put out these genera l questions and see what responses there are. I have to say, grading has been2 THE problem area this year for feminist/liberationist me! Elizabeth Bounds, Virginia Tech, Religion, Bounds at vtvm1/at vtvm1.cc.vt.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 25 May 1992 13:41:00 MDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: LHAMPLYONS@CUDENVER.BITNET Subject: RE: the politics of grading Virginia You might look into some of the writing on Writing Across the Curriculum; a good book is *Helping All Students Write Well* by Barbara Walvoord (sorry, I forget the pub.) If you are interested I cvuld send you a pamphlet a coleague and I wrote for the U of Michigan when I was there, *Every College Teacher A Writing Teacher*--I still have a few copies. Seems to me there's a strong WAC group in Virginia--talk to the Writing Program people at your school. Many schools have workshops and consulatnts available for faculty who want to get serious about student writing. (You describe your problems as abut grading, but if you had been doing MCQ assessment none of this would have arisen--you'd have ots of numbers and no sense at all of your students as thinkers, learners, people. Using writng for evaluation gives you all that, AND gives them tremendous learning opportunities. Sounds to me as though you've been doing most of the right things; some input might help you do them more efficiently. Liz Hamp-Lyons LHAMPLYONS@CUDENVER.bitnet LHAMPLYONS@CUDNVR.DENVER.COLORADO.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 26 May 1992 02:32:32 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: sorsha@WAM.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: thanks! In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 15 May 92 15:16:44 -0500. <9205151916.AA18173@umd5.umd.edu> Hi, Liz...sorry it took me so long to get back to you. Things have been a bit crazy lately, what with finals and the attendant anxiety. I don't have my materials withme right now, but I can give you an idea of what I used, and get back to you later with more specific info in about 10 days. One excellent source to look for is the issue of a periodical called RE/Search , issue entitled _Angry Women_. They do list information on how to reach Susie Bright personally, and they say where Valie Export teaches (somewhere around Wisconsin I think) and the publisher of Annie Sprinkle's new book. There are many other interesting women in there as well. I will send you that info as ssoon as I get the chance, just in case you can't find the periodical. You might want to try a women's bookstore if there are any near you. Good luck, Laurie -- ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* .Send burnt offerings to....."I don't FEEL tardy." - DLR.........IT'S GROOVE.. ...sorsha@wam.umd.edu..............................................O'CLOCK!... ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 26 May 1992 11:08:32 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Mary McCullough Subject: Re: Women in 'History of Psychology' In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 21 May 1992 10:29:08 EDT from Uger and Crawford's Women and Gender, published by McGraw Hill is the intro text in which there is a wealth of info. Also, Crawford and Gervasio's Gender and Thought has a very good historical piece in it by Crawford and Maracek Published by Springer Verlag. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 26 May 1992 11:13:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: Women writers syllabus available WMST-L's syllabi filelist continues to grow. Kris Montgomery has contributed her syllabus on Contemporary American Women Writers. It has been added to SYLLABI FILELIST under the title WOMEN WRITERS1. Here's an excerpt from her description: > In this course, which will be team-taught by Barbara Lesch > McCaffry and Kris Montgomery, we will be exploring a wide range of > fiction written by women since 1950. Our focus will be on unheard > voices including: Black, Asian, Native American, Chicana, and Jewish > women writers. We will also be reading works that deal with aging > and with utopias, as well as weaving in the voices of disabled, > lesbian and working-class writers. To get a copy of this syllabus, send a message to LISTSERV@UMDD (Bitnet) or LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU (Internet) that says: GET WOMEN WRITERS1 SYLLABI (Adding "SYLLABI" at the end simply tells LISTSERV that the file you're interest in is located in the SYLLABI FILELIST.) To get a list of all the syllabi currently on file, send LISTSERV a message that says INDEX SYLLABI. If you have syllabi in electronic form that you'd like to add to our collection, please write to me PRIVATELY at the addresses below. Many thanks to Kris for making WOMEN WRITERS1 available. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 26 May 1992 08:42:00 PST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: JVASQUEZ@SCUACC.SCU.EDU Subject: REDEFINITION OF THE FAMILY In terms of new courses which redefine the family, etc., you may want to look at some counseling psychology courses in this area. Since these professors have to be practical in working with families in therapy, they have a whole new changing view of the American family and other culturally different families. J.Vasquez Santa Clara University Santa Clara, CA 95053 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 26 May 1992 09:39:00 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "ELIZABETH HERR 'HERR_B@CUBLDR.Colorado.EDU'" Subject: women's lives and family values this is in answer to Pat's posting about women, life cycle and family values. no, I do not know about a course that deals with these issues, but I have found a very helpful book which tries to address the different life cycle experiences that modern women face: mother early on, divorces, single parent, student in mid thirties, etc, etc, etc,.. It is called "Making our Lives Our Own". It is more of a self-help book but I found it helpful, and cognizant of the different challenges that women are facing these days. I don't remember who the author is, unfortunately. It might make a good book to use in a course focusing on women's life cycle experiences. namaste Elizabeth Herr Herr_b@cubldr.colorado.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 26 May 1992 09:51:00 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "ELIZABETH HERR 'HERR_B@CUBLDR.Colorado.EDU'" Subject: Re: the politics of grading I used to teach a course on Latin American Development that was purely based on essay writing and discussion. Since I know that not everyone has the same background in writing, I added to my syllabus my grading criteria for essays, which I had adapted from an article on grading group assignments. There was a scale for content and presentation style (organization, clarity, logical flow, etc). I went over it with students, and urged them to use it as a guideline or outline when writing their essays. granted, it has patriarchal overtones, but I am not sure I disagree with defining criteria (which I felt were quite generally useful) and using them to grade students. At the end of the course, many students felt that the writing part had helped them immensely. Let me know if you want a copy (it is short!) either over the list, or privately. namaste Elizabeth Herr Herr_b@culbdr.colorado.edu (U of Colorado at Boulder) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 26 May 1992 12:10:33 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Stephanie Riger Subject: Re: REDEFINITION OF THE FAMILY In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 26 May 1992 08:42:00 PST from On Tue, 26 May 1992 08:42:00 PST said: This morning's (5/26/92) New York Times had a discussion of the changing form of the family that quoted such feminists as Barrie Thorne. As I remember ( I don't have it in front of me), it was a discussion of the multiple reasons why women are single parents. Stephanie Riger Univ of Il at CHicago bitnet: u29322@UICVM >In terms of new courses which redefine the family, etc., you may want to look >at some counseling psychology courses in this area. Since these professors >have to be practical in working with families in therapy, they have a whole >new changing view of the American family and other culturally different >families. > >J.Vasquez >Santa Clara University >Santa Clara, CA 95053 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 26 May 1992 13:27:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Susan A Holton Subject: Re: films on pregnant women No, I don't have any film ideas. But I did write a book, entitled The Mad Madonna (published by Bearly Limited Press in Buffalo, New York). The book is a compilation of interviews with over 200 women and men who "talk about" the emotional experiences during pregnancy. It covers the entire gamet of pregnancy - from the fears that people have, to the joys, it includes chapters on men's emotional reactions to pregnancy and the experience of being pregnant with multiples. If you can't find a copy at the bookstore (and it is likely that you won't be able to - the publisher was absolutely horrible about marketing the book) you can get it from me (cost with postage and handling is $14.00). Susan A Holton, President's Office, Bridgewater State College, Bridgewater, MA 02325 or you can call for more information about it 508-697-1201. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 26 May 1992 14:38:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Susan A Holton Subject: Re: the politics of grading You might also talk with your institution's Faculty Development Office - if one exists. I checked with my directory for POD (Professional and Organizational Development Network in Higher Education) - the preeminent organization for people who deal with issues of improving teaching and learning. At Virginia Tech, Larry Harris who is listed as the Exec Asst to the President, is a member of POD and ought to be able to give you either resources, or ideas on who to contact or what to read about issues of grading. Susan A Holton, Bridgewater State College, Bridgewater, MA 02324 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 26 May 1992 13:57:16 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Stephanie Riger Subject: CHILD CARE I AM SENDING THIS MESSAGE FOR I am sending this message for Margaret (Peg) Strobel, Co-chair of our Chancellor's Committee on the Status of Women, Univ of Il at CHicago: Do any institutions have creative ways of providing cheap, part-time childcare? Thanks, Peg c/o Stephanie Riger u29322@UICVM.bitnet ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 26 May 1992 18:15:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Barbara Marantz Subject: Re: the politics of grading Elizabeth, I for one would like to see a copy of the writing guideline referred to in your posting. If it doesnt seem appropriate to post to the list, could you send to me at bmarantz@snyescva.bitnet Thanks, Barbara Marantz bmarantz@snyescva.bitnet ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 26 May 1992 21:47:13 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Stephanie Riger Subject: Re: syllabi_on_nsm In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 2 Apr 1992 18:16:36 -0500 from On Thu, 2 Apr 1992 18:16:36 -0500 Antje Wiener said: >To all those who recently received disks with syllabi for classes on >gender and new social movements: > >in case you don't mind, I'd appreciate it, if you could send the disks >back, so that I can send them off to other people. >Thanks, Antje. >awiener@ccs.carleton.ca Antje, I would be happy to send the disk back, but I've lost your address. Thanks, Stephanie Riger, U of Il at Chicago, u29322@UICVM ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 26 May 1992 22:38:24 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Frances Wasserlein Subject: Re: info about men In-Reply-To: <9205082249.AA15086@whistler.sfu.ca>; from "ASHELDON@UMNACVX.BITNET" at May 8, 92 5:49 pm I've been away, so this is perhaps redundant or too late. I've found anything written by John Stoltenberg, _Refusing to be a Man_ and a couple selections in _Readings for Men Against Sexism_ {an old Times Change Press book} to be very helpful in describing and understanding male behaviour of many kinds. He's published many essays in periodicals, both popular and obscure, including New York Native. Frances_Wasserlein@sfu.ca ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 26 May 1992 23:19:52 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Frances Wasserlein Subject: Re: problem students/radical feminists In-Reply-To: <9205212228.AA00646@whistler.sfu.ca>; from "Arnie Kahn" at May 21, 92 4:11 pm The radical feminist who is taking up everyone's space, and filling it with her own analysis is perhaps the perfect candidate for some alternative kind of course completion, course challenge, or readings and papers. If she can be reached at all though, perhaps she'll respond most readily to a direct contact by students who are advocating for learning as opposed to indoctrin- ation. Small group discussions about process sometimes short circuit these over achieving types [I recognize this tendency as it was [perhaps sometimes still is] my own]. Frances_Wasserlein@sfu.ca ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 27 May 1992 08:23:00 CST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Dr. Judy Gibbons, Psychology, St. Louis University" Subject: Re: REDEFINITION OF THE FAMILY I would like to add my voice to requests for books, readings, on a feminist and cross-cultural definition of the healthy, functional family. This issue has been raised repeatedly in my classes. Someone mentioned a popular book to me (something like traits of a healthy family) but I didn't get the complete reference. Thanks for your help. Judy Gibbons Director of Women's Studies Saint Louis University GIBBONSJL@SLUVCA ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 27 May 1992 09:28:11 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "L. THIELEN-WILSON" Subject: preposterous guidelines I deleted a message sent to me privately from "Dean" (I am sorry I did not retain your full name Dean); but I think an issue he raised will be of interest to those on the general list who want to exchange ideas about feminist pedagogy. Dean mentioned that he found my guidelines for discussion to be "preposterous" for they fuel sexist assumptions about "female vs male" ways of reasoning and while they are perhaps workable for female-only groups, they certainly would not be workable for groups with men such as himself in them (as he likes to "dominate" in arguments). He raised a valid concern about the discomfort that male students might experience in my classes, and I would like to address that. I have never received any negative feed-back from male students about the guidelines either directly or indirectly (via course evaluations). That does not mean male students are not uncomfortable in my feminism courses, of course. But they tend not to drop out and they attend class regularly (a mixed blessing). It is true that male students in my feminism courses tend to be more "quiet" than the typical male student (to say that they are quiet is not to say that they do not speak at all). We actually spend a wee amount of class time talking about their reticence. I usually initiate the conversation, asking "the male students" why they are quiet. They typically reply that they feel out-numbered. I then ask them if being out-numbered makes them uncomfortable, do they worry that when they speak they will not be heard and/or that what they say will not be taken seriously. They answer "yes" (not surprisingly). We then discuss how they might use that experience as a resource for better understanding how women (and other oppressed groups of people) feel much of the time in academic settings where they are out-numbered by men, and also, how, in general, "speech" is "freer" for some than it is for others simply by virtue of the power dynamics of a given context (who gets to define what counts as important). I ask them to imagine what it might be like to be subjected to systemic silencing for most of one's life, and not for just a few hours a week. Thus, if (white, wealthy, heterosexual) male students feel discomfort in my classes, I think that might be a good thing. Male students who are sensitive to power dynamics in communication and who do not want to "dominate" discussions but who do have a lot to say, write their comments and insights down on paper and submit that to me, or they talk to me after class, or make an appointment with me to discuss course material. I should have mentioned in my first posting that I do not nail the guidelines to the class-room door and then stand around and wait for students to mess up so that I can boot them out. They function "merely" as a set of ground rules, which we spend the entire course aspiring to achieve. It is hard work negotiating all the various power imbalances AND getting clear on the theories we learn. But it really is worth the effort, I find. The only "rigid" rule is that violence (pounding of fists, shouting, making threats, telling someone to fuck off or shut up) is not tolerated in the slightest. L. Thielen-Wilson Philosophy Dept. University of Western Ontario London, Ontario. N6A 3K7 lthiwil@uwovax.uwo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 27 May 1992 10:25:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: MURPHY@GENESEO.BITNET Subject: Fiction Women and Law I am working on a syllabus for my women and Law class. I would like to finish the semester with a novel. Does anyone have any thoughts/suggestions? The course will be a broad overview of women as lawmakers, how the law regulates women, women in the legal profession etc. I'd like the book to be somewhat fun and optimistic to balance some of the other course content. Thanks Pat Murphy Murphy@geneseo.bitnet ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 27 May 1992 10:05:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Phyllis Holman Weisbard Subject: Jewish Women's Caucus at NWSA I am posting this along with Marilyn Mesh, Chair of the Jewish Women's Caucus, National Women's Studies Association: For interested people planning to attend the NWSA Conference in Austin, TX June 19-23: There will be a Jewish Women's Caucus Pre-Conference on Friday, June 19th, 9-4 in the Statesman's Room, Crest Hotel, and a Shabbat Service beginning at 6 p.m. in the Brazos Room of the Crest Hotel. Everyone interested is welcome to attend both events. Marilyn apologizes to caucus members that she has been unable to send out a newsletter announcing the events because the NWSA office has been unable to generate mailing labels for her (computer glitch), and she has no current list to work from. Please pass this information along to others you know of who are planning to attend NWSA. I am coordinating the Shabbat Service and would like to hear from other people who want to take part. Please reply to me privately. Phyllis Holman Weisbard (608) 263-5754 Acting Women's Studies Librarian pweis@wiscmacc (Bitnet) University of Wisconsin System pweis@macc.wisc.edu (Internet) Room 430 Memorial Library 728 State Street Madison, WI 53706 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 27 May 1992 11:27:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Arnie Kahn Subject: naming the enemy The following is an excerpt from an email letter from a friend who discusses the difficulty in getting women students in women's studies courses to recognize that men are the problem, and I think some good insights into why this is so. Arnie Kahn fac_askahn@jmuvax (bitnet) fac_askahn@vax1.acs.jmu.edu (internet) *********************************************************************** Another point -- I find that there is a sizable percentage of women in my gender courses who are concerned about 'male bashing' and concerned about the use of my position of power as instructor [ or perhaps as woman] to actually name the male participation in sexism. About 2 years ago two (black) football players were accused of raping a (white) undergraduate female-- she had gone to the dorm room of one where the rape took place. Campus police did not call city police until an extended number of hours had elapsed (about 6 - 10 hours), campus police removed sheets and towels and apparently disposed of them. The report was that the girl charged rape in her initial complaint, but after the police talked with her she changed the complaint to a less serious offense. The boys were never arrested or brought into custody. After a lapse of 4 or 5 more days the girl dropped the charges and left the university to return to her family home in Florida. When I brought up the events for discussion in the senior class the first remark was from a woman to the effect that 'I just hope (the charge) is really true, because otherwise these boys' reputations have been ruined' The class was generally concerned about the vulnerability of football players to various kinds of exploitation and damaging charges -- no one worried that a football player might feel so above normal social rules that he could (and in fact did) assault another student and end up justfied and suffer no penalty at all. Naming sexism, discrimination, prejudice, hostility as something enacted by men constitutes a very deep deep threat to women's sense of social order and predictability and normalacy. They would have to recogize themselves as vulnerable and potential victims not fully in control of their lives -- They would have to recognize themselves in some forms as slaves -- magical (sexual) slaves perhaps, slaves who can evoke gestures of courtliness and deference -- but slaves nevertheless. They would have to recognize that the male who they have written into their ideal life script as supportive companion, involved father, and social-economic partner, is in fact partly indifferent, self-centered, and not truly equal but in many respects of higher interpersonal status and power who has final approval of their economic wellbeing -- in other words, they would be sleeping with the enemy. They want emotional, psychological intimacy, attachment, and permanence with a man -- identifying men (collectively and the individual ones they know and love) as perpetrators of sexism, hostility, and violence means giving up their most important values and hopes for their life experiences. Men clearly don't like being called villains, but equally important, women don't like men being called villains. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 27 May 1992 11:39:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Mary McCullough Subject: Re: preposterous guidelines In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 27 May 1992 09:28:11 EDT from Re "proposterous} in my small group and women's studies courses for years and have found that they work, as you describe. I enjoyed seeing them (outside of my own syllabus) and encourage others to use what you so generously gave us! Mary McC ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 27 May 1992 11:49:23 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Mary McCullough Subject: Re: naming the enemy In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 27 May 1992 11:27:00 EST from Arie, About your sleeping with the enemy note, I would like to share this with my women's studies students, especially since they like to know interpretations "from a male perspective." May I do this? I also have them read John Stolten- berg so your note would compliment his work. Mary McCullough ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 27 May 1992 09:05:24 MST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: nancy felipe russo Subject: RE: the politics of grading In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 25 May 1992 13:41:00 MDT from What is an MCQ assessment? Nancy Felipe Russo, Ph.D. Director, Women's Studies ASU, Tempe, AZ 85287-1801 (602)965-2358 FAX:(602)965-2357 BITNET: ATNFR@ASUACAD ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 27 May 1992 13:11:27 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Wendy Thomas Subject: addiction in literature I have a researcher who is looking for contemporary women authors writing fiction about alcoholism or drug addiction. She is also interested in identifying women authors who are in recovery, as well as women who wrote "under the influence". I have come up with several lesbian authors, does anyone have any suggestions for women of color? Wendy Thomas Schlesinger Library, Radcliffe College WENDY@HARVARDA.HARVARD.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 27 May 1992 10:46:48 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Sarah Beasley Subject: Locating an author (Message is posted to FEMINIST as well) I am working with a researcher who is writing a book on environmental ethics and is including a chapter on ecofeminism. He would like to include statements which he found in an Earth Day Wall Street Action Handbook (April 23, 1990) and needs copyright permission. 1--One of the statements is the "Unity Statement of the Women's Pentagon Action." The booklet states that the Women's Pentagon Actions were intitated by the Women and Life on Earth conference which took place in Amherst in March of 1980. I am looking for any published information about the conference or about the statement. 2--Another essay in the handbook "Take Back the Earth" is by Chaia Heller of the Burlington Ecofeminist Network. The researcher contacted someone in Burlington who thought that Ms. Heller is in a PhD program somewhere. I would like to obtain an address for her if possible. If anyone has any information that could help in locating these items and ultimately obtaining publishing permission, I'd like to hear from you. You can respond directly: beasleys@ccmail.orst.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 27 May 1992 16:46:00 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "ELIZABETH HERR 'HERR_B@CUBLDR.Colorado.EDU'" Subject: Essay Grading Policy! Hi everyone, Considering the large interest in the essay grading outline, I will post it to the whole list. Thank you all for your interest. On rereading the outline, it does seem very linear, but it also offers a fairly complete description of what constitutes a complete scholarly paper. Let me know it any of you adapt it in any way. I am always looking for new ways to deal with the evaluation part of teaching. Good luck, and namaste (Hindu greeting: peace be with you) Elizabeth Herr Herr_b@cubldr.colorado.edu U of colorado, boulder ****************************************************************************** Grading Criteria for Essays and Papers. The following represents a set of criteria according to which your essays and papers are graded. The degree to which your essay or paper corresponds to the highest order criteria determines your grade. For example, an "A" on content/diagnosis, but a "B" on organization usually ends up an "A-" or "B+". I. Diagnosis of the Issue or Problem (Did the paper or essay identify relevant issues and problems and explain the causal relationships that led to these events) A Key strategic issues are identified and linked with relevant internal and external factors; analysis is supported by strong evidence AND logical arguments. B All aspects of key strategic issues are identified and the causes and consequences are EITHER logically explained, OR supported by evidence. C The major strategic issues are identified, but NO supporting evidence OR logical arguments were presented to convince the reader that the analyses are correct. D The problem diagnosis covers the correct topic areas, but is vague and without supporting facts. The essay or paper gives a bundle of information and does not distinguish important from unimportant points. F Few or no aspects of the strategic issues or problems are correctly identified, non-issues or non-symptoms are incorrectly assumed to be the problem. II. Organization of the Presentation A Essay or paper followed a logical order. All conclusions and recommendations were derived logically from evidence given. Each point was clearly linked to previous sections. Issues within each section were logically organized. B Essay or paper followed a generally logical order, but the reader was not able to anticipate what would come next. Most of the conclusions were derived from the evidence given. Topics were all covered, but some seemed out of sequence. C Essay or paper was hard to follow in parts. Topics were internally logically organized, but the flow of the overall essay or paper lacked a logical sequence. All important topics were covered at some point in the essay or paper. D Essay or paper was illogical. Most conclusions did not follow logically from the evidence given. Some claims were not supported. Some subjects were omitted. The essay or paper was difficult to follow. Transitions from one point to the next were haphazard. F The essay or paper did not follow any logical order. There were several internal inconsistencies among sections of the essay or paper, and the evidence was not always provided to support claims. No clear transitions were made between points of the essay or paper. * Adapted from: "Hitting the Bullseye with BARS (Behaviorally Anchored Rating Scales): A new solution to some traditional problems in education. Instructional Development, Fall Quarter 1989, Vol. VII. No.1 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 27 May 1992 17:31:00 -0700 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "ELIZABETH HERR 'HERR_B@CUBLDR.Colorado.EDU'" Subject: Re: addiction in literature sorry, I don't know about women of color in this aspect, but I do know a book about sexual addiction, if that interests you. Have you looked at Erica Jong's "Any Woman's Blues" ? It is a very powerful book about addiction, loss of self, and male/female relationships. It is one of those "read 'em in one sitting" books, and quite insightful as well as literarily (is that a word??) interesting. (forgive my literary transgression...as an economist that area is not my forte), namaste Elizabeth Herr Herr_b@cubldr.colorado.edu u of colorado at boulder ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 27 May 1992 16:58:00 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: susan koshy Subject: redefining family Since there has been so much discussion on definitions of the family, I thought the following essay might be useful. It provides a redefinition of home in the context of feminist politics. Chandra Mohanty and Biddy Martin, "Feminist Politics: What's Home Got to Do with It?" in Teresa de Lauretis ed. Feminist Studies, Critical Studies. Susan Koshy ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 27 May 1992 19:53:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Patt" Subject: Addiction in Literature Re: addiction literature for women of color: It wouldn't be fiction, but you might want to look at some biographies of Black female blues singers such as Bessie Smith, Josephine Baker, etc. There was a book put out by Da Capo Press [I think] called BROWN SUGAR..tracing historically black women performers, trials and tribulations. Although Daphne Duval Harrison doesn't deal explicit- ly with themes of addiction in BLACK PEARLS: BLUES QUEENS OF THE 1920s [Rutgers 1990], her bibliography is quite good and might be of use to you. You might also want to look at the early poetry of Nikki Giovanni. Sandra Maria Esteves has a wonderful book YERBA BUENA [Greenfield Review Press, 1980]...this is poetry, BTW and Sonia Sanchez as well as Jane Cortez address *issues* of addic- tion in their work. You might want to check out some of Maya Angelou's auto- biography from her *middle* as in adult period and you might look up older issues [I don't even know if it's still published] of 13TH MOON: A LITERARY MAGAZINE PUBLISHING WOMEN. Also try issues of REVISTA CHICANO REQUENO[Univer- sity of Houston] Hope this helps. Patricia McRae USC-Columbia ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 10:38:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: lesbian literature I just finished teaching an upper-level literature course entitled Perspectives on Women in Literature in which we read works (mostly fiction) by female authors focussing on women's experience. In the course evaluation, several students suggested adding a work that deals with lesbian experience. I've wanted to do so for quite a while, but I don't know of a suitable work. By "suitable" I mean several things: not inordinately long (preferably less than 400 pages), supportive of lesbian experience, and reasonably complex and well written. The only works that I can think of offhand are RUBYFRUIT JUNGLE, which I haven't read in many years but I remember as being enjoyable but not especially complex, and PATIENCE AND SARAH, which I found not all that interesting. I've never read THE WELL OF LONELINESS, though I've heard from others that it doesn't work so well in the classroom, especially not as the only work dealing with lesbianism. So....what else is out there? I'd love some suggestions of books that you think might work well in an upper-level literature course (or lower level, for that matter). Though the course deals mostly with fiction, there's nothing to stop me from including drama or poetry, so I'd welcome suggestions in all genres. Many thanks. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 10:48:41 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Jo Ellen Green Kaiser Subject: Re: naming the enemy In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 27 May 1992 11:27:00 EST from A recent posting to this list included an e-mail note from an acquaintance of the sender who was upset that her female students were reluctant to recognize male sexism. I certainly agree that many of my female students, especially the younger ones, are reluctant to engage in direct critiques of patriarchal power. However, I think that as teachers we can and should understand these students' reluctance to criticize male dominance and we should create an atmosphere which encourages our female students to rethink their position. These female students are still adolescents--in the middle of gender anxiety. They are very worried about their ability to attract members of the opposite sex, and to retain those men in lasting relationships (note I am assuming that these reluctant students are heterosexual-- I have never found gay students reluctant to criticize gender relations!) These women are worried that if they criticize male power structures, they will be categorized as "men-haters" and won't be able to make their way in the very complicated college social scene. I think that we as teachers don't encourage these students to rethink their positions if, as the writer I refer to did, we refer to men as "villains" and "the enemy" and to women as "slaves" and "victims". Such language only reinforces undergraduate fears. Instead, I think we need to be careful to distinguish between "men" and the roles which men (and women) often play in our society. Hope this posting--with its focus on women's studies' pedagogy-- is appropriate to the list. Jo Ellen (jgkais00@ukcc.uky.edu) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 11:01:21 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Patt" Subject: Re: lesbian literature In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 28 May 1992 10:38:00 EDT from Joan, BRIDGE CALLED MY BACK is a staple for readings on lesbianism for some time now. Also Gloria Anzaldua does a nice job of explaining lesbianism as *the other* in BORDERLANDS/LA FRONTERA. Poetry/essays by Marilyn Hacker are clear while dealing with the comlexity of a lesbian lifestyle that encompasses a family begun in a more traditional lifestyle. You might check out old issues of 13TH MOON: A LITERARY MAGAZINE PUBLISHING WOMEN. Patricia McRae University of South Carolina T350134@UNIVSCVM ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 08:30:00 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Leah Robin Subject: Re: lesbian literature How about CONFESSIONS OF A FAILED SOUTHERN LADY, BY Florence King, a semi-autobiographical work about her developing sexuality. Or possibly THE FEMALE MAN or ON STRIKE AGAINST GOD by Joanna Russ? FEMALE MAN is science fiction, and ON STRIKE AGAINST GOD is another semi-autobiographical novel, as is Audre Lorde's ZAMI, AN AUTOBIOMYTHOGRAPY. Leah Robin IZZYLV2@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 11:27:42 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "L. THIELEN-WILSON" Subject: Re: lesbian literature Try: Piece of My Heart: A Lesbian of Colour Anthology it's a collection of short-fiction, short-non-fiction, and poetry. Anthologized by : Makeda Silvera Toronto: Sister Vision Press, 1991. I have just begun to read it, and it is terrific thus far!! It is 378 pages long and contains work by authors such as Audre Lorde, Beth Brant, Ling Hua Chen, Nalini Singh, and many many more! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 11:35:18 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Mary McCullough Subject: Re: lesbian literature In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 28 May 1992 10:38:00 EDT from Some resources for a women and lit course where you want to work on lesbian experiences: Becky Birtha's For Nights Like this One: Stories of Loving Women. east Palo Alto, CA: Frog in the Well Press, 1983 Becky Birtha's Forbidden Poems (citation missing). Louise Rafkin's Different Daughters: A book by Mothers of Lesbian s. Pittsburgh: Cleis Press, 1987. Louise Rafkins' Unholy Alliances. Claie Press, 1988. Sheila Ortiz Taylor's Spring Forward/Fall Back and Faultlines (2 novels) Tallahassee, FL: aiad Press. Maureen Brady's Folly. Trumasburg Press, NY: Crossing Press, 1982 Also, Naiad Press can supply more titles. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 11:05:00 -0500 Reply-To: Eric Grumdahl Sender: Women's Studies List From: Eric Grumdahl Subject: Re: lesbian literature In-Reply-To: <9205281457.AA27033@mail1.cis.umn.edu> > In the course evaluation, several students suggested adding a work that > deals with lesbian experience.... So....what else is out there? > I'd love some suggestions of books that you think might work well in an > upper-level literature course (or lower level, for that matter). Though > the course deals mostly with fiction, there's nothing to stop me from > including drama or poetry, so I'd welcome suggestions in all genres. In addition to the other suggestions already posted, Tony McNaron's new memoir, I DWELL IN POSSIBILITY, might be very appropriate. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>Eric I. Grumdahl>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>GRUMDAHL@MAIL1.CIS.UMN.EDU>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 12:30:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: PHILDON@MOREKYPR.BITNET Subject: Re: naming the enemy I am responding to Jo Ellen's post regarding bringing young females into critique of patriarchy. A few weeks or months ago someone commented (I am pretty sure it was on this list) that one way to approach this problem is by having the students read critiques written by women years ago and gradually bringing them up to the present. Meanwhile, asking them what the authors are saying - is it similar? are things different now? why would women writing today be saying much the same things as women writing 100 years ago. This method rang a bell with me - I too have struggled with students who call me and all the other critical students man- haters and lesbians. No amount of expaining seemed to help. I plan to implement this process in the Fall. Donna Phillips phildon@morekypr ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 12:35:12 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: PHILDON@MOREKYPR.BITNET Subject: Re: lesbian literature Joan A book that is not so deep but some of the subscribers may want to consider for a course is *What Comes Naturally* by Gerd Brantenberg (Women's Press Limited, London) imported by Harper collins. Some of you may remember her sattire *Egalia's Daughters*. I had broused the Books in Print to see what else she has had translated into English. *What Comes Naturally* was (1.5 yrs ago) the only other one. It challenges our assumptions about what is natural and normal in a nontreatening way. Donna Phillips phildon@morekypr ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 12:39:52 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: PHILDON@MOREKYPR.BITNET Subject: Re: lesbian literature Forgot to say that *What Comes Naturally* is only 112 pages long. Donna Phillips ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 14:16:09 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: jpotuche@CC.GETTYSBURG.EDU Subject: Re: lesbian literature Bonnie Zimmerman's *The Safe Sea of Women* (Boston: Beacon Press, 1990) is a review of lesbian fiction published between 1969 and 1989. --------------- Jean L. Potuchek Women's Studies Bitnet: jpotuche@gburg Gettysburg College Internet:jpotuche@cc.gettysburg.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 14:54:53 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Rosemary Feal Subject: Re: lesbian literature Sylvia Molloy's Certificate of Absence (trans. from Spanish) is a fine, complex novel (U Texas Press) that might work in a course such as the one Joan describes. Rosemary Geisdorfer Feal rsfl@uhura.cc.rochester.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 27 May 1992 15:03:01 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Ginny Daley Subject: lesbian literature joan - i think its great that you are responding to your student's request for lesbian literature. i have often heard (from students) of the many ways teachers try to make excuses for NOT including lesbian perspectives in their courses. as you can tell from the many responses already posted to the list, your job of deciding what to include in your syllabus might be difficult. to make it even harder, i am sending you (via snail mail) a copy of A SHORT READING LIST FOR LESBIANS (produced by the gay and lesbian task force of the american library association) and a copy of the brochure LAVENDER KNOWLEDGE (produced by our local library). both of these have literature sections which should give you a good jump start. if anyone else would like a copy of these lists, please e-mail me privately, INCLUDING YOUR MAILING ADDRESS and i will send them to you. ginny daley women's studies archivist/bibliographer duke university vld@mail.lib.duke.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 15:43:04 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Vicki Kirsch Subject: Lesbian literature Still a few more suggestions: Djuna Barnes, NIGHTWOOD Renee Vivien, A WOMAN APPEARED TO ME WOMAN OF THE WOLF AND OTHER STORIES Poetry by Adrienne Rich, Judy Grahn, Susan Griffin, Paula Gunn Allen Michelle Cliff, and on and on... Elizabeth Jolly, PALOMINO Kate Millet, SITA Monique Wittig, LES GUERILLERES LESBIAN BODY Colette, THE PURE AND THE IMPURE Vicki Kirsch vlkirs@wmvm1 College of William and Mary ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 16:22:05 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Anne Carson Subject: Re: lesbian literature In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 28 May 1992 12:35:12 EDT from Another piece of lesbian literature that is fun to read is "Moll Cutpurse," a not very historical novel about a 17th century lesbian highwaywoman. It is by Ellen Galford, and is published by Firebrand Books, Ithaca, NY. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 16:42:45 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Anne Carson Subject: Re: addiction in literature In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 27 May 1992 13:11:27 EST from Two women who certainly wrote "under the influence" are Jean Rhys and Dorothy Parker, and possibly Lillian Hellman, who at any rate was into "serious drink- ing". There is also a French writer named Albertine Sarrazin, from the fifties or sixties, who I believe was a drug addict, but at any rate began writing in prison. Anne Carson Cornell University ac3x@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu (internet) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 19:39:28 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: sorsha@WAM.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: lesbian literature In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 28 May 92 11:27:42 -0500. <9205281533.AA27802@umd5.umd.edu> You might want to look at _From Housewife to Heretic_, by Sonia Johnson. It's an autobiographical account of Johnson's transition from "good Mormon housewife" to an outspoken critic of the Mormon church and a lesbian. Don't know the publisher offhand, though. Laurie sorsha@wam.umd.edu -- ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* .Send burnt offerings to....."I don't FEEL tardy." - DLR.........IT'S GROOVE.. ...sorsha@wam.umd.edu..............................................O'CLOCK!... ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 19:45:30 -0400 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: sorsha@WAM.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: lesbian literature In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 27 May 92 15:03:01 -0500. <9205281912.AA03339@umd5.umd.edu> Hi, Ginny...I would love to have a copy of those lists that you mentioned. My address is: Laurie Brunner 9890 Century Drive Ellicott City, MD 21042 Thanks a lot! :) Laurie sorsha@wam.umd.edu -- ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* .Send burnt offerings to....."I don't FEEL tardy." - DLR.........IT'S GROOVE.. ...sorsha@wam.umd.edu..............................................O'CLOCK!... ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 21:00:37 ADT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List Comments: <28MAY92.22702596.0034.MUSIC@UNB.CA> From: MBCP000 Subject: Lesbian literature I would like to add to the suggestions provided in terms of lesbian novels. The title is "Between Friends". I do not remember the author off hand but could get it if need be (let me know). It contains discussions on various aspects of different women's sexuality. It is the story of various women who are interconnected. We learn of their connections via the letters they write to one another. Some of the characters are Lesbians, one is a radical heterosexual feminist (who, if I remember correctly, has a wonderful analysis as to why she and her partner exclude intercourse from their shared sexuality), another one of the woman is resisting a feminist analysis of her life, etc. This discussion has convince me that I should include it in my reading list in Sept.! Carmen Poulin e-mail: carmen@unb.ca or mbcp@unb.ca ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 22:22:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: OLIN@ZODIAC.BITNET Subject: Re: lesbian literature Joan- Have you read Zami, Audre Lorde's "biography"? It might be something to add to your reading list. Ferris Olin@Zodiac ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 09:36:19 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Libbie Chute Subject: Re: addiction in literature In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 28 May 1992 16:42:45 EDT from This is not women with addictions in literature, but in teaching Alcohol and Drug Abuse, I've found that there's very little information out about women and addiction in general. There's Women on Heroin, but most addiction literatu re is still stuck in women becoming addicts due to the stress of taking on male jobs (this is an exaggeration, but you'd be amazed at what appears in standard texts). In any case, I just read a review in Symbolic Interaction (Vol. 15, # 2, summer 1992) of The Other Half: Wives of Alcoholics and Their Social Psych- ological Situation by Jacqueline P. Wiseman. The reviewer liked it. Has anyon e seen it or know of any GOOD literature on women and substance abuse? I swear that's my next project after I finish my dissertation! Libbie Chute Sociology, SUNYSB LIBBIECH@ccvm.sunysb.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 10:02:14 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Ginny Daley Subject: RE: lesbian literature lists the response to my offer of A SHORT READING LIST FOR LESBIANS and LAVENDER KNOWLEDGE has been terrific! this kind of interest makes my librarian heart flutter.... i just wanted to let you all know that i will send out as many of these that i can before i go out of town for a week. if i don't get yours sent out today OR if i don't receive your request before i leave, DON'T DESPAIR. i will leave my mail on and will send the rest out the week of june 8th. ginny daley information goddess vld@mail.lib.duke.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 10:25:59 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Elizabeth.Mulherrin@DARTMOUTH.EDU Subject: RE: lesbian literature lists --- : ginny daley information goddess --- end of quoted material --- I think I just changed my job title!!! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 10:38:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: JDMANDLE@COLGATEU.BITNET Subject: A Short Reading List for Lesbians Ginny plase send me your list (I couldn't get thru to you on your private e-mail) Joan Mandle Director/Women's Studies Colgate University Hamilton NY 13346 Thanks jdmandle@colgateu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 10:28:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: YABATCHAVA@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Subject: Re: Lesbian literature How about "Oranges are not the only fruit" by Joanne Winterson. It's complex and excellent! Yael Bat-Chava ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 07:55:00 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Leah Robin Subject: Re: lesbian literature Dear Ginny, Please e-mail me a copy of your lists. Thanx. Leah Robin IZZYLV2@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 11:34:30 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Debra Berard Subject: To Add to Your Reading List Greetings! I think the following book would be useful for a lot of you teaching women's studies courses. I don't think it is very well known, though it OUGHT to be! It's called "This Bridge Called My Back: Writings by Radical Women of Color" (Eds. Cherre Moraga, Gloria Anzalda; forward by Toni Cade Bambara). It is a very rich book containing prose, poetry, personal narrative, and analysis by Afro-American, Asian American, Latina, and Native American women. The women in it speak of the roots of their radicalism, racism in the women's movement, culture, class and homophobia, and of being a "Third World" woman writer (under the section "Speaking in Tongues"). Do any of you know it? (KITCHEN TABLE: Women of Color Press; New York, NY) Debra Berard ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 10:54:06 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "A.J. Wright" Subject: Re: addiction in literature In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 28 May 1992 16:42:45 EDT from A heroin addict who wrote some powerful fiction was Anna Kavan (a pseudonym), a British author of the fifties and early sixties. A collection of her short stories is entitled _Julia and the Bazooka_. If I remember correctly, she also wrote at least one novel. I also think she did her writing, or some of it any- way, "under the influence." A.J. Wright University of Alabama at Birmingham meds002@uabdpo ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 12:23:09 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Polly Thistlethwaite Subject: More Lesbian Fiction A few more lesbian fiction titles to consider for a survey course: Dorothy Allison's Trash Sarah Schulman's After Dolores Jeanette Winterson's Oranges Are Not The Only Fruit Carol Anshaw's Aquamarine You might also take a look at Joan Nestle and Naomi Holoch's anthology of lesbian short fiction - Women on Women (Plume, 1990). It might be interesting to assign a piece of newer lesbian fiction in conjunction with an older classic like Radclyffe Hall's The Well of Lonliness or even Patience and Sarah to fuel discussion about changes in lesbian representation. Polly Thistlethwaite Hunter College Library pjthc@cunyvm.cuny.edu pjthc@cunyvm ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 10:50:22 -0600 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: DULA ANNETTE Subject: apartment rental I am posting this for Carla Rensenbrink. She wants to sublet her apartment i n a big old house in Cambridge MA for the months of June, July, and August. The apartment is two-bedrooms, completely furnished, air-conditioned and a 12- minute walk from Harvard Square. She is asking $750.00 a month. The telephone number of Carla Rensenbrink is (617) 868-7528. Annette Dula dula@tramp.colorado.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 09:56:00 PST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: SMITHD@CLARGRAD.BITNET Subject: bridge I agree with Debra's posting--This Bridge Called my Back is excellent. I would also support using Adrienne Rich's poetry. D.Smith ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 18:30:00 GMT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: KLLLNGTN@VAX1.TCD.IE Subject: Re: addiction in literature A very empathetic portrait of a woman dependent on alcohol is drawn in Brian Moore's __The Lonely Passion of Judith Hearne__. A good film was made of the book but they changed the ending to be upbeat. The novel beautifully details the way in which women of a certain class/culture/time in Ireland became completely peripheral and isolated. --Karlin Lillington Trininty College, Dublin oops-- that's Trinity College! klllngtn@vax1.tcd.ie ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 12:50:11 -0600 Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Ronnie Storey-Ewaldt Subject: RE: lesbian literature lists In-Reply-To: <199205291520.AA21929@csn.org>; from "Ginny Daley" at May 28, 92 10:02 am yes, i'd love your bib lists! and i'll happily reimburse postage if you're sending in mail. thanks. ronnie storey/1112 palmer park/colorado spring, co/80903 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 12:48:33 PDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Betty J Glass Subject: Re: addiction in literature In-Reply-To: "A.J. Wright" "Re: addiction in literature" (May 29, 10:54am) Getting away from literature a little bit, another idea might be to explore women of rock and roll and their lyrics. Depressing as the current content of MTV may be, it does reflect a kind of poetry for young people. If you look at the '60-'70s music, it should be easy enough to find women under the influence in the music industry. Betty glass@equinox.unr.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 16:37:00 EST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Susan A Holton Subject: Re: lesbian literature Ginny, I would like a copy also. Please send or e-mail to Susan A Holton, Bridgewater State College, Bridgewater, MA 02325; sholton@rcnvms.rcn.mass.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 17:31:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: private postings If you are requesting information from one person (e.g., from Ginny Daley), please send mail PRIVATELY to that person. There is no need to clutter over a thousand people's e-mail files with a request that only one of them is in a position to answer. Many subscribers have limited time and/or e-mail space; some even have to pay for each message they receive. Please be considerate. If you don't know how to send messages to an Internet address, ask the computer support people at your institution for help. Thanks for your cooperation. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 15:49:00 MDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "AVRIL TORRENCE, ENGLISH DEPT. LOC. 5945" Subject: male students in women's studies Hello there: it's been several days since a request for info. about teaching male students in women's studies was posted (I've forgotten who posted the original request). Today I came across the following: Alex McDavid's "Feminism for Men 101: Educating Men in Women's Studies." -Femimist Teacher- 3 (1988) 25-33. I haven't read it since our college nor the University of Calgary subscribes to this journal. I've seen many interesting references to it, however, and wondered if any individuals or libraries do subscribe to -Feminist Teacher-? What is its scope-elementary, secondary, post secondary? If any can give me or others on the list some insights here, all of us interested in pedagogy would be most appreciative I'm sure. As an aside, I just bought Henry Giroux (ed) collection of essays--Postmodernism, Feminism and Cultural Politics (SUNY Press, 1991). It seems like an excellent collection for keeping a political pedagogy within the feminist postmodern. If any of you have read some of the articles, I'd love to hear what you think. Avril Torrence atorrence@janus.mtroyal.ab.ca ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 19:57:30 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: IP05946@PORTLAND.BITNET Subject: Re: Reading list In-Reply-To: A Short Reading List for Lesbians Ginny: Please send a copy of the list for our Women's Center resource book. Please send to: Miriam K. Morgan-Alexander 645 Congress St. Portland, ME 04101 For the Women's Center, Miriam ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 23:24:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: NWSA Conference Here's some detailed information about the upcoming National Women's Studies Conference that will be held June 19-23 in Austin, Texas. For more information, contact Goldie Thomas, whose phone number appears at the end of the first part of the announcement, or the NWSA office: NWSA, Univ. of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742-1325 (301) 405-5573. Joan Korenman (korenman@umbc) ************************************************************** NWSA 1992 ANNUAL CONFERENCE Enlarging the Circle: The Power of Feminist Education June 19-23, in Austin, Texas Issues to be addressed: Action to achieve inclusion and empowerment goals in academia and the community The direction of feminist education and educators for the balance of the 90s Restructuring the National Women's Studies Association to encourage and enable maximum participation, service and effect Scheduled speakers include: Angela Bowen, Lisel Burns, Gail Christopher, Rona Feit, Phyllis Kietha Gagnier, Rosemary Jackson, Annette Kolodny, Jan Peterson, and Sarah Weddington With over 100 panels and workshops including: Multiculturalism in the Feminist Critique - Linking Teaching, Research and Activism - Empowerment in the Nursing Home - Lesbians Considering Parenting - The Ethics of Lesbian-Feminist Spirituality Feminism and the Neurosciences - Mothers and Daughters in Writings by Women of Color - Internationalizing the Circle - Connective Imagination and Global Vision - Resolving Group Conflict in Women's Organizations - Feminism and Bureaucracy - Feminism and Black Feminist Women - Women and Environmental Action There will also be a Women's Film Festival, a Book and Media Exhibition, Photo Exhibits of African and Mexican-American Women, Dramatic Performances, Entertainment, Chicana Poets, Southwest Women Writers, Fundraising Banquet, and a Celebration of NWSA'S 15th Anniversary, For more information call NWSA Conference Headquarters at 908-846-8812 Goldie Thomas, Coordinator ********************************************** PARTIAL LISTING OF PANELS AND WORKSHOPS Multiculturalism in the Feminist Critique Teaching about Domestic Violence Confronting Gender and Race Inequities: In a Research Writing Course Multicultural Feminist Literary Theory Feminism and Cultural Diversity in the Teaching of Marketing, Statistics and Economics Erasing the White Picket Fence The NJ Project and the Inclusive Curriculum Women's Studies and Community Agencies Linking Teaching, Research and Activism A Feminist Perspective of Justice Concerns and Issues of Women in Prison Friends Inside, Friends Outside: Studies of Incarcerated Women Women's Studies Outreach Mental Health Issues of Concern to Women Self-Help for Sex Consciousness Raising and Ageism Recovery Programs, Disability and Feminism Empowerment in the Nursing Home Popular Culture and Preadolescent and Adolescent Girls Lesbians Considering Parenting Lesbian Health, Self-Help and Sexual Safety The Ethics of a Lesbian-Feminist Spirituality Long-Term Lesbian Couples Lesbian Teachers Feminist Pedagogy in Its Political Context Role of Women's Studies in Transforming Science and Technology Feminist Education to Reach the Sciences Feminism and the Neurosciences Gender, Race, Class and Literary Theory Claire Myers Spotswood Women Transcending Violence Working Girls In the Fiction of Alcott, Jackson and Phelps Women and Work in the Fiction of Dorothy Canfield Fisher Phyllis Bottome Mothers and Daughters in Writings by Women of Color Marge Piercy Charlotte Perkins Gilman Transforming the Handbook of Texas Fannie Hurst Grace Hutchins The Perils of Postfeminism Thelma & Louise Empowering Feminist Pedagogy with Microcomputer Technology Social Construction of Campus Speech and Behavior Transvestism in Films and Fantasies Speaking Women's Lives: A Performance Session Women in Adult Education Feminist Research With Poor Women Working Class Women and Feminism in Women's Studies Women's Struggle Liberates Ireland Women in Germany: East and West Internationalizing the Circle Feminist Scholarship on Women from South Asia Connective Imagination and Global Vision Applying World Systems Theory to Feminist Education Women Resist Ecological Destruction Feminists in Search of A New Model A Contemporary Approach to Feminist Autonomy Women's Ways of Knowing Bloom's Taxonomy Shifting Within Fields of Power Feminist Theory in Transition A Feminist Critique of Postmodernism Resolving Group Conflict in Women's Organizations Schools as Family Systems White Male Student Hostility in the Feminist Classroom Restructuring the Classroom: Content and Pedagogy An Interdisciplinary Approach to Empowerment Alternatives to Academia Students Teaching Students Feminism and Bureaucracy Feminism and Black Feminist Women Women and Environmental Action "Lashback": Feminist Students Organize vs. the Backlash on Campus ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 23:29:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: Joan Korenman Subject: Two more conference announcements I have received the following two announcements: 1) CFP: "Women as Creator: Heroines, Models, Mentors, Leaders" 2) Conference: "Gender Issues in Higher Education" (U. of Vt.) For more information, contact the people named in the announcements, not WMST-L or me. Joan Korenman Internet: korenman@umbc2.umbc.edu Bitnet: korenman@umbc ************************************************************************ 1) A CALL FOR PAPERS, SECOND ANNUAL CONFERENCE, WOMEN AS CREATOR "Heroines, Models, Mentors, Leaders" Marywood College, Scranton, Pennsylvania February 12-13, 1993 "Women as Creator: Heroines, Models, Mentors, Leaders" will focus on the creativity of female leaders. Women's contribution to administration, athletics, psychology, religion, the sciences, the media, the arts, history, philosophy, politics and education will be analyzed. Possible topics may include: Feminine Leadership, The Unsung Hero, Business: It's Not Only A Man's World, Women Leading Women/Women Leading Men, Women As Role Models, The Political Empowering of Women, Women Inventors, Women Leaders in Athletics, Women in the Media, Women in the Sciences. Those interested in participating should submit either a two page abstract or the final paper. Deadline for consideration: September 14, 1992. U. Theresa Zmurkewycz Chair, Women's Conference Committee Marywood College 2300 Adams Avenue Scranton, PA 18509 For further information call: (717)348-6237 or (717)348-6211 ext. 584. ****************************************************************************** 2) RECONCILING GENDER ISSUES IN HIGHER EDUCATION: A CONFERENCE FOR MEN AND WOMEN Sponsored by University of Vermont and National Association for Women in Higher Education October 5 & 6, 1992 - Radisson Hotel, Burlington, Vermont Gender Issues: how do they affect your organization? * Leadership Styles * Understanding and Using Power * Learning Styles * Sexual Harassment * Gender and Diversity Keynote Speaker: Donna Shavlick, Director, Office of Women in Higher Education, American Council on Education. Call 800-639-3188 for more information The University of Vermont Division of Continuing Education 322 South Prospect Street Burlington, Vermont 05401-3505 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 30 May 1992 15:05:12 MST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: nancy felipe russo Subject: Re: lesbian literature In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 29 May 1992 07:55:00 PDT from Ginny, me too!! Nancy Felipe Russo, Ph.D. Director, Women's Studies ASU, Tempe, AZ 85287-1801 (602)965-2358 FAX:(602)965-2357 BITNET: ATNFR@ASUACAD ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 31 May 1992 01:31:00 CDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: S_TURELL@TWU.BITNET Subject: lesbian literature A very good recent work of lesbian fiction is *OUT OF TIME* by Paula Martinac. It won a lambda award the year it was published. I enjoyed it alot, as have friends I have recommended it to. It's approx. 220 pgs. from Seal Press. Susan Turell s_turell@twu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 31 May 1992 18:30:10 IST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: jessica Subject: abstract for this network dear joan, could you explain me if there is any way to receive only a list of s ubjects for the content of the letters in this network I can\t deal with all th e information and my mail is exploiting... if there is no possibility, please, stop temporarily my subscription thank you jessica nevo haifa university women\ s studies rsso795 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 31 May 1992 13:46:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: "Laura.Julier" <21798JUL@MSU.BITNET> Subject: Query Does anyone know where I can find a copy of Lois Gould's "The Fabulous Child's Story"? Laura Julier, Dept of Am. Thought and Language Michigan State U 21798JUL@msu.bitnet 21798jul@ibm.cl.msu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 31 May 1992 22:46:00 EET Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: MMCFADDEN@FINABO.ABO.FI Subject: Re: Query Laura, The story was in MS. magazine a long time ago, probably in the mid 70's, called there, "The Story of X" I think. Good luck. MMCFADDEN@FINABO.BITNET (Maggie McFadden, Abo Akademi, Institute of Women's Studies, Abo, Finland) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 31 May 1992 19:12:00 EDT Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: jill carraway Subject: fabulous child I believe the story is X:A FABULOUS CHILD'S STORY by Lois Gould New York: Daughters Publishing Co.,1978 52 p. Feminist story of androgenous child named x. Jill Carraway jill@lib.wfunet.wfu.wdu Wake Forest University Winston-Salem, NC ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 31 May 1992 18:58:00 PST Reply-To: Women's Studies List Sender: Women's Studies List From: MAREK_J1@PLU.BITNET Subject: WOMEN'S STUDIES & CURRICULUM REFORM I'm doing research on the current status of women's studies programs given the recent activities in reforming higher-education curricula. As part of my study, I would like to hear from people who have observed (attempts at) curricular reform. What, if anything, happened to WS programs? Were any WS faculty consulted at any point about proposed curricular reforms? Have there been attempts by departments or divisions to "integrate" WS or multi- cultural materials into their core courses? I have discovered some things of interest and plan to make a preliminary report at the NWSA conference in Austin; our session is called "New Kids on the Block" and is scheduled for Sunday, June 21, from 11-12:30. Still, from what I've found so far, this is a very complex and interesting question, and I'd like to write up my findings later this year. If you, or someone you know, can help with firsthand data, I'd certainly appreciate hearing from you. Thank you. -- Jayne Marek, Dept. of English, Pacific Lutheran University, Tacoma, WA 98447. Voice mail: (206) 535-7756. E-mail address: marek_j1@plu.bitnet