- Series
- Revolution: 20th century phenomenon
- Air Date
- 1969-03-20
- Duration
- 00:29:32
- Episode Description
- Series Description
- Subject(s)
- Creator(s)
- Contributors
- Genre(s)
- Geographic Region(s)
- regions
- Time Period
- 1961-1970
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Some of you will recall I'm sure that former Secretary of Defense McNamara made a speech in
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Montreal a little over two years ago.
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In which he talked to this point among other things and he came up with a total
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during the period from 1959 to nineteen
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sixty six to nine hundred fifty eight to nine hundred sixty six and
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eight year period.
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He came up with a total of what he called one hundred and sixty four.
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Occasions of violence in the world that had international implications. In other words
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he didn't include those that didn't have any international consequences but he came up with a total of some one
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hundred sixty four. Occurrences of violence in the world.
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And we did have these international implications.
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That was Colonel Donald Bussey senior specialist in national defense at the Library of
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Congress speaking at the twenty sixth annual Institute on world affairs
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conducted as a special feature of the instructional program at San Diego State College the institute is
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dedicated to the use of the free academic forum for the presentation and discussion of current and
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continuing issues of international significance. The main theme of this year's
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Institute is expressed in one word revolution
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and how to introduce our speaker at the session. Here is Professor meet us generalise director of the
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Institute on world affairs.
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The discussion will center on the subject of. Geopolitics
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revisited. I'm sure that
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all of you know what your politics is if not the term is almost self-explanatory.
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It has strong strategic implications. And it was
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devised as a method of interpretating. The power
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potential in a sense of countries. On the
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basis. Of geography.
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As well as politics. Although it is a
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specialized area it is nevertheless an area of broad connotation.
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And a serious import for a country's security.
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And we're fortunate to have an expert in that area and Colonel Don Busey.
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Who is. An old hand at the subject matter
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plus an old hand at the institute we have been privileged to enjoy his excellent
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presentations here for. A number of years.
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Presently he holds a position of senior specialists in national defense in the latest
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legislative reference service of the Library of Congress.
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He was schooled in a number of institutions. And your
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colleges the University of Chicago.
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Infantry School the Commanding General Staff College Strategic continued intelligence school.
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Georgetown University I'm a rock college and surfer.
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His career is accordingly. Centered on the area of.
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The room of the army. And security system of the United States.
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Between 1959 and 1967 he was in the faculty of the U.S. Army War
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College at Carlisle Barracks in Pennsylvania.
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He has served also as a staff member of the Draper Committee in Washington.
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He's been involved in policy planning and all types of activities related to.
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We're fortunate in having you with us. We also recognize him amongst other
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things as a fellow of this institute. And in
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exceedingly happy to be able to present him to you today to discuss this topic
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geopolitics of the revisit.
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With him.
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Thank you very much Professor generalities as always it's a great pleasure to come to San Diego
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and I must say this is one of the nicest days I've ever had the pleasure of enjoying here.
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Some years ago as I recall it was in the late 20s or early 30s.
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There appeared in The New Yorker magazine a map which was
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called. The New Yorker's map of the United States.
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Now as you might guess. This map was distorted.
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The state of New York and of all the city of New York.
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Was the central focus of the map. I had assumed a rather substantial
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portion of the entire surface area of the page upon which it was printed.
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Florida. Was. Also rather large on this map.
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There was a very short distance and very small state in between New York City
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and the state of Florida. And again as you might expect the city of Miami was rather an
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outsize Also California.
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Occupied a good half of the western portion of this map
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which was intended to portray the United States and the states in between
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were very slowly. Presented as slivers of
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one shape or another. And on the portion devoted to California.
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Again as you might expect Hollywood. Was about half of the state of California.
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Now I say this. New Yorkers map of the United
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States. To suggest that the
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world in which we live. Is very much. Influenced
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by our particular perspectives. The image we have of the
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world is heavily influenced by a wide range of. Factors not the
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least of which is where we happen to be located and how that world
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presents itself to us in that particular perspective.
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I think all of us for example really tend to think of a world as being flat
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even though we know that it's round because we've been brought up by. Typically
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Mercator projections of the world. And a Mercator projection clearly is an
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attempt to portray on a flat surface terrible.
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SURFACE.
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Many times in the Mercator projections that we deal with the Western Hemisphere is on the
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western portion of the page and the Eastern hemisphere or the whole
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world is on the eastern side of the page.
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Sometimes in order to avoid this distortion.
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You may have the Western Hemisphere in the center and then a portion of
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Eurasia to your left. If you look at the map and of course Europe to your
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right. If you look at the map and I rather suspect that most of us when we think of the
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world in which we live. Have that image of a Mercator projection
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of the United States substantially in the center.
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And looking out to the right to Europe and to the left to Asia. My
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point basically is that I think we think about the world as it has been portrayed to
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us by cartographers.
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We would be well advised I might say that when we think about the world or wish to study
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the relevance of location and space to international
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affairs we would be well advised to use a globe rather than a Mercator
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projection. Some years ago I used to enjoy the experience of carrying in
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my pocket. One of these inflatable Globes that some of you may have seen
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whenever I wish to discuss a strategic question I wouldn't do it with a flat
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map on a wall I'd always take my inflatable globe out of the pocket and blow
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it up and then we could discuss a little bit more intelligently what the problem is that we that
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we were considering.
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Now that's point number one point number two is that. In addition to the world
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being a product of our own perspectives our own images our own
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environment. The world also changes with technology.
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I'm sure that some of you have seen in in recent weeks an
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advertisement that has appeared rather widely in the newspapers and also in the periodicals
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and advertisement for Trans World Airlines as it happens. And. It
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shows the Atlantic Ocean. And it calls it the Atlantic river.
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It shows Europe.
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Nestled just off the eastern coast of the United States. And in a very real
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sense this is now the truth the Atlantic Ocean isn't really an ocean
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anymore. It is a river. There is no difficulty at all
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as many of you I'm sure are aware. When. Taking off in the morning from
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I don't weild in New York and finding yourself in London or Paris for
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dinner. Even more confusing when you come the other way because you may find
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yourself with two dinners on that occasion. It
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is in fact an. Literally a river distances
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is virtually meaningless from a strategic point of view. But when we
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have the means for rapid transport such as the jet age has brought us.
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I have often thought that like the New Yorker's map of America it would be very
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interesting if some cartographer some day would come up with the jet
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age map of the world. Again he would inescapably
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take a certain perspective to begin with. He presumably would have the United States in the in the
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center of such a map and he would try to portray what the real
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distances are in terms of time and in terms of effort.
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To move to Japan let us say or to Europe or to South America or or Southeast Asia or
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where had to go.
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I think you might find that in that sort of situation depending upon how you spelled out the scenario
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that the United States rather than being ten thousand miles from Saigon let's
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say is really just offshore.
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In terms of strategic distance. We can move
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material we can move people in copious quantities and in great numbers
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from this country to any place in the world. Particularly if it is
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a if maritime transport can be employed where large heavy
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volumes are concerned where people are concerned of course with the jet aircraft. We can move
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large numbers in in a great a great hurry with great speed.
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I might say at this time that the the real problem in transport in the
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modern world. Is not the problem of getting from here to there.
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It's the problem of getting around there once you get there. All you
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are familiar with the experience of taking two hours to get to the Los Angeles airport and
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getting on a jet aircraft and finding your you're at your destination 25
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minutes. And then spending two more hours getting from the airport to your hotel in town.
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There's a fancy word for this in the transportation economy economics it's called and losses.
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Well. The end losses are very severe. And from a strategic point of view there is
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no gainsaying the fact that. It's very easy to go from here let's say to Europe.
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But it may be very difficult and very tedious and very slow to move around in Europe.
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Once you arrive. Now against these. Basic introductory
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comments I want to try to do about four things in these remarks this morning.
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First I want to talk a little bit about conflict in the 20th century. The theme of your.
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Institute this year is you know is revolution in the 20th century.
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And as our German has indicated we're going to be talking a little this morning about some of the international.
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Aspects of the revolution. I want to talk
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first then a little bit about conflict in this century and revolution is a part of the
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conflict spectrum. Second I'd like to talk a little bit
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more in a little bit more detail about geography.
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And geopolitics.
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And I'd like to talk a little bit about the policy implications of all
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this for the United States. And then as time permits some closing
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remarks. But the present and future seem to hold.
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Now first with respect to the conflict in the 20th century.
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How one defines conflict is pretty much an arbitrary matter.
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There have been studies for example one one analyst took the New York Times. And
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studied the New York Times very carefully for the period from one thousand forty six to nine thousand
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fifty nine which is that some 13 year period. And just based upon
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stories in The New York Times reporting international events he came up
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with a total of some twelve hundred what he called internal
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wars of one kind or another as if he defined a rather large
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number. Another analyst using a somewhat different definition no different
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criteria for.
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Our conflict. Has indicated a total of some 200
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something over two hundred fifty conflicts
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since the end of World War 2 in 1946 during
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the 1966 I was in a 20 year period something over two hundred and
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fifty conflicts as he defined them. A somewhat lesser number obviously
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the the other analyst I referred to basing his.
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Analysis on the New York Times had a much broader definition of conflict and therefore
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he came up with a much larger number.
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Now there are two studies of conflict that I think are. Of
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particular interest to us. Some of you will recall I'm sure that former Secretary of Defense
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McNamara made a speech in Montreal a little over two years ago.
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In which he talked to this point among other things and he came up with a total
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during the period from 1959 to nine hundred
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sixty six thousand nine hundred fifty eight to nine hundred sixty six and
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eight year period.
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He came up with a total of what he called one hundred and sixty four.
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Occasions of violence in the world that had international implications. In other words
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he didn't include those that didn't have any international consequences but he came up with a total of some one
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hundred sixty four. Occurrences of violence in the world.
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And which did have these international implications.
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As I recall he indicated some 82 different governments were involved in this total of one
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hundred sixty four acts of violence. Involved that is either directly or
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indirectly. Fifteen of these were
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military conflicts. So you can see a very large proportion of them were were
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not overtly military conflicts they were other kinds of conflicts in
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the world stage. Now all of these
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164 obviously a very large proportion were what we
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would roughly call internal war or domestic war or
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internal acts of violence or one kind of one kind or another.
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But Mr. McNamara did not include these of course unless they did have in one way or another international
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implications. Now that was an eight year period.
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Now the most recent study in some ways I think probably the most useful study of this is one that just came
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out last week actually it was written by a man. Named David Wood. For the
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Institute for Strategic Studies which is located in London.
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Here's a little pamphlet is called conflict in the 20th century.
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He comes up with a total. Of one hundred twenty eight
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wars. Or. Occasions of conflict
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during the period from the Spanish-American War 1898 down to the
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present with the Nigerian war as you know now in progress one hundred twenty
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eight such wars.
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Now you analyze these very carefully it comes up with rather interesting statistical
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correlations and so forth for our purposes I'd simply point out a couple of features of this
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analysis. For one thing if your take is your center point in
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that band of time from the Spanish-American war down to the present.
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If you take your center point roughly nine hundred thirty nine just prior to World War Two you
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find that in the what is it some 40 year
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period. Forty one year period.
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Prior to 39. There were 44.
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Out of this one hundred twenty eight wars sense thirty nine down
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to the present. Roughly what thirty years twenty nine years. There are have
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been 84. Now.
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This comparison can't be taken too literally because there may be some reporting problems with respect
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to wars or conflicts that might have occurred in the earlier period. We may
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now be including as conflicts acts of violence which in the previous
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historical period would not have been so classified. So there are problems
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and destroyed and be taken too literally. But I think the more interesting thing about this analysis is that out of the
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44 conflicts in the period from the Spanish-American war down to
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1939 some twenty four of us more than
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half.
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Or approximately half were what you would call international wars that is
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wars involving the armed forces of one state against the armed forces of another
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state whereas the other half. Were what might be called
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internal wars or domestic wars or civil wars roughly a 50/50 breakup
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as between these two broad categories of conflict.
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In the period since 1939 however down today
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these 84 conflicts that he has listed
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about three fourths of these were what would be called internal wars and
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not international law and which armed forces of two sides were opposing each other
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on the field of battle so to speak.
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This is a very significant change obviously in the character of conflict in this
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century. Now this study by. David Wood
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is this finding is not a new finding this is then indicated
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in other analyses as well. But I think it is of interest and is of
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significance to get a feel for the changing character of conflict
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in the world. I suppose you could generalize it this way that prior to
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939 most wars were international.
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There was a lower incidence of such wars and also when you did have internal
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wars domestic wars guerrilla wars call them what you will. Internal riots civil
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disturbances and so forth. They did not tend to have the profound international implications
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that they have in the. Contemporary world in the more recent period
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from thirty nine down to the present. These wars in greater and increasing numbers have
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tended to be internal or domestic wars. There have been more of them and they have
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had much more profound international implications.
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Let me turn to the second topic I want to talk about and that is.
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The broad field of geopolitics and the relevance of
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geopolitics to this whole question of international conflict.
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Now obviously this is a big subject and I can do no more than just get a
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very few high spots. I suppose the name
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most closely associated with with the idea of geopolitics is
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that of Salford Mackinder the very famous British geographer
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near 1984 he wrote a book it was called the geographic pivot of history
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in that. Actually in 94 it was not a book it was an article but
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later in 1900 wrote a book on the same subject.
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Called democratic ideals and political reality in which he developed more fully his
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ideas on the effect of geography on the political
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affairs of states. And we we can
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develop in these few minutes the evolution of Halfords thinking on this
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subject but. We can sum it up I think in these in this way. In his
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1900 book which I would remind you was written at the time of the first treaty in fact
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in many ways this book of his was a treatise to serve as a warning. To the
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peacemakers adverse side to take into account certain geographic
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facts in Europe in writing the peace following World War
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1. And you'll recall I'm sure many of you that he came up in that book with a very
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famous jingle which went substantially as follows that He who
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rules East Europe.
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Controls the heart line and he who controls the heartland
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controls the world aisle. And he who rules the world
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Island controls the world.
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This jingle had a profound influence on a whole generation of students and scholars.
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But insert Helford mind the principal. Idea he was trying to get
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across was the essential ality of not permitting a situation to develop in
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the future in which Russia.
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And Russian power was combined with the power of Germany
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under the hegemony of a single state because in his view
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this would represent control of the heartland. And that any single power controlling that entire
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area.
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Would inescapably ultimately to control the
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entire Eurasian land mass along with Africa which he described as the world
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Island. And once this kind of domination of the world island had been secured.
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It would only be a matter of time. Until such a power could control the world.
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This was or how for its basic idea in 1919 and it grew out of his essential analysis
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from going out of 1004 article and on the geographic pivot of history now through
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the years he has particular definition of this heartland change. In
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1999 he had in mind very clearly for the peacemakers that. The
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essential body of creating what came to be known as the court on sanitaire between Russia
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in the east and Germany in the West. With a band of neutral states in between
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Poland Czechoslovakia Hungary and so forth
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the idea of a of a barrier. Of a zone between
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the potentially great power of Russia and they just
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demonstrated great power of Germany in World War One that it was essential not to permit these two
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little power centers to combine. So as to threaten the peace of the
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world. And so he conceived of the idea of this band of neutral states and of
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course the peace makers a verse I did in fact establish such a cordon sanitaire.
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In later years he offered further amended his essential ideas.
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He never departed from the basic framework 1043 for
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example in an earlier article in Foreign Affairs. He he talked also in
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addition to the hard line he talked about what he called the Atlantic the middle of the ocean
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in the middle of the ocean really was the Atlantic Ocean because he had he was witnessing
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U.S. and world war to the great combined power of the United
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States and Great Britain specifically in Europe.
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Tied by maritime transport across the middle of the ocean. And he visualized this as
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a new great center of power and that this middle of the ocean or we would call up today I
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suppose the Atlantic community that this Great Midland ocean area with all the power that it
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could generate could serve as a balance to the heartland power. So as I
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say he modified his view. But the essential idea was always the
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same. And that was that Eurasia must never come under the domination of any
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single state. Now why did Sir Howard believe that the
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heartland was the key and the heartland corresponds very roughly
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to the Soviet Union and to the states of Eastern Europe. If you add western
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Germany to that you literally have. The heartland as as Mackinder feared it might evolve
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and might develop. This is why we all instinctively recognise that Germany is the
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key to this whole picture.
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The reasons are hard for to.
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Visualize this kind of a power relationship in the world was because. In one thousand
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four he was heavily influenced partly as a result of the Boer War experience but also he was
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heavily influenced by the they're real and they do the developing network
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of ground transportation of land transportation which he visualized for the
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future of Eurasia. He expected that there would be a network of
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massive rail communications all the way across racial. Some
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180 degrees of the earth's surface from east to west.
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Now actually sir Halfords projection of this did not come to pass as you know
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the East Siberian the Trans-Siberian Railway as we know it.
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Was double tracked only much later in history and even a dial on a double track
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basis. It is a very meager and a very fragile land line of communication.
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There are lots of evidences of this one of the most dramatic I think is the fact that the Russian that
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historic Russia and of course in contemporary times the Soviet Union has always had to
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maintain separate army separate military forces in the Far
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East from those which were in European Russia.
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The armies in the Maritime Provinces of the Far East were always considered separate because
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the Russians historically and the Soviets could not anticipate being able to
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reinforce the east with forces from the West or vice versa. They were not in other words
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mutually supporting. Because of these very meager land lines of communication.
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So therefore this basic premise underlying story Helford concept of the of the
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heartland of the world Island did not in fact come to pass. And by
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1943 he had recognised this and therefore reoriented the concept. But
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it's the essential core remain. Nonetheless there. And that was that Eurasia
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must not come under the head Germany of a single power. Now there were those who
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challenged as to how often weekenders concept.
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Probably the most notable was that. Of Nicholas speak the great
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geographer do you a politician on the faculty of Yale University. We
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can't deal extensively with what. Mr. what Professor speakin had to say
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about the mic and the concept but essentially what he had in mind was does he recognise that
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McAndrews theory fell on this business of land transport.
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He pointed out that it was simply not in the cards that there would be this kind of massive
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land communication across Eurasia and that rather than the heartland
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represented the key to domination of Eurasia
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it was the rim lands as he called it of Eurasia that ultimately represented.
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Their seat of real power. These Rimland were mutually reinforcing
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with copious maritime transport. All you have to do is conjure up in your
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mind the kind of political map of the world which you saw.
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In the before World War 2 and you'll recall that the British Empire was
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always colored red on those maps. England then the British Empire
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and the the whole sweep of that British Empire. Represented
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control over a very large proportion. Of the rim lands of Eurasia
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particularly in South Asia and East Asia.
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