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but at this point we should be aware of possible with

the visual side work to the best ones those who see Fischer

for the transformation station you see you

will lose their sons just like you very much. Rumors

that he's acting like Sudanese

you know it's you who has all the signs for

years. Science is into view this is a look see. This system

do not say this in the right light

which is well are you citing all

sources in the long run there may be a small arms

whose guards are it's you who says it's a large place

this is a fall this fall. Cases such as

earlier this year. Yes he sued the current proposal which has

jurisdiction as you just wrote

this basic issues are higher. Her face

is the super suit

this is causing wear most of her old Station Park Service

this is her new written let's see if she's late.

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by this kind of action is always

the violence were not OK she said she had to do with home.

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who will hear my commission Slayer mission

was just to reserve the station listen to their

pain as against others. Not the case

where they will see you pieces the pieces may not

fall out on me or my clothes for a period beginning with the day

before the world was placed in their

educational spaces were not blue. Which

man I'm going to pose an educational problem. Oh you know

you know you could be your mother and the reason you

support my son worse. So while it is

not doing my own insists the

course of this case is always the stations must solve this

along with its present system this usually is used

by the whole trial. Becomes very. You may

suggest a location like this in the

New World submissions to be a while this is the station's

original card. Yes you see why I made a point that

they were going to lose this space. It was that he's much

more education you go there because it was built what

CC has jurisdiction or why you know he was a

go. Matters

is not the use of it you know

as they say our audiences might be a smart

boy. Each education list deserves some

not this one.

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yes you did you hear a rose

you leave your job really

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for you they know where they go.

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oh my love to her.

Here.

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well as you.

Think you know you you know you

see her

on there she's there alone.

Oh well you know most of those who

you know they will want to go home.

You know you want you know

I had her review that it was

so moving. You are with you as we all

know you know this because you

know you are right on this. Yeah

no real

anywhere on your forum

which is leading this was

here if you was or was one such as me.

Hank had his chance. Car Lot. I regard

as we read this page will read the variances.

Yours and mine got nothing to do with the last exam.

That is a brand new thing you can do right.

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recent speech represented a deal

that they had nothing against roid rage occasional television stations but

they wrote the television station children find

themselves soley the cultural program that they should

know like what programs in the classrooms of

the schools or how indeed he justified his

position to generalize. While it was impossible for

programs of any controversal nature whatsoever

and secondly that there was a great need for all child would only reason the

lose the power that is why there are we are

persons as to his view soley our cultural

program. Brazil is one of those we follow this

you know Lou. Boy he's a program.

He's right. We cannot subsist.

I might point out that this is not local or regional.

So are saying that this war will do the job

as they did with the mayor you know there are riots in

Mosul. It's out in Texas

and you know mostly I suggest to you

that this is remiss of oh it's OK to lose so right

there you are on the first day with your connection

with these ones. You know Rubio causes our.

Holding our own might with you and this is the

answer there on the ground. You knock her

out. The Second Mile even more for

your well-organized car

which is sending represent this disease. Google Superman just suggesting that the

schools are in the large cities and small but they

should be removed. There is no room for Roy. Yeah

they should install 4 to. 6 Jack.

Within their schools. Always let me read the stories.

And though this will be a song was written and

received and then these night raids at school.

Yeah yeah all variable costs

are out there so sick while on the.

Other. Have there. Been little sleep. This is the number

of state legislatures have no problem over here with

requests for these big names make sure the appropriate in most cases

to the State Department the State Department of Education will then you know right

over the schools as schools as you will then use that

for all this.

Pack and head songs that say you know the state you

know all about. We're looking at this and we think that

our whole defense against these. Is a

little mean no wall sir by this question. Make no

rules of school or college presidents and the

differential in dollars and cents than ourselves it was as if his

head and looking in the barriers he was going to vote for

them would be like going to

new members of your own.

No you're right. Oh we're looking for that whole.

Hanes vision so that we may do these thing all over the

United States and by the sword.

Cars are we can go to the city and say ah yes this is their all or this is

their typical cause this is their schedule this is what it was not what I

said you know and there is no right you know

and I mean there is a general as you know your oh my

you know problem Business Review is of the fault of the

service by the title generally read by

far.

Right places so I suggest going to do these things and maybe you know first

of all the U.S. any information this sort of activity in

your area to Charles would be given the right moment.

Second I would be very wary if you would

turn your school administrators be so close to this sort of approach is

made then they are. Yeah. We're

staying with station manager is going to know the joys of

serving life to you we are going you are going to

do first of all you know these

that you will live there you know you look at

present because you are you know was

this are easily you know

we're doing this with your community.

They are only where it was only when they

knew the reason they are your best

to go for the schools and residents who work in New York

and so I think that if you mean anything new or doing anything.

Thank you very much. Oh this is this is your

booth.

Will you review the letter here.

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Wires there.

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yeah.

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or. You you

know you you go you.

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Will.

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or a.

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what. You are

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me.

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You.

Would say

there.

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the. What. About.

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Lot about. Three miles. Would.

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Think you are going to be the no mercy you

were going to leave her the world.

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Her in this movie review

world. Who is we work with

here is he says he

will result in you know who you are

really you know.

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you want your warming theory

room maybe your own

territory. There. Were.

More known as you know

there

were do you live over here already but it

might work that is in there yeah.

Oh wait we're moving

yet you were rolled. You were here

last.

Year you.

Weave my hair as it were right.

More. Old days or say a leg.

Let me start by saying that we are attempting here to make cars.

You know how it works. Yeah we do a

lot. My purpose the.

Thing that stands for making mission rules

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I saw three point

six while here

program you need to know who

are you.

Really.

Do you know you will say it

was a vision you are you know you

follow.

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think when you hand your hand will you

really you know whose was

the third day you know. Then

who thought the whole lot.

They will rule the world

here.

Rosalie if you

do you get there

you get it. You was with.

The guy who was you know the

last.

Thing you was a little

further you and others will with you

as well.

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world where they were oh you

were there you were here.

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Or. Who's really right

for the workers here.

Oh oh we're here is being

there for them to see

our.

Current work out.

We here know very

well for a few years or you might know

where I'm going.

We all know there are things you have to

see.

There was.

Rioting here.

There was a little boy there.

Maybe he's on the tape as I and

many of you think Serling's

station is to find out what he

why do you see your shit. Well you're right

it was the you know you know you

do that.

Yes

I have her.

Are you already

commission that we have a very good

lawyer. Oh yeah you

hire her was too smart.

Yeah you are or where

her mind is

or where you were you had this rule.

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whole thing. Oh yeah. He told me you can't

hold her.

Lower. Yeah Mom.

Was broke and very

young.

Lauren Young made her heart

broken leg

very near her house to

her.

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his lol.

I was slightly lower.

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you there. Well I don't want to have

to worry. About. Dealing with you as a

result.

There.

May well be that someone you would like to

react like oh you

you know. Oh

you're right you were right.

Here we go back

to your film first and one of the

year's best so we're ready

to go. Yeah and we'll let you know you know you and

there will be a slow go.

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yeah.

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or somebody like that but I never think of the serious you get out of it.

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my remark. And her rule

here there is little or

no will be. All over. The world

who are more of the

world for her you will hear as you.

Are.

I think we simply didn't save the world that

we're going to hear you know

whether they're there or

you know right away you

know.

Let me add one more point. There's a tremendous breakthrough there's this

verse rule there are things where you know the

right get more slow here. Well

yeah. You're right. Right. Well what what are

you going. What's the answer. We want you

you you.

You are right there are we will

never be awake yet.

All we have are again why you're here or

maybe here you are.

The sort of your role we

were.

Oh yeah here you met me yet you see this.

Oh God why was I saying

it for our

mission. Right there we're going to be others.

Oh yeah it was like there. Was nothing that they had

right.

Tomorrow the world

will.

Think.

There's a new normal.

Well you're

right.

Well be it in the right eye lid

you got we were there is one oh.

We were there the FCC leading us to the

question was asked what about this what is the what is the deal about

the mission stand by there from the commission was that

they are doing a study. There was this study. They may recommend a rules

change. They don't know. This is simply an area of opening. Why are you there.

That doesn't mean again it's at the commission. But they are concerned about.

Right.

But for me the moment when you.

See the world.

Are you I know you are here

as well you know you're right

there as you were.

Recently below. But here. I think you

very rarely do you think I don't

think we should. He's very low and I think they're really hate this

guy.

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Right.

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is.

My

bag. Right.

I will call her.

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right. Oh

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a dish he hated

your are a

liar right here

right.

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You. Know.

Her way.

Over there.

You know just there.

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oh why

oh why oh yeah

like her marrying him

and her man.

Will we hire her Oh

yeah.

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Dad.

Oh oh oh

yeah the water.

Where are you going

to marry your Ruth. Oh her.

Just remember.

If you knew you were married you know where you are.

We didn't do well in life.

You know there are

neither who hold their fire.

Oh very well.

Yeah

yeah yeah yeah. You know why are you living

here. You know very

well they are going to.

Go right where you are there.

Yeah.

I live. Here.

You know I don't know. There you go

again. You're really.

Yeah. Oh I wonder I mean question get out. Yeah I think you're right that I

want to talk to you about it but

don't take the groups.

Why.

Oh. Oh

oh.

Oh oh oh

oh oh oh

oh oh oh. Who's that

girl.

I think I think the thing to remember about this is that you are your

life you know you are going to

tell you like what it

was like you were

here.

We are where we.

Are in the world. Here we are

here where.

Who.

Thank you. Very much.

We will go again remind you you

three rivers we know well for

you know you were like you were

like.

We were going there you know. You know

you see here we were out here in

the way you know very

small mean you raiding

your server was like you know

very well known as a river the way you're really.

Now you know that they're

going to move

here are very

very powerful. Learn to love you

know that they're

all right there. You know here you have

even more. You're very little I mean really we've got

our you know

BARLOW You know you have you have

your hit her right head for her

program.

You have a lot of people with you. They're here.

We want them to read and write

and do their duty.

Oh oh oh here you

mother you had already worked

out for a bag mate you might never get her firing

they're not going to lie. Yeah

oh yeah yeah you were aware of my program whether or not

you have them. Yeah yeah

yeah I know. Oh yeah we knew

you know you aren't rude you know you really

look good without going in there and here

and here. Oh you mean

the world. Yeah what are you doing with it. Where

and how do you know

where and when you

go there. You're here you know.

Oh oh oh oh oh oh

oh well here

you were you know we

all want to know who the who are really

he really you know

they were when

he was there. Oh

the area there in the wild. He

wrote while we were out there every week

and with the

higher you go you go with

yeah you very well you know you don't know her well

and here you are you know whatever you want.

Card OH OH OH OH OH OH OH YEAH

RIGHT. Boy oh you know your

heart over all the night her he'd

be there. Oh now you really want a way out

of that. We're all moving more slowly. Yeah but

I really you know oh you know very well

I mean he ate her. Yeah yeah yeah I heard he can.

Hear what you are.

Or what they're hearing.

There you hear it here when I heard he had

me you will hear that you may be

there.

I don't really know why I'm here to be here

looking at that going out with back in my room or

a very rare interview he

would be are you wearing right now for you and then here you

go white or red.

Oh there you go. There

he goes. We care for you.

When a guy who had lived there while

they were living out in the world in learning where we're

going and we were like oh

wow oh yeah right you lying there

that's not really what I

would like to live there.

We'll go there you know.

Right right there you have a lot of people who are in there.

So there you're hearing where you know that they're going to

get you know where you will hear Oh very easy

for where we are. While

they have told her you

we're hearing form or work on her record

and her work you know you already

you know hearing all about her work

live over there but you know you know

they're lying and you know why they're going to

hit you with their you know

oh you know very very good

we're going to prove you wrong.

Oh yeah well you know me. No

more going out here.

Well he looks good in it well.

Oh and what do you hear me.

Oh boy and you know who were you.

Yeah you are right there are

a whole wide world.

You have a little boy. You weren't

going to be made here though you do here. Yeah

he wrote here you were

doing a program where

here they were very

very dark with no rain. There

you go. Right here you go to the car and

hope you get there with Carlo when you were

ready.

You know that you would

have me go away with her and then you are a liar

but her power there. Oh yeah

I heard he. Are you going to

look in my room. But no big

rig. Oh yeah you're right you have been

worried about my career you know. Well you may want to

leave him while he may or

may not.

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know they're hanging I told her you know

he was very thorough reading for a while. Who

who that I'm very sure there are rules of the

game where you know you were there when I was

little I knew what I was going to make neighborhood

when I got there and look at the record he could

underline my word or you know I write

well. Oh well you know we're going we're not going to

where were you when I had her

community. That might work here with the world

community where you know that you know you know well you know

that might be done with a little more

work around but he never may have you know

how you work through that service you know.

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but like well you know there are good or bad

you will go with Michael here me in this

world. We are told in the

movie you know you know.

The

route

right. We're going to the river in reverse here where you

know there how you're you

know you know where you are you there.

Are you looking for when you

do you. Know me. Oh we

will go see you when you we're here

for the world. You're going to

reveal the music you know you you know they're you know

they're very very worried but they are in globalism

here you know.

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you know they're very cold in their

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do. Let me hear it.

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here we know the game.

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the writer will

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live there it will

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goal.

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league you know

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during the war. While

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hear it for now.

We have no real hard news.

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very large order you know or rather

I think we might you know

really be able

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leave you.

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growing very slowly were

really love.

The way.

It was my intention to offer in my trailer to Don

Taverners enviable position of champion story cover. But behind

John Rice goes back track more.

You know on the uncertain terms I wasn't paying more than five minutes and that hardly needs me to

tell the story so I will skip that. You know that I

may have another opportunity. You have already heard

both from John my strawman from Scottie Fletcher.

If your remarks which indicate that there never was a better

time then now for getting into the ATC facilities

program office of probable applications for assistance under the EDV

facilities I don't intend to push that point particularly or give it Tory

lies any further than they've already done what I had constitutes a brief

status report which will give you the figures and some of the facts to back

that up and demonstrates that that isn't exactly a Cassandra type of pronouncement

Arline. I have apologised for not having already visual aids so that I could outline this

for you. I've got to organize in our rough outline form so if any of you care to take

down the figures I think you'll be able to follow it. I remember one of the funds

appropriated for.

And purposes through fiscal 1966 amount to approximately

29 million dollars.

These are all kind of rounded off their approximate the

recommendations made by the commissioner today.

Total seventy two. Let me just. By Christopher on the

point out that with respect to the numbers or with respect to the total dollars so far

you'll find some difference between the 12 million that John and Scott it will be about what I'm about to

mention the reason for that is that they're giving you the funds are actually obligated so far

the figures that I use are based on the recommendations made by the commissioner which may not

yet have been finally approved or. They will also

include grants which have been finally approved but which have not yet been I'm looking at

it because we haven't received the necessary information by the hour that is an attempt to explain why there's a

slight difference in these figures. Job loss

farther than recommended. Why the commissioner 35 grants to

activate and use patients in 37 rooms to expand existing space.

A total of 72 applications.

Wish our gate or have approved before

obligation of total of. 13 million eight hundred fifty two

thousand dollars. Therefore

Item three funds appropriated which

remain available for obligation. As of this date amount

to 15 million one hundred forty eight thousand dollars.

Now as against those loans will remain a brothel available for our

game. We have to consider the pending applications and I'd like to do that sort of in an

A in a be careful because we have two types of pending applications.

The first I'm calling a probable pending application.

There are fire which will be recommended in the New Year. Future In other words they are

currently in transmittal. They have begun the labyrinth in the weight room from

our office through the various offices to get over the demands of us.

These amount to nine hundred ninety six thousand dollars. Five of those. There are

16 more which in our opinion it will be a provable

but processing has been delayed until we get additional information of one kind or another from the

app. These requests a total of three

million one hundred eight thousand dollars. This means that

there are pending 21 approvable

applications capable of being approved in fiscal 66.

They request federal funds amounting to four million nine hundred five.

Thousand dollars.

Therefore the funds which have been appropriated through fiscal 66 June

30th of next year exceed the approval

pending applications requests by approximately 10 million

two hundred forty two thousand dollars. Now we have another category

of pending application. We're not approvable they will show up in our paper figures

as reflecting the need but they are currently in

active and it is highly dubious at least that they might be approved

within fiscal 66. There are for example six in

which the funds requested exceed the statutory limitation of one million

dollars. Those six requests one to three hundred twenty three

dollars for the systems there are in addition 12

applications in which the applicants are unable to provide the matching

funds assurances apparently for a substantial period to come.

Those 12 on request a total of 2 million to 1.

$84000 so often when I talk about a total of

10 million two hundred thousand dollars which are

not spoken for so to speak you have to take into consideration that

at least one goes to all the applications there is a chance of a miracle that somehow the

matching funds will be found to make those approvable applications at this point in time

it seems highly dubious. These 18 applications actually on

file represented in paper figures which have been exempted from filing in fact the

writers made needs. Obviously they do represent the funds requested

active at this point in time we cannot consider them as add their kitchens

now visionary to ever. Patients return at the request to be at

our request a total of about 650 $660000.

What this boils down to is that we have received a total of one hundred thirty

applications which have been accepted for five. Now let me just summarize the

appropriations to date 29 News

obligations or approvals to date 13 million eight hundred

fifty two thousand remain available for obligation

$50000000 in 48 hours and the total of provable

applications which are pending a monsoonal. Approximately 5

media for nearly nine hundred five. The conclusion I think is

fairly obvious and needs no further editorial decision on my part

in order to utilize fully the funds which have been appropriated in fiscal

66. We would need to receive approval

that the case which requires somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 million dollars.

Thank you gentlemen.

One more quick comment.

We have we have now

we have initiated a new policy with regard to advocating

long held out to me and I think I call that your opinion. Some of you know

me the minute advocating

you know Korea where are you the last. Six

months. You know we are reviewing

you know mailable advocating on a regular basis. You know as when

we we're unable LOL very thick. We are

very kind of you know

the applicant can resubmit a

female foreigner about the IG name resubmit. We

are returning something or at him

not far. Oh no member 15 will be returning.

Undoubtedly additional advocate. I did it are you

her and we. For those of you who

do have a game to leave you provide me with a 30 day warning.

Thank you John. I would hope we can not have any questions at this point

so we can for you to learn whether the 6 o'clock we promise 545 frenemy

you have this sent memos bringing you up to date on the entire history of the facilities or

nations within the last month.

These are usually given you are updated.

There I can only give you again your mission has been given to you and I hope you heard

if you want expansion dollars remember fast.

You've got many more months to get these kinds of know

the town appointed mayor so by what Jan was saying about the difference in

standards station trains going to locations he said they may use

different criteria than taking just the location of the station.

And is the state in which the monies flow from. What he's saying is

that they need very well to take money from an adjacent state if the coverage area

of the proposed station goes into the GST state. So look of course in this city

the route and be prepared. I don't know which in most of the run on this

but it is a definite possibility. That's what he was trying to say. He will

say that's not the enrolment I'm telling you it's a definite

possibility. We have said so in various memos in speeches and he is

quite unlike to I don't know of the journalist that I just want.

My congratulations to you in Atlanta conference it was very helpful for those who were there.

I really believe moving right on now we have

a brief announcement that's just about all we have time for for mid marks on

the TV enemy. When I fit in that there's going to be a first

recession on public relations tomorrow no way you can overlook public relations.

10:15 morning the Baltimore room cheering is enormous. So I think that

none of them are down for you. Government attendance tomorrow.

But here's Ed Morris with remarks on the TV again you know when you sit down to one

take I'm a vice president of the National Caring and I was successful this

year. Again education I'm going to put it in the national and the world's.

Most in New. Water using stations had received

information from an excellent candidate telling you that they want to make your nomination

just as a craft group this time I thought was better than trying to compete

with Green Acres song regret room where a good fighting

chance. You're in the wrong. You make your own nominations and there will be a blue ribbon

panel which I've been asked to recommend to the National Academy Awards Committee.

So this year we have a good chance to be represented. I hope that all who participate

because summer is going to get him and I want a guy who would like us it's.

All a chance to say a word about local participation. I only say this to me. There are

nine cities in which service and a can are. Chatter I

think it's very important. It's been very important for us in Chicago to

be participating in the national carrier. If you're in a candid chat or sitting

for godsake again it will be worth my time it will be worth a lot of things to

you Be sure to be eg. He's here in a sense putting out to suspend chatter.

You know having our eyes war because we're working or as a boy from

Los Angeles or more in New York about like thank you I

did the mediator contact this year in televised live.

Your words are always has been a great deal of them a great deal of the local and to

do them and this past fall and I think all credit to them it's a good suggestion

new locally.

Now we have two very word points coming up in the

hands of our attorney and tax managers Mr. Reuben Clark Wilmer

Pickering you were introduced to he was introduced to you earlier.

He's going to speak to two points one is not only you know but he will speak to we're going to be very briefly

but again you better listen closely and if there's any doubt about whether you can still listen closely

the party is still there that must be what is on my list. OK so take a stretch but keep listening.

He's going to talk about business ownership for the teen and he's going to talk

about permissible warmonger miscible lobbyist Robin Clark.

Thanks. For

joining me. Harriet currently writing a thesis

and I suppose the best time to do is try to acquire in prominent areas for you

the first thing to remember it seems to me and the question about the sanctions that

federal law may apply to TV educational stations that

they wonder too far afield and the business activity is that they are basically

exempt organization. Those areas there are described in the

Internal Revenue Code of the same and charitable organizations I describe

and there are under certain requirements which are

most important in determining how far you can go into business and the first

thing to note is that in any example the occasional.

As a nation has a certain statutory framework and that it should be a

standard and the exemption has two consequences the first that your profits are not passed

and this area of the country be it seems to you. I did title

this in very close territory and you can't get too far away from in that areas

and an educated Taney organisation like North

Korea are very annoying Rs. Must be

Aryan Aryan explicitly educational purposes and that no

harm in that noose can do it to the Better than any current individual.

Now this warrior is very is very narrow and one apart from a specific

situation can result in a problem. For example during periods let me give you an

example of how it could happen or wave

client some years ago as a star worker who Senator Kerry found a pen

and ink and he mellows he did write Korean accommodation was giving money away or

chariot. I really cannot hire a lawyer

campaign attacking assets in this nation buying and selling are Iraq

and various other words the foundation was trying. They are

moving very quickly to say you are not. Organizing operated exclusively for charitable

purposes. You're becoming a trainee are you going to be in the business or

training and therefore you have lost your exams Towner much to his

surprise. So their abuse history and you've got to bury more

but the courage is not quite this inflexible intensive business

operators and fire law recognizes that an education no

Kimi stay here any honor charioteer

hereon acquire business and use this products.

Yet this willing knows profits past. The good exactly this could be

an educational TV station in this beginning career training

as a envision its activities and using a profit from

least to gain power and the last thing you can do here. You will in their

lead profits. Tax at what is pork and related taxable

income. Yes immediately raises the question how are you

going to get it. This is deliberate in education or exam TV

going is near. There is going. To there's. All we can say oh

yeah clearly you cannot get into this beginning business

you can't primarily get into this begetting business where the percentage

tests lie.

No one knows. I would say as a practical rule of start

somewhere well below the 50 percent more.

Now. The lawyer for a modest unrelated

taxable business income has certain important exemption and such

income as dividends rents and royalties except

that if you count on a portfolio of securities

you can acquire real property and I don't have passive rental income

and you can rinse out say rerun rights or something like that and have this cut

America income without it. In the category of unrelated

business income. We leave regularly with in the case of

educational areas who came and got

caught in well unrelated business.

You came from an educational organization but in most

areas and again when you think about education

for example the regulations are very clearly an agricultural school an operator Wicklow

and the profit from the sale of wheat will not meet unrelated business as

more with the former is a part of the college and is designed to train.

Similarly the operations of goodwill industry when you

actually a purpose the organization is to employ

who manufacture it second hand. We have going to take second hearing good thing for the

Empire's do a search related to the education or for the town a purpose and that is

that period there's no problem with unrelated business then current.

But in the case of an educated opinion station on a corner attention to the current

regulation that I find particularly ambiguous they raided a university ring

a patient or. Is considered a related trade or business Department

primarily. As an integral part of the educational program of the universe did but it's been

so good an underlayer business operate in 53 the same manner as a

commercial radio station a publishing house.

A commercial radio station in the case of the universe and it seems to

be unrelated to the educational purposes of the universe.

We went to commercial radio station run very educational

TV nonprofit corporation. Well that's the only

way I don't know where the line.

Between being educational to meet and

community in terms of the quiet period with

Frank.

Maybe I'll go on with an a little but it

does seem to me that there is some of their power

in terms of the extent to which educational Pete ate

all follow.

We're still practicing those but our.

Coming up our concepts which currently exist in the aid

trucks had to go.

Also to that point. And the educational television stations

must look at the nephew and what constitutes unrelated business

and her kind of reading if it is wrestling with

its rules with respect to being in the paper it

was a this would be their kind of thing in the case of the net would be a graphic of the

American Medical Association.

And so on. Indicate me so many know that

advertising and communication appear is unrelated taxable

business. You are.

This morning sun will shoot in the room. We're going to

create a big educational TV to any

extent uses front page sponsors for

the underwriting program here and here I would I would

note that the problem may be exacerbated in the long run. The competitive

aspect of this kind of operation is my understanding that this

is not in fact much of a major source. Of income

to educational TV stations today nor is it likely to be so. But in terms of the

concept that we're dealing with an appearance of the rigidity of some of these

definitions that the tax lawyer uses it seems to me it's well the

flag this problem today. No

there are couple of other things that need to be flagged it seems to me in the case of In the

case of educational TV stations and the tax system

it must be annoying. That the code includes certain very

stringent sanctions which may apply to human friends actions which are.

Applicable across the board to exempt organizations including

including educational TV station for example.

You cannot. Spend longer than

five years if you use was borrowed money

to construct the quarters. But hiring the

rental income. Otherwise tax exempt suddenly become you

under section are going for an internal revenue code. So poke business at least in

her. I say this because this is the kind of

specific crap that works in the code. That means that

when you come. To examining business to examine the

potential for a business transaction it may be somewhat out of the ordinary and to

expand as you create new building and as you feel you may want to read some of these.

Borrow money and then rent some of the space up tell you have a chance to use it yourself.

There are trucks of work in the code which will well no warrant

consulting with your attorney about to make sure that you're not going

into one of these possible safes in areas

where there are other. As well which I would I would

I really don't have the time to fly. But there are specific

sanctions which reported human transactions which apply to such

matters as accumulations of income for 0 0 0 0 investment policy.

No specific sanctions only come good for example. He

better be careful how you invest your portfolio. You kind of go on to speculate of

investments if you're going to speculate of investments. You may in fact jeopardize your

basic exemption because of the fact because one of the specific

sanctions written and written into the code.

So I would simply in haste conclude by saying

that basically educational TV in the business area

faced with a general sanction the general statutory or restricted to exist governing

all exempt organizations which I mentioned and the specific statutory sanctions

applicable to given friends actions and actions which like any

other exempt organization educational TV must carefully bear in mind

and it is a point it seems to me to bear in mind at this point of

time because we are decidedly in a state of flux in the world the

Patten report of last year. The Treasury report. Private foundation is

both indicate that there is going to be or probably is likely to be some

new legislation that's going to be up with a bill to exempt

organizations to many exempt organizations possibly to educational TV.

That's a way that may further restrict the capacity of educational

stations to conduct their affairs substantially like other business or

business organization.

I would go into town briefly to say a few words about the also important

restrictions in the Internal Revenue Code and lobbying activity.

The basic problem here is the fact that we have.

Some very tight room enunciated in the law and enunciated

by the courts which if it really applied to the real world would be unworkable.

But the studies are where the language is there

and is there and this picture is in the language. I'll try it out in a minute.

And simply said.

And I'm calling your attention to the mo because it is there and because I was

given some factual circumstances there is always the possibility that these

pictures might be applied. Although in the real world that we learned

many of these pictures are clearly unworkable. But the law

basically has a twofold approach to the restrictions on lobbying

and the first is that there are well that there are three

statutory Brown let me flag me three statutory grounds by which

educational TV station an exempt organization may lose its

exemption because of political or legislative activity and this is applicable

across the board to exempt organizations and there was no exclusion of educational

TV. The first is it must be organized and

operating schools only for educational purposes I just. One of them.

The second is a substantial part of its activity cannot

consist of carrying on propaganda all get this

otherwise attempting to influence legislation. All the

organization cannot participate in or intervene in any political campaign

on behalf of any candidate.

No you will note that the exclusively for educational

purposes means that the organization must people organize and

operate the organized test is a pretty poor one and I gather you're OK

because it simply would fit your formal papers been cooperation must put certain

strictures on what you can and cannot do.

If it doesn't do it we're not going to. But if it if you draw your

papers correctly and say you can. Goonies thinkin you're right this is a sick

organization no test is a test it has head to head is

as good so no example is a shoe through sheer carelessness carelessness and

not not throwing the papers KIRK The most significant test is that no matter how

effectively are organized year by year the sevice will look to your

activities to see whether or not you for you are regarded as an

action organization. No there are three types of action

organization. But if in any given year more than a

substantial part of your activities are attempting to influence legislation by propaganda

on the web you lose your exemption or if you intervene in political campaigns

or if you advocate campaigning for main objectives which you can paint only

too much is kind of bad for the real problem. A crucial problem

is a substantial part of your activities cannot be attempting to influence

legislation. No the service goes out very

specifically. What is attempting to influence legislation. And this includes

such things as contact contacting members of the legislative body for the

purpose of proposing supporting or opposing legislation

all they deem the public to contact members of a legislative body for

the purpose of proposing supporting opposing legislation. Oh

advocating the adoption or rejection of legislation and lead and

then legislation will please action by Congress. Any state legislature any

council local council or similar going to a body and so forth.

Well my time is up. Oh I can soon.

After this and the point of new structures is to conclude by saying

that from this point on there. No real going on.

Going on.

Oh you can say what is substantial is

something that will undoubtedly still be determined the best thing that one can

do is really to use one's head as far as

possible to help individuals interested in educational TV duodenum boy.

As far as you can. Secondly when ever you have it you are called upon to

appear before a legislative body if possible seek out an

invitation to appear and appear like a man.

I can't tell you where the nest but this pictures are there.

It would mean we stripped you someday somebody like the League of Women Voters last year

exemption in court maybe. Thank you very much.

Tire guy. My next program will be here. It's only right

here on these things across to me and I want to know that you can answer. This is for him it's a skill

lawyer before you cross the street when this is not a bad idea. As

far as all of the sick to me he's concerned because he's not talking about threats. You lose a

tax exemption although you might as well give up the transfer. So be

careful.

Listen for these things you know what they are. Now it's gone.

We're very happy to talk or have you hear from

two guys who are reserving the second most important man in the Western Conference guidance

already talked about it and this is the creation of ETF program service. We've raised about

half a million dollars this year since Austin and we're delighted at this

point to have you here in a very brief report from life

from big weiner. They will tell you what is the next step. You will enjoy

Otto.

Thank you John. Wiley. Things happen all afternoon when I was asked Mark periods

and chance to stand up. It really feels good right.

Right. Making our report to you. And yet we do want to fill you in on what has

happened since last March in Boston when duty of program services

committee was appointed and got busy almost immediately later

to set up some rough outline of what was to be done as far as tears in your program

service for. Years. And years you know for sort of

already been given today's Guardian charter been very very busy securing grants for us

and.

Getting injured a piece on almost half a million dollars that will operate

our. Program service soon preventing same from Alaska

for having too much boys Mike cooks serving it

and I've been waiting all afternoon to these big chains. And.

You know.

What I. Mean.

Scotty and Chuck are securing a home for the service

on the campus at Indiana University and everything seems to be progressing

in great shape.

We have a director for the service and that took a good deal of time scream trying

to find just the right man for this particular job. Speak to there just another moment.

We do have one and that is another hurdle that we had crossed. The

Committee and this issue has looked alright on paper at any rate a full layout

of titles from any key programs that we did get on paper

to look at and some negotiations still have to be taken care of.

But we have refused to send a recommended list to David Leonard so that

he can look this over and in turn make for the negotiations on basis where

and on Friday night. Last week the entire four member committee came

into Washington and sat around and did a good deal of

deliberation over what. Shell be a policy for this

organization. I'll show you work. I will programs be sent out to station

how we acquired programs what kind of program shall we acquire things of this kind and a report

that you may have on your desk today as a result of that I should say that I do Leonard work very

hard to get back together and through the flashing out process that we had on Friday night.

We did manage to get it put in condition so that you can have a chance to read it and we'll talk

more about bad just a little bit later term. So you help me with these lows to dig.

And on Saturday we went over to the station WAGA and we spent the entire day over

there screening some 24 Television programs that came

in which a representative of Siri that we thought would be good programs perhaps to

distribute a national basis these are programs that Dave had solicited from many of

you all of you certainly were not notified of these but the programs get very good about

sending them to us and we did the right polls are about ready to pop out at the end of the

day. A good look at all of these programs and evaluate them very carefully and

selected some 10 titles which we think tentatively at least will make good

offerings for U.P.S. program service. This represents about 120

programs which you know are going to be able to make about 300 programs available. The first year of

operation. That's what the operation calls for so we're going to

plan to meet again. I'm Jane we're even tired and we will meet again this month for the

screen to write the other titles and to make up our minds. Very definitely of what is to be

set up. So that's about where we stand tonight. We're very proud to be able to offer you

at 8 o'clock an opportunity in the delivery room to come down and look at programs that

we selected because we like to have you see some of those shows too. We think some of them might be good

and the kinds of things that you will want and this is the kind of service that we want always to bring

you what is educational television program service and one of the big

questions that we have big we know a few things I'm out of at this point we know is to be a

co-operative Exchange servers. We know that the purpose is to fill the gap

between CSC team net and Great Plains Regional

Library and these other sources and that's a big operation. We don't want to

duplicate what other sources of supply and what to do.

We don't want to realize of course that this grant that we hand well it sounds like to me. On a Sunday morning

going to have to stretch over a period of about six years this organization

plans to operate in the black so we can accomplish miracles in the first

year or two of our operation we hope to do that later on. I think we've accomplished

one great thing that is in the wiring. They let it.

Stand to do the big job. Director I don't think you need a great deal of

introduction. We do know that he has worked in educational television for a long time.

Has been a program manager and a producer has been a teacher who has worked at the

networking level and he really knows his stuff on his mode of distribution. We call

him the white pony tail I think because since he moved into Bloomington

on October 4th things are really going fine there are a tremendous amount of work done.

There's kind of a real organizer. And I'm very happy to turn the rest of this or him right big.

Thank you auto for the kind words and for saying most of what I had to say.

Which is all right. The sheet which has just been coming round is Paige trying the

policies and procedures statement I got for duplicate and then I finally got around to reading and discovered the

page I have been left out so. You can add that to the list and be in better shape than you

were. And if you don't didn't get one there are still some floating around someplace you'll find

these will also be sent out to the stations as soon as I get back

from Washington so that the stations you want here are the people who are here that

forget to hand them on to the people who ought to have them presumably get them we will be making meetings to

program managers and public relations people in each station regularly.

I really only have two or three things that I can say. One is about program

submissions. We did send out on a nice blue form suggesting that

stations should submit programs. I don't have a stack of these

available tonight for anyone else who wants to join the club and propose programs for

the TS program service.

I had expected following this convention and people becoming aware that the program

service does exist now but there will be a number of submissions coming in.

This does lead me to the other point and that is that the program service does exist. The money's

in the bank. I'm on the job with the secretary on the job.

I got a telephone and an address and an office and a borrowed

desk and a rented typewriter. And we're in business.

We also have a stack of programs some of which are all all of it duplicated and ready

to go.

These will be sent into Bloomington following the

convention and the first offerings of the TS program service

should be available for programming around the first of December. These will be very many in

number that they will be growing moment by moment or week by week over

what we can work it out as other programs we have cleared duplicated and available.

One other big point is that all of this will be gone into

some detail and all the rest of the city and anyone can desire.

Tonight starting at 8 o'clock in the dorm room we'll also show samples of

some of the series which we have picked and we're going to attempt to have so with

going on in the program to be shown tonight. Yeah I can

see one two three four five six

seven.

Let's see there are programs from seven series and from the last series which is the TS Reader's

Digest Foundation Award series we have on hand the last time I looked two

programs and they're supposed to be some more somewhere lying around in the year or landed on the ground

someplace and we get them by o'clock tonight. Well a lot also be able to show those. So you

tonight I don't want you to

a.

I hope you heard loud and clear his point that he arrived around his point there. Drive on the job done

October 4th and lived in a motel for a week until we bought our house and

moved let's say very rapidly.

That was 28 days ago.

You'll see tonight a service beginning to be in big in 28 days which

is to me revolutionary I was safely here in Washington while they were out there

working the program committee which did such a great job by the way consists

of Bob Larson in Boston Jim case Los Angeles John Rice San Francisco Berman of

Athens Georgia Chris Carlson Katie CA feet. I appreciate your

indulgence having stay here so long and as much as I'm Last up and I get to

live my own life I would have to get out on time. If there are things that we don't get done in this

area we can meet at some other time and place and go over the point.

The most important thing to remember in terms of the legislation grants is that tomorrow.

There will be a full dress tomorrow. Our association lowing experts in the Arlington Richmond

run up to 15 and it will go until about

12:15 or until you get tired of asking questions that's the place where you want to get these

specific questions. I only want to throw a few things into you really quickly in the first

place on legislation.

This is really a very very big year and next year I don't think will be nearly so big.

We have the Elementary and Secondary act for humanities arts act the Higher Education

Act copywrite and a couple of other lesser bills that never did come out

next year. You've already heard about copyright.

You've already heard about facilities act I urge you to read Senator Magnussen speech on the

facilities and look at what he's saying for you which is to say who do we really need an

extension of the facilities. Needless to say we've already written the answer and distributed it

which is yes and it's going to be up to you to work in

terms of convincing everybody in your state in your area that this is the fact. I wouldn't

want to throw out one of my book heroes this to all of you in terms of the one crisis we had

this year that you sound very quickly. We found out on Thursday one week not too many

weeks ago that the Senate did not approve an 8 million dollar appropriation for the facilities AG

on Friday we wrote to you and on Monday you began to send back your

responses which were to keep to the point. We want more money for the facilities

act appropriated this year. We get 48 telegrams in 48 hours

and presented this in the form of a report to the Senate and House committees the next day and two

days later they restored the cut for what you all as I say deserve a tremendous

book A because without your information we could not have done a thing. I also have on the back

all of those who sat at the other end of telephones and did some very strenuous work in

the right places to get the right response.

Now so much for legislation next year is going to recant Again copyright and

facilities Act are coming along and you've got to be aware of it on the national scene on the

grands area this is the year when for the first time a

tremendous number of grants have been made to each TV stations I see a tremendous number of ads up

from zero and this year we have about 12 that we've

already reported to you and I suspect about six more that have not been reported. All this information

has been passed along to you in the manager's memo so I won't labor you with that except to say

to talk about the future. I might add there are about a million. Dollars and grants have been given

from 12 agencies to TV stations this year to produce programs

with federal money. This is the first year in which this is ever going is going to want to. It is at the point

right now were federal dollars going to educational television programming as well as the facilities

that is at the same level as the Ford Foundation dollars going in and next year

it will skyrocket upward so that the federal government now looms is here as the

largest spender of dollars in education television might as well get used to

it it's not big. There are some things that we should anticipate coming up that you

may not hear about in any other place. The Small Business Administration in about five

weeks will send out to all of you all.

Last time it was only half of you this time will be all of you notice for inquiring

about bids for production.

Small Business Administration intends to spend about 30 to 35 thousand dollars on a

contract information I don't know much about but they will describe it to you. There

your first response was to say yes you're interested if you are. And you will find yourself

in the interesting position of competing. One of the other and this is an interesting

arena to be in if you think it's worth the production dollars go right ahead. The

station has such a grant from them this year and it's producing.

I just got to know.

Very quickly two of them. It's going to be up the Food and Drug Administration

is let me tell you those are not for getting economic opportunity. Forget the Food and Drug Administration

nursing ministrations turn them to what we think there's some other obvious good

places to turn.

The place however where you're going to get the money this year is in the education legislation. Elementary and

Secondary Education Act dials 1 and 3 have lots of money and you can get

it. Higher Education Act as money particularly Title

6 is going to work in close circuit TV. The other titles in the program dollars

you will have higher education institutions and stations that can work with higher education institutions

can get that money. This is specific money to do a specific job. It's not

just money with strings attached you have to do to find out what the Act says. And we

have put into your kids information that you have. Tomorrow is the time when you should

come prepared to ask intelligent questions and get hopefully

intelligent answers from the experts in the education legislation. We sent to you

the DVR a magazine that has all of the stuff listed. And it's the best source available.

Let me know of for all of the information. Bill my bill in

here and don't get the questions answered. One last point this is

the provider of information available on

grants programs from Health Education and Welfare. I might say that it's AGW that provides most

of the grants 99 percent of them so far as the TV kinds of projects are concerned.

Get a copy across two and a half if you're interested in this kind of thing. I found out in Atlanta that most of the

AGW agencies in the scene. But you get it and you'll be all right.

I'll put it it's called Branson in other financial assistance programs we can put in a memo this is the 64

65 EDITION we'll send you the dope about it where to get it. It's well worth the

price. If you're interested in this business only the last admonition on this. You better be prepared to

work pretty hard to get some money. You better do a good job. Me blue

is going to go of the rose next year even I have to deliver this year they were fascinated with a new toy

next year they're going to sit down and watch what you produced. Thank you very much we

appreciate it. There are any other questions about anything. I will be happy trying to

refer to those who can.

Thank you

thank you.

For.

The last word. Everybody had serialised heard.

Me.