- Series
- Hazards to education
- Air Date
- 1955-04-17
- Duration
- 00:29:15
- Episode Description
- This program, the first of two parts, focuses on the hazards that philosophical diversity poses to education.
- Series Description
- Walgreen Lecture series on the present hazards to American education as seen and presented by Robert M. Hutchins. Each lecture discusses one particular problem.
- Subject(s)
- Creator(s)
- University of Chicago (Producer)
- Contributors
- Hutchins, Robert Maynard, 1899-1977 (Speaker)
- Genre(s)
- Geographic Region(s)
- regions
- Time Period
- 1951-1960
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The following tape recorded program is a presentation of the National Association of educational
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broadcasters.
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Hazards to education in the United States.
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The University of Chicago radio office presents the third in a series of four talks by Robert
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Hudgens associate director of the Ford Foundation. Mr. Hutchens spoke under the
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auspices of the Walgreen lectureship at the University of Chicago. Today's program is
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entitled philosophical diversity.
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Mr. Hodgins.
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We talked last night about
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a problem arises by philosophical diversity. Is
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essential. That is the problem
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of forming a community and the absence of communication
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and the educational system and particularly in the university.
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It is the problem of forming a thinking community when the
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members of the community cannot think together because they
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cannot communicate with one another.
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Specialization means that specialized man
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cannot think together because their training and their work have split them off from other men.
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Philosophical diversity may mean that men cannot think together
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because their principles tacit or expressed
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are so different that their conversation if they try to have any
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vote is on parallel lines.
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This problem is of course particularly difficult
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because philosophy is itself a university department.
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And is itself highly specialized.
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Since philosophy is a university department it cannot be the
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concern of any other part of the university.
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We all know that only the English department can do anything
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about the kind of writing done by the students at the university.
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It would be presumptuous for the History Department to set any literary
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standards for its students just as as it is
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generally thought important for the English department to
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pretend to know anything about history. I shall
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always treasure the remark. Of the chairman of the mathematics
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department at Chicago. Now long since gone to
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his reward.
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He was discussing the future of one of his most promising graduate students
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and Man of the highest mathematical ability. He said you know
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Mr. Hutchens I think he's crazy in
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some alarm I asked why.
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And the chairman replied why he's interested in philosophy.
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If this was a situation in mathematics. And I imagine what
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I have seen happen when young men in science or in medicine.
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They exhibited the same wayward tendency to wonder about
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the wonder about the fundamental presuppositions of their work.
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As a university department philosophy a subject to Wallie
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other influences affecting university departments such as
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they are universally aroused by experimental science.
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The misconception of research and the horrible fate
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that has overtaken a once proud degree of Doctor of Philosophy.
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A specialized department of philosophy. Often appears to be
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non humanistic or even anti humanistic.
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Non-intellectual or even anti intellectual and
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gauged in the manufactured by esoteric names of
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PH days who will teach in other departments of philosophy and whose
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work cannot possibly be of interest. The one a body but persons teaching
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and departments of philosophy.
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Things are of course in this respect. No better outside the
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university than with then. Which is cause and which is a
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fact. I do not pretend to know in
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a world gone mad over technology science or the
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production of material goods and lengthening human life.
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It is not to be expected that the enlightenment that philosophy might
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provide would be greatly sought after or highly valued.
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Nor can I claim that all modern philosophy does the same at first glance
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capable of shedding much riper. Pragmatism
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and positivism. Provide no standard for the criticism of thought.
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Pragmatism provides perhaps a criterion of action.
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Positivism doesn't even do that. And
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it's logical or mathematical manifestations
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positivism seems to be the efflorescence of man's
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despair that he cannot more easily make intelligible
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statements about the world. Marxism
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is of course an explanation for everything. But entirely
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aside from its current vulnerability as the official
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dogma of the political order that is repulsive to Rice.
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Marxism fails to account in a rational way for so
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many important facts about man that it is hard to take its
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philosophical pretensions very seriously.
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The prevailing positivism and scientism assure
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us that only the verifiable facts preferably that was
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verified in the laboratory and be in any real sense known
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to us. Since man's terrestrial salvation
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depends on knowledge. We can rest only to the verifiable facts
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to save us. Positivism and scientism
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regard themselves as completing the task done by
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Epicurus and gracious two thousand years ago.
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The task of ridding mankind of its superstitious.
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Since then the work of many professional philosophers isn't
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applicable to any of the problems of life. And
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since the rhetoric of many is directed to showing that no philosophy
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can have any but a harmful effect on life and since all
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philosophers seem to disagree anyway. It is natural
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that the world has become more and more until our
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handy philosophical. Why worry about something as vague
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useless confusing contradictory and menacing as philosophy
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seems to be.
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And yet civilization is a deliberate pursuit
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of a common ideal. Education is a
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deliberate attempt to form men in terms of an ideal.
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That is the attempt of a society to produce the type of man that
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it wants. How does a society determine the type of
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man it wants. If it doesn't know the type of man that it
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wants How does it judge the educational efforts it makes.
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It may be said of course that the type of man I Society wants
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is a product of many historical and psychological factors.
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And that whatever philosophy enters into the formation of its vision
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of man. Is simply a rationalization of
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this largely unconscious product. But
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even if this were so we know that in every society
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there is some vision of man and nature and his destiny.
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It is elaborated by philosophers living and dead. And
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this vision interacts with the traditional view of the type of
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man desired and this special philosophical vision
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does amount to a criticism of the tradition and practices
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of the educational system. Education
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without a colossal feat of education. Without that is a
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coherent statement of the aims and possibilities of education is
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impossible. Of
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course a custodial system is possible without a philosophy
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of education. Already other kind of philosophy
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of cause study or system may in fact be regarded as the
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efflorescence of a society's despair but it can make no
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rational incoherent statement about the type of man that it wants to
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produce. Society therefore declines to
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leave the matter to chance providing harmless accommodation and
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occupation for the young until they reach maturity.
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This I should be careful to point out is an entirely different thing from
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saying that the kind of man we want is one who can thank and act for
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him south and they're forever going to let him learn for himself.
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While the educational system doesn't really matter for him than keep him out of harm's
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way.
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Though I do not favor this philosophy of education. I admit it is one.
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This is an adaptation of the Lasik fair our free enterprise system to wedge a
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cation that approaches no one popular at Harvard until
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the retirement of President Alyea and vestiges
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of this philosophy still remain to plague the
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universities. And some variations of what is known as
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progressive education seem to be built on the same premises.
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The term most obvious disadvantages of the Harvard elective system.
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I don't progressive education. Our first but in a way
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implies that teachers need not know any more than their pupils. What an
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education it is. And second they break up the community of
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learning that might exist among his students and deprive them of
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the assistance of their fellow students during their schooling of their
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ability to communicate with their fellow students during their schooling and with their
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fellow man and later life.
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A custody all system that frank and open kind
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which American education seems bent on developing requires
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neither philosophy nor educational philosophy. And the
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question is whether the philosophical diversity now rampant in the
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road leads inevitably to a custody all system.
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Must we say that because philosophers differ and some
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even hold that there is no such thing as philosophy. We cannot have a
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philosophy of education and hence not an educational system.
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I assume that we would like to have an educational system rather than a
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custodial one if we could.
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If we are to have a philosophy of education it has to rest on
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a rational conception of man and society. It also has
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to take into account the philosophical diversity characteristic of our
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time and has to take a cup moreover of the fact that
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there is no authority that can decide among competing philosophies
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the incredible number of school boards legislatures roads or
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bridges boards of trustees together with principals superintendents
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presidents chancellors and faculties are almost all of them
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more or less autonomous or taught autonomous centers of educational
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decision and business of raising ourselves by our
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own bootstraps. You know one new one rational world will not be easy.
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Well let us see what we can learn from Utopia.
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Utopia is singularly like the United States and that there is no
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central educational authority. Nevertheless
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it has been able to develop a philosophy of education.
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It has been able to do this in spite of the fact that in Utopia
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too there is philosophical diversity
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utopians even and says that philosophically very city is a good thing.
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They say that it is always existed even in those periods of history
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in which there has been a strong religious or political authority that
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nominally exercised control over the thoughts of man.
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Utopians pointed out that such authorities have never succeeded
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and have usually not tried to suppress philosophical
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diversity. That phenomenon has been a
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manifestation of modern progress and has appeared only
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with the totalitarian state. Of
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course there are in Utopia no under specialized
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institutions the utopians have never allowed
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themselves to be annoyed by such slogans as adjusting the
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young to their environment or meeting the immediate needs of society
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because they have sharply defined the purpose of their educational system
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and its purpose is to promote the intellectual development of the people.
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The reason for the strength of the utopian family and the utopian church
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and the utopian educational system is that each has its prescribed
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task. No utopian for example. Whatever I've been
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guilty of the proposition advanced to me the other day by an
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eminent bishop in California. Who said that education
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should be limited to the elite and that the that the mass of the
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people should receive such culture as they need from the family and the
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church. The utopians think that intellectual
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development is too important to be left to amateurs.
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And since they are devoted to democracy. They do not see how they can
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maintain and improve it unless every citizen has a
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chance to become as wise as he can.
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The utopians are a sensible people.
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They know enough to know the children of the age of sex cannot and should
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not do the kind of work and school that fairground men should tackle
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utopians not all the physical and moral development are involved in Maori
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and intellectual development. Their educational system makes
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provision for the participation of educators in physical and
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moral development at the proper stages and the proper ways.
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But never in such ways as to confuse anybody about who has the
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responsibility at each stage for intellectual development and who
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are marital and physical growth.
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Utopians believe that education is a
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conversation aimed at truth. Their
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object is to get everybody to take part in this conversation.
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They're there for a start their children off by teaching them the techniques of
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conversation. Those of you who have children
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may fail at this is a work of supererogation
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but the utopians believe that there is a great difference between chattering and can very
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sing. The first 10 years of the utopian
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educational system is devoted first of all to teaching reading
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writing and figuring out the cause they are aware of the
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axiom that subjects that cannot be understood without
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experience should not be taught to those who are without experience.
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They do not go out there and experience children with what are called
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the Social Studies. They want to face
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the minds and touch to the imagination. But the kind of knowledge
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suitable to the years of children in the first 10 years of his
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education therefore in addition to the subjects I have already mentioned
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the young utopian studies history geography and the greatest
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literature of the world. It is not supposed that he will
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understand all the implications of history and literature
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but it is believed that he should be introduced to them in childhood and in
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such a way that he will want to continue to study them all his life.
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Since nobody can understand his own language or what our language is
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by speaking or studying his own every young
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master is a foreign language. And every young utopian studies
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science for this subject. The utopians regard is
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indispensable to understanding the modern world and they believe
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that as a subject it does not require experience. It is one
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appropriate to children.
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In view of the celebrity eyed utopians have achieved in the world of art and
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music I need hardly add that all of them study these
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subjects.
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By the age of 16 therefore the young utopian. I
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studied very few disciplines but he has studied
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all rows appropriate to his time of life.
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The object has been to get him to go on studying them as long as he lives.
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The object has also been to fed him to wonder stand any new idea
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already new field that presents itself to him and the
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great overruling object has been to prepare him to become
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a member of the Republic of learning and of the political
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Republic. Almost all the teaching in Utopia
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is conducted through discussion. The educational system
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is a paradigm of the conversation through which learning is
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advanced and throw which item ocracy works.
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At the age of 16. Earlier if he is ready for it
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the utopian passes into the college.
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Harry continues to study history geography literature science
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music and art but the emphasis shifts.
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From learning the techniques of communication to obtaining familiarity
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with the principal views of the world that men have developed on the
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leading ideas that have animated mankind.
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The curriculum from the beginning of the elementary school through the college
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is completely prescribed whereas students.
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Utopians do not believe that any civilized man can omit
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any of the subjects that are included in the course of study
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and they do not doubt that the educational profession is better
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qualified to say what children should study than the children themselves.
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The utopians have heard of the American plan by which a certain
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number of courses whatever they are finally add up to a
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degree but the utopians are as I have said
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sensible people.
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The credit system has never been introduced among them.
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This is one of the things that makes the country utopia.
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Somewhere between the ages of 18 and 20
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or whenever he is ready. The Utopian presents himself for
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examination that cover the whole of his education up to that point.
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These examinations which are constructed by an outside board
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reflect what the educational profession of utopia. Thanks OG. I was a
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liberal education and education appropriate to a free man.
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If the student passes these examinations he is awarded the degree of
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Bachelor of Arts utopians have never been confused
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about the award of this degree at this stage because a degree is never been
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debased and our certificate of time served or
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credits accumulated or a license to enter a graduate school
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or a qualification for membership in the University Club.
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The Bachelor of Arts degree and Utopia has always stood for
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a liberal education and this is what the examinations at the
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end of the College of Utopia stand for till.
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After leaving the college. The young utopian has two courses open to him.
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He may either enter upon the task of earning his living in the
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justly famous free enterprise system of his country.
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Or you may if he is qualified proceed to the university.
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But it never occurs to any utopian that his education should stop
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when he leaves college whether he goes into the university or not.
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I have said that one of the premises upon which the educational program of
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Utopia is constructed is that subjects that cannot be
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understood without experience. Should not be taught to the
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inexperienced. History and Literature or
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are therefore taught only by way of introduction in the schools and college
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of utopia. The social sciences do not appear as such at
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all. Yet the utopians recognize that history
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literature and such knowledge as a social sciences have gained
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must be understood by civilized men utopians
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also believe that a man must go on learning all his life that
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he can do so if he is a man and if he does not do so he
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will cease to be one. Therefore the
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whole country is dotted with centers of education
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for adults young and old where the most important
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theoretical and practical questions are discussed.
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Some of these adult education groups again with the current issue of the
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utopian times and work backward to first principles.
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Some of these groups began with Homer o enjoys a considerable
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reputation in Utopia and work forward to the pressing
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problems of the day. The object of these groups
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is not to confer the social prestige or vocational advancement
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upon the members. It is to continue the intellectual develop
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the liberal education of the individual as utopian and
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demand. The centers of
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adult education and Utopia are all residential.
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The people have learned that the educational consequences of
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evening classes scattered over a period of weeks well they're better
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than nothing. Do not compare with the results that can be
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achieved by having groups live together for a limited time
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and share in that continuous conversation about important
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subjects. Which to utopian is education.
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The whole industrial and agricultural life of the country.
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Revolves around the obligation that is fed by the whole community
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to spend some part of each year an organized study of this kind.
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No utopian would think of taking a vacation and the American
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sense of the word and the summer resorts and even the winter resorts of
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that country are really centers of adult education.
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The organization of the University of utopia. I've
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already roughly described it as
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constituted of institutions of about 25
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professors. Until hundred and fifty students each.
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These institutions are exclusively residential for the same
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reason that the centers of adult education and Utopia are residential
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specialized study and Utopia begins only in the university.
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The university is built on the principle that man home must be
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intensively trained in the specialties must not lose their liberal
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education or their ability to communicate with other men
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or their interest in an capacity to understand ideas in any
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field of learning.
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