Addiction: Midwest status

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The following program is produced as a public service feature by the radio division of the Moody
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Bible Institute of Chicago.
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With cooperation from the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and the Illinois division of narcotic
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control. WE PRESENT.
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H is for joy.
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Midwest America sometimes called the heart of the nation on the shore
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of a great England lake stands a city a city of glass steel and concrete
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inhabited by some 3 million people. This city like New York City
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does not sleep it too is restless and as old as it is it still
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suffers from Growing Pains. The city Chicago Illinois
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one of the pains of growing is in compassed in the 6000 narcotic addicts that live there.
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But to the federal narcotics bureau Chicago is more than a city of glass steel and
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concrete. It's the headquarters of the bureau's Ninth District and District
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Number nine is not the Chicago area alone.
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We asked Mr. George Bell the district supervisor what District Number nine
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includes other states Illinois Indiana
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and Wisconsin.
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Now just how widespread is addiction in your district.
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The addiction question and wished is primarily concentrated
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in the Chicago metropolitan area
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with some additional small
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percentages in Indiana and Wisconsin but the concentration is
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around northern Illinois.
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Mr Bucky do you have any breakdown as far as the number of addicts in this particular district.
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Well in a state the state of.
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Illinois there's six thousand one hundred ninety
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one addicts that have been tabulated as of the
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cemetery first thing in my.
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I suppose the large majority of these would be in the Chicago area.
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I would say approximately 95 percent. And
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Indiana Larry one hundred seventy one addict
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and Ben. WHAT'S GOING ON SON There is one hundred
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sixty added that had to be laid it for me.
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Same here good guy man in the cemetery.
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Could you indicate to us the approximately approximate average age of the
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addicts.
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The average age of the adding those
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that are reported are mostly between the ages of twenty one and
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thirty and I said it had appeared to be a
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national trend not a what percentage of these would be women any indication
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there. Well a percentage
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on a national total is about
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one for three I'd say proximately Niamh is Chicago's
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problem confined to certain geographic areas within the city.
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Yes it's.
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I'd say that the largest percentage of any illicit traffic is
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concentrated on Chicago's south side and
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west side.
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Why would you say that it's concentrated in these areas.
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Mr. BELL Well those are primarily
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the areas that
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have an urban slum
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condition and its
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various social problems that arise in our district in a general
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high crime rate that is prevalent in the area.
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What working relationship does your bureau have with the Customs Bureau in dealing with the
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drug traffic.
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Why of course we cooperate with the Customs Bureau in many instances.
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We exchange information and particularly as
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it relates to their jurisdiction and smuggling and
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they furnish us information regarding the domestic tracking
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of their private their prime responsibility narcotic and for money smuggling.
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Yes and of course our responsibility is to crack
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some of expressed the opinion that the new in the road to the St. Lawrence
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Seaway will not pose a threat in terms of being a new smuggling route for
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narcotics do you share this opinion.
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I do on the course although they
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see way has been opened up.
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For well actually not the Seaway but they Welland Canal has been open since
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998 and there's a lot of shipping in Chicago but yes they
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will be additional deep sea shipping and here
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that will I'm certain post some smuggling problems but it will have
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to actually wait and determine that. Now we have had
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no incidences of reported smuggling of narcotic that you
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feel sir that the local and state laws in this district are adequate to
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cope with the problem of the selling of drugs and if not what changes would you like to
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see which bars the state of Illinois is concerned I may have
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an action on. Law or penalties
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in Indiana they the laws are sufficient to
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trap me and this particular area. I am
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somewhat concerned with the state of Wisconsin where they
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state laws for penalties are marketing violations are
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and determining and other words. A defendant
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could possibly be sentenced from zero to ten years
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might be probably placed on probation off a second
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offender if the maximum is increased 10 years but the minimum much still and dark
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and I would like to see the officials in the state of Wisconsin
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crash legislation mandatory minimum sentences.
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Sure Mark to lower them around and state or preferably
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a mark of those federal statutes.
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Mr. Bell mentioned Illinois law as being excellent. The word excellent carries
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a great implication with it so it might be advisable to get the reaction of another
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authority on the laws of Illinois. This time Harry J n slinger the
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United States Commissioner of narcotics it is the talk of the
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state of Illinois.
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Star as the model live for the whole country in relation to
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regulation of the trade the attacking the illicit traffic
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had the treatment off the drug addict and they're touring actually.
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We see tremendous progress.
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So by the testimony of Mr. Anderson here we see that Illinois has not only a functional
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but also a functioning law in relation to prevention and the treatment of the
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individual. What are some of these laws penalties.
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How does the law of Illinois compared to other states.
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Here again is Mr. George Bell to answer these questions.
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Maximum penalty of course
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in the state of Illinois for a first offender
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not less than 10 years. Timeline
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far out is for any term from 10 to lie in and for any subsequent of
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bands that lie
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and have been no probation or suspension not sentence and not
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ok. For possession of narcotics
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they first the fans punish of Obama
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less than two years no more than 10 years and for subsequent
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offenses are a term of not
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less than five years to lie. And there will
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be no probation our parole
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for second offenders in my category in Indiana would be similar to
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Illinois law in that regard. Now Indiana's
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laws are not as stringent as the Illinois
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laws. Firestone said and sale
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the fans. There's not more than about an hour bomb and not
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less than two years no more than five years.
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The Senate may be suspended in probation or parole may be granted unless the
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sale made to a person under 21 years of age for a
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second offense of sale. This section would
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apply when a previous conviction has been obtained under federal or state
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law. And the liaison officer is not more than a $5000
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by car less than 20 years
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imprisonment to lie well suspension of
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probation all parole and possession cases that first the
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founder says. A thousand dollars was
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not less than one or more than 10 years and the sentence might be
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suspended and the individual may
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be placed on probation or parole. And I sang and danced
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a maximum penalty shall be imposed that is $1000
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fine and 10 year and the. I'm sometimes on
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probation on parole and they also have an addiction
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law there where the fine is not $300
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yet imprisonment 180 day.
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Judge my action with whole or suspend judgment upon proof that the addict
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and many didn't want treatment. Federal State or Providence
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indeed.
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We've spoken briefly about the three major problem areas of drug addiction in the United
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States. Perhaps Mr. Harry and slinger the federal not county commissioner can
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summarize it in this way.
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It's the far right that Detroit is concerned they have plans to take
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care of the pain of the drug addict by compulsory hospitalization if they get
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matching funds for the federal government. In
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Chicago the state of Illinois now has the bottle line for the
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whole country in relation to regulation of the trade.
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The attacking the illicit trafficking and the treatment off
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the drug addict. And they're doing excellent work we see we see
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tremendous progress in not only our city their plans going
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ahead for the treatment of drug addicts perhaps
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probably on a civil. The basis rather than that but
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that day in California they say this situation is beyond our
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control that we can legislate no
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plans for hospitalization. Say the president
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is meeting saying for several days to get
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information to the traffic in that
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state particularly in relation to
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federal state and city cooperation to try to bring it under control.
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New York Chicago Cleveland Detroit Los Angeles a
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city actively or passively. And the problem of drug addiction.
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Each city composed of people deciding as a group and individual.
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Getting a
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thing as.
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New.
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Script by Ed without her production by Bill Oberg This is Ted Seeley speaking in
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the preceding tape recorded program was made available to the station by the National Association of
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educational broadcasters.
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This is the end E.B. Radio Network.
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Mother Dad. Are your children adequately informed about the dangers of my kind of
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addiction. Have you warned them about the person who would seek to peddle the
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referrer the camp of pot or joy to them. What are they learning in the school
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classroom about the effects of narcotic on the lives of those who would succumb to their subtle
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blackening. Think on these questions Mr and Mrs Average American.
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For the next 15 minutes think and listen to the following program is
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produced as a public service feature by the radio division of the Moody Bible Institute of
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Chicago.
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With cooperation from the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and the Illinois division of narcotic
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control we present.
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News. H is for joy.
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With.
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Will all four 18 programs ages were Joy has sought to bring
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you as clear a picture as possible of the man or woman with a multiple needle
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punctures in his or her body. The person enslaved by the medical dictator the
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narcotic drug. We've tried to show how the addict becomes enslaved. What
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effects the addiction has on his total personality and some of the factors which keep him and
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slave through endless months and years. We've sought to trace the history of the social
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blight on society especially in the United States. We've seen what
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effect legislation and law enforcement has had in controlling the growth and spread of this blight.
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We've given you a present day analysis of the scope of the addiction problem. Direct from the lips of
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agents of the Narcotics Bureau of the United States. Today we launch out on the
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last leg of our documentary series. We begin to talk more about you with a
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listener. We commence a discussion on what can be done to prevent and treat the addiction
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problem. We start mentally toying with the concept of a cure.
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Today we concentrate on education for combined with effective legislation
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and law enforcement. Education is the key to preventing the further spread or birth of
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narcotic addiction of any scope. The question What should we teach our
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children about narcotics is a difficult one to answer. It is the
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policy of the state of Illinois that there be compulsory instruction on the nature
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and effect of narcotics and alcoholic drinks to give you added lighting
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on this matter. We consulted Dr. James H Smith associate
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superintendent of school instruction for the Chicago public school system.
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We asked Dr. Smith about the origin of the state law and its enforcement to the public
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school system. This is what he told us.
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Well as far as I can ascertain it goes back all the way to 1889
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where the change in 1897 and another change in 1 3 0 9 the
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statute in one thousand all nine it was very similar to the school called statue of
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1945 under which we now operate. The code itself says the nature of
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alcoholic drinks and other narcotics and their effect on the human system shall be taught in
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connection with the various divisions of physiology and hygiene. So it's very
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definite in the state of law and in Chicago we teach it in our Health Physical
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Education.
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Says education of students in any area of the curriculum is only
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effective if the student wholeheartedly enters into that particular
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area and reacts to it in some tangible way. Does the
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Chicago Board of Education feel its narcotic education program is being well
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received by the students. Is it proving worthwhile and beneficial.
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Dr. Smith answers these questions in this way.
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While we think it has. Of course you must understand that anything such
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as this is very difficult to measure. It's very difficult to measure how much good we've
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done in speaking to youngsters for example. They harmful effects of narcotics
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but we feel very definitely that the program has been worthwhile. It is
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worthwhile and it should be continued. We feel that what's a big
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city changing as fast as this one. Analysts say all the
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temptations of the set A young person these days in a large city that many of our
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youngsters come in from smaller towns and from rural districts and when they don't understand
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some of the situations they face. And we feel that this program prepares them
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and orients them to meet the conditions that they find in many of our cities that they didn't
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find in the places from which they came. But we have an entire ball
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fighting the use of narcotics. This is in the hands of every teacher. And
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then in our teaching guide and health and physical education we have
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definite going on at the places where this material should be taught with the
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textbooks that should be used in the reference books. Every text that we
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use in Health has some reference to the effects of narcotics in
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our health guide to healthful living for the youngsters. We have a section in the senior
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year which is devoted entirely to this particular subject.
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And in addition of course we get the material from the American Medical Association and
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from other agencies which is very valuable to the teachers. There are a number of other booklets
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that are published by private people which we use in the way of text.
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These are very good. Some insurance companies have put out but
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they have been helpful the teachers. That means that every citizen must help law
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enforcement agencies to the Chalk Farm. We must have a
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public opinion that's a rouse to get narcotics. We must have the support of
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parents who supervise our youngsters and know where they are and we must have the support of
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people such as him a lot of radio on TV newspapers to keep the public
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informed.
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Keeping you the public informed that's a big order keeping your children in school
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informed that's a bigger order yet many states across the nation have similar
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compulsory narcotic education statutes on their books as those of Illinois.
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Have you wondered as we have just how the teachers go about teaching units on drug addiction
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where they get their material and just how well the presentations are received by the students
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themselves. To further illustrate and substantiate the material
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given to us by Dr. James H Smith we consulted two teachers of the health
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and physical education in Chicago public high schools. We ask them the
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questions which we felt you would want to know the answers to and they gave us an
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Cyr forthright replies.
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Listen to the first teacher as he talked with us over the beeper telephone line
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exactly how do you go about teaching your students about the dangers of narcotics The let
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you approach your discussions or films or how.
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Most every approach we start with a lecture approach and what we call our health classes
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which is one period a week for every youngster who has a role in the school. We lecture
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on narcotics and we follow this with class discussion question and answer
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period we are quite free in our approach to this particular problem.
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Where you get your source material to present but we've had material
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for quite a bit we get sound from our central office downtown and we have
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quite a few books on narcotic pamphlet things of that sort that we have collected
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and we have also some information that was given to us by the police department some years back.
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What can you say about the attitude of the students their
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attitude toward this particular subject.
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Well it is quite surprising to me.
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Type of presentation to our class from the freshmen we
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find that the youngsters are interested in knowing
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why. Some of
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course they feel in that they realistic approach to something that is a
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vital part of almost every day some part
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any problem there with regard to coming into
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active contact with narcotic users or pushers. As far as women athletic
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department are concerned many in our physical education classes we have not
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met that particular phase of the narcotics problem. When I think
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administration go ahead and comment that I am not aware we
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are doing that. We are trying to give the
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youngsters a well-rounded program and help them we feel that
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part of that problem.
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Compulsory alcohol instruction which is
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serving a real worthwhile purpose from personal experience.
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From everything we are operating in our help but I think that
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compulsory law pertaining to narcotic a very
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good one and I feel that every youngster and every girl ought to know
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the effect of America because why
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am I going forward even more so when I did it.
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How long has it been since you inquired about narcotic education in the high school your
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children attend. If you were to raise this question in parent teacher meetings
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if you talked with your children about the material they were being taught on this subject.
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Perhaps they would give you or report like this additional Chicago public school teacher gives
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exactly how do you there go about teaching your students about the dangers of
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narcotics.
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The next year approach or discussions or films or how I want
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to lecture and I want to know. But we have
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found out in March.
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What do you get your source material to present to the students.
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Well we know from the know.
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What do you find the attitude is with the students about the
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subject.
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Away from the financial side of it.
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The fear of becoming. Not to
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have enough money to buy an automobile from a financial
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problem.
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Do your students coming in contact with your pushers.
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But they get it.
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Do you feel the. Kind of false story aspect of both alcohol and
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narcotics instruction here in our state is serving a worthwhile
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purpose.
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Well I think I know very well what I think my day could have a lot more
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about that kid right in fact they all come out.
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How much can one learn about narcotics in a whole semester. How much can one learn about addiction in
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a whole lifetime or in a whole twenty six program radio series. The answer
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will vary with your interest and your concentration. But common sense should tell us that
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when we begin teaching our sons and daughters about a subject like drug addiction much
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caution must be exercised. The producers of this radio series tend to agree with
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Mr. Mallock IO Harney former superintendent of the Illinois division of narcotic
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control as he expressed his opinions before the Hillsborough Illinois co honest and
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Lion's Club in 1959 Mr. Harney remarked as follows and we quote.
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My opinion follows the policy advocated by the Federal Bureau of Narcotics.
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This is a policy which questions the wisdom of mass presentation of the narcotics
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subject to the very young. It is a policy which suggest that the study be
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included in overall lectures on health and education. The policy is identical with
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that expressed by a recent Canadian Senate committee which read as follows. The
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committee is of the opinion that while educational programs may be usefully established
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for professional groups for parent teacher associations and for adult groups generally
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such programs should not be used where they would arouse undue curiosity on the part of
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impressionable persons or those of tender years. And quote Mr.
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Harney concludes by suggesting that if he were responsible for narcotic education in the
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schools he would teach without elaboration or titillating detail. He would
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rather convey the stark dreadful slavery of narcotics and to speak of it as an
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unspeakable vice which simply should be outside the contemplation of intelligent people
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intelligent people who know the folly of the assumption that H is for joy.
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A script by Edwin and her production by Bill Oberg This is Ted Seeley speaking.
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The preceding tape recorded program was made available to the station by the National Association of
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educational broadcasters.
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This is the end AB Radio Network.