Carl Sandberg

The University of North Carolina presents listen America directed by John

Clayton and produced by Johnny Lee for the University of North Carolina communications center

Erwin director to do this series we went to 13 of the top authors

of this country and I asked them if there was something they would like to say at this time to the radio

audiences of America. We told them that of course there would be no censorship from the

University of North Carolina that they could select any theme. It could be a big

one or every day as they chose and they could write it up as they wanted to

play a dialogue talk. One of these writers was Carl

Sandburg and he agreed to do this and came to Chapel Hill here on the campus

sat down at a table in the study of a friend's home spread some books out before him and said

he was ready to do his program that he would do it himself. Right then he would talk to the

American people. So now the University of North Carolina presents Mr.

Sandberg and what he said from the story of my

life as a boy.

Always the young strangers.

Often in the 1890s I would get to thinking about what a young prairie town

Galesburg Illinois was. Nearly 20000

people and they had all come in 50 years. Before that it was

empty rolling prairie. And I would

ask why did they come.

Why couldn't they get along where they had started from.

Did I know America the United States because of what I knew about Gail's.

And I ask what is this America. I am a part of where I will soon be a full citizen and a

vote for all of us are living under the American flag the Stars

and Stripes. What does that mean. Men have died for

it. Why when they say this is a free country they mean free for want

and free for whom and what is freedom. I said I would listen and read

and ask and maybe I would learn by guessing and hoping and reaching out I might

get a hold on some of the answers.

Those questions in those words may not have run through my mind yet they ran in my blood dark

untangled they were done in my bed for many years.

To some of the questions I would across the years get only half answers.

Mystery answers and I will do my

best to delivering some of those half and inserts some of those

mystery answers here.

A father sees a son nearing manhood. What

shall he told that son.

Life is hard. Beast will be Iraq.

And this might stand him for the storms and serve

him for a home grown men in need and guide him amid sudden

betrayals and tighten him for slack moments.

Life is a soft law.

Go easy and this too might serve him

brutes have been gentle lashes.

The growth of a frail flower in a path has

sometimes been split Iraq

tough Will Counts.

So does design.

So does a rich saw war

without a rich wrong doing nothing.

Tell him too much money has killed men and left them dead years before

burial.

The quest for cash and Barnes beyond

a few easy needs has twisted good enough men and

sometimes into the drive.

So war or it's

telling him as a star can be wasted.

Tell him to be off every so often and I have no I have no shame over ever having been a

fool yet learning something out of every folly

hoping to repeat none of the cheap follies.

Thus arriving at the intimate understanding of a world numbering man

fools tell him to be

alone often and get asked himself.

And above all tell himself no lies about himself.

Whatever the white liars and protective fronts he may use amongst other

people. Tell him

solitude is creative. If he is strong

and the final decisions are made in silent rooms

tell him to be different from other people if it comes natural and easy being different.

Let him have lazy days seeking his deeper motives.

Let him seek deep for where he was a born natural.

Then he may understand Shakespeare and the Wright

brothers.

Pastor Michael

Faraday and free imaginations

bringing changes into wayward resenting

change.

You will be lonely I know I have time for the work.

You know as his own.

What should I say when it is better to say nothing what is said is said or

no sponge can wipe it out. Ask your young people they

know everything.

Have you noticed pink flowers give no smell.

A woman and a melon are not to be known by their sides.

The handsomest woman can give only what she has.

No matter how important you are you may get a

wash your dog comb a dog.

Apes may put on funny honoree but they are still heaps.

He was made of honey will be eaten to death by flies.

Wedlock is a peddler. Take a good look at the mother before getting tied

up with the daughter.

Let a mother be ever so bad she wishes her daughter to be.

The man hardly ever marries the woman he jokes about. She often marries the man

she laughs at. Keep your eyes open before

marriage half shut afterward.

Your wife is not a guitar you hang on the wall after playing it.

I wouldn't bet a million dollars for this baby and I wouldn't give ten cents

for another.

A mosaic of Proverbs from the people yes

we will see what we will see. Time

is a great teacher. Today me and tomorrow

maybe you diss all

the people us laughs at many

broken hammers.

What is bitter to stand against today may be sweet to remember tomorrow.

Whether the stone bumps the judge or the judge bumps the story in its for

the joke one hand washes the other in

both wash the face.

Better leave the child's nose snotty then to a wring it off.

We all belong to the same big family and have the same smell

handling the tar or done some of it sticks to the fingers.

Tell our year comes to believe his own words.

He who burdens himself must sit on the blisters.

God alone understands us that

mother understands that child

to work hard to live hard to die

and then go to hell after all who would be to have a heart.

It takes all kinds of people to make a world.

What is bred in the bone will tell between the inbred Santa

crossbreeds the argument goes on.

You can beat him up as easy as you can beat him down

said one of them.

I don't know who all my ancestors were but we've been d sending

for a long time.

When the Cherokee blooded Oklahoman

oil Rogers said my

students didn't come over in the Mayflower but we was there to meet the boat.

You're either a thoroughbred a scribe or an in-between.

Always some dark horse never heard of the forest coming under the wire a winner

said are the Greek your birth puts

beneath me.

If a crazed Greek replying. The difference between us is

this. My family begins with me. Yours is with you.

Why did the children pour molasses on the cat when no one

told the children they must not do for molasses on the cat.

Why did the children put beans in their ears. When the one thing we told

the children they must not do was put beans in their ears.

A piece printed in the Chicago Times

a few days after the

date of August 6

1945 when

the word Hiroshima came to have high

significance. This is titled

Mr tele.

As you know made a name for himself as a destroyer of life.

Mr. Tyler they

made a mess of you profess you of the

gentle voice.

The books the specs the Furt rabbit

manners in the mortar board cap and the media evil god.

They didn't think it was Professor on account of you were so absent

minded you bumping into the trees and saying Excuse me

I thought you were a tree passing on again

blank and absent minded

it Mester. To your door

to your pear wallops of death

are you. The practical and Amec never again

have you come through with a few abstractions

is it you Mr after Lo here is saying

I beg your pardon but we believe we have made some degree of progress on

the residual qualities of the atom.

And my footnote to that at the present time would be.

That the figure of Mars now is embodied in that of

the professor.

The only time across the century is made himself look

terrible look as though he carried powers of

destruction epaulets metals.

It came later to be called fruit salad on his uniform

coat.

Now I was a man of war are is the choir and many

of the laboratories are

not of the man who does not look the part.

And yet he has it. It was his

mind he Grupo

his mind was tired of laying out their

abstractions and their equally Sheens

that finally evolved

weapons of a kind that when the

two powers that have a in the highest possession

today as they look at each other they are not sure about what

war between them would mean mutual destruction.

Across the centuries there have been armament races before

this. There have been two nations that faced each other with a

deadly hate while they sought new weapons and new

methods of war. And

historians that I have asked about it tell me there was

never a case of an armament race of that sort. Back across the pass. But

eventually they came to their war.

And then most often it was victory on one side and destruction for the earth

and for the first time in history to

Great us face each other

with their weapons capacity to each

destroy

it's a little harder to predict the future now.

When was the case with former nations.

You know an armament race.

Part of the prologue to that

remarkable exhibition created by Edward

Steichen. This is part of the

prologue that I struggled to write and I hope

it has some degree of adequacy.

The first cry of a newborn baby human she called or

saying in Amsterdam

has the same pitch key.

Each saying iin my

head comes through.

I am a member of the family.

Here is a seizing of saints and sinners winners or losers in a womb of

superstition genius crime sacrifice.

Here is the PEA the one and only source of armies navies working

the living flowing breath of the history of nations are lighted by

the reality or illusion of the whole.

Everywhere is a love and love making weddings and babies from

generation to generation keeping the family of the man alive and continuing

every where the sun moon and stars the climate center Weathers has

meanings where people.

Know meanings vary. We are alike in all countries and tribes in trying to read

what Sky land and sea say to us.

Like and over like we are on all continents in the need of love.

Food clothing work speech worship. Sleep games

dancing fun.

From tropics to art to humanity lives with these

needs a soul a like saw inexorably alike.

Here are set forth Babies arriving clean growing into youth's

restless and questioning. Then as grownups they seek and hope

they mate oil fish coral seeing fired to prey on

our peril I was in Meridian is having like Eunice.

The earliest man ages ago had weapons cattle as seen in these

cave drawings here and like him the latest man of our

day has his tools weapons cattle. The

earliest man struggled through inexpressibly dark chaos of hunger a fear of

violence sex a long journey it has been for that early

family of man to the one of today which has become a still more produce

spectacle in the times to come. As the

past. There will be generations taking hold as the loneliness and the

genius of struggle has always dwelt in the hearts of

pioneers.

The question What will the story be.

The family of man across the near or far future.

So I would reply for the air and

yours if you care.

And the strange and baffling eye is

huge.

There is only one man in the world and his name is just a man.

There is only one woman in the world and her name is all women.

There is only one child in the world and the child has

made us all children.

Some of the blood bank

with a text from the

act chapter 17 verse 26.

Has made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the

face of the earth.

Scarlet their sons crims in the dark

rising red curves through the night

to sing in arrear.

Pop spirit had a singing woman's lip

ready the blush of true love or of

fleeting the flash of a bird wing rear

rare. The Cardinals have read

the Communist flare talk

and read the core man's right sleeve

Cross the Red

Cross of surgeon nurse ambulance

hospital tent and ship

crimson blood streams poured together and together

blended into one life and it's

mingled in mute communion.

This Catholic can flow with

Protestant know already influx with

negroes.

Scoffers Sooners deniers in strength

and rest from blood of Christian believers

help and quiet to Christian

believers from blood of thieves harlots

last.

To be brother

sister scarlet

crimson the human blood bank.

And a poem titled This is out of the year nineteen

forty one titled Is there any easy road to

freedom a relentless man

loved France long before she came to she and the

eating of bitter dust loving her as my

mother and taught as both one of his kith and

kin and he spoke passion

warning the words

rest just rest is not

a word to the people.

US rests.

Here's a monarch you call her.

Close Russian love to Russia long before she came to bear agony.

And of our amid rivers of blood loving her as mother and torch as

bone of his kith and kin he remembered an all

Swedish saying the

fire of honor and are at home.

Fire the fire of all or not at home.

You can fire.

A Kentucky born in Illinois and found himself by joining through shadows and

prayer.

The chief magistrate of the American people pleading in

words close to law whispers

fellow citizens we cannot escape this

story the fiery trial through which we passed

will lead us to die nor dishonor to the latest generation.

We shall know or believe save or meanly lose the last best hope

of earth. We must

just install ourselves.

And what is it there are and who are three

men or men a dog

or a man.

Dr Z. He hoped

to see them themselves loose and so he

just said there

are freedoms there are freedom who are supporters

both.

Now why have you been too silent.

Is there an easy cry of silence.

Is there any to freedom.

For the past half hour you've been listening to Carl Sandburg. The

series is listen America. Directed by John Clayton and produced by Johnny Lee

from the University of North Carolina communication center. Irwin director this

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