China in the World Drama

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National Educational radio in cooperation with the Institute on man and science
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presents a series of talks drawn from the institute's annual conference held recently
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in Rensselaer Vale New York. The Institute on man and
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science is a nonprofit educational institution chartered by the New York State Board of
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Regents. The annual assembly of the institute is designed to focus
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attention on 20th century technology and human relationships resulting
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from its application. The speaker for this program is William Holm
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research professor in history at the Harvard Yang Ching Institute.
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Mr. Holmes topic is China in the world drama here now is
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Professor home of China.
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Yes.
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Developed
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this 19 20 and I delivered it
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rough. Five hundred fifty
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three and
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it's mostly a
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mixture up the past the present and the future
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in my purview. Those days between
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my career and career as a
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school pedagogue.
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What do I mean by drama.
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I can see
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the most interesting part of the study of history.
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It is a dramatic espec
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the peak up the
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income of concrete
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and leisure.
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A mouse nation raises religions
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and culture. Such
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interaction such
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comfort eat and have
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fun eat Furbish international
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state run.
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Around You know the.
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Sort of inland body of water a kind of a
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large lake at all. But in those days the mind of the
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day called the great sea. Now we called it the beer
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but the resist they need you around.
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The rest of the brings up that Mediterranean you found what you
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find. Well the four nation the Greeks the Romans because
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the is the Egypt and Asia Minor.
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Most of our literature
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science and religion
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is the flower that
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blossomed out of that interaction.
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But
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while the world drama when I was on the plane
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is much deeper and follow the stays because of
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all this soul the dramatic
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companies so to speak.
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Moved to a larger stage
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immediately by saying that people moved
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to the L.A. as a state
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and that stage you find them there.
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The play is emerging out of what we now we
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got as the evil is you find the start all
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amount to hate the prison ball. Pretty Yeah this
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capitalism process is intense.
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Yes I'm sorry years nationalism.
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And with those
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wonderful carriages
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moving up out I presume
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mole a dish dream of
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international interracial and into a card.
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Conflict and simulation falls again.
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And as matter of fact shortly after the heart
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of America the American called the Spanish water at the close of the
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last century one of the great Americans
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already prophesied that the next day in
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world politics is going to be round about the
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great Pacific that's the word of Theodore Roosevelt
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and how true we don't know that as we entered into the 20th century
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just watch the Americans coming to the
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Far East particularly not only after the
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adventure in the Philippines.
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Then the annexation of how why and the great you need the
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expansion of the American men.
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Kind trade across the Pacific and you can
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go all those who happen to be in New England
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be well to visit let's say the
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Salem and you see the way it is brought back by the clipper
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ship.
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But then when they do we just merely the McKinney beginning the opening up
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of Japan last night.
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William was a talking to we were talking about the wonderful
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recall of Commodore Perry opening up Japan
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and the modernization of China doing away with
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some 30 centuries of monarchical
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form of government and plays a
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republic with a political philosophy. Baby
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the doctor sign your son who as I said last night
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presumably the inspiration from Abraham
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Lincoln.
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And then maybe the fashioning of the Japanese army after the
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efficiency of. The precision.
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Of the Depression. And
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the the the in the
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introduction of the new system of jurisprudence
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by China of taking up I'm late from the freeze line. Well
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I just barely mention some of the topics to show
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that the stage and the much larger stage
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but of course as I always did in history we have to clean
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it. We're doing the research work. We had
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a microscope. But if we're the general
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understanding of it to help to formulate a historical
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perspective as a playground of every man's own philosophy of
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light as to all his own conduct
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we have to telescope that in which we were all
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meet.
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The confusing element is the minute less of that.
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In my lecture those days.
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I emphasize the SRI
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main characters. The rest of them and the stage. We're
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the members of the supporting cast who
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were the three.
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Principal up players and the stage. I called it.
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It's really a contest. Sheree Mame.
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What we called it. For us a phase of
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life. Well cosmologist
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but I think the best. Well I look that's the
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word. You see. The basis.
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These are the three I call it an ism
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which is typical AA
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represented by the Japanese military command
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as I call it to the signal while both
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you could you will present crazy but late very
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shallow I'm all for listening
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and trust.
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I call it the third Republican ism you
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find the best instrument in the American Constitution.
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That is a philosophical background in the writings of.
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Jefferson and Lincoln. It is
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this truly free.
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These are the three main ways of thought
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word and spins. And this new stage in
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any dramatic action. You all we have some tense situation. The
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problem the problem is who will get
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the brains to follow. And
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that was the gigantic China.
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Well without going we would have. It was it was then a
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lecture. Lasting for more than an hour.
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Only the general picture. At this stage
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when I was giving the lecture in the early
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1920s China was than me picked
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by its neighbor.
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You can never find anything in Chinese.
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Government all economic without the
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hand up the Japanese military
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that Kenny goes going and be
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at that time. I feel that there WERE have to be a
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stage by stage of.
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The stage oppose you isn't.
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Taking control of China. Unfortunately that
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prophecy has. Turned out to be true.
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I realize to be in the
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future. And this is what the the
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world is going to be
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completely reduced to ashes and we all made
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a very tiny little hope as one of my
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colleagues one time pictured to me only two little monkeys found
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in Africa.
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Ah the male and female monkey. After the
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great atomic destruction though where all the monkey and the
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male monkey said to the female monkeys the Among. Unfortunately probably we had to be
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in.
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The world can do that. The only hope
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Republican rebuttal had made.
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D. And some say it isn't dangerous in China.
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I only barely touch upon that last night we had no time to go into further details
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today but as I said it is one of the
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and realize that utopia is.
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But I must go today with a few minutes ago talk about the feel
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that came to me during the 100
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41 days I was in the
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Japanese military. There
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were 11 of us college teachers.
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She's a fish. They tried what the
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Japanese wanted to collaborate with the Chinese
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traitor. We are if you do have anything to do
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with it.
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So it will put together and a very strait
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jacket system. But first the power of
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it. We were in one room and.
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Cold winter freezing all the time.
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Eleven of us together. Well we were not.
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They impose upon us hunger cold
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and uncertainty as to future because every now and then would be threatened with getting it taken
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out and shot.
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As a matter of fact after I came back
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in 1946 to Cambridge Professor
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Robinson had already retired.
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An old friend of mine met me on the street.
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Thank you Mr. I think yes. Robinson Don't you recognise me. What
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is it I thought the Japanese shot.
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You know I told him the exaggerated difference.
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However. In this in this system over there
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we've found consolation mutual support by even a system we're
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not supposed to talk to each other because if we could talk to each other the
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Japanese got to come and beat us in the system of
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communication because we all could use English so well and
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most of the Japanese even some of the best of them.
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May speak if you were German and knew very little be English so
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I wish by the use of the
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hand to write.
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I scratched here at that time we do scratch all the time because
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after a little while without the changes we all crows are full of very mean
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anything. So we
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then my friend realize that's that's a Adam's apple and I like this
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one. You realize there's a P. S. This brow I never
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see. And then there's the immediate dimple of course when
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they come to be long time find they do you know the final word.
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Final word for is it. Then I had to do this right clear across.
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Then my friend realized that zebra. So we
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visited the 11 of us keep scratching our heads and watch as you know they don't
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realize and this is going to be scratching with themselves too.
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But then they related what to do with this bunch of these incorrigible college
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professors of course. Very soon they found a way. They put us
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into close up because a sordid story of firemen
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and the first few hours our leading man one of the PROFESSOR JOHN SHEWAN when leaving
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for absolute values for the US. I could hear the
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way of his sail and he was counting what happened they took him
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out. The team was going to be down there then put him into it into a strait jacket
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and he couldn't move a muscle. But Evan was he was that baby in Japan in
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his early days but have to return him to China I realize how
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the Japanese lady chatted so much and he hated everything
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Japanese as the Japanese language he spoke a lot about it but
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when we put him in solitary he felt so real and he just
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had American core with of these being sold a fake but stream of when you were
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you when the wimp is that all of these Japanese came
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back but not the good Japanese all the swears
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this really was in Japanese. So each has a pool right now and
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there are so they do it here and why hoodies.
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I almost went out of my memory is really very funny
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in my experience. So I came with some boys it was
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speaking to me.
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Why here my dear man all your life you've been complaining
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about telephones and telegrams come princes and
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class is to let you all appointment to meet.
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And you complain that I have been drained. Do you realize now. I mean well you
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do have to make the best use of it.
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What happened as I said now is my best time.
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I use the time the balance of the time I
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wrote out.
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And later on I had. Completely typed out and taken to this country
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and when it was circulating around among the
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palette the publishers I suddenly I read a
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book called Speaking frankly bicycle at the
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rate of the secretary of state and he
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woke me up and led to one of the books of
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mine that didn't get published but otherwise I would have to do all the
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apologies. Why was it in that now
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I made up a basis of aid. I realize that
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the whole.
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The legal nation has failed and I say it out over the
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wall it was had wasn't the slightest doubt in my mind that the allies will
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win out of the war. But as a result of it there will be a new
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international organisation. What should be that kind of international
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organisation was the main theme of my little
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novel last night. I'm asian about
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the DRI I saw it had to begin here.
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Of the over the cooperation between the two
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main giants in the world. I will say I say meep an ism
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will be eliminated and this thing that kind of modus vivendi
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would have to be worked out between Soviet Russia and the
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America. And then why China is concerned it would have to take all of that
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rainfall and the most important thing is the way internally
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is to have a cooperation. What to reduce to the
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extreme simplicity is a cooperation between.
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My obligation to speak. That was my degree but I didn't
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realize these the.
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It's that the boast that come in this even China and the Communist
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out of China.
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As you remember those will be who I read. He is speaking
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frankly. Remember that the main themes. Those
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who have not read it I will still consider it one of the most important books in my life.
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I remember I sit up all night holy night reading
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through what to sum up a new sentence the Secretary Burns on.
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Even I know why.
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The Russian leaders were really
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intending to do and them ways of carrying out. I could use
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at any stage I could have saved numerous trips I
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made to London to meet together with them.
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Well the.
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Book bays and the possibility of cooperation those days
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and later on I found out. What the remodeling company went
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there with the German company and the jumpin days not at all eyeball a blame
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about the the situation was
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such it was impossible. I'm glad I withdrew the book. But however I steeled
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nearly killed the United Nations is going to
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going to be a real they are world body that will guarantee for the rest of the world our
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new world order without structure and
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destruction and atomic complete play up to the ration. Then
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I still sing some of the general principles which I
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in my solitary confinement work out the night exactly in the same
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details probably along certain of the lines would have to do but it will decide the
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main thing that is there in all of.
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World Cup and the question is a question of representation. The system will
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represent Tejan according to the chattel of the United Nation is
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not realistic. You can have
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a huge. And reach. Every man's country
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like the United States America having one vote. And then did
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a tiny nowadays little
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Taiwan also have a. One vote.
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You can have a.
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Division of almost feel tie or you feel fair but with the very
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reason it needs East crisis.
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No I believe it had to do you have a representational realistic it according
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what they are representing.
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Magazine has either had to be first of all.
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That come so for the prevention of war. It would be that if
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I did the interview to Section One said to me is a council for
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compulsory arbitration and in this section what I called the
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National Fire extinguisher is to plays most ever by
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the way. The first stage of the. Method of
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conveying it in that I wold polies body
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any avoid that they've been framed.
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Bush don't fire extinguisher immediately be upright right there
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and dig the Mandans of SAC is dubious sis and the nation
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in reverse ratio according to the
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military budget.
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I know in direct proportion to did it very much if those who had the biggest
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meter to budget will contribute the most. But they have the least to say and the governing
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control of that direction will that made it dramatic. Well I
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had to go to next one is the the world comes up with
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economics because after all it is the problem between the
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haves and have now. Then there is the World Bank and
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the world of labor. A
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bad day. And the idea is industrial
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concerns but it's rivers in taser had to be realistic not
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merely one nation one.
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One voice but the most important to me in the air that never
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reached its full fledge
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efficiency and the other third time saw. I have a few a
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number of years of functioning. That is the the coming saw
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of international and light them on the Internet going to
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light them in the representation scheme as I do
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dream that those days was simply
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somewhere this way.
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Not that the
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Chinese will put out their most prominent politician
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or diplomat into the party. All the friends people I quite know.
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All the other nations other than China
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will let the Chinese do it all over the nation other than America.
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Wait let the American to it. You see this is just the opposite the way it
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so is good be sure it is the one who is most into nation really
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really now. A major study who revues in the wold
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not be zoning nation. And this body should be
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the main educating a body they have no
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compelling voice. Back. I quoted is that
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the the international call of the
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feedback I would call it at that time we had to be
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not by direct wire connections but rather by the process of OSS
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MOSIS them but when the end of this is done
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then the world would have. Peace.
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I caught it early.
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I was having the Chinese because our sheer number probably we
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were having at that time in the word drama after taking off the blindfold
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didn't really happen is I'm going to miss you can we chain you when
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released and then moron it has come to just two most important
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these free from selfishness.
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You heard William hone research professor of history at the Harvard yen Jing
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Institute. As he spoke on the topic China in the world drama
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Mr Hong's spoke at the annual conference of the Institute on man and science held in
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Rensselaer bill New York on our next program the speaker will be El
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Carrington Goodrich research professor in Chinese history at Columbia
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University. His subject will be some of China's contributions
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to world culture. These lectures are recorded by the Institute on man
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and science. The programs are prepared for broadcast and distributed by the
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national educational radio network.